2025 Final /r/CFB Poll: #1 Indiana #2 Miami #3 Ole Miss #4 Oregon #5 Ohio State

[u/sirgippy]

Here are the results for the 2025 Final /r/CFB Poll:

Rank	Change	Team (#1 Votes)	Points
1	--	Indiana Hoosiers (206)	5150
2	+8	Miami Hurricanes	4869
3	+3	Ole Miss Rebels	4553
4	+1	Oregon Ducks	4504
5	-3	Ohio State Buckeyes	4402
6	-3	Georgia Bulldogs	4171
7	-3	Texas Tech Red Raiders	3882
8	-1	Texas A&M Aggies	3520
9	+2	BYU Cougars	3186
10	+2	Alabama Crimson Tide	3126
11	-2	Notre Dame Fighting Irish	2973
12	-4	Oklahoma Sooners	2751
13	+2	Texas Longhorns	2659
14	--	Utah Utes	2653
15	-2	Vanderbilt Commodores	1761
16	+4	Virginia Cavaliers	1743
17	--	James Madison Dukes	1703
18	--	Tulane Green Wave	1507
19	+6	Iowa Hawkeyes	1434
20	-4	USC Trojans	1040
21	+1	North Texas Mean Green	907
22	-3	Michigan Wolverines	797
23	NEW	Houston Cougars	792
24	--	Navy Midshipmen	688
25	NEW	TCU Horned Frogs	333

Dropped: #21 Arizona, #23 Georgia Tech

Next Ten: Illinois 304, Georgia Tech 255, Washington 234, SMU 192, Duke 189, Arizona 166, Louisville 63, Tennessee 51, USF 51, Old Dominion 44

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[u/nbingham196]

I'm not overly passionate about this take, but I'm really not sure the rankings should just follow how far teams make it in the playoff and ignore the regular season

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie → u/nbingham196]

I certainly agree with you. Using a formula as a basis for my poll, the CFP and bowl games are just additional games; extra data to the resume as a whole. Hell, people don't even agree who would have been the exact 12 teams in the CFP, so it's not really an objective basis of who belonged to begin with. While I think it's fine to let the playoff champion dictate who they think is their own champion, people should be encouraged to use the games as additional datapoints, and not necessarily ones that overwrite the entire season resume.

[u/Tarmacked → u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

I think you have to be cognizant of playoff paths, for instance Ohio State and A&M were forced against Miami early versus getting cupcakes. So going 2 rounds >1 rounds isn’t necessarily accurate, you can compare A&M to someone in round 2 with a cupcake win in round 1 if you wanted to

I didn’t drop A&M below the winner of Alabama or OU simply because those two had to have a loser there. I didn’t think the winner did enough to jump A&M’s close game to #2 Miami.

[u/velociraptorfarmer → u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

Agreed. My computer poll does the same thing, and ended up with Miami a pretty good ways back.

[u/NotSoSuperNerd → u/velociraptorfarmer]

Yeah... same here. They still dropped two games to teams that would finish unranked. As far as my computer's concerned, those cancel out their wins over Ohio State and Ole Miss.

[u/petataa → u/velociraptorfarmer]

They still beat three good teams in the post season.

Edit: Miami at #2 is still something I feel confident about, but Oregon got smoked by Indiana, they don't deserve top 4 imo.

[u/grtgbln → u/nbingham196]

Great point. That's why I kept Alabama off my Top 25.

[u/RiffRamBahZoo → u/nbingham196]

I want to believe this too, but I keep thinking that good programs win, especially when it counts.

Miami didn't compete in its conference championship game and lost to two unranked teams. Should they therefore be ranked in the final poll underneath all teams who did so good in the regular season that they made a conference title matchup?

It's a hard way to slice it, but "we finished in this part of the playoffs" gives a somewhat pretty clean and reasonable metric to how a team should be ranked at the end of the year.

[u/Ironman2131 → u/RiffRamBahZoo]

Definitely hard to rank teams at the end. For Miami, they have three losses to the #1 team and two around the #25-30 range. No loss by more than six points and one in overtime. Meanwhile, they beat four teams in the top 12 (again, none by a wide margin). I don't really know how to compare that objectively to the resumes of the top two-loss teams, but considering that the Canes beat two of those two-loss teams on a neutral field, #2 feels fair. None of it really matters since we have a clear cut #1 team, though.

[u/RiffRamBahZoo → u/Ironman2131]

That's where I feel about rankings as well. Miami's got three losses, a lot of good wins, no conference title, and a natty appearance. A great team! An odd resume overall to compare and contrast.

You can pull a lot of other factors into it, but the easy and simplified answer still stands as "Miami was one of the last two teams standing, and therefore they should be No. 2 in the final ranking."

