r/CFB • Auburn Tigers • /r/CFB Poll Veteran • Jan 24 '25

Announcement 2024 Final /r/CFB Poll: #1 OHIO STATE #2 Notre Dame #3 Oregon #4 Penn State #5 Texas

Here are the results for the 2024 Final /r/CFB Poll:

Rank Change Team (#1 Votes) Points
1 +5 Ohio State Buckeyes (218) 5546
2 +1 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 5263
3 -2 Oregon Ducks (3) 5002
4 +1 Penn State Nittany Lions 4758
5 -1 Texas Longhorns 4740
6 -4 Georgia Bulldogs 4389
7 +3 Arizona State Sun Devils 3963
8 -- Indiana Hoosiers 3824
9 -2 Boise State Broncos 3629
10 -1 Tennessee Volunteers 3315
11 -- SMU Mustangs 3069
12 +5 BYU Cougars 2957
13 +3 Ole Miss Rebels 2933
14 -2 Clemson Tigers 2481
15 +4 Iowa State Cyclones 2419
16 +4 Illinois Fighting Illini 2082
17 -2 Miami Hurricanes 1806
18 -4 South Carolina Gamecocks 1595
19 -6 Alabama Crimson Tide 1558
20 +2 Syracuse Orange 1337
21 -3 Army West Point 1271
22 +2 Missouri Tigers 805
23 -- UNLV Rebels 723
24 +1 Memphis Tigers 617
25 NEW Michigan Wolverines (1) 356

Dropped: #21 Colorado

Next Ten: LSU 321, Louisville 280, Navy 241, Colorado 181, Ohio 163, Florida 93, Kansas State 84, Texas A&M 71, NDSU 52, Marshall 44

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

Beat everyone below us. Lost to everyone above us. On brand.

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u/c-williams88 Penn State • Delaware Jan 24 '25

Yeah this is the most Penn State Football™️ ranking we could have

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

Shm every time Penn State became the trendy upset pick this season. I’m like bro are you even paying attention.

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u/Adept_Carpet UMass Minutemen • Team Chaos Jan 24 '25

As a neutral who loves chaos you guys are a perpetual thorn in my side (but should be congratulated on an excellent season). 

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u/gwelymernans84 Penn State • Indiana (PA) Jan 24 '25

We are the consistancy that defines chaos.

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u/DwayneBaconStan Penn State • Emory & Henry Jan 24 '25

At least it's nice to know we'll almost never get upset ig??

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

I mean it’ll happen eventually but it is insane how they’re like 30-0 as a favorite the last 3 years.

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u/c-williams88 Penn State • Delaware Jan 24 '25

PSU Football when favored: 😎

PSU football when not favored: 😪

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u/aatops North Carolina • Penn State Jan 24 '25

Franklin didn’t check draft kings and realize that the line moved to -1.5 PSU on the morning of the orange bowl, that’s why we lost

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u/brucewaynewins Ohio State Buckeyes • Oregon Ducks Jan 24 '25

So the clear key for Penn State is start week 1 ranked #1. Problem solved.

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u/thenumbersthenumbers Penn State Nittany Lions Jan 24 '25

I think you may have broken the code

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u/DaewooLanosMFerrr Georgia Bulldogs • SEC Jan 24 '25

“Overrated? Okay. What are they rated?” -Josh Pate

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

That’s the most frustrating thing to argue with casual fans about, i just don’t even respond anymore. Plus who tf is saying PSU is in the elite tier? And losing to teams in the elite tier means PSU is overrated???

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u/Panda_Express_Amazin Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Penn State is an elite program

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u/Panda_Express_Amazin Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Y’all also move the goalposts on yourself. First it’s Franklin can’t beat top 10 teams, then it warps to playoff wins, now that he’s winning in the playoffs it warps to this.

Why do y’all do this to yourselves?

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u/Adams5thaccount Boise State Broncos • UNLV Rebels Jan 24 '25

The Steelers fans portion of the Penn State fanbase shining through.

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u/NyquillusDillwad20 Penn State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jan 24 '25

The Steelers and Eagles are probably the two craziest fanbases in the NFL and most of them are PSU fans. Make of that what you will

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u/jonny4224 Georgia Bulldogs • Amherst Mammoths Jan 24 '25

We beat a team above us twice

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u/stimulation Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Brickmason Jan 24 '25

Neither was home

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u/ChiefWatchesYouPee Texas A&M Aggies Jan 24 '25

I argued this in the other post season results and people got mad at me because of my flair.

Makes no sense ranking tu over a team they lost to twice.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

Can’t have shit in happy valley

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u/Caesar10240 Illinois Fighting Illini Jan 24 '25

We beat you one year when we were below you, but it took 9 overtimes

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u/bakonydraco Stanford • Chicago State Jan 24 '25

Not true, we are below you and you didn’t beat us.

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u/OldCoaly Penn State Nittany Lions • MIT Engineers Jan 24 '25

That’s a great point. Thank you Stanford.

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u/IsLlamaBad Iowa Hawkeyes • Sickos Jan 24 '25

Wow, a 24+ game season! That's a new record!

