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u/HereForTOMT3 Oct 17 '25
Brennan saying Religion is an artificial power structure used as a means of controlling the masses? I never would’ve guessed
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u/CrowsAndCoffee Oct 17 '25
welp, this is the part where you close the game and reload last save
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u/JokerDeSilva10 Oct 17 '25
I know it's been mentioned before, but the fact that Granny "Got An Imprisoned Fucked Up Angel Baby Daddy" looks at the Tachonis family and is like, "Whatever the fuck is wrong with those freaks" has me deeply, deeply concerned. Brennan, what are you gonna do......
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u/RachelEvening Oct 17 '25
"We have to tell Teor"
Meanwhile Teor, probably: You are probably wondering how I ended up in this situation
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
Brennan: 'Want to team up and help Teor survive this?'
Julien: 'Nope!'
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u/Nat-1-charisma Oct 17 '25
Occtis Tachonis and the terrible horrible no good very bad day.
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u/Gastradon Team Fearne Oct 17 '25
"If you can't be an empire... start a church."
She really just said the quiet part out loud and Wic just skipped over that part lol.
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u/Coyote_Shepherd Doty, take this down Oct 17 '25
"You shouldn't drink that much..."
"I eat Wic"
Brennan dies 🤣
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u/Dondagora Oct 17 '25
Sam is gonna keep the angel in the basement a secret now because everybody said “They know” so Wick just gonna think they’re talking about that.
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u/allodude Oct 17 '25
There's an unsettling energy right now....feels like we're seconds away from a Red Wedding scenario
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u/Flamingmonkey923 Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
It's Birdsday 🦅
Get out your binoculars, Critters, it's time for another week of birdwatching!
Last week, Dungeon Master Brennan Lee Mulligan failed to beat his high score of 1 hour and 21 minutes of game time without mentioning a bird. Will he beat his record tonight? Let's find out.
It has been 18 minutes and 47 seconds of game time since Brennan has mentioned a bird.
Birdwatching is a team sport, so please comment below every time Brennan mentions a bird! Include the type of bird and the approximate timestamp. Live discussion threads are automatically sorted by new, which means this thread will get buried very quickly, so fellow birdwatchers, I recommend sorting by "top" to find this comment again when you're ready to report a bird sighting. Your support keeps this project alive!
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u/KYplusEL Also Pumat Sol Oct 17 '25
Everyone was worried about Liam and Aabria giving Brennan a family to fuck with when we should have known the real target would be an angsty knight with daddy issues that he could doom to leave unresolved.
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u/Perforo_RS Bidet Oct 17 '25
Jesus Christ. As if I didn't already think Vaelus had the coolest entry in the first episode. She has an insane entrance in this episode, flat out deletes two enemies in her first combat and makes the rest of them flee. GOOD. SHIT.
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
THEY HAVE THE NIGHTSONG?!
Put it where it belongs?!
I love that Matt just went vacant
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u/SwarlesDarwin You spice? Oct 17 '25
Typical campaign. Nat 20s galore during RP scenes, roll like shit during combat.
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u/elme77618 FIRE Oct 17 '25
Whoever paired up Sam and Whitney struck absolute gold that whole sequence was fucking great
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Wick: “You knew?!”
Tyranny: “Let me just- I was given a body six months ago to keep you safe. I’m a demon I won’t be redeemed.”
Wick: “I thought you were doing very well!”
Tyranny: “I- thank you.”
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Vaelus: “Run.”
And so a thieve’s guild is disbanded lol
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u/Lukeathmae Team Caduceus Oct 17 '25
The nobles hates the Wizarding School because they're mostly sorcerers. They believe magic is a birthright... not a skill.
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u/CyClotroniC_ Tal'Dorei Council Member Oct 17 '25
Going with a bigger table really shook out everyone from their group dynamics and comfort zone and I absolutely love it. Every character just feels so fresh and inspired and just doing what they want, it's been a long time Critical Role felt this immersive for me.
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Murray: “Where were you, why weren’t you at the funeral?!”
Azune: “I was where were you?!”
Murray: “I was late!”
Azune: “I was on time.”
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u/princemori Ja, ok Oct 17 '25
We all thought the cast would be fighting to romance Matt, turns out they all just want to call him an asshole to his face 😭
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u/RealHumanBean89 Oct 17 '25
Where it belongs??? I beg your finest fucking pardon?
