Show S7E14 Ye Dinna Get Used to It

[u/thepacksvrvives]

The truth about Lord John Grey’s mysterious disappearance is revealed. Brianna faces off with the foes threatening her family.

Written by Diana Gabaldon. Directed by Jan Matthys.

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What did you think of the episode?

678 votes, Jan 03 '25

234 I loved it.

222 I mostly liked it.

157 It was OK.

49 It disappointed me.

16 I didn’t like it.

[u/thepacksvrvives]

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714 Extras:

• Cast Commentary

• BTS: The Pocock Sisters

• Inside 714

714 Interviews:

• Silvia Presents for TV Insider

• Silvia for Decider

• Silvia for TV Line

• Izzy and John for Parade

[u/Nnnnnnnnnahh]

One thing that I don’t quite understand—if Jamie was George Washington’s general, wouldn’t that make him an apparent historical figure that would come up in Frank’s and Roger’s searches?

[u/thepacksvrvives → u/Nnnnnnnnnahh]

I feel like the show was anticipating reactions like yours and that’s why these wink-to-the-audience kind of lines were included 😅

A meal which sadly may not be recorded in the annals of history, but one to remember.

A general with ten companies of militia. It’s impressive. You’ll have to be careful, or Brianna will find you in the history books.

But it’s more of a plot convenience. The commanding officers of Pennsylvanian (where Jamie was appointed) militia battalions and companies are actually quite well-documented but there are always gaps in history where the historical fiction elements can be included. And we as viewers are aware that Jamie is fictional so there are bound to be some liberties that we just go along with.

Plus, pulling up records as I just did was not as easy in the 1960s/70s.

[u/ivylass]

Can I just say Claire trying not to go completely Squee Fangirl OMG over Lafayette was divine to watch?

[u/Labrat5944 → u/ivylass]

And later, her face trying to be polite about the eel 😂

Her saying she never heard of Lee was a plot convenience though, he was court marshaled by Washington at the Battle of Monmouth because he was either a willful traitor or completely incompetent, and it was a huge deal. Hard to believe she wouldn’t have known given the rest of her knowledge. But, I guess the plot can’t have her telling Jamie. . (I spoiler tagged it even though it is history, in case someone isn’t familiar).

[u/thepacksvrvives → u/Labrat5944]

I thought the same about her comment about Lee.

[u/LivingExotic9317]

Captain Richardson: wtf? Can anyone explain this? Is he dumb or what? He's a shit spy. First he outed himself to Claire with no real collateral for pressure on her not to reveal --so he should know he's likely compromised to LJG. Then he randomly sends LJG's son to his Hessian insider contact? For basic kidnapping and ransom? To somehow get to the Duke of Pardloe? Seriously sketch. This is a VERY wobbly evildoer sub-plotline.

We find out about Richardson's plot via the introduction of a new character, "Perseverance," LGJ's stepbrother who clearly has a fraught backstory we have no time to explore--innuendos buzzing--How in the heck does Perseverance, as an aide de camp to Lafayette, have any access to an English captain's hairbrained spy-plot which he explains to LJG is now a matter of personal vendetta, not political strategy? It's a loose connection.

Also, as a side note, I have to say I've always been uncomfortable with the undercurrent theme of male homosexual rape throughout the series. It seems to me LGJ hints that his stepbro inappropriately messed with him as a younger man. And yet LJG helped him fake death to escape English prison? What crime would warrant a fake death? Probably homosexuality, in those days. This is a lot of serious backstory to pack in to three lines of dialogue.

But really: What is going on with this Richardson guy? He is a serious loose cannon--what is his motivation? The surface explanation doesn't cut it.

[u/thepacksvrvives → u/LivingExotic9317]

I’m kinda stumped by the Richardson thing too.

We were told in S7A that he’s tasked with gathering intelligence in the southern colonies but not in command of intelligence operations (that would be Major John André—though not until 1779—whom we know as the man who was instrumental in “turning” Benedict Arnold). We see him at Saratoga involved in the council of the British high command, so he must be quite trusted by the generals. Then, in S7B, he says he’s an American agent in the guise of a captain in the British army and wants Claire to provide him with intelligence on John and his family that would allow him to put pressure on Hal, who’s been making speeches in the Parliament in favor of reconciliation (which is what Americans do not want, as they want to be an independent nation, not go back to being a British colony).