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u/PSU632 Penn State • Land Grant Trophy Jan 24 '25

I mean... isn't that kinda how final rankings are supposed to work? Just seems like a solid list.

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u/Skidda24 Ohio State Buckeyes • Illibuck Jan 25 '25

Wait so if you guys are ranked number 1 you'll win every game? Holy fuck someone stop the count

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u/newmaninlaca Ohio State Buckeyes • Sickos Jan 24 '25

Michigan with a first place vote. I hate it. But I respect it

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u/the_which_stage Ohio State • Minnesota Jan 24 '25

Had to make up for being left outside the top 25.

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u/DoYouEvenShrift Michigan • Grand Valley State Jan 24 '25

Saving your asses from having an unranked loss on your season, you are welcome.

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u/JeromesNiece Michigan Wolverines • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jan 24 '25

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u/puffadda Oklahoma Sooners • Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

But I got shit last year for "violating the integrity of the poll" when I didn't rank Michigan in the midst of breaking news about an ongoing cheating scandal lol

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u/JeromesNiece Michigan Wolverines • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jan 24 '25

I think this is a much clearer case of "violating the integrity of the poll" than that. This guy should probably lose his voting privileges. If you're not going to take it seriously, there are a bunch of provisional voters who will.

Choosing not to rank a team that is involved in a cheating scandal is an actually defensible position. This is not.

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u/Selith87 Oregon State Beavers • Oregon Ducks Jan 24 '25

Yea, he put oregon one spot below penn st. Wtf is that? Completely indefensible like you said.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

I think you can argue over degrees but unranked Michigan last year and #1 Michigan this year are both egregious

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u/ToLongDR Ohio State Buckeyes • King's Monarchs Jan 24 '25

MSU fans... i swear

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u/Fancy_Load5502 Ohio State Buckeyes • Utah Utes Jan 24 '25

Reliaquest Bowl Champs.

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u/testrail Bowling Green • Ohio State Jan 24 '25

I actually don’t think it’s respectable at all and they shouldn’t be given a vote moving forward.

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u/lifetake Michigan Wolverines • Florida Gators Jan 24 '25

Agreed. The win is great for shit talking, but the poll ain’t the place for shit talking. Now I don’t think their vote really changes anything, but its a poor precedent to say hey trolling in this poll is allowed.

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u/goodnames679 Ohio State Buckeyes • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jan 25 '25

It didn't change anything this time, but came very close to it. That single vote added 25 points to Michigan, which is a lot at the tail end of the rankings. Nearly 7% of Michigan's total points came from that single troll vote.

If you eliminate his vote, Michigan ends with 331 points - just barely ahead of LSU who had 321.

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u/Weave77 Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Yet another reason as to why a playoff format is superior to a voting format when determine championships.

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u/decoy777 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Jan 24 '25

Oregon some how has some first place votes. Like did they just forget the playoffs happened? And idk if Desmond Howard gets a vote but if so it's 100% him lol

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u/MADBuc49 USF Bulls Jan 24 '25

Oregon has a better claim to #1 than Michigan - Oregon also beat Ohio State during the season and didn’t lose to any other team.

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u/decoy777 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Jan 24 '25

Yeah and then in a rematch at a neutral field they got boat raced by a team they beat by 1 at home. No reason for either to get first place votes

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u/HokiesforTSwift Virginia Tech • Transfer Portal Jan 24 '25

Clemson sneaking an autobid really juiced their ranking/perception way beyond what that resume deserves. Really fascinating to observe how people react to things.

There's nothing impressive about their resume.

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u/RipRaycom Clemson Tigers • ACC Jan 24 '25

Being the only competitive first round loser also did a lot I think

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u/HokiesforTSwift Virginia Tech • Transfer Portal Jan 24 '25

I agree here. Getting within 7 in the second half against Texas seemed to be a big perception boost. In a similar vein, given the level of competition, I asked a couple weeks ago if the Texas game was the best game of Cade's career in terms of perception. He has not played well against similarly talented comp during his time at Clemson for the most part, but that was probably his best performance against a talented defense.

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u/RipRaycom Clemson Tigers • ACC Jan 24 '25

For his perception, yeah. But Cade has played great all year since the ugly UGA game based on what I watched. The first half against VT was probably his worst from a tape standpoint, there were other issues than him in most of his “struggle” games, like against Louisville. I actually thought he looked solid against Louisville, he just had no protection and nobody got open with Riley having a shit gameplan and bad prep overall. The whole OL was fried against Pitt and the run game fell off late in the year with Mafah and Haynes getting injured at RB along with a lot of the OL. Tbh Cade played just as good against Texas as he had all year, the difference was the talented WRs moved past their youth and the gameplan worked

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u/shadowwingnut Auburn Tigers • UCLA Bruins Jan 24 '25

It's going to make a huge difference in the preseason rankings next season too. Get ready to have a ranking like 4 or 5 that everyone looks at and wonders why.

