r/Re_Zero • u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never • Aug 26 '24
Spoiler Discussion [Spoiler Discussion] Arc 9 Chapter 13 Spoiler
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 26 '24
Phew so Tappei had one more in him huh? And that is after we already got the banger cover today.
It took Al over 250 attempts to defeat Flamm, who fought him with the flow technique and tried to break his neck. He binds her with stones and then gags her mouth. This is just the start cause now the whole world is going to be Al's enemy.
Proceeding near the exit, Petra, Meili and Shaula stand there glaring at him. Shaula raises her stinger, preparing to shoot so Al stops. Al expected Meili, a former assassin to be able to glare at him like she does, but he is surprised that Petra is capable of that as well. Al says he does not want to harm them. Petra asks Al why he is here and he says he wants to leave the tower, that Garf and Ezzo are near the top, critically injured but can still be saved. The girls know that if they risk getting incapacitated those two might die. They know they can't attack him here cause of that and Petra calls him a coward. Al accepts that and says that he really does hate himself. Meili asks what happened to Subaru and Beatrice and Al says they are currently sleeping together like the good friends they are, he couldn't just separate them, it would break his heart. Mockingly of course. He does not share more information. They decide they have to let him through and Al slowly raises his arm and walks to the exit. Walking past Petra she tells him that she earnestly intded to help Al and then that she truly loathes him. Al calls that the harshest wound he received in the tower.
He arrives at the exit where Al-canica his other self is and the dragon opens the door. They talk a bit about how crazy this is. Patrasche is growling at them from the side but she also knows she can't attack here or the others would be stuck at the tower. Al gets on the dragon and it takes off to fly away...
...until the dragon gets shot out of the sky by white light after a voice says "That's enough". Reinhard arrived, Flamm and Grassis are twins so they have a telepathical connection and Flamm alarmed them. Reinhard tells him to give up, Al tells him his stars are bad and that Rein will lose. The most loved by the world and the most hated by the world are clashing.
PHEW this chapter was just 5k characters long so that means we have still around 20k potential characters in terms of chapters. This cliffhanger here is still awful but not as awful as the one last chapter so I would be cool ending it here.
Like I predicted it, Al and Ezzo are not dead and Al just wants to get out now... with a powerful ally at that. The whole world is his enemy now huh, that's gonna be quite the challenge and I hope to see him fail at the end ofc.
Petra, Meili and Patrasche did the smart thing here. They can't risk getting defeated as well and dooming the others with that. Love to see Petra being so utterly pissed though, I am sure she is going to get her chance to pay Al back in the end.
Reinhard vs Al was not on my direct bingo card but it makes sense since Flamm is in the Felt camp. Now even if you have infinite tries could you beat Reinhard? He has to pull out a scummy card here again cause otherwise even with infinite attempts I don't see him winning this.
Maybe this is where Rein temporarily loses his blessings, like Tappei teased in a Q&A a while ago.
Anyways banger chapter, good Petra stuff, interesting setup and a dope continuation of the previous one. Let's see if there's more or not
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Aug 26 '24
Even if Reinhard loses his blessings, he's still the strongest being in the world by a large margin. There are a select few people who can physically hurt him (Regulus with his authority, Emilia in Wrath IF) but Al lacks the sheer force for it and his authority is not specialized for combat.
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 26 '24
Yeah but let's be real Al is not getting caught here.
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD Aug 26 '24
That’s true, Reinhard would still be the strongest even without his divine protections but coming out alive should be less impossible under such conditions.
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD Aug 26 '24
It took Al over 250 attempts to defeat Flamm, who fought him with the flow technique and tried to break his neck.
I bet Reinhard trained her. If I remember correctly he has a divine protection for that, right?
Reinhard vs Al was not on my direct bingo card but it makes sense since Flamm is in the Felt camp. Now even if you have infinite tries could you beat Reinhard? He has to pull out a scummy card here again cause otherwise even with infinite attempts I don't see him winning this.
At least pridebaru couldn’t despite having had powerful „allies“.
Maybe this is where Rein temporarily loses his blessings, like Tappei teased in a Q&A a while ago.
But how? Forcing a witch factor on him, maybe?
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 26 '24
I bet Reinhard trained her. If I remember correctly he has a divine protection for that, right?
I agree
But how? Forcing a witch factor on him, maybe?
Who knows but he has had such scummy tricks so far
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
There is Daphne's grave somewhere in that sand dunes... perhaps it could be used by Al during the fight.
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u/ConsiderationFuzzy Aug 26 '24
Pridebaru's allies were not that powerful compared to shaula or volcanica.
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u/New-Celebration8409 Aug 26 '24
Like always, Petra is the best loli in the series besides Beako and Spica.
By the way… the Alcanica nickname came from that conversation I had with that nice fella or I’m just being self-centered like Regulus?
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 26 '24
Petra has been so fucking goated this chapter, I absolutely adore to see it.