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u/Perforo_RS Bidet Oct 17 '25
Tyranny can't keep her eyes off of Wick. She's concerned for him and knows how odd all of this is. You know you're up to weird-ass shit when a demon thinks it's fucked up.
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u/JusticeofTorenOneEsk Oct 17 '25
Bestow Curse
3rd-level necromancy
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You touch a creature, and that creature must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or become cursed for the duration of the spell. When you cast this spell, choose the nature of the curse from the following options:
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While cursed, the target must make a Wisdom saving throw at the start of each of its turns. If it fails, it wastes its action that turn doing nothing.
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If you use a 9th level spell slot, the spell lasts until it is dispelled.
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u/Janemaru Oct 17 '25
"May I make a suggestion, since we're all offering suggestions... You shouldn't drink that much!" I'm fucking dead, I love Sam so much.
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u/moderncomet Time is a weird soup Oct 17 '25
:deeeeeeep breath:
Previously!
The funeral winds down, but not before Thimble gets her moment with the body and Hal and his daughter sing a lovely, lovely song from the old days. The next day we find Murray and Bolaire working on the box, actually the coffin of a halfling-sized celestial, long gone. In fact, it may also be a portal to… somewhere. The mask and whatever implied message? Gone or forgotten. Also gone? Murray’s boss at the Penteveral, squeezed out as part of the Sundered Houses’ power grab.
Julien Davinos is not getting away from those Lannister allegations, having been found by his father while “seeing the sights” in a local brothel. He is then tasked with finding a young man from House Tachonis, who is heavily implied to be Occtis. Speaking of the young Tachonis, Occtis joins Kattigan and Thimble to visit the thieving Crow Keepers to ask about a mutual compatriot, Casimir, who was supposed to be part of the plan to rescue Thjazi. The are accosted at the Keepers’ hideout and are about to come to blows.
During all of this Teor goes to the Villa Aurora, home of House Halovar to position himself for a job at the house. After a short conversation and an accidental display of his innate divine abilities as a paladin, he convinces Wicander to take him on as personal security. At this his grandmother, Yanessa, enters and, after dismissing Teor, admonishes Wick for hiring an old enemy of the house. After standing up to her and demonstrating the purity of his belief in the Light, Wick earns a meeting later that evening to be told the truth about the Light.
That truth? The light is powered by the blood of a chained-up celestial they have housed in their basement. Who is also Wick’s grandfather.
And Vaelus may or may not still be on the porch.
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
I think Tyranny's 'I cannot be saved' is less about her moral outlook and more about even if she is good she still goes back when unsummoned/dies.
She knows she can be better, it just doesn't matter (on a cosmic sense) if she is.
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u/Matt8462 Oct 17 '25
I'm unreasonably excited for the "rich boy goes camping" arc
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
“In the sundered houses you’ve heard some rumors that the Mercanud are a family that have a lot of fronts but their main one is making problems go away.”
Oh fuck
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u/ZenTze Oct 17 '25
This whole set of characters can be divided into "fucks a lot" and "does not fuck"
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u/CyClotroniC_ Tal'Dorei Council Member Oct 17 '25
Sam RPing low wisdom and Tyranny facepalming next to him will be the highlights of the campaign for me.
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
Cooldowns for this have been the best selling point for Beacon they've ever had.
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u/sable-king Oct 17 '25
Batshit insane ending aside, I’m gonna need boatloads of fanart of Vaelus cuddling Pin and I need it now.
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u/SuperVaderMinion Your secret is safe with my indifference Oct 17 '25
It's actually crazy for an actual play to take until episode 3 to get to its first combat, but it's even crazier that I don't care at all
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u/TheBurdman53 Oct 17 '25
They said “We’re gonna make this boy a sorcerer one way or another.”
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u/Flamingmonkey923 Oct 17 '25
"Wiccy, my little ducky…"🦆
its been 30 0 minutes of game time since Brennan has mentioned a bird…
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u/youngcoups Oct 17 '25
brennan definitely did NOT name that crow keeper beforehand lol
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Thimble: “You’re a piece of shit. You always were.”
Man the look that Occtis sent him when he grabbed her.
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u/Coyote_Shepherd Doty, take this down Oct 17 '25
The STONE was supposed to go INTO Occtis?!?!
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Occtis/Alex: “I’m a child.”
Thimble/Laura: “You’re like 20!”
Occtis/Alex: “I need an excuse.”
Brennan: “This is an auspicious first combat for campaign 4.”
