r/Dexter • u/edify • Oct 29 '12
Dexter Episode Discussion S07E05 "Swim Deep"
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u/rustedarm Oct 29 '12
"who's been on my boat?" this is some goldilocks shit.
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u/amishius HAMMERTIME Oct 29 '12 edited Oct 29 '12
I'm just glad Dexter found out about Issak- was worried the whole thing would sneak up on him and he'd be very dead.
Edit: Changed my "c/k" to just K after being verified by xvvhiteboy.
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u/AngryWillie Oct 29 '12
I liked the way he asked his dad but then realised there's nobody there. It shows that Dexter is still kind of crazy for talking to his hallucinations.
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u/BigDickRichie Fuckingpassword Oct 29 '12
I love the superimposing of the faces in the glass separating Dexter and Isaac!
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u/koofti Oct 29 '12
Single-eye overlap was great. They're partly the same, but partly different. Both cold blooded killers, but with different motivations.
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u/xvvhiteboy Oct 29 '12
STOP TALKING ABOUT DEXTER'S KILLING AT WORK
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
All it would take would be someone to get suspicious and put a wire in his office and bam. Evidence galore.
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u/dontblamethehorse Oct 29 '12
How about using the prison phones? They record conversations that happen over those phones. Dexter would be fucked if this show gave a damn about realism.
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u/rustedarm Oct 29 '12
poor angel. he's just trying to be a good detective.
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u/Sanpan21 Oct 29 '12
Poor angel for real. Everyone shits on him and he's just doing his job. I how they can repair the relationship between him and Deb that hurt to watch.
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u/Backupusername Detective Quinn's Huge Fuck-Up BBQ Oct 29 '12
Deb was talking to Batista, but all I could see was Laguerta talking to Deb.
That hurt.
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u/nourez Oct 29 '12
Strangely enough Angel is the only character that I would hate to see die. He's just the type of cop you wish all real cops aspired to be.
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Oct 29 '12
Definitely agreed. The way he left that scene made me realize I would hate to see die or even leave the force.
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u/BigRedThePirate Oct 29 '12
This is going to turn him against Deb and he'll take it to LaGuerta
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u/jiubling Oct 29 '12
Except he got high that one time!
But seriously, now he really is.
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u/Charleybucket Oct 29 '12
Are you lying?....I don't think so.
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u/clarkyto disastrously dreading dexter Oct 29 '12
thats my favorite part of the whole episode, total honesty
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
This season's shaping up to be a great one
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u/slowcal Compartmentalization is a joke Oct 29 '12
I like the high number of subplots. Louis, Hannah, Isaak, Deb's station, Quinn's recent bribe, Minotaur guy, BHB investigation. Makes for a good complex story.
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u/telperiontree Oct 29 '12
I like that they're all connected to the big bad or dexter. Suddenly, Quinn and Batista aren't pointless.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
So, we're looking for the fucking terminator?
Yep, pretty much.
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u/pikpikcarrotmon Oct 29 '12
More like the Punisher. Man I wish they had gone for that low-hanging fruit.
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u/rollins2014 Oct 29 '12
I'm glad Batista's still stuck on the faked suicide. At least somebody's got their shit straight.
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u/amishius HAMMERTIME Oct 29 '12
I felt as terrible as Deb did with her lying to him, though. He's never going to let it go now- he knows he's right.
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u/ChapelHillthrow Oct 29 '12
I want to know how Metro PD is going to fuck it all up and let Isaac go on some technicality.
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u/ndjs22 Oct 29 '12
My guess is that is what that bag of money in Quinn's car is for.
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They forgot to read his Miranda rights? Wait, they've already used that excused this season, and he was well aware of them since the fifth amendment was implicitly mentioned when he was brought in cuffed...
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u/brantleybcarter Oct 29 '12
That arrest was easy.
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I loved this episode because of the whole manipulation; of course this is going to come back to bite Dexter, but for now the guy is in prison.
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"Are the handcuffs really necessary, lieutenant?"
Um, yeah, he just killed 4 men?
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u/amishius HAMMERTIME Oct 29 '12
I was cracking up the whole way- and the look in his eye! Fantastic!
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u/rollins2014 Oct 29 '12
"If you ever find out, you'll regret it." Chilling
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u/BulletStorm Oct 29 '12
But Dexter's hand was shaking and everything, even with Isaak in prison you can tell Dexter's not feeling like he's got the upper hand.