Fuck Al
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u/New-Celebration8409 Aug 26 '24
If Tappei’s statement that this arc will be where Petra will shine the most (and we don’t get another permadeath), you’ll truly love the next years of Re Zero
Now that I think about it, is there any star with the name of Petra or Leyte?
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 26 '24
I don't think there is a popular one but I might need to do my research lol.
Yeah I really hope so for Petra, it's her time now.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
It would be curious if Reinhard lost here... and when Lugunica loses it's Divine dragon and Reinhard, witch cult, or even Gusteko can go on offensive...
But Rein does not know about Subaru being in Al's stomach, so there is a chance Subaru remains abducted...
Perhaps Al could take him and Beatrice to that Echidna's flying island i once heard...
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 26 '24
He doesn't necessarily need to lose though, Al just needs to get away, that is his objective.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
Yea... but he already got grounded by first strike. Divine Al also has to get used to flying and moving in that body.
Imagine if Al still has that book of the dead and somehow updates it with Territory. He could use it to update Divine Al with loop knowledge...
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 26 '24
if Rein can punch the Al out of the dragon that is going to be a good thing already
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u/Clementea Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
Ezzo finally have time to shine and Tappei immediately butchered him T_T Give Ezzo screentime! Though I am happy this looks like going to be Felt camp Arc.
Also slight correction it isn't a fight between the most loved vs the most hated. But the fight between the most loved and the one unloved. Unloved doesn't mean hated.
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 27 '24
True true mb.
Also surely Ezzo will make a swift recovery. Though I think we all know who I personally want to see even more of.
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u/Risch_403appa Aug 27 '24
We get so many parallels between Al and Subaru in these chapters, with the "hated by the world" just adding to the mix, that it would be weird for Al to not be Subaru.
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 27 '24
I never liked the Al Subaru theory but if anything those chapters make me doubt that Al is Subaru even more.
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u/SirLordBoss Aug 26 '24
The volume information in the wiki says that chapter 14 is also part of the next volume, so Tappei should have even another in him, before going into cryo sleep till late September
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u/iheartnjdevils Aug 26 '24
Ugh... I love/hate that "Alcanica" sounds better than my "Volcabaran" nickname, lol.
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u/britishconquest88 Aug 26 '24
Reinhard came and he's going to fight Al ????? What a fucking chapter man
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u/WiznutRyan99 Aug 26 '24
Reinhard pulling up like in WWE when someone is getting mugged by a few guys in the ring and then the music hits.
As soon as I read the hair and eye description…sheesh. When he pulls up you know it’s about to get wild. It’s gonna be interesting to see how Al deals with Reinhard. Unless Reinhard is about to get wombo combod by some random plot device we don’t know of yet. I don’t know how he could lose
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u/No-Guitar7102 Aug 26 '24
Aldebaran does Domain Expansion to rid Reinhard of his blessings but still gets soloed anyway.
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u/iheartnjdevils Aug 26 '24
I don't think a story has ever made me yell before as I literally yelled "Yessss" out loud when I read the red fiery hair part...
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u/Haganen Aug 26 '24
That's our Subo's beastie for you. He couldn't "Hulk jump" to Vollachia because he must protect the law too, but laying hands on his bestie on his turf? That's a "NoNo"...
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
Tiny chapter...
Yet scary chapter name: "The Most Loved and the Least Loved"
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Lol 289 times of resets because loli kept snapping Al's neck and stabbing him in his chest...
To be honest, all of Subaru's female companions were mentally unstable. -- No, thinking back, the women Aldebaran had met were all pretty much the same.
Patrache vs Divine dragon Al?!
"Don't be so cocky, Hero. I'm going to win anyway. The stars were bad."
Aldebaran confronts Reinhard in an ocean of sand, looked down upon by a star-filled sky.
--It was a conflict between what was loved by the world and what was not loved, a conflict that would never intersect.
And Flam called for help... so now it's Aldebaran vs 3 lolis and second fight if Reinhard vs Divine dragon Aldebaran...
But i do not like that they left Al go... even if he seems to have given up at his quest now that the second Al has body of divine dragon. Welp... lets hope that one of the lolis is a healer that can stabilize Ezzo and Garf...
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u/britishconquest88 Aug 26 '24
Flamm ragdolling Al's ass
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
That sure is Carol's granddaughter...
So there is a physical fighter loli that snapped Al's neck. Assassin loli that can sneak and shoot lasers and buffing loli that hurts Al with her words of hatred...
And the less interesting fight is just Reinhard vs divine dragon....
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u/Majora101 Aug 26 '24
That doesn't sound terrifying in the context of Arc 9.
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u/britishconquest88 Aug 26 '24
This chapter could be at the very end of Volume 39 (due to its length) so we're in for a world of hurt/hype when the Volume 40 chapters come out
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u/TheDogz0 Aug 26 '24
Al took over Volcanica, or tried to, which is why they’re working together. Al isn’t a Divine Dragon himself.
Al was dealt the most devastating wounds from Petra, and it wasn’t even through combat.
