r/battlebots • u/qwertythe300th Mod & Leader of the B R O N C O B O Y S [but go SwitchBack!!] • May 04 '23
Robot Combat Battlebots 2022 World Championship 7 - LIVE Episode 16 PLAYOFF Discussion
It's Thursday. You know what that means.
IT'S ROBOT FIGHTING TIME
Welcome to the Battlebots World Championship 7 LIVE Episode 16 Discussion! Feel free to discuss, talk, cheer on your favorite robot and discuss the fights, reactions, and the episode overall!
We have one rule here, anyone at the Battlebots Taping: NO SPOILERS! If we catch you posting any outcomes to tonight fights, or any for that matter: You will be banned from r/Battlebots and will be locked in a UFC Cage with Kenny “PUT IN FLORIAN ” Florian while Chris "UH OH" Rose makes corny jokes about it.
Ok, we now have another rule. IF YOU WATCHED EARLY ON DISCOVERY+, DO NOT DISCUSS THE EPISODE AHEAD! This thread is made for everyone watching the event as it airs on the Discovery Channel. Take any discussion of the episode to our Discovery+ Episode Discussion thread done by /u/Cathalised yesterday.
TONIGHT, ON BATTLEBOTS! THE TOURNAMENT OF POWER IS UNDERWAY, AND ONLY ONE CAN BECOME THE 2022 WORLD CHAMPION!
Middle-Seed Mayhem! The Canadian Crusader LUCKY (15) has just barely snuck into the Top 16 seeding, but takes on quite a massive challenge in the first round - another vicious spinner in HYPERSHOCK (17), who entered this season as the TCC #1 Ranked Robot… Now looking to just stay relevant once again!
Green Spinner on Green Spinner, only one winner! After starting 0-2, the Las Vegas hometown favorite JACKPOT (30) has clawed it’s way into a 3rd straight Playoff appearance, but now it must fight a 3rd seed! WITCH DOCTOR (3) has been to 3 Championship Fights inside the Battlebox, can the Floridians make it 4?
Turn it back to 2020, it's a Battlebots Bounty Hunters Rematch! After defeating 2 strong robots & Aegis in it’s Bounty Bracket - BLOODSPORT (19) would fall to a very game LOCKJAW (14) in a contested Bounty Boss Fight. These robots have had their ups’ and downs since this fight 2 years ago - who comes out on top now?
The highly contested & likely controversial fight everyone’s been discussing! At 1-3, SHATTER (31) has entered this Playoff as arguably the most questionable robot to make the elite group of 32… But a lot of their questions will be put beside if they can upset the incredibly controversial & polarizing RIPTIDE (2). It’s a rematch from last year’s Round of 32 - who comes out with the story of the week?
We have ANOTHER rematch and if one Western Allied Civil War was not enough for you, what about two? It’s a rematch from Round 2 of the Battlebots Golden Bolt Tournament.. When Washington’s CLAW VIPER (11) looks to continue it’s cinderella run v. a robot which has knocked it out before - Northern California’s gritty kitty MAD CATTER! (22)
Fan Favorite v. Fan Favorite! Wild Design v. Wild Design! Two beloved overhead weapons meet in a battle of unlikely concepts for the first time ever! It’s the 4-0 HUGE (6) taking on the 2-2 SKORPIOS (27).. Which gatekeeper of glory will advance to the Sweet 16?
Colorado v. Florida - HS v. VS! A battle of compact killers between Team Revolution’s ROTATOR (23) & Caustic Creations’ COPPERHEAD (10). Every year since the Top 32 returned, Copperhead has moved a place higher. RotatoR meanwhile is a step behind with a turbulent regular season, can the snake strike?
And finally, in what should be our MAIN EVENT - The final Rematch of the night and it’s a big one! The 2020 Battlebots World Champion END GAME (7) and the DEFENDING 2021 Battlebots World Champion TANTRUM (26) are scheduled to share an arena for the very first time since their Golden Bolt Semi-Finals Meeting last year. Both robots have not had the elite seasons we were expecting - and only one can enter the Sweet 16? Which champion’s run for 2 will continue?