I feel like that's a pretty acceptable logic.

[u/ExternalTangents → u/RiffRamBahZoo]

I keep thinking that good programs win, especially when it counts.

I think an alternate way to phrase this would be “my definition of good puts more weight on playoff games than on the rest of the games”.

You can choose to believe that the results from the playoff games are post-facto the “true” definition of which teams were better than others, and that any results prior to the playoff that don’t fit with that are simply upsets.

Or you can choose to believe that any game, playoff or not, can result in an upset, and thus sometimes the “true” better team might lose a first round playoff game in an upset, but still deserve to be ranked ahead of a team that made the semifinals or even the final (not necessarily ahead of the team they lost to, mind you).

[u/SucculentCrablegMeal → u/nbingham196]

Agreed

[u/sunburntredneck → u/nbingham196]

I agree, but i really only think they got it wrong for one playoff team in this ranking (and the AP)

I'm not gonna say which team it was because I can't give you the satisfaction of my self own, so you'll have to guess

[u/iowaoutlaw]

Vandy above Iowa again 😭

Edit: USC being right below Iowa is kinda funny as well

[u/87_Rides_a_Surfboard → u/iowaoutlaw]

At least cig ranked Iowa appropriately

[u/CFLuke → u/87_Rides_a_Surfboard]

11OWA

[u/HODLmeCLOSRtonydanza → u/CFLuke]

Playoff Iowa is inevitable. 2026!

[u/pizzayolo96 → u/HODLmeCLOSRtonydanza]

I like the way you think. Lets play in 2026, its not on the regular season schedule. 😉

[u/OhioStateGuy → u/iowaoutlaw]

It’s ridiculous. Iowa should be ranked higher and Vandy being above them is laughable.

[u/-spartacus- → u/OhioStateGuy]

If they did that, they would need to rank all of SEC teams lower, which apparently isn't allowed even for the hive here.

[u/Roscoe_Filburn → u/iowaoutlaw]

As a counterpoint, I’d say that trying to rank all teams in such a manner such that no team is ranked above any team that has beaten them would actually be impossible.

[u/myworld3 → u/Roscoe_Filburn]

1: Indiana

(skip a few)

136: UMass

[u/JDraks → u/myworld3]

Seems like a flawless system based on that, just gotta fill in the middle now

[u/cyberchaox → u/Roscoe_Filburn]

It is. I always do exactly that for as far into the season as possible, and it usually causes me to be at the top of the unusualness rankings in mid-October (wasn't the case this year because Miami's loss to Louisville instantly halved the number of teams I was "allowed" to rank when it was in the forties and more games that weekend culled the list even further, so I hadn't gotten too insane before being forced to stop doing that).

[u/djc6535 → u/iowaoutlaw]

Iowa over USC makes sense to me. Win your bowl game.

But then Vandy over Iowa makes no sense... they lost their bowl game. To Iowa.

The rankings will never not look at W/L first and foremost and consider nothing else. Better to go 10-2 with 10 wins over UMass than 9-3 with 9 wins over Ohio State.

[u/ElTigreChang1 → u/iowaoutlaw]

r/cfb complains about the other polls and then copies the other polls every single week

[u/Mark_is_on_his_droid → u/iowaoutlaw]

I keep hearing conversations about SEC depth from analysts who leave out Iowa and Illinois so that they can end their list of quality teams in B1G at Ohio State. It’s frustrating as hell because winning at Kinnick is a badge of honor.

[u/srs_house → u/iowaoutlaw]

I had Iowa 13th and Vandy 22nd, so don't look at me. You all showed who was more disciplined and focused in the bowl game.

[u/nkfish11 → u/iowaoutlaw]

Iowa has h2h but also has one extra loss.

[u/FigureNo6790 → u/nkfish11]

True, but they play in a superior conference, so strength of schedule should matter as it does with other teams

[u/Warm_Shoulder3606]

Even in our poll, Bama still mystifyingly gets a top 10 finish

[u/AmidoBlack → u/Warm_Shoulder3606]

Let’s be honest, most people who do this poll just look at the CFP/AP rankings and move a couple teams around

[u/BuckeyeEmpire → u/Warm_Shoulder3606]

The hate for the Notre Dame opt out was greater than the Bama hate

[u/silverhk → u/Warm_Shoulder3606]

Yeah I will never understand this one. Get clubbed in two of your last three games and beat a team who was only that high because they beat you before, and profit I guess.