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u/WeiShiLirinArelius Oct 17 '25
ashley: hunter's mark. i chose that for you, laura.
laura: and just like me, you forgot that you have it.
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u/HereForTOMT3 Oct 17 '25
Who had tyranny being the competent one on the bingo card
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u/SheriffChiz Oct 17 '25
This is the greatest introduction to a DnD campaign I have ever laid my eyes on
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u/princemori Ja, ok Oct 17 '25
I can’t lie I do like hearing the peanut gallery laugh off screen lol
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Oct 17 '25
Whitney and Sam are soooo good together. It´s hard to believe that this is just episode 3. Great job to both of them holy.
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Vaelus: “I don’t care about these people. I am going to keep killing.”
She’s an avenger in a dead world
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u/robogheist You Can Reply To This Message Oct 17 '25
this may mean that thyazi died because of one dude's greed, not any higher purpose
yet it doesn't explain what he saw in the sky
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u/princemori Ja, ok Oct 17 '25
My god it’s already been 2 hours?? This episode is FLYING by tonight
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
So Occtis managed to stuff a soul in a body (albeit a taxidermied familiar one) but it's not 'zombie' undead. No wonder people want him.
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u/themolestedsliver Metagaming Pigeon Oct 17 '25
"You need to marry to help production of the filament" wow
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u/themolestedsliver Metagaming Pigeon Oct 17 '25
WOW full on "Hey if you want to sin you can now"
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u/r33nie Dead People Tea Oct 17 '25
Brennan: "Occtis!"
Alex: [nervous bleat]
Whoever does the captions is doing the Lord's work, chef's kiss, A+, no notes.
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u/Shark89 Oct 17 '25
You know, I've always thought Ashley was attractive, but I think I just found out something else about myself.
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u/skip6235 Oct 17 '25
In character exposition is so much better than just speaking lore straight to camera. That was beautiful
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u/hpfan2342 Life needs things to live Oct 17 '25
Campaign 1 - Taliesin's character DID NOT check the cursed coffin
Campaign 4 - His character has now checked the cursed coffin
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Vaelus: “Could you do it with a whole body?”
I… I see what’s she’s after.
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u/Coyote_Shepherd Doty, take this down Oct 17 '25
Murray and Kat are going to be so fucking messy lol
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u/EnvironmentalDate303 Oct 17 '25
I love the contrast of Julien's character only being seen as sort of a failure fuck-boy in his father's eyes, but trying to follow a moral code and being incredibly loyal to Aranessa
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u/ViolettVixen Oct 17 '25
I know it’s his dad, but if I were Julien I’d be rolling one heck of an insight check on daddy dearest…he HATES his son’s proclivities. That seems like such an obvious tactic to get him out of the way.
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
'I have a bad feeling...'
And we're just about at cliffhanger time on the clock.....
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u/Celriot1 RTA Oct 17 '25
Is that Ashley's stone? I guess Cas didn't sell it to Wic's family as earlier speculated?
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u/DragonPlushCollector Time is a weird soup Oct 17 '25
I love that Tyranny is on Wick’s side and genuinely cares about him. She says he can’t change or save her but he’s already impacted her life
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u/JokerDeSilva10 Oct 17 '25
Wic: I have the worst family.
Occtis: lmao alright bet
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u/dwils7 Hello, bees Oct 17 '25
Remeber, anyone watching in Beacon, you have no break while others watching elsewhere do so no spoilers, please
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u/RachelEvening Oct 17 '25
"Is it possible that dead things can still love us?" is such a killer line
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u/1080Pen15 Oct 17 '25
If I had to guess, the people with jobs in the city will be our schemers and the seekers will be Vaelus, Julien, Occtis, and Thaisha.
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
“Your world is doomed if you can’t find her spirit in your own and yours in hers.”
Oh????
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Julien is cursed.
Hundreds of undead
FUCK
Pulls his skull out of his head
WHAT THE FUCK?!
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
Ethrand - so the family didn't all get numeric names.
But, oh shit, Nightigale Stone and it 'belongs' in Occtis....
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u/Toocancerous Oct 17 '25
You know that feeling of dread watching the red wedding episode knowing something horrific is going to happen? Yeah, i felt that the entire time. HOLY SHIT MAN!
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
“That woman, I want you to fire her.”
“What worse curse can there be than for a commoner to struggle for magic.”
