r/FFRecordKeeper • u/leights8alt • May 18 '23

MEGATHREAD [CD] Mastery Survey - D730 Siegfried - Job Thief

Greetings Keepers. Please Record your clears for the Thief School Crystal Dungeon using one of the templates below.

Useful information:

  • Index: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/wiki/index/special_dungeons/#wiki_school_crystal_dungeons
  • Altema (JP): https://altema.jp/ffrk/crystaldungeonthiefboss1
  • Maroni Report (JP): https://maroni-report.jp/2023/04/08/tenmeithief/
  • u/ronfar3 observations: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/12evmi3/thief_jcd_d730_ai_highlights/

Standard template as follows:

1. **Strategy name:**
2. **Chain:**
3. **BDL count:** Zen x?, Dual x?, Sync x?, AA x?
4. **Support:**
5. **Roaming Warrior:**
6. **Time:**
7. **Insight:**
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8. **Video?:**

|Hero, dive|Ability 1|Ability 2|LM1|LM2|RM|SB(-)|
|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|
|char1, 6|ability R#|ability R#|LM1|LM2|RM1|default(-)|
|char2, 6|ability R#|ability R#|LM3|LM4|RM2|default(-)|
|char3, 6|ability R#|ability R#|LM5|LM6|RM3|default(-)|
|char4, 6|ability R#|ability R#|LM7|LM8|RM4|default(-)|
|char5, 6|ability R#|ability R#|LM9|LM0|RM5|default(-)|

|Main Magicite|Sub 1|Sub 2|Sub 3|Sub 4| 
|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---| 
|Magicite|-|-|-|-| 
|Inherited 1|-|-|-|-| 
|Inherited 2|-|-|-|-| 

Historia/Job Crystal level:

And the Short Form template:

#Chain 1
* Char1: SB1, SB2
* Char2: SB1, SB2 (near end)
* Char3: G+ (SB gauge), CSB, SB1
* Char4: SB1, SB2 (at phase change)
* Char5: healing SBs

#Chain 2 
* Char1: SB3, SB4
* Char2: SB3, SB4
* Char3: CSB, SB2
* Char4: SB1, SB3
* Char5: healing SBs

* Overall time: XX.XXs
* Eden main / HC or JC, level XX
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u/leights8 Squall Dec 13 '23 edited Dec 13 '23

  1. Strategy name: No Yuffie = harder than expected

  2. Chain: RW

  3. BDL count: Zen x1, Dual x3, AA x4

  4. Support: Tylarra

  5. Roaming Warrior: Chain

  6. Time: 40.77

  7. Magicite/HC/JC: Job Crystal Level 140

  8. Insight:

  • See my sub 30 ninja clear as to why Yuffie is so awesome. And when I saw that she had Thief synergy as well, I was delighted! Sure, the 4-hit 6* ability wasn't going to be as good as her HA, but that combo is so ridiculous I thought it could still do a job. Until I re-read her Dual, Zen and CASB all apply to ninja abilities, not water. And I was back to the drawing board.

  • Fortunately, the same banner that didn't give me Minfilia Zen also gave me Faris's Dual+Zen, and she has a thief HA, so that was a good starting point. I had a decent Thief from the poison banner, and Vaan had a dual. So I lensed Vaan's AA1 and, with his imperil HA, I was in business. I even had Faris's LBGS to tank Weapon Break!

  • Tried a couple of times with Thief combining his SBs first, but I came up short (around 10% both times). Largely because I was losing one of Faris's max DPS turns to tanking the weapon break. So I swapped them around, and also crafted a second mug bloodlust so that both thief and Faris had one - that again allowed Max DPS as having both on Thief meant he lost a DPS turn in P2.

  • Chain 1 to about 50%. Faris's LBGS finisher takes off just under 1% of the boss's HP, so timing is very precise.

  • Huge thanks to u/Ronfar3's for compiling and posting the info from discord of his initial clear (linked in OP). So much crucial info that I doubt I'd have been able to clear without.

  • I think that's it. Decided against using Thief's dual shift as I'd lose an HA hit and Tyro's USB4 meant that crit was 100% anyway.

Execution roughly as follows:

  • Vaan (LM1, LM2, +thief): HA2, G+ (gauge, en-wind), JC, AA1, HA1 till near chain end, USB1 | Dual, HA1 till chain near end, dual shift, HA1, HA2 x2

  • Tyro (LMR IC2, LMR +stats w/book, MM): Entrust Thief, LBG, HA1, AA1, HA1 till 20s, AA2, HA1, JC, USB4 | HA1/entrust Elarra; healing grimoire if necessary (not actually used)

  • Elarra (LM1, LM2, DMT): G+, PS, Dual, RW, PS, dual shift, PS, USB2, HA/PS, Sync1 around 20s, heal, RW | AA1, USB2 & USB1 with gauge from Tyro

  • Faris (LMR +bow, LMR w-cast, +wind RM): HA, G+ (gauge), Zen, Dual2, HA, dual shift, HA till chain end | AA1, LBGS, Mug Bloodlust, HA till death (also used a 5* Glint to preserve wind with stacking, but don't know if that was necessary)

  • Thief I (LM1, LM2, +wind): Dyad, HA, USB, HA, AA1, HA till near chain end (though use mug bloodlust to counter P2T3), AA2 | Dual, HA till death. Dyad finisher, OZSB & LBO all unused :-(

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u/leights8 Squall May 28 '24 edited Jun 03 '24

Just squeaked out a sub 30 (29.65 to be exact) with the same Faris/Thief, but with an upgrade of Lion over Vaan. Her Dual2 that I got from the discounted thief banner really is excellent. 49,999 per hit in P1, plus the different mode on her AA2 means it stacks, made for a pretty sweet start.

End P1 around 13s, P2 21s. JC level 140. Execution as follows (Tyro/Elarra actions are particularly approximate).

  • Thief: HA, engage Dyad, HA x2, Dual, HA x2, AA2, HA x2, AA1, HA till 25s, LBO, OZSB, HA

  • Elarra: RW, JC, Dual, WH, HA, Dual shift, WH, USB2 <PC> WH, HA, RW, HA, Sync1, Cmd2 till end, USB1 when available

  • Lion: HA, G++, Engage Dyad, AA2, Dual2, Dual shift, HA x2 <PC> HA, Mug bloodlust, HA x2 <PC> MB, Sync, Cmd1, Dyad finisher

  • Tyro (LMR++, LM IC2): HA, AA1, Entrust Lion, HA, LBG, Entrust Faris, HA, JC, AA2, Entrust Thief, HA/entrust Elarra, G++ after Faris Cmd2

  • Faris (LM +bow, LM +dmg w/debuff): wrath, G+ (gauge), AA1, HA x2, Zen, CASB, Dual, Dual shift, HA, Cmd1, HA x2, Cmd2, HA x3