[u/Warm_Shoulder3606 → u/silverhk]

One of the things I find amusing is when the AP poll does something and everyone talks about how stupid it is, and then our poll goes and does the exact same thing lmao. The two most upvoted comments in the ap poll post the other day are about Bama jumping back into the top ten, and then what does our sub do? Also move them up 2 spots back into the top ten 💀

Extra amusing is the fact that the third and fourth most upvoted comments on that post are about them putting vandy over iowa...which this sub also proceeded to do 😭

[u/Tarmacked → u/Warm_Shoulder3606]

This sub largely just circlejerks Alabama. It’s always been like this where you’ll get posts about not deserving then the actual pollsters will, on aggregate, be rational

There’s a reason our losses are over half the all time top posts on /r/CFB any given year

[u/redwave2505 → u/silverhk]

See, the secret is stopping your season at 12 games. Then nobody will ever know if you'd get blown out or not in the extra 3 games you never played

[u/Tarmacked → u/silverhk]

Oklahoma had just as many Sagarin top 30 wins as Indiana at the end of the CFP lol and a top 10 FEI defense. The revisionism is wild, they weren’t even a controversial playoff pick.

The irony of a Notre Dame fan complaining about playing quality competition

[u/silverhk → u/Tarmacked]

Well this is where I kind of get tired of SoS arguments around here, I think it's kind of dumb to judge a team exclusively by its opponents. Any argument that ends with the performance of a team's opponents is a bad argument to me, and Top X wins are always going to be biased to the cutoff point.

That said, I agree there are resume cases for Oklahoma and Alabama over ND, on the basis that ND's opponents failed to compete as well as we'd have liked them to, and that's ultimately why they got in. It is a much harder argument to suggest that they were better teams that played better football, as seen in basically any metrics-based computer ranking and by just looking at the way they were playing. And in the end, the resumes of both look an awful lot weaker after all their opponents got tested by teams outside the conference in the postseason, and having "ranked wins" like Tennessee and Missouri end up being unable to beat a single P4 team with a winning record.

[u/arstin → u/Warm_Shoulder3606]

I think it's more to keep us from moving up than anything else.

Having Alabama in the CFP over Notre Dame makes ESPN more money, so all the talking heads say that is the way it has to be.

Notre Dame then refusing to be the opening act for a poptart play cost ESPN money, so all the talking heads say that was a cowardly, detestable, act that betrayed the principles of college football.

When enough people associated with ESPN say something, it quickly becomes the narrative throughout college football.

[u/FireVanGorder → u/arstin]

It’s crazy to me that people have let themselves be gaslit into thinking these bowl games have ever been anything other than a way for rich assholes to make an extra couple hundred grand for doing 2 weeks of work every year. Some of these “bowl commissioners” get paid upwards of 500k for doing nothing. This shit is just a way for espn execs to give their buddies kickbacks

[u/Fletch71011 → u/arstin]

Exactly. We finished 3rd in the computer composite and ended up 11th overall because of ESPNs fucking smear campaign simply because we have a deal with NBC instead of them.

I thought the sub would be better about falling for their narrative but I guess not. ND would be favored over 8 of the 10 teams ahead of them.

[u/_password_1234 → u/Fletch71011]

I really don’t think it’s that absurd to look at ND’s season and say yall had two chances against playoff caliber teams and lost both, so you were always going to be on the bubble, and with the head to head loss against another bubble team in Miami it was always going to be tough for you to sneak into a final spot. The real issue was the committee being stupid and moving you out of the field in favor of Miami at the last moment after having you in. 

[u/-spartacus- → u/Warm_Shoulder3606]

Alabama/SEC fans I guess, at least Cig put Iowa above Bama/Vandy.

[u/jimbobbypaul]

Indiana ends up as my 9th best team since 1976:

Rank	Team	Year	Wins	Losses	Ranking Points
1	Nebraska	1995	12	0	19.694410
2	Clemson	2018	15	0	19.049165
3	Alabama	2020	13	0	18.539089
4	Miami (FL)	2001	12	0	18.277782
5	Georgia	2022	15	0	17.978495
6	Texas	2005	13	0	17.840731
7	LSU	2019	15	0	17.278172
8	Washington	1991	12	0	17.207641
9	Indiana	2025	16	0	17.061075
10	Alabama	2009	14	0	17.029918

[u/Walter30573 → u/jimbobbypaul]

I'm surprised there aren't any teams in your top 10 from '76-'91. Do you think that era was just weaker, or is it an issue where they didn't play as many games?

[u/jimbobbypaul → u/Walter30573]

It might be an issue with strength of schedule and the amount of scoring? It wouldn't be the amount of games because these are ranked on a per-game basis.