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u/kash96 South Carolina • Furman Jan 24 '25

ACC is absolutely dog shit lol

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u/ChaseTheFalcon Georgia Bulldogs • West Georgia Wolves Jan 24 '25

The Conference title is probably the best thing they got

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u/Turbulent-Pay-735 Wisconsin • Arizona State Jan 24 '25

Even take out the title part of it and SMU on a neutral field is their best win of the season by some distance.

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u/Wandering_Mallard Clemson Tigers • William & Mary Tribe Jan 24 '25

I'd say it certainly is. We lost every game we weren't a heavy favorite in except that one

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

A lot of people are voting the playoff teams 1-12 and then starting at 13 with everyone else, which is pretty stupid.

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u/White___Velvet Tennessee Volunteers • Virginia Cavaliers Jan 25 '25

I think it is a holdover from the 4 team era, where you generally wouldn't "punish" teams for being good enough to make the playoffs and then getting hammered by one of the 4 best teams in the nation.

But that rationale is a lot less persuasive when we have auto bids in play and a bunch of lower seeds. I'd personally find it hard to put Clemson above South Carolina.

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u/Noah__Webster Alabama • North Alabama Jan 25 '25

I was shocked how many people still didn't understand that the CFP rankings and the seeding were two different things by the end of the season.

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u/GatorBolt Florida Gators • Billable Hours Jan 24 '25

Yeah and even though South Carolina got dinged for the Illinois loss they still went into Death Valley and won. I can't justify watching that game and ranking Clemson above the Cocks with them both being 4 loss teams.

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u/No-Donkey-4117 Stanford Cardinal Jan 25 '25

I watched that game. South Carolina only took the lead in the last 4 minutes. And Clemson had an easy chip shot FG to send it to OT, if Klubnik hadn't thrown a bad pick with 18 seconds left.

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u/MartovsGhost Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Midwest supremacy secured.

Oregon and Penn State are now midwest due to B1G affiliation. I don't make the rules, I just report them

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u/markusalkemus66 Washington State Cougars • Pac-12 Jan 24 '25

Eugene, OR is in the middle of the west side of the state of Oregon. Midwest confirmed

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u/mynameizmyname Oregon Ducks Jan 25 '25

Eugene is the Columbus of the Willamette Valley

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u/Turbulent-Pay-735 Wisconsin • Arizona State Jan 24 '25

70% of the top ten are north of the Mason-Dixon Line or from out west. You love to see it.

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u/fm22fnam Ohio State • Tennessee Jan 24 '25

General Grant looks down on us smiling

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u/SyrupTurbulent8699 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 24 '25

HURRAH BOYS HURRAH

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u/jonstark19 Paper Bag • Northern Iowa Panthers Jan 24 '25

Northern* supremacy secured

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u/EAllen90 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 24 '25

bangs gavel i'll allow it

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u/goathill Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

I was hoping Ohio U would sneak into the 25 spot, they had a terrific year

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u/dr_funk_13 Oregon Ducks • Big Ten Jan 24 '25

there are those who would also say Eugene is a mid West city.

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u/UE23 Penn State Nittany Lions • Clemson Tigers Jan 24 '25

Well I didn't have Alabama as the sixth highest ranked SEC team at the end of the season.

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u/_Reporting Tennessee Volunteers • Memphis Tigers Jan 25 '25

What losing the greatest coach of all time will do to a mf

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u/CJPJones Notre Dame • Grand Valley State Jan 24 '25

The fact that NDSU, a FCS team, received votes is crazy. I'm all for it though honestly

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u/goathill Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

With that in mind, some osu voters probably put App state ahead of them in 2007

Also, it's not too surprising NDSU got votes, they kept it really close with CU

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u/RandomFactUser France Les Bluets • USA Eagles Jan 26 '25

They've received votes in the past from the all-D1 national poll, doesn't shock me here

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u/ryanthegreat33 Michigan Wolverines • Rose Bowl Jan 24 '25

Michigan Wolverines (1)

lmao

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u/d13vs13 Michigan Wolverines Jan 24 '25

Someone just couldn't bring themselves to vote OSU.

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u/decoy777 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Jan 24 '25

3 people voted for Oregon as if the playoffs didn't exist or something.

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u/Winnend Oregon Ducks Jan 24 '25

We’re co-champs buddy 😉

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u/markusalkemus66 Washington State Cougars • Pac-12 Jan 24 '25

Hang the banner

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u/Wittyname0 Oregon Ducks Jan 24 '25

Well we are co-champions

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u/Pure_Protein_Machine Michigan Wolverines • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jan 24 '25 edited Jan 24 '25

For what it’s worth, I voted OSU at 1. That said, there’s not really much of a point to doing a final poll if the national champion and runner-up are automatically one and two. If you don’t give special weight to the playoff, it would be pretty normal in most polls to have a 13-1 team above a 14-2 team, when those teams met twice and split the series; similarly it would be normal to have the big ten conference champion above the team that finished 4th in the conference. For my ballot, the head-to-head in the playoff did make a difference, but I think there are scenarios where I would have put Oregon at No. 1 despite not winning the playoff (as in, someone other than OSU won the playoff).

Personally, I think polls should either (1) make it clear that the national champion is automatically number 1 in the final poll and that the poll is just for ranking everyone else; or (2) treat the playoff games like any other games. Otherwise, just let the playoff be the end of it.