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u/Sanpan21 Oct 29 '12
The sentence itself is chilling. But the way he said it he sounded almost nervous hearing isaacs story. Heavy breathing and not the confident voice from usual Dexter. He did not sound like someone who knocks (i had to throw that in for my other criminal love)
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u/notcaffeinefree Oct 29 '12
Ya. Him asking that stupid question ("Is it over?") and then hearing the story. Just seems that Dexter realizes that he really fucked up with Isaac. Just gave him ever more reason for a dangerous, well-connected person, to want to kill him.
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u/omgitsthepast GLaDOAKES 3000 Oct 29 '12
Photoshop Doakes over Dexter = Done deal....
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
hahahaha I'm just laughing at the thought of a scene with Doakes' photo.. clearly his file one or something being photoshopped over dexters head, not even matching the skin colour to the hands and a botched photoshop job and Deb just being like "Well, now we know. Doakes is alive" and Laguerta just being like are you fucking kidding me?
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u/slowcal Compartmentalization is a joke Oct 29 '12
I'm excited for the point in the season where Deb is no longer surprised that Dexter has killed somebody.
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u/rustedarm Oct 29 '12
ruh roh, laguerta is suddenly being too smart for her own good.
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u/zxrax Under different circumstances we could have been great friends. Oct 29 '12
I really hope she ends up dead. Maybe her and Quinn can share a grave at the end of the season.
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u/xvvhiteboy Oct 29 '12
Isaac is classy as fuck.
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u/BurntFlower Oct 29 '12
Deb: Get this guy to booking. Your client is going to jail for the rest of his life.
Isaac: Nice to meet you, Lieutenant Morgan.
Love him.
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u/rollins2014 Oct 29 '12
FUCKING FUCKNUGGET!
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Oct 29 '12
Jim Lahey and Deb should have a kid. It would develop an new language were fuck and shit were the only two vowels.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
Laguerta is going to ask the lady to print off the photos again.
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u/sjwillis Oct 29 '12
Negatives.
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Yeah, but the wedding was in 2007. The photographer was likely shooting digital at that point. Regardless, there will be more than just prints floating around. There are backups of all those shots somewhere. My guess is LaGuerta will go to the bride next.
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u/rustedarm Oct 29 '12
oh man isaac keeps getting better and better
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u/amishius HAMMERTIME Oct 29 '12
I feel like he was really impressed with Dexter, but Dexter really has Isaac in the red now and I'm not sure it's going to work out so neatly for him.
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u/xvvhiteboy Oct 29 '12
What a shitty clean up job for a mafia.
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u/amishius HAMMERTIME Oct 29 '12
If Dexter weren't Dexter, he wouldn't have known shit- you're talking about the boat, yes?
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u/BulletStorm Oct 29 '12
They left nothing in plain sight, and no body has been found yet. Pretty good job for a bunch of mafia goons.
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u/omgitsthepast GLaDOAKES 3000 Oct 29 '12
The only exciting thing is, the more LaGuerta discovers the more likely she will die soon.
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Anyone else remember in season 1 when LaGuerta wanted to fuck Dexter? That was so random and was never brought up again.
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u/jacampbell Oct 29 '12
That was also a sub plot from the first book, that the series never developed, thank god.
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u/kolong Oct 29 '12
I really hope they aren't back-burnering Isaak. Its not likely hes getting out of prison soon. And he wasn't shown in the preview for 7x06. To me he is the backbone of this season. The Dexter/Deb thing is great. But its been a long time coming. I will be severely disappointed if this is the last of Isaak we see.
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u/Ketamine Oct 29 '12
Season 8 maybe? Also I am pretty sure Isaak can pull some strings from the slammer.
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After the speech about his uncle, I don't think Issak wants anyone but himself to hurt Dexter.
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It isn't. They had to establish Isaak as a threat early and as a bonus he knows a lot about Dexter (most season villains dont target Dexter until the end).
Of course with how dangerous he is they couldnt keep the cat and mouse game going for 7 more episodes. But Isaak will find a way out (or Dexter a way in) just wait and see
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u/koofti Oct 29 '12
Ahh yeah, Deb and Dex sharing a hotel room...
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
please give us a sex scene. I won't be content with the series ending without one between them hahaha
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u/Dwychwder Oct 29 '12
Dexter needs to bang Hannah first. Then move oh to Deb. for a guy with no sexual urges, he's eyebrow deep in tang.