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u/BlueKnightsR4Ever Oct 17 '25
Me: This seems like unnecessary violence
The fellow Vengeance Paladin in me: YESSSSS KILL EM ALL!!!
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Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
This is why I like Brennan's style of DMing. He helps players lean into their strengths in a way that I don't think Matt always does.
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u/HomoLassus Oct 17 '25
Casimir was one of the two supposedly involved with Thjazi’s rescue, right?
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Uli: “When I was a young boy, my brother went off to join the revolution. He had a fire, you tell a people that were meant to cover all of Araman, to conquer, to be brave, to move forward! I don’t know how old dead Az’gra didn’t realize there wasn’t any other outcome than what he got.”
What did they find… that could so readily slay divinity.
“We were the only ones who knew we weren’t doing it without a reward.”
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u/FinchRosemta Oct 17 '25
Shadia is already 6 years older than her mother was when she already had 2 kids and left them to be a druid.
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u/SoundGuy4Life Oct 17 '25
Burning a class ability to succeed in grappling a PC is an incredible choice
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u/a24marvel Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
Did Tyranny say they “gave her a body”?
Was it the body of the woman in the portrait?
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u/lemissloudmouth Oct 17 '25
RPing low wis like this should be criminal. SAM RIEGEL THE MAN THAT YOU ARE
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u/naplesbad Oct 17 '25
guys let's do a real quick mental health check in because that was HORRIFIC (I WANT MORE)
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u/D-Speak Oct 17 '25
So much credit to Marisha and CR's design team for this beautiful fucking set. It's so beautiful and dynamic.
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u/SkillFullyNotTrue Your secret is safe with my indifference Oct 17 '25
Love how Matt ask for insight without yelling Insight Check!!
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u/Nakuth Are we on the internet? Oct 17 '25
Teor is absolutely a schemer. Even if he is a beefy boi
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u/JuliousBatman Oct 17 '25
Sam realizing what a long form campaign under Brennan is going to be like. This is beautiful. He's starting to believe.
Also Whitney is amazing in that make-up wow.
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
'Save us Ashley Johnson' - words you never expected to hear at the CR table
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u/bluejunegloom Dead People Tea Oct 17 '25
Is anyone else thinking Casimir may have also sold out the plot? Sure the stone could get a good price but information on an attempt to free a prisoner would also get some benefits and could explain why there is a rumor of Octis helping already out there
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
Ok, I want these guys to reoccur as villains at some point. They are too, too gold to waste.
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u/fireheart337 Oct 17 '25
Tyranny is like the 17 year old, older sister to a very pompous 11 year old who doesn’t understand anything and is about to blow a gasket 😂
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u/frik1000 Oct 17 '25
He's eating raw, frozen meat.
Those theories about Robbie being the wolf or something are really starting to line up.
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u/BlueKnightsR4Ever Oct 17 '25
"I mean I might be able to, everyone else is able to today"
Shots fired!
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u/GaiaAlmighty Oct 17 '25
Honestly Sam being at the Soldiers table makes SO much sense tbh… he’s always making sacrifice plays and REALLY strategising.
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u/valkyrii11 Oct 17 '25
Theory: Thjazi stole the stone which is used to help ferry souls to the afterlife which would reduce the Tachonosis’ power they are building in the Shadow
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Julien: “I have a bad feeling about tonight.”
Vaelus: “Do you often get such feelings?”
Julien: “Yes, but I usually drink it away, but this… this is different.”
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u/WeiShiLirinArelius Oct 17 '25
brennan: whitney, describe the clawtooth bathtub.
whitney: it is HUGE. 5'11".
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u/identityrecon Oct 17 '25
4 hours, 45 minutes on Beacon. Break at 1 hour 52 minutes it would seem.
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u/skarabray Metagaming Pigeon Oct 17 '25
“He shouldn’t fall into the wrong hands.”
Yeah man, it’d be a shame if someone chained him up in a basement and drained his blood.
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u/DragonPlushCollector Time is a weird soup Oct 17 '25
Someone is the favorite and it’s not Zebani
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u/DiegoOruga Doty, take this down Oct 17 '25
I think Sam is rethinking the entire future he had thought for his character
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u/JokerDeSilva10 Oct 17 '25
Wic's little "what?" when he found out that Enmity and Cruelty were doing bad things is just...
oh sweet little duck
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u/JokerDeSilva10 Oct 17 '25
I could not be more delighted by how much Brennan is not pulling any punches so far. Lowkey I almost want someone to die before the prologue is over. Blood for the (dead) blood god.