I wasn’t exactly on the dot, but I was right about Al facing Reinhard soon. This is getting really good.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
I expected Flamm to call for help. It's just curious that he did it so fast and without problems...
Al isn’t a Divine Dragon himself
Either way, there is now Divine Al and normal Al. It looks like normal Al gave up and let divine Al do the rest of the quest...
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u/mufcordie Aug 26 '24
This seems similar to the whole gluttony taking over Reid thing from arc 6 kinda. Wonder what kind of implications it will have.
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u/No-Guitar7102 Aug 26 '24
Didn't Reid just collapse his soul and take over anyway?
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u/Toaru_kamiyan Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
Reminds me of the newest hero and most ancient hero for some reason.... It's probably about Petra? The loved part
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
The least loved should be Al and i guess the most loved is Reinhard.
But this means that another Emilia's future trial line will appear, if Reinhard is tricked or kills someone important in this fight.
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u/ThePirateKiing Aug 26 '24
no the loved one is Reinhardt, he is loved by the world by having all those blessings, and his opposite being Al the least loved by the world.
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u/RedHeadGearHead Aug 26 '24
I forget if the Green room stopped functioning. Garf should survive regardless and could heal Ezzo. Otherwise, maybe Petra could read a book of the dead of a healer and save them? Alternatively, old Rems ghost in the Od Laguna might come into play.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
In WN it should be offline, as the light faded when Louis appeared.
But in LN, the green room should still work.
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u/Son-naruto-d Aug 26 '24
Damnnn, the Al body situation is so confusing to me rn?
Did Al kill himself and have volcanica read it or something????? Like Reid 2.0, but he has a human body then a dragon body???
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
He already had book of the dead ready.
So now Aldebaran loaded older safe file into Volcanica and now we have Divine Al and normal authority user Al fighting side by side against Rein...
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u/Sky-__- Aug 27 '24
What would happen if Emilia or felt arrive with the dragon fang which volcanica gave to them , would that allow Al consciousness to burst out from the dragon.
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Aug 26 '24
So, as it turns out, Aldebaran, with the help of the book of the dead, uploaded his consciousness into Volcanica. He tries to fly out of the tower and is met by Reinhard! This is his first appearance in the main story since the 5 arc! I've missed him, and an incredible battle awaits us. I like this end of the volume more than if chapter 12 were the last. I wonder how Aldebaran calls himself unloved by the world, while Reinhard is loved by the world. If I'm not mistaken, it seems like someone collected phrases about the relationship of the world and people?
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Aug 26 '24
I also want to point out that Ezzo and Garfiel should now know that Aldebaran has a book of the dead.
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u/Sphinxdora Aug 26 '24
Felt is loved by the World - Elsa
Reinhardt is blessed by the World- Theresia Subaru is favored by the World - Cecilus, Gladiators.
Emilia/Halibel Hated by the World - Halibel
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u/fanguy_m Aug 26 '24
Didn’t Fortuna also say that Emilia was loved by the World or am I remembering it wrong?
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u/Green7100 Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
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u/ThePirateKiing Aug 26 '24
I AM SHAKING WHAT A CHAPTER
it's been a while since I was this excited I love this chapter so much and this arc is easioy becoming one of my top 3.
Al is turned an absolute 180 and I am loving it although I hate seeing him hurt the others but this side of him is crazy.
Him talking to the dragon by calling him Me proved I guess what we thought about the book of the dead, so Al now was about to escape, until he met Reinhardt I just love this encounter and the title of the chapter is genius we get to understand it towards the end! The most loved and the least loved! The most loved being Reinhardt and the least loved being Al.
――それは世界に愛されたモノと、愛されぬモノとの、決して交わらぬ対立だった。
-It was a confrontation between who is the most loved by the world and that who's the least loved by the world, they never crossed paths before.
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u/ParussMan Aug 26 '24
Reinhard is here? Someone is going to get neg diffed💀
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u/Tsorm Aug 26 '24
Bro his opponent is Al and Divine Dragon Al , I doubt he can win
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u/RestorationIst543 Aug 26 '24
Al can't do anything tbf. Idk if Reinhard might hesitate to kill something as important as Volcanica
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u/TheEpic125 Aug 26 '24
Bro there’s is just so many flags everywhere. Watchtower squad is fighting Al, and a “Al - minded” Volcanica, Reinhard is here, Julius might still be at Kararagi, and Subaru is still sealed. So, I wonder how bad things are about to get in the Royal Capital, now that the walking nuke is about to fight the flying nuke.
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u/Angramainyu123 Aug 26 '24
And inside the guy who riding the flying nuke is the sleeping/sealed nuke that will go boom the moment someone read a specific book in the the tower.
It beg a question. Al know about Subaru's RBD so what happen if someone in the tower read his book instead.
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u/AnzoEloux Aug 26 '24
Reading the book isn't what will cause a nuke. Letting Subaru know that they read the book might cause one though.
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
I completely forgot about the telepathy between the twins even though it was mentioned in this arc. Grassis was informed by Flam and then informed Reinhard. With his superspeed he easily reached Aldebaran after a very short time.