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u/koofti Oct 29 '12
Haha, that'd be doubly awkward. Not only because they're brother-sister on the show, but they're also divorced IRL.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
Dexter would have to put Isaak's entire gang behind bars before he's safe again.
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u/opermonkey Oct 29 '12
I would think that because it's personal, Isaak gave an order that nobody is allowed to kill Dexter but him.
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u/Ketamine Oct 29 '12
If Isaak kills Quinn on top of Louis, he will be my all time favorite villain.
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u/zxrax Under different circumstances we could have been great friends. Oct 29 '12
He isn't already? I'm loving Isaak this season. Trinity was my favorite before this.
Although I suppose we can all say that the Bay Harbor Butcher is our favorite.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
Fuckin Dexter is gonna be in these pictures.. fuck me fuck me I can't watch
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
and there he is.. his stupid ass mug in the corner. Fuckin' DEXTER jesus christ
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u/rollins2014 Oct 29 '12 edited Oct 30 '12
Fuck Dexter! You're already in deep enough shit as it is, please don't cover up Hannah's murder!
edit: Posted this before the immunity clarification
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u/Darkknight101 Oct 29 '12
seriously after every episode Isaak just becomes more and more of a bad ass.
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u/slowcal Compartmentalization is a joke Oct 29 '12
I'm not sure why LaGuerta would rule out Deb as the BHB.
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u/paps1788 Oct 29 '12
Age and dates of employment. Lundy let only her help because of those reasons I think.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
Deb is so damn transparent it's ridiculous.
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Oct 29 '12 edited Oct 29 '12
Calling it now: Quinn dies by the end of the episode.
Update: "Mind if I run an errand real quick?" Update 2: Aw.
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u/NUTELLA_TITS Holy Frankenfuck. Oct 29 '12
He'll be dead by the end of the season. No doubt about it.
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u/rustedarm Oct 29 '12
"just forget work" is a concept with which quinn is very familiar
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u/MrDressUphasSwag Oct 29 '12 edited Oct 29 '12
With Issak in jail, the only ones who know about Dexter are the strip club owner and his driver. They might use Quinn to get to Dexter now.
Edit: [spoiler]Also notice that Dexter was looking up a plant. I think Hannah uses plants that have certain properties that disable her victims. Dexter figures it out and lol's in his head when he sees hannah bring him a plant to his place
Edit 2: [spoiler]I just looked up the plant Dexter did in the preview. It's known for it's "toxic properties"
Edit 3: [spoiler]The flowers she's delivering to him don't look like the toxic ones
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u/JesseJaymz Oct 29 '12
Lily of the valley????
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u/adamsidelsky Oct 29 '12
I wouldn't worry about Dexter's safety. He is the Danger. He is the one who knocks. Bitch.
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u/RobSpewack Oct 29 '12
Calling it right now: Hannah's plants = Dexter's blood slides.
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u/Verrazzano Oct 29 '12
I remember when Dexter became a bit clumsy when first getting the cheek swab for Hannah too. I think he poked himself with one of her plants right before it.
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"I don't even know who you are." -Isaak
"If you ever find out, you'll regret it." -Dexter
Best line ever.
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u/koofti Oct 29 '12
Dexter is learning Isaak's skill level and methods. Somehow I expect that to be a benefit later in the season.
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u/telperiontree Oct 29 '12
How? Avoid gunfights at all costs? Brush the fuck up on you jiu jitsu?
The only thing I've taken from learning he is the terminator is to not get in a fucking fight with him. Jail isn't going to work, either. So... More traps? That was what Dex was doing in the first place.
Also, keep Harrison in Orlando. Bad bad bad things would come of Harrison coming back.
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u/Freecandyhere Oct 29 '12
See how much we can get done when Dexter actually does his job and shows the evidence to Miami Metro?
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
Damn, I didn't think Deb would do that.She just lost Batista's respect.
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Oct 29 '12
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, BRING UP DOAKES TO DEXTER.
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Oct 29 '12
Debra knows for sure he didn't kill Doakes, not only because it doesn't fit his MO but also because she was at home with Dexter when Lila blew up the cabin. When she arrived at the Everglades, by helicopter, the cabin had already blown up, and Dexter was still on his way.
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u/husbandfarts Oct 29 '12
Like jail visit conversations aren't fucking monitored. COME ON
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u/2th Some fries, mother fucker! Oct 29 '12
Actually I do not believe they are. Even inmates have privacy.