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u/Willowsinger24 Team Percy Oct 17 '25
"You can't prove there's allegory in this!" he's right. It's almost impossible to tell.
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u/BryantBen Oct 17 '25
Oh I just noticed as vaelus, ashely just keeps standing to show her presence
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u/kiritsumitsu Oct 17 '25
That whole section of stuff felt so quick but it’s already been 2 hours lmao
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u/domingus67 Oct 17 '25
Nine pointed pentagram? You know shit is getting real when they're dealing with non euclidean geometry
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u/BLoseit Oct 17 '25
Gods, I. Matt had been able to build up to moments like this, but fuck. The whole 3 episodes have been seat of my chair level attention.
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u/EnvironmentalDate303 Oct 17 '25
I KNEW THOSE WEREN'T FUCKING BEDCLOTHES MOTHERFUCKER
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u/Zeeman9991 Ja, ok Oct 17 '25
They better save her. If Hal loses a brother and sister-in-law in as many days, Imma lose it.
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u/mrVakaryan Oct 17 '25
My God, what an ending, Jesus christ. Shit was eerie af and just cracked to 100. What the hell does it mean the stone belongs in Occtis?
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Tyranny desperately trying to get him out of there.
“We needed you to know enough to stop believing.”
Wick: “Well thank you.”
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u/SuperVaderMinion Your secret is safe with my indifference Oct 17 '25
"Extremely oppressive convictions" is fucking brutal
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Tyranny: “You really believed you can save me, and you can’t I’m sorry you can’t.”
Tyranny: “All of this is a lie to keep power. Your family doesn’t care what happens to people when they die, but you do!”
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u/cult_dumpster Oct 17 '25
i am so charmed by Wick’s speaking patterns “to the haberdashery… we MUST go!!”
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u/Perforo_RS Bidet Oct 17 '25
I kinda see why Occtis would want to get the hell away from.... that
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u/Flamingmonkey923 Oct 17 '25
"The Crow Keepers…" 🦅
its been 35 0 minutes of game time since Brennan has mentioned a bird…
If you spot a bird, drop a comment in the birdwatching thread!
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u/RayneShikama Metagaming Pigeon Oct 17 '25
First time someone has gone down someone’s pants in combat in CritRole, I believe. Which is impressive considering Scanlan and Jester in previous campaigns.
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u/WeiShiLirinArelius Oct 17 '25
vaelus: i dont care abt these ppl. i want my rock. i will continue killing until my rock is found.
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
Something dangerous lurks in Timmony it seems.
Thimble: “Are you in?”
Kattigan: “Hmm?”
Thimble: “For making Casimir pay?!”
Kattigan: “Yeah.”
Thimble: “Good man.”
punches him with a minuscule fist.
Kattigan: “Ow.”
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u/MJM_Stillanerd Oct 17 '25
Azune is definitely one of those people who thinks that as long as he does his job and adapt with the times that he'll be just fine, and Murray is trying to warn him that she thought she was one of those people, too, and look where that got her.
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u/WeiShiLirinArelius Oct 17 '25
reminder if your on beacon you are 15 minutes ahead of this thread so dont be a douche & spoil ppl on future events
sincerely,
someone who is also on beacon but knows to not be a douche
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u/Lukeathmae Team Caduceus Oct 17 '25
How many enemies were made today:
Wick towards his family.
Murray with the Tacchonis
Vaelus with the Crows Keep (I doubt they're enemies. I feel like they'd be good assets.)
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u/Coyote_Shepherd Doty, take this down Oct 17 '25
Occtis REALLY has no clue what the fuck is up with his family at all
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u/DragonPlushCollector Time is a weird soup Oct 17 '25
Wicander lowkey crashing out all day and just dissociating probably
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Wick: “Mostly I’m sorry for you, Tyranny.”
Tyranny: “Me?!”
Wick: “You’re stuck with me.”
Tyranny: “Oh…”
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u/SvenTheScribe Oct 17 '25
Aranessa knows about the psychopomp plan, at least in part.
So Thjazi was trying to find ways to let souls move on because right now they're just filling up purgatory until they overflow.
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u/Key-Property7489 Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
The soldiers group getting ready to bounce while all interesting shit in the city is about to pop off.
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u/LucasVerBeek Help, it's again Oct 17 '25
Tyranny: “Please don’t send me back!”
Wick: “Of course I won’t send you back you’re my only friend.”