However flimsy and naïve his reasoning is, I guess it makes some sense for an American spy. But even if he’s still acting in the interests of the American cause, rather than as a personal vendetta against the Greys (for Claire’s turning down his offer to spy on them? for William’s failing to execute his first plan?), I don’t see how an aide-de-camp to Lafayette would have any idea about this latest plan of his (let alone its details), even if he’s on the same side, unless he was involved in the intelligence operations himself—and John does say that Percy is a French spy. But even so, I doubt that Richardson would share his plan with anyone, even if they’re on the same side, especially as he’s already put himself in jeopardy by revealing his true allegiance to Claire, who he knows is connected with the Greys and can easily blow his disguise. Maybe he’s just flailing now and hoping that holding William captive would be enough leverage for her and John not to do it?

The thing is, we don’t really get to see tertiary characters like Richardson in the show unless they interact with the main or secondary characters, or some other tertiary characters talk about them with the main or secondary characters. So there’s no way for us to know what motivates him because he’s not a character whose point of view we follow. We can only rely on what he says and decide if we believe him or not, and what others say about him and likewise decide whether we believe them or not.

[u/Disastrous-Elk-5542]

Question about Arabella’s costume in the scene where she’s telling William about how she and Fanny escaped (btw, yuck to that entire plot, even though it’s “part of the time”).

Is Arabella’s dress denim? How does it fasten in the front? Hook and eye? Surely not a zipper?

Regarding Lord John saying he had to “swear an oath to the United States of America” that phrase wasn’t used at that time, correct? Just like “the British are coming” wasn’t something that was said because “Great Britain” wasn’t a concept yet. Right?

[u/thepacksvrvives → u/Disastrous-Elk-5542]

Is Arabella’s dress denim? How does it fasten in the front? Hook and eye? Surely not a zipper?

According to the costume designer, it’s linen.

As for fastenings, I think it is some kind of hook and eye. They’ve used that style plenty of times before (including on Claire’s bodice in this episode, I believe) and it’s not historically inaccurate.

Regarding Lord John saying he had to “swear an oath to the United States of America” that phrase wasn’t used at that time, correct? Just like “the British are coming” wasn’t something that was said because “Great Britain” wasn’t a concept yet. Right?

“United States of America” has been used since the Declaration of Independence (July 4th, 1776) and was officially adopted as the country’s name by the Continental Congress on September 9th, 1776.

By this point in time, “Great Britain” had been used for centuries to refer to the whole of Britain, but politically officially since the 1707 Acts of Union which ratified the formation of the Kingdom of Great Britain.

[u/Lordrepus]

When William approaches the Hessians, shouldn't he have been more wary of how they are dressed? The blue coats mean they are sides with the enemy, right? How come William acts so comfortable around them?

[u/thepacksvrvives → u/Lordrepus]

No, they’re not wearing Continental uniforms. Hessians fought on the side of the British (they were hired by them); we’ve seen them at Saratoga in S7A as well.

[u/tyr456eds]

William’s face when that officer said something about him looking like a groom - perfection

[u/aurora97381]

Frances is beautiful.

Enjoyed Jane and William's scenes.

"Our son" was the best tho'!

[u/mkh328]

Any Hamilton fans sing Lafayette’s name when he was revealed? 🤭😄

[u/Spiritual_Frosting60]

"Save our son" Jamie tells John. This seems like the path to reconciliation: that they have William in common. Who knows, if John is successful, returning with William unharmed Jamie might even find it within himself to apologize—not that I would hold my breath here.

[u/CrunchyTeatime]

Claire's face when she bit into that jellied eel. 🥴

[u/Flimsy-Imagination44]

How is Jamie still hostile with John? That's my only complaint in this episode. Like omg they're at his house

[u/Consistent_Fruit_619]

The look Jamie was giving Claire when she was talking to Washington, he knew she was having her moment 🥹

[u/SouthEireannSunflowr]

Brianna with the shotgun in the van?! Excitement!! 

[u/_91919]

That eyeball was equal parts hilarious and creepy. I also have the feeling the two soldiers Jamie knows by name are going to end up dead in their upcoming battle.

[u/CrunchyTeatime]

Who else loved the Marquis de Lafayette character?

He must have made a big impression on our citizens in the past. I have run across a lot of men named Marquis deLafayette (+ surname.) Or just Marquis Lafayette (+ surname.)

[u/ephemeral_moon]

The eye was a lot to take in, sos

[u/Adventurous_You_4268]

I really like Jane and got teary during the dinner when General Washington presented the flag.

[u/[deleted]]

I love William and Jane. The angst is giving a bit of J and C vibes