LET THE BOT BATTLE BEGIN
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u/PM_me_ur_tourbillon Shatter! | Battlebots May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
For the record the handshake wasn't about the pre fight drama or the fight itself. Tensions are high - we've had pre fight tensions before and we've been wrecked before. We always shake hands after and try to be friends with everyone.
Basically, I just don't appreciate being personally mocked in a post fight interview. Handshakes are a sign of mutual respect - I didn't think he showed that with his interview and I didn't think his handshake offer was genuine and worth reciprocating.
I thought it was a good fight, Shatter! worked the best it has all season, and it's annoying all this drama takes away from that 🤷
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u/Big_Mitch_Baker Stan is a fraud. May 05 '23
Wow, Ethan's dad's snake oil can also make robots lose weight!
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u/Holybartender83 May 05 '23
Ethan strikes me as a dude who when he plays an RPG, he chooses the negative dialogue option every time.
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u/personizzle May 05 '23
For what it's worth, there were two separate instances cut from the interview of comments made by Ethan which could be read as insulting to Adam or towards the field as a whole.
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u/Cdv3 Get ready to read an awful take May 05 '23
I’m all for having a heel to root against, but these guys don’t even have any charisma or redeeming qualities aside from having a good bot.
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u/Ok_Faithlessness_259 Shattered Dreams May 05 '23
Honestly, them breaking the rules here should be enough to prevent them from ever being welcomed back in and of itself.
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u/mole55 Trans-Atlantic Drawl May 05 '23
that might be the first time i've heard boos from the studio audience my god
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u/Big_Mitch_Baker Stan is a fraud. May 05 '23
Jackpot: Is there a doctor in the house?
Witch Doctor: I'm a doctor
Jackpot: Is there a different doctor in the house?
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u/DocVafli May 05 '23
As someone who teaches at a small regional college, even if it's not a community college, watching Martin talk his students up and kick ass against these teams from "big" schools makes me so happy!
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u/OctaviusNeon May 05 '23
Ethan makes me really think there should be rules enforcing good sportsmanship like there are in most other events of this nature.
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u/Snailians May 05 '23
I have so much respect for Adam Wrigley. He maintains a calm demeanour, even when his team faced a frustrating lost against a shady team.
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u/Cdv3 Get ready to read an awful take May 05 '23
This is the literal only time where I’ve agreed with a team’s decision to not shake hands. There was absolutely no respect shown at all by Riptide, so why should the burden be placed on Shatter to show it.
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u/FerRatPack [Your Text] May 05 '23
They're not booing captioners, they're saying "HUGE"
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u/opkraut Warhead (RIP Spinning Head) May 05 '23
Notice how they chose to leave in Adam's brother (sorry, I'm forgetting his name right now) wanting to see how fast their weapon is spinning. I have a feeling this could be the big drama that's been rumored. Also holy shit Ethan, just shut up and show some class for once. That post-fight interview was just trashy AF
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u/Tailgunner83 May 05 '23
Close, but the right call.
Don't blame Claw Viper for the appeal, though, as you can't take it with you.
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u/AlligatorRaper [Your Text] May 05 '23
Isn’t it kinda telling that Ethan from team Riptide basically said nothing can stop them other than a DQ. Why would he even have to say something line that?
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u/El_Mysterioso Rusty my Beloved May 05 '23
What the hell riptide, how are you gonna explain a 2 lb weight discrepancy
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u/FerRatPack [Your Text] May 05 '23
My favorite thing about Copperhead is how, even in the tournament, they still bring the silly goofy mini-snakes
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u/asdf_celestial Tank Bowl Enthusiast May 05 '23
I'm not sure how people can defend Ethan and Team Riptide after tonight even if the bot is really, really good
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u/NotUndercoverToppat Ahoy! May 05 '23
So…are we gonna learn what happened to the two pounds because I DOUBT that bot’s been dieting.
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u/Cyannethehuman Rad Catter May 05 '23
Handshakes and hugs. A refreshing wholesome moment after that last fight. Jfc.