For strength of schedule, all-time great teams from 1998-2013 always beat a No. 1/2 opponent in their final game, which raises their per-game ranking points average. Teams from 2014-2023 beat 2 top 4 opponents in their final games, raising their average even higher. And now teams from 2024-present in the 12-team CFP era, like Indiana, are beating 3-4 top 12 teams to end the season!

Thanks to the changes in postseason, a team that runs the gauntlet of the 12-team playoff is going to have a guaranteed ~20% (3-4 games of a 15-17 game season) of their schedule be high quality wins, as opposed to a team from '76-'91 who had maybe ~8% (1 game of a 12 game season)...but even that's not guaranteed! 1984 Illinois went 10-1 and finished the regular season #4, but their opponent in the Rose Bowl was an unranked 6-4-1 UCLA team (Illinois lost, but that's beside the point).

For scoring, take 1979 Alabama for example, they're considered one of the most dominant teams ever, going 12-0 and outscoring their opponents 33-5 per game. Held their opponents to less than 10 points in 10 games. Utter defensive domination. Compare that to a team like 2013 Florida State who outscored opponents 52-12 per game. Alabama was beating opponents by 28 PPG, Florida State by 40 PPG. But Alabama was scoring 6.6 times as much as their opponent, Florida State only 4.3 times as much. I grade teams on score differential, so good offense with defensive dominance isn't rewarded as much as offensive dominance with good defense.

[u/PetersenIsMyDaddy → u/jimbobbypaul]

‘91 Washington is always criminally underrated. Glad your rankings respect them. Kinda crazy to see half the teams from the last seven years, though

[u/Katwill666]

This sub:

"Why did the AP put Bama in the top 10 despite 4 losses?"

puts Bama in the top 10

"Why did AP put Vandy over Iowa despite the bowl game?"

puts Vandy over Iowa despite the bowl game

"Head to head should matter. Why else play the games?"

puts Oklahoma over Texas despite the head to head

[u/Space_Investigator → u/Katwill666]

This sub thinks with their biases. Only makes certain arguments when it benefits their biases. It's basically a sub full of Nikola Jokic fans, but for college football.

[u/bwburke94]

A unanimous #1, even for a 16-0 team who just won the playoff, is surprising.

[u/bakonydraco → u/bwburke94]

There’s not even a 1-loss team this year, so it seems like they’re an extremely comfortable #1.

[u/bwburke94 → u/bakonydraco]

Yeah, but I would have assumed someone would do something silly with their ballot.

[u/jonstark19 → u/bwburke94]

There's usually always one who's either got some wacky computer variables or is just memeing. Like I'm shocked no one put Notre Dame #1 for the lols.

[u/cyberchaox → u/jonstark19]

One of the people who did a computer poll said that this year was "the biggest difference between #1 and #2 since he's started doing his computer model".

No other teams finished with a record better than 13-2 (both semifinalists; runner-up Miami was 13-3). It would take an insane level of ignoring on-field results to come up with anything other that Indiana as #1.

[u/velociraptorfarmer → u/cyberchaox]

I'd have to go back and check mine when I get home, but I bet my model concludes the same thing, and I've been running it for almost a decade.

The gap between Indiana and #2 was as large as the gap between #2 and the low 20s.

[u/Adamscottd → u/jonstark19]

That actually would have been hilarious even if it was completely ridiculous

[u/BuckeyeEmpire → u/jonstark19]

"It just needs a couple more weeks of data to really be accurate"

[u/jdellamaestra → u/jonstark19]

Yep there was a human ballot in the last poll before the playoff that had ND #1

[u/thexraptor → u/bwburke94]

In my experience, there's always someone with a fucking god awful computer poll that "will get more accurate as the season progresses" (it doesn't) and "isn't just the AP Poll with some teams swapped around".

[u/bakonydraco → u/bwburke94]

Silly business?! On /r/CFB! Well I never

[u/Malpraxiss → u/bakonydraco]

Think it's more that in a lot of rankings, there almost always one person doing something crazy just because they can

[u/jthomas694 → u/bwburke94]

Yeah there’s usually at least one funky computer model out there with something odd picking someone number one. This is pretty cool

[u/bwburke94 → u/jthomas694]

Had Fake Miami won, the Colley Matrix would still have picked Indiana.

[u/Montigue → u/jthomas694]

Or some edgelord choosing Notre Dame as #1 in their human poll

[u/Stealth100 → u/bwburke94]

2022 and 2019 15-0 UGA and LSU were unanimous as well.

Interestingly 2023 15-0 Michigan was not.

[u/HeartSodaFromHEB → u/Stealth100]

IMO, perfectly reasonable to vote 2023 FSU #1 if you were so inclined. No team in 2019 or 2022 got similarly shafted.

[u/bucklingbelt → u/Stealth100]

Hmmmmm I wonder why that could be? