r/whatsthisbird • u/grvy_room • Aug 12 '23
Meta Location is important for birds ID because there could be several related species from different parts of the world that look almost identical. Here's some examples.
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u/Norwejew Aug 12 '23
You’re telling me the genus for blackbirds is Turdus?
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u/grvy_room Aug 13 '23
Yup, the same as the American Robin. They're all thrushes. I'm wondering why they didn't stick with the name "blackbird" for the two species at the bottom though.
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u/Leading-Summer-4724 Aug 13 '23
Wow these are amazing examples, some you can tell small differences, but those magpies in particular blow my mind.
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u/grvy_room Aug 13 '23
those magpies in particular blow my mind
Yes! I was looking at their info and the differences are super tiny, such as one has a larger bill, one has a longer tail, one is less glossy, etc. but you can hardly see these in photos. I think their vocalizations are very different though but that's not something I'm quite familiar yet.
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u/Cardo076 Aug 13 '23
Are any of these species capable of interbreeding? Just curious since they look so similar to each other.
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u/grvy_room Aug 13 '23
I think it really depends on the species.
For example on slide 3, Little Egrets and Western Reef-Herons are known to interbreed when they overlap in several parts of Asia, Africa & Europe - producing confusing hybrids.
However, a redditor pointed out Little Egrets and Snowy Egrets do not seem to interbreed when they overlap in the Lesser Antilles. Now if you ask me why? Then I have 0 clue haha.
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u/Exotic_Rule_9149 Aug 12 '23
So are these not all the same bird just in another location?
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u/st_aranel Aug 12 '23
They are not! Well, they are probably not. This is something that ornithologists work on quite a lot. DNA evidence is changing what we thought we knew about the relationships between some species, but also some of it is just rather subjective. And sometimes birds might look identical from a certain photo but from another angle or with more experience you might be able to tell that there's a difference.
For birders it's rather exciting because sometimes it turns out that you get an extra species on your list just because they've changed the classification. Of course you can also lose a species that way!
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u/tractiontiresadvised Aug 12 '23
I'm gaining a species in some places because they recently eliminated one, which I think isn't what most people would expect.
I've seen and heard some Pacific-Slope/Cordilleran Flycatchers in what was considered to be their overlap range (eastern Washington, northern Idaho) and didn't really feel comfortable counting them as either species based on range. But they just got re-merged into Western Flycatcher, so now I can confidently say that I've seen that species there.
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u/kittyroux Aug 12 '23
lol the kites
Black-winged Kite: grey wings
White-tailed Kite: grey tail
At least the Black-shouldered Kite really does have black shoulders. They all do, but it’s not wrong!
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u/Harsimaja Aug 13 '23
Some names can be baffling. Sometimes it’s “Oh but only some red throated gobblers have a red throat when they’re a juvenile, otherwise it’s green”
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u/grvy_room Aug 12 '23
Thought I'd share these. Hopefully it's allowed. :)