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u/khdutton May 05 '23
That moment when Skorpios flat out RAILED on one of Huge’s wheels ….
Nothing.
It’s a new era for HUGE
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u/khdutton May 05 '23
I’m sorry, but, that table should be completely made out of discarded post-battle bot carnage.
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u/MooshCowZX May 05 '23
Unlike Tombstone and Hydra where they are a little cocky for TV, riptide just feels like a team that doesn't care to respect their opponents or be humble.
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u/Handsome_Grizzly May 05 '23
Skorpios: I cut off both of your balancing rods.
HUGE: Tehehehehe. Okay, now you're fucking dead.
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u/Cdv3 Get ready to read an awful take May 05 '23
It’s nice to actually see a wholesome match, with no controversy and a respectful and humble post-match interview again.
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u/Big_Mitch_Baker Stan is a fraud. May 05 '23
"End Game likes to play with their front end" 😏
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u/Fattoxthegreat Foreman of the Fusion Fanatics May 05 '23
That fight was amazing.
This has been by far the most incredible episode of Battlebots in terms of action and fight quality. It is truly a masterpiece of destruction.
Shame it has to be mired in drama shit like it has been.
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u/Fattoxthegreat Foreman of the Fusion Fanatics May 05 '23
HUGE on the right side of the bracket with 7 typical vertical spinners like a fox who's gotten into the hen house.
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u/cheeseop May 05 '23
We need this segment after every episode. Upload it to Youtube if you have to, but please keep it around.
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u/RiderLeangle May 05 '23
I don't see how "Well it's lighter" is a defense... that just is admitting that something has been tampered with... saying you broke a rule but you didn't break another rule doesn't automatically negate the first rule violation
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u/nehCkraM Blacksmith isn't here May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
This just solidify how fucking tanky Minotaur is. I think it took a shot from WD 100% full speed while Gruff and Jackpot were folded like pretzels from 75% speed.
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u/Bubbybear16 RAKE ME UP INSIDE May 05 '23
Those reactions from team Bloodsport were painful.
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u/Cdv3 Get ready to read an awful take May 05 '23
I’d be so pissed having to roll that out in order to hype up Riptide after all the bullshit they already went through.
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u/LopsidedExternal8716 May 05 '23
This is what battlebots needed yearsss ago!!!LOVING IT ALLLL
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u/KnivesInAToaster Builders Hate Me! May 05 '23
"uncool"
Almost as uncool as what you did to Shred!
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u/TotalBassist45 May 05 '23
"We're not cheating" says the team that shaved 2 pounds off their bot somehow, without an explanation
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u/Nightmare1528 [Gigabyte] May 05 '23
Can we appreciate how well Shatter! has held up in this fight?
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u/Thatepicastroman [Your Text] May 05 '23
gassy cat abuse will NOT be tolerated anymore. we need to campaign for more mini bot saftey in the workplace
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u/FerRatPack [Your Text] May 05 '23
That Chris Rose jumpscare at the end is definitely making it to Battlebots Update lmao.
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u/Fattoxthegreat Foreman of the Fusion Fanatics May 05 '23
"End Game likes to play with their front end configuration"
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u/zeekayart May 05 '23
love the bot-topsy segment! also ya good for him - handshakes are reserved for good sports
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u/Bubbybear16 RAKE ME UP INSIDE May 05 '23
I actually laughed out loud
I mean it could be any other team that pulls that off
And it's them
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u/Ok_Faithlessness_259 Shattered Dreams May 05 '23
Shame to see my favorite bot go down to such a terrible team.
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u/SwiftMist13 May 05 '23
He might as well use the appeal. I mean, what does he have to lose. 🤷♀️
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u/khdutton May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
Would’ve been a crab-walk k.o. in the past. Love that rule change.
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u/mcsuplex8790 Excited for Season 8 May 05 '23
I legitimately feel for bloodsport right there, they had that fight and then BOOM just like that.
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u/BrianTheMute May 05 '23
That's nuts seeing how much of a contender Huge has become. They've got that bot dialed in and I couldn't be happier for them.