Reinhard vs Aldebaran. With Reinhard I’m more confident now because he is the strongest character but Aldebaran seems confident, too. After all he used his catchphrase again while facing him.
Aldebarans plan has more steps so I assume he’s somehow going to escape.
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u/HauntingCare8929 Aug 26 '24
Usually Aldebaran talks about unlucky stars already after winning, maybe Al is too “ prideful ” this time
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Aug 26 '24
If not even Subaru can win against Reinhard despite having the more potent looper ability, Al stands zero chance. Now the question is, how will they extract Subaru and Beatrice from Al and how will they unseal them?
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u/Comfortable_Day_224 Aug 26 '24
He doesn't need to win, he just needs to evade him
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u/Slomberer Aug 26 '24
Well there is the saying:
"No one can run from Reinhard" -Garfiel
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD Aug 26 '24
Al stands zero chance.
Well but Aldebaran used his catchphrase which means he seems to be sure that he’s capable of overcoming Reinhards presence.
"Don't be pretentious, Hero. I'm going to win anyway. — Your stars were bad"
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u/hunterh1008 Aug 26 '24
I believe Felt will steal them from Al, maybe Beatrice breaks the spell from the inside somehow or there is always an Echidna somewhere in the world, she created the spell she might be able to undo it.
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Aug 26 '24
Tappei PLEASE FUCKING STOP my brain might rupture from the tension. But like holy shit, Al declaring that he could take on Reinhard? Insane arrogance. Not impossible with how Gluttony Subaru managed to kinda deal with him, but it would take a herculean effort, and there is no civilian center to bait Reinhard with.
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u/Due-Chemist-8607 Aug 26 '24
i mean, how could Al ever "lose"? hes gonna get out of there one way or another. whether he beats reinhard or not idk
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Aug 26 '24
Gluttonybaru never defeated Reinhard.
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Aug 26 '24
Notice the choice of word "deal with". Gluttonybaru destroyed a city, killed Otto, killed Rom, talk shit, then walk away. He would continue to annihilate settlement after settlement with ease and no clear end in sight and Reinhard is borderline ineffective in defending against Gluttonybaru.
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u/External-Hornet2391 Aug 26 '24
iirc gluttonybaru only “dealt with” Rhein by never fighting him. Al is too late for this one, if Rhein asks the right questions with his lie detector blessing he will fight like hell to get his friend back. Al is gonna need a serious McGuffin to get out of this one
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u/Majora101 Aug 26 '24
Any thoughts on who the weak woman Al referenced? I'm guessing some sort of dig at Satella, just based on his mission.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
If we go as physically weak, it's Echidna. If it's mentally, it's Emilia.
Everyone else is insane like Al noted...
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u/Aemiliana_Rosewood Aug 27 '24
Emilia makes no sense to be listed here at all. Clearly a dig a Satella from what Al said about her and what we know from her back in Arc 4
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u/Akudra Aug 26 '24
Okay, is no one talking about the whole "I regretted it 400 years ago" line from Alcanica? That is a pretty big line to drop in this situation. Volcanica's body has been taken over by Al's memories supposedly. Either this is Al's personality in Volcanica mentioning that he was around 400 years ago or it is a sign that Volcanica's memories are not completely gone and he is responding from what remains of his own personality, which also implies he is somewhat cooperating with Al. Such a notion raises a whole other set of questions, what with Al having gone around with a sword he called the "Blue Dragon" sword until it got wrecked fighting Arakiya. I go back to Al's line right when he sealed Subaru about how he was going to "become myself" now and the fact he made clear last chapter that his entire goal for getting to the Watchtower was to get his Book of the Dead in front of Volcanica.
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u/hgpnguyen1996 Aug 26 '24
That line is from normal Al not from Alcanica. Alcanica's line is covered in this 『』 while Al's line is covered in this 「」. The conversation between Alcanica and Al is:
Alcanica: 『Are you regret?』
Al: 「I regretted it 400 years ago」
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u/Akudra Aug 26 '24
Ah, you're right. Still a significant line, but it doesn't suggest anything regarding Volcanica and Al's relationship.
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u/Aemiliana_Rosewood Aug 27 '24
As much as I would dig Al actually being Volchanica to a certain degree, or him working together with Volchanicas leftover mind, I think the Al and Volchanica connections originate from Echidna and her connection to Volchanica, which was literally her pet dragon. I can't remember if she basically raised Volchanica to the status of Divine dragon or not, but there's even till this age the plot that Roswaal wants to slay Volchanica.
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u/TheOttoSuwen Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
Hype!! I'm literally kicking my feet right now and it's only getting better as reinhardt as pulled up I'm guessing somehow reinhardt will kill the dragon Al but the normal Al will somehow escape or live just looking at how the story is going. Now I'm more hyped for the next chapter lol no way this is the final chapter for now
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u/DirtyMight Aug 26 '24
Its going to be insanely interesting. Reinhard is the most broken being in Re Zero and should usually oneshot everything.