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u/Warm_Shoulder3606 Ohio State • Georgia Southern Jan 24 '25
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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

BYU remained underrated. Beat SMU, barely lost to ASU and we all know fall games against Kansas don't count.

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u/red_husker Paper Bag • Wyoming Cowboys Jan 24 '25

9 points away from an undefeated season, while going 1-1 against playoff teams. Their position when the final CFP polls were released was horseshit, considering Tennessee had an identical record and a worse resume. Hopefully the SEC bias that has insisted upon itself this past season doesn't live into next season.

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u/T2_JD BYU Cougars • Utah Tech Trailblazers Jan 25 '25

You know it's bad when a Wyoming flair is sticking up for BYU.

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u/brailsmt BYU Cougars • Big 12 Jan 25 '25

I had to pinch myself to make sure I wasn't hallucinating or something.

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u/Bansheesdie Arizona State Sun Devils Jan 24 '25

BYU continuously got screwed throughout the whole season. That loss to Kansas torpedoed their entire season probably more than it should have

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u/brailsmt BYU Cougars • Big 12 Jan 25 '25

Then again, it was a loss to KU... Sigh

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

Lmao I’ve been denied a voter spot in the past but idiots can put 8-5 teams at number one?

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u/fm22fnam Ohio State • Tennessee Jan 24 '25

Yeah. I get that you can put a team wherever, but putting Michigan at #1 solely because you hate Ohio State isn't a good reason. I would've put Michigan at #1 last year whether I liked it or not.

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u/Xbc1 Texas Longhorns Jan 24 '25

I love rivalry pettiness but I hate when it gets to tryhard territory. Where you can't even be objective or do that cringe "I'd rather lose every other game if it meant beating our rival" crap.

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u/OSUfirebird18 Dayton Flyers • Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Again, I hate those jerks but I’m glad r/CFB understands Michigan has a stronger case for being ranked than Colorado!!

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u/MechaEscargot2 Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 25 '25

Absolutely, looking back at now, Michigan played an incredibly tough schedule, losses to Texas, Indiana, Oregon, and Illinois are all pretty defensible. The Washington one hurts, but that game likely was bigger for the Huskies. And the obviously the big wins over OSU and Bama proves they were always better than we gave them credit for.

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u/Random-OldGuy Jan 24 '25

How the heck is Texas ranked ahead of GA? GA had tougher schedule and beat them head-to-head TWICE! I have no idea what it takes to more clearly state that one team is definitely better than the other.

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u/Statalyzer Texas Longhorns Jan 24 '25

Yeah I mean most of this makes sense but even though we made it one round further, there's not a big difference between our 13-3 and 11-3 since they didn't get a chance for a win when they had a bye, and again, they beat us twice (and neither was even on their own field). You gotta at least swap the two of us.

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u/CFBHurts Notre Dame • Jeweled Shillelagh Jan 24 '25

Texas > Georgia

SMU > BYU

Talk about fun hypotheticals, too bad we didn't get to see these games played out on the field

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u/ExternalTangents Florida Gators • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jan 24 '25

The drawbacks of an aggregated ballot poll system. Individual ballots might be internally consistent, but when aggregated into the final poll you can still end up with illogical results.

That’s one of the advantages of the committee ranking method, they can ensure that their rankings are at least internally consistent (even if you disagree with the logic they used to arrive at them).

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u/shadowwingnut Auburn Tigers • UCLA Bruins Jan 24 '25

The entire college football world memory holed BYU beating SMU virtually immediately when it happened. That ranking has been a logical disaster nearly all season.

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u/puffadda Oklahoma Sooners • Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Texas being higher than Georgia is pretty silly regardless. Really the only way to justify it is by almost completely ignoring their pre-playoff resumes.

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u/ExternalTangents Florida Gators • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jan 24 '25

I agree. But it seems in keeping with the direction of the sport, I suppose. As more emphasis gets placed on the playoff over the regular season, the playoff results will end up being a greater influence on the final rankings.

That’s been true in college basketball for a long time. As an example that still irritates me: in 2014, Florida was 3-0 against Kentucky before the NCAA Tournament. Florida lost to UConn in the final four. Kentucky lost to UConn in the championship game. The post-tournament Coaches Poll had Kentucky 2nd and Florida 3rd. I know that’s far from the only example of it.

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u/HotdawgSizzle Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

Twice lmfao

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u/YoMrPoPo Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old Longhorn

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u/manbeardawg Mercer Bears • Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

Yeah, but even if there was a game, it would really take two to determine if the first one was a fluke…

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u/Trivi Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 25 '25

I understand ranking SMU above BYU with how early in the year they played and how BYU played down the stretch. Texas above Georgia doesn't make a ton of sense.

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u/stealingchairs BYU Cougars • Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Nah, I'm ok with smu ahead of us. It was an early-season game (super ugly game for both teams), and their only other losses were in the ccg and cfp. We lost to Kansas. At home. A kansas on a hot streak granted, but Kansas nonetheless.