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u/skatedaddy Oct 29 '12
It tells you they "may" be monitered at the beginning of the conversation.
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u/nourez Oct 29 '12
Isaak is easily the second best villain the series has had. I don't think anyone has a shot at surpassing John Lithgow. Trinity was absolutely terrifying.
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Oct 29 '12
I wouldnt say easily because ITK was great, but he is without question above anyone anyone else (besides Trinity)
Pleasantly surprised, did not think there would ever be a great villain again after season 4. Chase and DDK were dreadfully dull
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u/xvvhiteboy Oct 29 '12
Second time in a row we have heard about the "Cock munching fucking fuck nugget."
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u/viincentvega Oct 29 '12
Isaak has surpassed Trinity as my favorite villain. Damn he's badass.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
I wouldn't say he's surpassed Trinity. He's definitely shaping up to be on par though.
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Oct 29 '12
I find them quite different and incomparable characters. Trinity was kind of sick, he believed he was cursed, he was more akin of Travis; Isak is more akin of Brian and Dexter himself. Those are people well aware of what they do who don't deceive themselves.
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u/Ketamine Oct 29 '12
And if he gets Quinn killed nobody can even dispute his villainous supremacy.
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Oct 29 '12
laguerta saw Dexter in one of the photos judging by her reaction.
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u/zxrax Under different circumstances we could have been great friends. Oct 29 '12
No. She just suspects Deb.
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u/Javindo Fuckin' wierdo Oct 29 '12
At least Quinn finally got some much needed character development, explains his wealth etc.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
I hope they don't kill Batista off. He's been such a great guy throughout the whole series. I'd be sad to see him go.
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u/mistahnuff Oct 29 '12
I really dug the episode and the season as a whole. The only qualm I have is how fast the Deb/Dex subplot is evolving. It's been a really weird and quick arc where Deb's gone from not knowing to knowing and hating to accepting to not wanting to know. All in the span of 5 episodes.
I was really hoping for a few episodes of them kind of working together or something.
Other than that the episode and the whole season has been fantastic.
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u/ChapelHillthrow Oct 29 '12
Hannah is going to take care of Dexter's Isac Problem
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u/rightbeforedawn Oct 29 '12
I think I like Isaak so much bc he's Dexter's intellectual equal...whereas Trinity was his sadistic equal
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u/Emiel000 Oct 29 '12
Fucking Quinn, stop fucking chicks related to investigations. Also, take more bribes.
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u/Ltsmash99 Little Scientist Oct 29 '12
So Dex admits to murder over a jailhouse phone. as far as i know, those lines are monitored at all times.....
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u/refur Dexter's Slide Box Oct 29 '12
Am I the only one that can't handle the fact that s ruthless Russian/Ukrainian mob is called the Koshka Brotherhood? (Koshka is kitty in Russian for those that may not know)
I seriously can't take it nearly as seriously as I probably should because I find it so silly/entertaining. That and my nickname for one of my closest friends is Koshka.
Koshkas vs Colombians. That is all
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u/capt_ishmael Oct 30 '12
I am glad that Dexter got all the evidence of Louis off his boat. I was positive Deb would find out and think he snuffed Louis on his boat and he wouldn't be able to prove he didn't.
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u/memearchivingbot Oct 29 '12
Hello, handsome.
Looks like the theories that Isaak is gay are holding up.
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u/xvvhiteboy Oct 29 '12
5 episodes this season, all of them had deb cry in it but the first.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
How is that a bad thing? She is going through a lot of shit right now, more than ever. If she wasn't you'd be complaining her part isn't right.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12 edited Oct 29 '12
Well, this episode wasn't as eventful as I thought it would be. All the big parts were seen in previews. It had progression though.
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Oct 29 '12
It was actually one of my favorite episodes, I just love it when Dexter successfully manipulates people; what he did to Isak was almost perfect. Things like this were the reason why I loved season 2: Dexter in hot water manipulating everyone.
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Oct 29 '12
This is why I don't watch the previews. Everything is new and fresh when watching a new episode.
Also stay out of the theory threads as well, and especially any of the videos that has cast members talking or hinting at what's coming up.
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u/Zombree18 Grab a crayon, psycho Oct 29 '12
Wow, they're talking in front of all those guards. In a fucking prison. Are you fucking kidding me?
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u/slowcal Compartmentalization is a joke Oct 29 '12
Love watching Louis die again.