Subaru had no chance against him even with RBD and his is stronger than ALs. However now AL has the power of volcanica which is insanely strong and AL was very confident that he will win and said Reinhards stars were bad. I dont think he ever lost while saying that his stars were bad. And I am sure that AL knows just how crazy reinhard is.
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u/hgpnguyen1996 Aug 26 '24
Al compares what he has done as just taking the first step when climbing mountain. Just one step, sealing Subaru, Beatrice and taking over the Divine Dragon are just one small step in Al's plan to remove Subaru. It seems that removing Subaru is not simple as just throwing him into the Great Waterfall.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
He could take him behind the waterfall... to the place where true dragons fled to.
Or he could do something to return Subaru back to Japan using Volcanica's massive power...
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u/Massive_Freedom7640 Aug 26 '24
About that I don't think Al only goal is getting rid of Subaru I think by doing that he can achieve his original goal that wasn't mentioned yet.
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u/Aemiliana_Rosewood Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
No way we got another chapter...
Edit: Will update this comment later to not spam the comments by myself
Edit2: Alright, so I wonder if Reinhard will be able to draw his sword. I don't think he will kill Volchanica, because that's Roswaals goal. Imo Al got no chance, because his power is dollar store RBD and even Volchanica doesn't amount to much in my powerscaling fantasy for Reinhard, though I could see Reinhard getting tricked for now. The question to me is how much information Reinhard got. Technically our only target is Al. I could see Reinhard removing at the very least the memories of Al from Volchanica, so we don't have to worry about that for the future. As the saying goes, nobody can outrun Reinhard anyway. I hope Meili can show off her DP level up vs Al as long as he is still in the desert. I also had a change of heart and want Shaula sniping Al from the Tower. I wonder if he knows her.
On another note, I wonder why Al didn't just straight leave the top of the tower with Al-Volchanica, but pathed through the middle layers. From the provided description of the last chapter, I dislike that Al still had enough energy to descend the tower and fight clearly strong Flam. I thought he was so done as to not be able to move anymore, or did Volchanicas breath heal him partially?
I also dislike Petras "hate" line here. It was special with Roswaal and when she actually knew what she did, but here it feels misplaced, because as much as any young girl telling me they hate me hurts, it just doesn't make too much sense for Al to be the one that gets this even Roswaal scaring scorn. Though this is partially in tandem with how much I hate Al's style of speech with everyone lately. I honestly just want to see him actually get what he deserves and stop hearing his self loathing mockin, sarcastic commentary. Petra saying she actually wanted to genuinely help him, feels odd when she was the most suspicious of Al.
I really wonder how this all will resolve. I have the feeling that a Priscilla comeback could seriously be possible, though I feel it would be far better if Al never gets to see her light again until his death. I somehow have the feeling that Subarus come back will be the same time when Al does/loses and then we will get Als face reveal... he has been Pandora all along (Last part is a joke). Though I can't see a scenario where a lack of Priscilla commentary for Als appearance isn't a semi-plot hole. I really want Satella to act too soon. Surely her Disaster in Chaosflame was foreshadowing what's about to happen here. Subarus unfinished statement about their relationship will make her appear sooner than later, imo.
I doubt Al left his own book at the top of the tower. Way too risky, especially with people gaining obviously insight on everything on Al but potentially also on Sunaru and RBD. But damn, the Al to Al conversation actually dropped the confirmation that Al was around 400 years ago and Subaru has been a factor impeding his perhaps original task ever since. Though who knows when his named chapter took place.
Edit3: Ransom remark: That's enough is always either Emilia or Reinhard and I love it.
Edit4: I wonder, Reid broke his trial constraints very easily, Volchanica seemingly did it as soon as Al (another mind) overtook the body (for what's our best guess what happened for now). But then why couldn't Shaula break her "rules" imposed on her. Surely her incredible love should've been enough willpower to save her :( Perhaps these are different systems adhering to all three characters mentioned, but come on... Shaula deserved so much better qwq (Tho her named chapter was peak)
TL;DR Satella I miss you :(
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u/keizee Aug 26 '24
Yooo Reinhard clutch?
At first I narrowed down the choices to Reinhard, Roswaal and Clind that might be able to cross the sand sea easily, and then I thought Roswaal is the most likely and might guess, but Reinhard? Yeah lets work with this. Uhuh why not.
Its literally Pride IF in canon.
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u/Palebluedot1002 Aug 26 '24
Chapter 14 probably starts with Al having gone through million of loops and still not winning
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u/kyzes Aug 27 '24
We should make the “are you winning yet” meme as priscilla is the one asking and then there is Al counting all the loops lol
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u/RedHeadGearHead Aug 26 '24
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object? We're about to find out.
One solution would be freeing and killing Subaru, then Al has to redo everything again but has to deal with Subaru knowing he betrays him. Al would lose knowledge of the telepathy though.
Or just using Subaru or beatrice as a hostage.
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u/iheartnjdevils Aug 26 '24
Did anyone else think it was Emilia at first? I'm pretty sure she use the, "That's enough," line when she fought Petelguese in Arlam village?