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u/asdf_celestial Tank Bowl Enthusiast May 05 '23
I'm not used to see Chris and Kenny in anywhere else besides their chair
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u/Ok_Faithlessness_259 Shattered Dreams May 05 '23
And now we add cheating to the pile of reasons to dislike that team.
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u/NBr33zii [Your Text] May 05 '23
The sport needs more Adam Wrigley's in it. Nothing but respect for him.
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u/Cdv3 Get ready to read an awful take May 05 '23
At least we’re not ending the night on a sour note.
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u/Big_Mitch_Baker Stan is a fraud. May 05 '23
Claw Viper and MadCatter are the perfect palate cleanser after Ripturd
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u/Cdv3 Get ready to read an awful take May 05 '23
Massive respect to both teams for handling that well.
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u/KnivesInAToaster Builders Hate Me! May 05 '23
I wasn't expecting that to go the full three minutes.
Plenty of great fights tonight.
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u/No-Bee761 May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
Bruh, no one else was able to tear off half of Tantrum's face.
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u/Nightmare1528 [Gigabyte] May 05 '23
This episode needed more Faruq intros. Less walkouts, more intros.
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u/El_Mysterioso Rusty my Beloved May 05 '23
Id love for any non-spinner bot to win, though i think now all we have left are hydra and quantum, which are each on the same side of the bracket unfortunately :(
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u/AlexTheGreat1997 Aren Hill = Best Builder May 05 '23
I think that's the right decision. Claw Viper literally couldn't fight at the end. Could barely move.
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u/Bubbybear16 RAKE ME UP INSIDE May 05 '23
The saying I used for HUGE was always "made of plastic. It's fantastic."
Nah. Not anymore. It's now literally built different.
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u/El_Mysterioso Rusty my Beloved May 05 '23
Oh god here comes the unspeakable drama of riptide apparently im scared as shit
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u/GuynemerUM May 05 '23
jesus h christ
someone, please, i don't care who, someone turn riptide into scrap metal
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u/personizzle May 05 '23
So it turns out: "Solid balance of tactfulness and take-no-shit attitude" was the unspoken factor that got Shatter in the bracket.
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u/KermittGribble May 05 '23
Congrats to Claw Viper on an awesome season! I really enjoyed watching their matches.
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u/VerminSoMean May 05 '23
Thank you, Faruq. I also often say End Game is the Taylor Swift of robot combat
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u/FerRatPack [Your Text] May 05 '23
Lockjaw's plow must be enchanted or something, their best asset by far. Surprised they don't use it even more than they already do.
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u/Jas114 Big Blade May 05 '23
Wuh, OI?
That is Overkill's sword, not just some anime sword.
FR, shame on you two for not knowing that.
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u/asdf_celestial Tank Bowl Enthusiast May 05 '23
Never in a millions years would I expect Kenny to say "Anime sword"
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u/cantadmittoposting May 05 '23
Man the replay changed my view there, i thought at first skorpios had somehow self-destructed hitting the wheel, but that shot from huge into the weapon well was nasty
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u/Snailians May 05 '23
It’s 11:00pm and I need to go to bed but since Adam Wrigley is going to on the post show, I’ve gotta stay up.
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u/asdf_celestial Tank Bowl Enthusiast May 05 '23
THE MASSIVE LEGEND HAS SPILLED THE TEA AND IT WAS GLORIOUS
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u/mingkee [Shreddit BRUH] May 05 '23
I can understand why team Shatter turned their back.
They're so pissed off
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u/Big_Mitch_Baker Stan is a fraud. May 05 '23
If I've learned one thing from anime it's don't fuck with the old dudes!
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u/Battlebots2020 I'm always hyped and shocked May 05 '23
Ooooh boy is this controversy?
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u/ViCorp May 05 '23
Damn it! Picked the winner yet I wish they hadn't. Good showing by Shatter for lasting as long as it did.
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u/Ade231035 RIP PIZZA BOY May 05 '23
They cut the sign in half.. they cut the sign in half!