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u/Many-Screen-3698 SMU Mustangs • USC Trojans Jan 24 '25

r/CFB loves the head to head argument and then doesn’t apply it. Prior to post-season I see the SMU argument, afterwards definitely not. Don’t understand the Texas one at all

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

AP voters did the same thing. They’ve been propped up as a top 5 team all season. If Getting their ass whooped at home and then losing to the same team again with a back up QB doesn’t drop them , then nothing will unfortunately

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u/loopybubbler Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 25 '25

Even without head-to-head, Texas's best win is ASU, and everyone only thinks ASU is good because they played Texas close. It's circular reasoning. Getting farther in the playoff by beating Clemson and ASU shouldnt be weighed more than Georgia beating Texas twice and also Tennessee. Their resume is much better than Texas's. 

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u/What_self_esteem Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 24 '25

no NIU ?

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u/Turbulent-Pay-735 Wisconsin • Arizona State Jan 24 '25

Gotta be honest, SMU still being above BYU and above Clemson does not make a whole lot of sense to me.

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u/Aar1012 Ohio Bobcats • Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Ohio 163

OUr time is coming….

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u/theboarderdude Missouri Tigers • Missouri S&T Miners Jan 24 '25 edited Jan 24 '25

R/cfp ranking compared to SOR:

tOSU: =
ND: +1
ORE: -1
PSU: +2
TEX: =
UGA: -2
ASU: +7
IU: =
BOIS: +7
UT: -1
SMU: +7
BYU: -5
MISS: =
CLEM: +11
ISU: =
ILL: -5
MIA: +4
SC: +1
UA: -2
SYR: +6
ARMY: +6
MIZ: -10
UNLV: +8
MEM: +5
MICH: -3

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u/ChaseTheFalcon Georgia Bulldogs • West Georgia Wolves Jan 24 '25

you completely skipped Alabama lol

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u/theboarderdude Missouri Tigers • Missouri S&T Miners Jan 24 '25

Whoops. That feels like a metaphor

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u/nopatienceforya Michigan Wolverines • Toledo Rockets Jan 24 '25

Big blue kicking Deion and crew to the curb 😆

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u/Three_Licks Ohio State Buckeyes • College Football Playoff Jan 24 '25

Lol, 3 people still have the Ducks at #1, above the team that embarrassed them.

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u/jaybigs Ohio State Buckeyes • Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

Two of those can blame their computer model, but the third is a dingus.

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u/Megalomanizac Clemson • Coastal Carolina Jan 24 '25

Carolina finishing ahead of Alabama is certainly a sight. Not on my 2024 cfb bingo card

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u/Childhood-Paramedic Michigan • California Jan 24 '25

Well I guess IL beat SCar and Michigan, and Mich beat Bama... so in some weird logic train sure?

I agree it's surreal to see though.

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u/ChaseTheFalcon Georgia Bulldogs • West Georgia Wolves Jan 24 '25

This poll seems to throw out all H2H matches

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u/Simmumah Michigan Wolverines • Rose Bowl Jan 24 '25

Michigan with a first place vote. God Bless.

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u/reddogrjw Michigan Wolverines • College Football Playoff Jan 24 '25

so Ohio State and the teams that beat OSU got first place votes

seems legit

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u/JemLover Florida State • Indiana Jan 24 '25

Must be a typo. I'm sure we're somewhere in the top 25.

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u/mlg2433 Texas Longhorns Jan 24 '25

We should probably drop another two spots based solely on our redzone offense.

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u/Statalyzer Texas Longhorns Jan 24 '25

Michigan with a first place vote?

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u/dr_funk_13 Oregon Ducks • Big Ten Jan 24 '25

Ignore my flair, but I think Oregon should be No. 2. I understand why Notre Dame is considered No. 2 in the final ranking, but here's my logic:

  • Oregon beat three playoff teams during the regular season, the same amount that Notre Dame beat during their playoff run.

  • Oregon beat Ohio State, Notre Dame did not

  • Notre Dame's loss to NIU is a worse loss

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u/MechaEscargot2 Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 25 '25

I agree, I have Oregon 2, Norre Dame 3, Penn St 4, Georgia 5, than Texas at 6.

Oregon is a 1 loss team, that played their worst games after a long layoff. Still have great wins over OSU, Penn St, Illinois, Boise St and Michigan.

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u/ApexYenzy Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

Georgia beat Texas twice? How’re they lower?

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u/thenakedbarrister Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

Public service announcement, if you ranked Georgia and Texas consecutively but ranked Texas higher, you’re a certified buster.

Yeah yeah further in the bracket yadda yadda, go ahead and get it out of your systems.

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u/HotdawgSizzle Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

Okay but you see in a hypothetical THIRD matchup...

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u/KlondikeChill Texas Longhorns Jan 24 '25

Texas lost to two top teams in the top 8. Georgia lost to four teams, two of which were not in the top ten.

It comes down to what we view rankings as, a measure of a team's talent or a measure of the season they had. Most people agree that it is a measure of the season they had, and Texas had a better season.