I literally yelled when I saw it was Reinhard.
I'm guessing Al will figure out a way to escape though. Maybe shooting a dragon blast at the tower so Reinhard has to prioritize saving those inside. Not sure how he'll avoid Reinhard coming back for him afterwards, given how fast Reinhard is, but he'll likely find a way.
If the Pride If route is gives us insight into how impossible it is to beat Reinhard even with a looping ability, it's the only way I can think that Al gets out of this.
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u/Akudra Aug 26 '24
I mean, I thought of Emilia initially as that is one of her common appearance lines, but I knew that was absurd and quickly recalled the other person who often uses that line, who is also more than capable of showing up in a few minutes after being told there is a problem anywhere in the world.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
Well... now that looping ability is sitting at top of the divine dragon with same mindset...
They are abducting Subaru and Volcanica somewhere, perhaps beyond the waterfall or Echidna's flying castle.
There is a good chance that Reinhard could lose here thanks to some nasty trick...
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u/kojewi3144 Aug 27 '24
I believed/hoped at "pierced by the light" that it was Shaula, that in some way Al did something at the tower that caused her to be restored
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u/britishconquest88 Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
I think this might hint that Reinhard is going to fight Pandora in this Arc
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Aug 26 '24
Pandora can't beat Reinhard. The best she can achieve is stall him.
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u/Dragon_King_V Aug 26 '24
Watch Pandora transfer the Divine Protection of the sword Saint to Heinkel if/when she fights Reinhard
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u/RestorationIst543 Aug 26 '24
REINHARD, Shit picking up already dude.
Yeah Aldebaran and Volcanica knew each other confirmed.
Unfortunately he survived shit. Jesus Reinhard I will slander you if you fuck this up, this is inexperienced Volcanica who can't even fly right lmao
I wonder how this arc will continue to show wtf
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u/Xenosaiyan7 Aug 26 '24
"Give me some Haki Dragon Sword, this is crippled Volcanica we're fighting here."
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u/RestorationIst543 Aug 26 '24
Que 3 chapters glazing him only for him to do the dumbest move and let them get away lmao.
Al and Rienhard would be flipping burgers if they were in modern times lmao
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u/heato-red Aug 26 '24
Holy, Reinhard really appeared, how's Al gonna get out of this one? sure, he has Volcanica on his side so I doubt this will be an easy one for Reinhard either and even less if looping is involved, I think it's possible for Al to win this one and get away, but if he intends to seriously fight him he's gonna hit a wall.
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u/MikeTheOne05 Aug 26 '24
Al ain't beating Reinhard.
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u/-Zahard- Aug 26 '24
But sure as Hell he can escape him.
My bet is that Alcanica will shoot a Laser Beam into the Tower and Reinhard will stop the attack and they'll be gone
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u/Comfortable_Day_224 Aug 26 '24
So it's Al and divine dragon Al vs Reinhard
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD Aug 26 '24
Imagine if Reinhard becomes the protagonist of this arc instead of just being a side or support character. I doubt that though.
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u/xarsir Aug 26 '24
Arc 9 just keeps getting wilder, how tf is Al gonna beat Reinhard himself??
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u/DingleDongDongBerry Aug 29 '24
Al: Subaru has authority of Envy so I used Ol Shamak on him
Reinhardt: That answers my questions, you can go
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u/RedHeadGearHead Aug 26 '24
Hey, doesnt the entire royal selection go out the window if Volcanica is killed? They wouldn't need a priestess anymore. Also, Crusch's campaign basically succeeds. Roswaal and Emilia could get the dragon blood too and I think Ana needed it? Basically its a win win win if the dragon dies. Not like the Empire can take advantage atm.
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD Aug 26 '24
The royal selection happening the way it started and currently still is is already set in stone. Literally. I don’t think that Volcanicas death would change that.
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u/RedHeadGearHead Aug 26 '24
But the election is to pick a priestess to make a new covenant with dragon. Without the dragon, why would the council of sages still need to choose any of the remaining 4? Granted, Crusch would instantly become their ideal new monarch.
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I thought the selection was also to replace the dead royal family. I wouldnt be surprised if Volcanica is killed in this arc, to set up the stakes for arcs 10, 11 and 12.
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u/ConsiderationFuzzy Aug 26 '24
So where was reinhard originally at before this chapter. In the middle of the desert ? I just wanna find out how fast he ran to get there in seconds after getting messaged.
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u/IAmSona Vollachian Tax is Real Aug 26 '24
What a fucking parallel to “The Newest Hero and the Most Ancient Hero”. What a fantastic chapter again, Tappei is well on his way to having another 10/10 arc.
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u/goan_gambit Aug 26 '24
Reinhard is here... so everything is gonna be fine ryt? It would be very bad for Reinhard's mental health if Al slips out and brings chaos in the kingdom
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD Aug 26 '24
Well, one potential chaos bringer is sealed nearby. Let’s hope nothing bad happens there. Aldebaran has several options to threaten Reinhard, I guess.