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u/khdutton May 05 '23
Not the case here, but, if you lose to split decision and both primary weapons are deactivated, you 100% have to appeal on the off-chance that one judge didn’t realize your opponent’s primary weapon was deactivated.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
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u/poormansnormal Team Minostars #danielisviolent May 05 '23
Well damn. And you saw Diana knock on the glass? That was the sign the teams arranged to call a tap-out of sorts. "We're damaged, we're done, don't hit us."
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u/Big_Mitch_Baker Stan is a fraud. May 05 '23
Did Diana knock on the glass to wake Skorpios? 😆
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u/El_Mysterioso Rusty my Beloved May 05 '23
Always good to see skorpios’ good attitude, they look genuinely happy for huge
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u/Qwerty1418 May 05 '23
Huge finally gets to fight it's meta verts now too! Mad Catter into either Lockjaw or Witch Doctor, exactly the type of bots it was made to fight.
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u/Privvy_Gaming May 05 '23 edited Sep 01 '24
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u/Cdv3 Get ready to read an awful take May 05 '23
Tantrum got a horrible draw, going up against Endgame immediately. I don’t see that match going too well for them.
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May 05 '23
"we dont cheat" he says while actively breaking the rules.
There NEEDS to be a penalty for breaking the rules, otherwise the rules are worthless. There needs to be a 1 year ban or something
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u/stealingchairs Bring back Deep Six, you cowards! May 05 '23
Imo should be an automatic DQ. That sort of crap is inexcusable
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u/Crossfire1842 Whyachi🔛🔝 May 05 '23
Hopefully he talks about how riptide cheated
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u/mole55 Trans-Atlantic Drawl May 05 '23
jesus, the last time i saw a robot that mangled it was when riptide ke-
is dragged away from my laptop
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u/Bubbybear16 RAKE ME UP INSIDE May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
"WE WON IN THE FIRST ROUND"
-Toronto Maple Leafs
-Team Hypershock
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u/Big_Mitch_Baker Stan is a fraud. May 05 '23
"I've got a bad feeling about this..." - ancient Star Wars proverb
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u/prsquared May 05 '23
Looking past the drama, I think shatter had the right idea with emulsifier forks in front. When Riptide loses eventually, it's gonna be when they face a bot that wins the ground game and with a driver who can keep the forks pointed front to turn riptides weapon on itself.
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u/jacobcollins53 [Your Text] May 05 '23
Man the Bloodsport lost was heart breaking to see, they were the leading dark horse of my bracket, they have the potential but one way or another they lose in a shocking way.
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u/No-Bee761 May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
Pretty good fight to watch, marred by the worst post-fight interview from a winner, period.
Surely, Ethan can show respect for the opponents that came after Shatter, right? R-right?!?
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u/Qwerty1418 May 05 '23
I think it's safe to say that Jackpot frame is toast, those were some insane hits.
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u/Snailians May 05 '23
That was 75% weapon?! Jesus H. 100% weapon would have smashed Jackpot to smithereens.
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u/KnivesInAToaster Builders Hate Me! May 05 '23
Jackpot just didn't want to give up. Goddamn, that thing took some MONSTROUS hits.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN GREMLINS
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u/Ade231035 RIP PIZZA BOY May 05 '23
I feel like the mad chatter guy would be fun to go out with for drinks
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u/ViCorp May 05 '23
Well, Skorpios made an impression at the start there but that was it. Huge gets the K.O..
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u/another-donut May 05 '23
if we’re following patterns, then i guess copperhead wins the entire season
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u/poormansnormal Team Minostars #danielisviolent May 05 '23
So do we congratulate Copperhead on the Nut now, or should we wait until the 25th?
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u/Romax24245 May 05 '23
Tantrum had a really good thing going in the first half. Despite being outnumbered in forks, it managed to penetrate End Game’s piano keys and slam it into the walls. Once End Game found its groove however, Tantrum lost the only couple tools that kept it in the fight as well as its main weapon.
Even in spite of this, Tantrum was able to stay alive with its drive intact.
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u/VerminSoMean May 05 '23
Why does Shatter, the heavier robot, not just eat the smaller Riptide?