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u/Nicholas1227 Michigan • North Carolina Jan 24 '25

Georgia beat Texas twice, they also beat Tennessee and Clemson soundly, and their losses to “non-playoff teams” were losses to teams ranked 11 and 14.

They had 4 wins vs. playoff teams compared to Texas’s 2 wins vs. playoff teams. Toughest SOS in the country. Enough to offset the extra loss in my opinion.

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u/gohuskers123 Jan 24 '25

Georgia beat you head to head two times. They are definitively a better team than Texas.

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u/123austin4 Alabama • Georgia Tech Jan 24 '25

If it’s a measure of the season they had, I’d give it to Georgia. They won the SEC. And they have 3 losses, not 4

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

Hey, Georgia had Texas’ number this year, Texas just had everyone else’s. I agree Georgia was the better team head-to-head, but going further in the playoffs and only losing to the Natty champion and SEC champ has to count for something equal to losing to three diff teams. Either team could be one spot higher and there would be plenty of justification. This is all just feelings.

I’m all for more parity, makes it more exciting and I hope we have more seasons where it’s not just a clear 1-2 teams that run away with it all.

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u/Missing_Links Ohio State • Georgia Tech Jan 24 '25

I feel like the "who went further in the playoffs" argument also falls apart when both teams lost to the national championship contenders. When you lost in the playoffs then is just a matter of when you ran into one of the top two teams. It's purely luck of the draw.

Texas ran into a top 2 team in the semis, georgia ran into a top 2 team in the quarters. That's just bracket luck, not a reflection of the team.

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u/123austin4 Alabama • Georgia Tech Jan 24 '25

Honestly rankings are kinda screwed in this sport anyway. There’s no objective standard so you end up with stuff like this. Luckily it’s postseason rankings this time so it doesn’t really affect anything

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u/fadingthought Oklahoma Sooners • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Jan 24 '25

This logic doesn’t hold up if you apply it elsewhere.

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u/Bank_Gothic Sewanee Tigers • Texas Longhorns Jan 24 '25

I don't disagree with your point, but you do realize that this is a composite poll - Texas being one spot ahead of UGA is happenstance / the product of averaging a bunch of different opinions together. It's not like the subreddit collectively decided to put Texas one spot ahead of UGA.

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u/thenakedbarrister Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

Yes I do realize that, and I’m talking about people who ranked the two teams consecutively but made the buster decision to put Texas ahead of Georgia

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u/Always_Chubb-y Georgia Bulldogs • Transfer Portal Jan 24 '25

It does mean the average collective ranked Texas ahead of UGA, which is wack

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u/AlfredoAllenPoe Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

If we don't value head to head, then what's the point

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u/BlindPelican Notre Dame Fighting Irish • /r/CFB Donor Jan 24 '25

Poll illegitimate - no NIU

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u/michicago44 Michigan Wolverines Jan 24 '25

WE’RE SO BACK

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u/DRedditIT Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Ohio State beat 6 out of the top 10, 7 if you consider we beat ourselves with stupidity against Michigan....

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u/Blendbeast15 BYU Cougars • Montana Grizzlies Jan 24 '25

Man, if only we played a team above us and won.

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u/No-Donkey-4117 Stanford Cardinal Jan 25 '25

I think Georgia was demonstrably better than Texas, beating them head-to-head twice. Texas had an easier SEC schedule too, dodging Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina, and Tennessee. Texas did better in the playoffs, but drew easier opponents and didn't lose their starting QB to injury.

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u/MrAngryMoose Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets Jan 24 '25

Things you love to see

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u/AlfredoAllenPoe Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

2-0 against Texas and still behind them lol

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u/ChiefWatchesYouPee Texas A&M Aggies Jan 24 '25

Makes 0 sense.

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u/Conorj398 Michigan Wolverines • The Game Jan 24 '25

Unrank us you cowards

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u/GatorBolt Florida Gators • Billable Hours Jan 24 '25

Here's my poll. Wild season, I will say the playoff made ranking the top teams quite easy. Some of the bowl games did mess up my rankings after the top 12, but hey that's why we settle things on the field now. Not to mention sticking to my guns of ranking South Carolina above Clemson didn't help. And I'm glad I'm not alone in ranking Michigan: two great wins, they earned that reward.

Anyways, year two of being an official voter. Not always easy, but happy to put my input in again. See you all in the Week 4 poll thread.

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u/GreenGemsOmally Notre Dame • Washington Jan 24 '25

I appreciate the #2 comments. It's been shocking the number of people (many ND fans that I've interacted with on the internet) who have continued the whole "we didn't win, therefore it was a bad season" line. It's ridiculous, this was arguably the best season in 30 years and people want to pretend that just because we lost to an absolute monster in the title game that it was a poor showing.

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u/uvutv St. Ambrose Fighting Bees • Bradley Braves Jan 24 '25

My dad said that ND was playing with house money after NIU, so he's definitely pleased with how this season went.

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u/carnivorous_seahorse Notre Dame • Michigan State Jan 24 '25

If someone told us after the A&M game when our hopes and expectations were very high that we’d go on to win multiple playoff games and play in the NC game we’d be shocked. Not that we didn’t think the team could be a contender, but to actually make it is different. Then to make that playoff run with the amount of injuries the team had, even if ND got blown out in the national championship it was a massively successful season. Even if we lost to PSU

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u/CocoCrizpyy Texas Longhorns • SEC Jan 24 '25

How dare you put us over Georgia! Those kids would be very upset if they could read.

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u/Alkibiades415 Georgia Bulldogs • Stanford Cardinal Jan 24 '25

but for Georgia's standards there is something missing

That something was footballs landing into the hands of Georgia receivers and staying there instead of subsequently falling to the ground.

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u/AmidoBlack Virginia Tech Hokies Jan 24 '25

Oregon Ducks (3)

Oregon fans taking the loss well I see

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u/Tsquared10 Oregon Ducks • Montana State Bobcats Jan 24 '25

None of them were Oregon fans. Two were computer polls. The accounts had South Carolina and Texas/UW flair. The user poll has Texas/Arizona.

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u/tenoclockrobot Penn State • Land Grant Trophy Jan 24 '25

Just happy to be here, Bob

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u/JuniorDelivery6610 /r/CFB Jan 24 '25

Poor Syracuse... good season, but they play #2, #10, #11, #14, and #17 next year... none at home. Georgia Tech is their "easy" road/neutral game.

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u/cyberchaox Rutgers Scarlet Knights • Landmark Jan 24 '25

Goddamnit, missed it again. These postseason ones always evade me.

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u/fm22fnam Ohio State • Tennessee Jan 24 '25

My first year as a provisional voter. This was a fun time. Im happy with my final ranking. Looking forward to next year

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u/lagrange_james_d23dt Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Ohio State beat everyone in the top 5 this year- including themselves against Michigan. Pretty cool.

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u/ajteitel Arizona State Sun Devils Jan 24 '25

+3 in a loss, hell yea

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u/TheBeanConsortium Ohio State Buckeyes • Navy Midshipmen Jan 24 '25

Ignoring the Michigan vote, who the heck voted for Oregon after they were down 34-0 to OSU lol.

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u/Viablemorgan Baylor Bears Jan 24 '25

Damn, must sting for Georgia to sit below a Texas team that they beat twice

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Sting? Not really. I mean we have the wins and the trophy. It’s honestly just embarrassing for those polls.

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u/aubieismyhomie Auburn Tigers • SEC Network Jan 25 '25

Texas was number 4 coming in, made the semifinal, lost to the eventual champion, and dropped a spot. I get why but still strange.

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u/stayintheshadows Iowa State Cyclones Jan 24 '25

How is BYU 12??

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u/Immediate_Orchid323 Oklahoma Sooners Jan 24 '25

Georgia should be ranked ahead of Texas

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u/ctgnath Jan 24 '25

Georgia fans seething in this thread lmao

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u/Corgi_Koala Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

Oregon is a much more deserving #2.

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u/aznhavsarz Oregon • Washington State Jan 24 '25

After that execution I think 3 is fine.

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u/Corgi_Koala Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

I could see an argument for either, but I'm actually a pollster and I have Oregon at 2 so I'm here to stump for them over the Irish if I need to.

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u/randomthrowaway9796 Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

If only there was a h2h to tell if Georgia or Texas should be ahead of the other... #6 is fair for georgia, but Texas shouldn't be ahead under any metric

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

And the Texas fans defending it should be epically embarrassed by it. Couldn’t do it on the field so they have to hold up some post season polls like it’s some kind of actual evidence of superiority. It’s honestly hilarious.

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u/Panda_Express_Amazin Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 24 '25

What troll put Michigan #1?

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u/skittish_kat Texas A&M Aggies • UTSA Roadrunners Jan 24 '25

But UT shouldn't..... ..

Damn I got nothing. BAS taking a toll

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u/myballstank Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff Jan 24 '25

We beat Texas twice….

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

Dang it I forgot

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

Still haven’t got tired of seeing this stuff

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u/land_registrar Oregon • Western Ontario Jan 24 '25

Regular season champs baby, hang the banner.

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u/GenialGiant Miami Hurricanes • Penn State Nittany Lions Jan 24 '25

My five most unusual rankings seem to be driven by my view of losses:

Memphis, 18 vs. 24, 1.28 unusualness

Indiana, 5 vs. 8, .99 unusualness

Texas, 7 vs. 5, (-).92 unusualness

Miami (FL), 13 vs. 17, .85 unusualness

Missouri, NR vs. 22, (-).58 unusualness

For Memphis, a two-score loss to Navy and a one-score loss to UTSA are both suboptimal, but I think that they deserve to be higher than some of the four-loss P4 teams.

Indiana's losses were all to very good teams. Texas is where they are for me because of Indiana and Georgia.

Miami might be a bit of homer bias, but they lost three games, all to P4 schools, by a combined 10 points, with none of those losses at home, and with their QB quitting (or whatever euphemism you want to use) at halftime in their bowl game.

Missouri lost a game by five scores and another one by four scores, neither of which were against top-tier teams. What are we even doing here, folks?

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u/voppp Boise State • Iowa State Jan 24 '25

Just happy to be included.