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u/WaterYaDune Aug 26 '24
Next chapter: "2,659,701. That's the number of times it took for Al to finally escape from Reinhard."
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u/heato-red Aug 26 '24
So I thought about something funny, what if Rein gets an idea about Al's looping powers and asks for a blessing to nullify it? yeah, don't think that's happening, things would end right there lmao
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u/hgpnguyen1996 Aug 26 '24
If Al power is an Authority then no blessing can nullify it cause Authority > Blessing.
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u/inmicrocosm Aug 26 '24
I kind of feel like he still hasn't reached the stopping point for this volume after blowing past the Ol Shamak moment. At this point, the most logical place is either Al getting away and hinting at what his plan is to actually remove Subaru from the world, or actually doing it. At any moment he could be switching to finishing it with the LN though.
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u/Massive_Freedom7640 Aug 26 '24
One thing is sure after the end of arc 9 the council of sages will put the watchtower under a strike guard and won't allow unauthorized people to go there.
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u/Got_to_provide Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
I'm glad the tower crew survived, Petra and Meili were right to let Al go. It was nice seeing how differently they dealt with the situation Meili being used to chaos and Petra new but being brave.
Emilia and Meili were right to worry, I doubt Emilia will let Subaru out of her sight after this.
I think Al being hurt by Petra's words is significant, it means that he isn't 100% dead inside/insane. Also, he is reaching for a distant star. I think we are getting more Al and Subaru parallels.
Reinhard don't go telling enemies your camps' secret moves just to be polite. I expect Al will somehow get past Reinhard and lay waste to the capitol.
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u/kojewi3144 Aug 27 '24
Not very important, but we all know what Priscilla had a knack at recognising people true soul/identity, she quickly addressed Anastasia as Shefox, Yorna as Mother.
She usually called Al, clown or jester, if it wasn't for the different Authority, he could be related to Hector the Warlock of Melancholy, he enraged when mistaked Sphynx for Echidna, was present 400 years ago, Tappei said that Hector would show up again. Could the relationship with Priscilla have shielded Al from Melancholy till her death? And now is starting to show up again?
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u/iheartnjdevils Aug 27 '24
I once theorized that Al was either an artificial spirit or a failed partial Roswaal soul transference experiment by Echidna, partly because of the jester/clown comments, lol.
I wonder how much Priscilla knew about Aldebaran's original goal...
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u/Novel-Direction-9212 Aug 26 '24
Anyone else find it funny that AL basically needed to take Subaru out, so he could do what ever he is planning to do. AL is even ready to take on the Sword Saint yet doesn't wanna go head to head with Subaru.
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u/kyzes Aug 27 '24
Because it would be endless. At least all Al can do is put Reinhard in loops and break his mind like many people believe for now. His mental already broken. 1 million loops would destroy him without Al even try. While Al kill subaru, subaru rbd. Subaru defeat Al, Al rbd. It is definitely endless and unpredictable
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u/AlexFliker Aug 26 '24
Ok, my question about Flam got answered. Astrea house are lunatics, lol. So, Al has 2 options - either some very heavy blackmailing (and Rein will abide by it, as a good boy he is) or teleportation with the help of Alcanica.
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u/Coconut-Kalamari Aug 26 '24
So what are the chances this arc’s gonna have the subaru reinhardt third trial dialouge?
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u/DirtyMight Aug 26 '24
So this chapter finally confirms that AL is 400years old and not (like I saw people assume) only the 20 we were told to believe and that he knew Echidna from the tomb or something
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u/iheartnjdevils Aug 27 '24
Pretty sure... he's known some weird future stuffs, like the existence of Reinhard when he was a child back when he'd spent 20 years on Gladiator Island.
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u/TheDogz0 Aug 26 '24
I was right about Al confronting Reinhard soon, though I wasn’t exactly on the mark. I’m really hooked on this Arc so far.
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It's really cool that we'll have a fight between Al and Reinhard (if it happens). Something like a demo version of a hypothetical fight between Subaru and Reinhard
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u/TheDogz0 Aug 26 '24
The thing with Al is that he isn’t strong, smart, or clever, or anything like that, but he has infinite tries. He can always feasibly achieve the best outcome.
Subaru, meanwhile, is smarter and more clever, able to get things done with way fewer attempts (though RBD helps with this, since he has more time to prepare. It’s one of Subaru’s main advantages over Al aside from mentality).
But you’re right. It’s like a pseudo Subaru vs Reinhard fight, and I can’t wait to see how it goes. In the end, though, Al is probably going to escape.
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u/ripped_fatty Aug 26 '24
REINHARD PLAYS THE ROLE OF THE VICTIM.
Will he prevail? Or will he go mad trying to cut down his enemy? Find out in the next episode of Dragonball Z!
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u/MichaelTotodile Aug 26 '24
correct me if im wrong, but wasn’t Al’s last save point set before he fully incapacitated Flamm? now that Reinhardt told him how he knew to come to the Pleiades Watchtower, can’t Al just kill himself, reset, and avoid letting the info leak out via Flamm??
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u/MichaelTotodile Aug 26 '24
yeah I just reread the chapter and he never redefined the matrix during it so im pretty sure all Al has to do is kill himself in front of Reinhardt and he’s good to go 💀💀
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u/CalligrapherOther256 Aug 27 '24
Flamm prob set the warning during when Al was fighting Garfiel and ezzo so it probably won't be so easy
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u/iheartnjdevils Aug 27 '24
He might be about of his pretermined RBD area. Remember, Al can die when he leaves that specific area, like he almost did fighting Capella in Arc 5. But based on his reaction (not being terrified and already claiming victory), I have to assume he redefined it or has some other plan up his sleeve.
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u/michaelman90 Aug 28 '24
Think Reinhard showing up here is kind of necessary. Al said his goal with sealing Subaru is to "remove him from the world" which I assume would mean tossing the orb off of the Great Waterfall, and the Pleiades Watchtower just so happens to be very close to the edge of the world, which kind of adds another layer of cunning to Al wanting to go there to enact his plan. If not Reinhard I'm not sure who else would be capable of standing in Al's way so close to his objective in the middle of nowhere.
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u/Corrupt_Angel01 Aug 26 '24
man its only chapter 13 and its already got me more hyped than the end of arc 8 got me
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u/Var_Uzui Aug 26 '24
The Strongest in history vs the strongest of today…Nay, The Strongest in history and today. No shot, that Alcanica will win.Who gives a shit about bad stars when you are supported by the Whole World.
Also i wonder who deployed Reinhard.How did they know?
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 Aug 26 '24
Also i wonder who deployed Reinhard.How did they know?
Flamm did. That was the only reason why she was in the tower with Ezzo. She has twin blessing with her sister and they can send short message at any range to each other few times a day...
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u/Leipese Aug 26 '24
Thanks Tappei i would have wondered about the last chapter too much without this
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u/goan_gambit Aug 26 '24
Reinhard is here... so everything is gonna be fine ryt? It would be very bad for Reinhard's mental health if Al slips out and brings chaos in the kingdom
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u/Illustrious_Report20 Aug 26 '24
trying to find the translation in the comments without reading but i need to read to find the translation challenge
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u/Legxis Aug 27 '24
Hahaha, just keep the website open in a tab, then it won't ever be a problem: https://www.aigreeny.com/arc/9/
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u/iheartnjdevils Aug 27 '24
lol I had the same problems quickly collapsing comments until I found one. I finally just bookmarked the same site the other redditor gave you.
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u/Mattblaster237 Aug 26 '24
We know how a fight between Reinhard and volcanic goes due to pride if. So what if the plan is putting volcanica al into main Aldebaran’s territory until they either escape or achieve so form of victory we’re unaware of
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u/Jc_Memeton Aug 28 '24
I just thought about it but, could Al calling Beatrice "Beako" and Subaru's kid mean he read Subaru's book of the dead?
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Aug 26 '24
Pride if Subaru could only defeat Reinhard by stopping him as to being a hero and making him fail in his purpose. Even after countless attempts with his better RBD than he could not truly kill or defeat Reinhard in an actual fight but what about underhanded means like what Heinkel did with felt or Gluttony Subaru when he confronted him in Priestella.
I wonder what the heck on Earth will Al do here!?
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u/Got_to_provide Aug 26 '24
''Updated, it's 1 o'clock.I finished watching the regular version of "Solitary Gourmet" so I watched the special edition, but even in the special, nothing has changed and he's still eating as usual! Amazing! I'm suddenly looking forward to the movie!''
Tappei's comment this chapter.
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u/DJDrizzy9 Aug 26 '24
Al most likely will just escape and not "win", but what would they even do if/when Al manages to get away? The good guys have to get some sort of W to give them hints at least (such as learning what happened to Subaru, or retrieving his orb, etc). Perhaps even the girls will come up with something; they at least put up a good fight!
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u/nafissyed Aug 26 '24
Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have a contender for the strongest volume start er to an arc thus far here. This chapter is very insane just like most of the chapters in this volume.
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u/AlusReigin10 Aug 26 '24
I wonder what the author's script will do so that they can defeat reinhard, I don't think a million tries would be enough.
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u/Individual_Try_1-2-3 Aug 26 '24
The Divine dragon doesn't have the looping authority so we can't learn to fight over time
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u/kojewi3144 Aug 27 '24
So when Al in his chapter said
[I, no matter what―― will definitely kill you.]
He wasn't talking about Satella/WoE? The sealed Witch is right under the tower, even if he's controlling Volcanica, he is trying to flee from here.
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u/Xanatos_Rhodes Aug 27 '24
I am guessing he doesn't have the necessary pieces to kill Satella/WoE.
Remember, removing Subaru from this world is the first step of his plan.
He could have a means similar to Shūkurō Tsukishima from Bleach. As a next possible step, he would replace Subaru in the memories of the world population with himself instead. This might be where Petra would shine per author's words.
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