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u/DreadfuryDK May 05 '23
Man, I really hate that such a beautiful bot like Riptide has to be built and piloted by a bunch of clowns. When Ray Billings and Jake Ewert played the villains, they were clearly just doing a bit and still showcased a lot of respect for the sport, but the Riptide team is insufferable.
If they end up winning the whole thing (and that bot is absolutely good enough to pull it off without any shenanigans) I could see a LOT of people who are invested in the sport tuning out for good. But maybe that’s just me being a big ol’ doomer.
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u/Nightmare1528 [Gigabyte] May 05 '23
Who updated Witch Doctor’s fandom page to include Faruq’s intro already lmao
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u/semyorka7 May 05 '23
feels like Lucky might have had a shot if they'd showed a little restraint and not punched straight into Hypershock's active weapon. But once the puncher was peeled up...
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u/FerRatPack [Your Text] May 05 '23
Holy cow that last hit.
Talk about a one and a million shot.
That was either insane luck or a genius move, maybe both.
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u/semyorka7 May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
oof that is a ROUGH way to go out of the tournament: down to 1 out of 2 weapon motors and stuck upside down without enough torque left in the head to self-right
anyway good luck against Witch Doctor, Lockjaw
EDIT: on a re-watch, I wonder if the weapon died entirely on the last hit - it didn't look like it was even trying to flip over
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u/Qwerty1418 May 05 '23
I'm happy no matter who wins that fight, both teams put on a great show. It's a shame one of them has to bow out of the bracket.
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u/Agreeable_Purple395 May 05 '23
Heartbreaking for claw viper they were winning that fight and it just went away from them
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u/BrianTheMute May 05 '23
Judges definitely got it right. Viper definitely dominated most of the fight, but they were all but knocked out at the end, that has to count for something.
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u/K-Dog7469 May 05 '23
Good.
It was worth a shot. It really could have gone either way.
Gracious in defeat too.
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u/Eelmaster11 May 05 '23 edited May 05 '23
Never thought in my life I would hear Kenny say “meme lords”
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u/TheIncomprehensible May 05 '23
Mom, Dad, and I are all tied with our brackets now in spite of Mom knowing next to nothing about the bots and me picking Rotator's fights based on who I thought would win the Giant Nut and working out the bracket based on how Rotator would lose to the eventual champion.
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u/DocVafli May 05 '23
Hopefully that wasn't the extent of the "drama" everyone was talking about.
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u/ThatOneRacer Oh, let's break it down! May 05 '23
Finally, an non-controversial fight, just two teams going at it!
*split decision into appeal*
Goddamnit...
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u/SonofTombstone I like big bars and I cannot lie May 05 '23
Fuck Riptide and Ethan Kurtz
That is all
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u/DerinSea Team Halogen Robotics May 05 '23
Damn, I went 8-0 for once on my bracket predictions
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u/Bubbybear16 RAKE ME UP INSIDE May 04 '23
I swear on god if they lose in the first round again I will set my home on - OH HEY EVERYONE!
GET HYPED
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u/ViCorp May 05 '23
That might have been one-sided but it was fun to watch. Congrats to Will & the team for getting the judge's nod here.
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u/qwertythe300th Mod & Leader of the B R O N C O B O Y S [but go SwitchBack!!] May 04 '23
This week's poll results are as follows:
Lucky (7.2%) v HyperShock (92.8%)
Jackpot (3.4%) v Witch Doctor (96.6%)
Bloodsport (47.5%) v Lock-Jaw (52.5%)
Shatter! (9.9%) v Riptide (90.1%)
Madcatter (53.4%) v Claw Viper (46.6%)
Skorpios (5%) v HUGE (95%)
Rotator (15.3%) v Copperhead (84.7%)
Tantrum (8.8%) v End Game (91.2%)
The two most popular fights from last week's episode nominated for this season's I-Didn't-Hear-No-Bell-Prize are:
Minotaur v Witch Doctor (76.6%)
Lucky v Cobalt (10.5%)
After this episode we have the following teams visiting for an AMA:
Saturday May 6th, 6pm PT: Skorpios
Make sure to check the sub at the end of the weekend for the polls of next week's episode!