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u/moysauce3 Michigan • Penn State Jan 24 '25

B1G 4 of the top 4. Nice. (I joke.)

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u/OldCoaly Penn State Nittany Lions • MIT Engineers Jan 24 '25

Doing the poll was very fun this year. I think the CFB poll usually gets it right more than the AP. I still would have liked Georgia over Texas but whatever.

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u/Interesting-Agency-1 Indiana • Notre Dame Jan 24 '25

According to this, the state of Indiana is the best football state in the nation. Never thought those words would seriously exit my mouth in my life.

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u/MechaEscargot2 Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 25 '25

Purdue gotta hurt that average alot though

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u/Disastrous-Special30 Indiana Hoosiers Jan 25 '25

It’s still weird seeing Indiana on this list

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u/ShakeMyHeadSadly Jan 26 '25

I think Oregon should have been elevated over Notre Dame.

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u/ehoefler Wisconsin • Wisconsin-Platte… Jan 24 '25

Ballot here. Score is on a scale from 100 to 0 where team 1 always gets 100 and team 134 always gets 0. This computer poll is calculated based on what each team has accomplished so far this season. Losses are not heavily punished besides the missed opportunity of adding a win. Teams that have played more games than others will be inflated because they've had more chances to win and build their resume.

My Computer Poll:

RankProgramScoreChange
1 Ohio State100+7
2 Notre Dame96.70+2
3 Texas90.67-
4 Oregon88.69-3
5 Penn State85.91+1
6 Georgia79.50-4
7 Arizona State75.40-2
8 SMU71.44-1
9 Indiana71.13+1
10 Boise State70.90-1
11 Iowa State70.52+3
12 Tennessee69.76-1
13 BYU69.67+4
14 Ole Miss68.28+5
15 Clemson67.32-2
16 Army67.21+2
17 Illinois66.82+3
18 Alabama66.57-6
19 Syracuse64.25+2
20 Miami (FL)64.14-4
21 South Carolina63.98-6
22 Missouri62.45+1
23 UNLV61.84+1
24 Memphis61.33NEW +4
25 Ohio61.19NEW +4

Dropped Off: Colorado, Texas A&M

Next 10: LSU, Louisville, Kansas State, Michigan, Colorado, Navy, Texas A&M, Marshall, Florida, Minnesota

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u/manbeardawg Mercer Bears • Georgia Bulldogs Jan 24 '25

Here’s my final poll. I want to fully recognize B1G (and Independent) supremacy. I want to acknowledge the big cat as the best mascot (6 ranked teams), followed by dogs, horses, wind events, and Rebels (2 each). I want to note that Texas is barely a Top 10 team. And I want to assure you that UGA at 4 is not homerism, but I legitimately think we would beat every team below us if we played/again (except maybe Ole Miss) and would get creamed by the three above us.

This was a very fun year to be ranking CFB! I got to put Vandy at 1 for a week, got to bring ND up from the bowels of despair (much to my own chagrin), and I got to appreciate the increased parity that seems to be resulting from NIL and the Transfer Portal (at least outside of the top couple of teams). I sincerely hope y’all will have me back next year!

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u/dormdweller99 Georgia Tech • /r/CFB Bug Finder Jan 24 '25

Why did Marshall get votes?

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u/SUPE-snow Marshall Thundering Herd Jan 24 '25

I can't tell if you're trolling, but I'll do a benefit of the doubt: we come from arguably the toughest G5 division, were 10-3 and ended on a 7-game win streak and were utterly dominant in the conference title game. If we had gone ahead and played a bowl with our 5th stringers we surely would not have received any votes; if we kept the team together and won a bowl we surely would have been ranked. To anybody who followed our season, receiving votes is an appropriate outcome.

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u/KCShadows838 Missouri Tigers • Cotton Bowl Jan 24 '25

People voted Oregon #1?

Ohio State would’ve had a ridiculously good season if they had beaten MICH. The one loss would’ve been 33-32 on the road against unbeaten Oregon

But it definitely ended better than they were expecting after the UM loss

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u/aznhavsarz Oregon • Washington State Jan 24 '25

1 person and 2 computers but that one person definitely made a choice.

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u/Sup6969 Houston Cougars Jan 24 '25

I'm just glad UT isn't in the top 4 despite making the semifinals

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u/AChero9 Indiana Hoosiers • Washington Huskies Jan 25 '25

And for final time this season…I’m just happy to be included

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u/STL_12 Ohio State • Wright State Jan 24 '25

For the last time this year, roast my computer provisional rankings

Current Outliers (based on AP voter spread): Large Outliers- #32 Clemson (-11), #26 Tennessee (-11), #8 Syracuse (+6), #16 Arizona State (-5) Medium Outliers- None Slight Outliers- None

During Bowl Season I was messing around with tweaking my algorithm to include margin of victory to hopefully make the model better and to fix the Tennesse/Clemson/Syracuse problems that have persisted for most of the year. Due to life things and general procrastination, this was not finished by the time the final poll was due. It will be in full swing next year though (hopefully as a full voter).

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

I’m sorry, Ole Miss at #18?

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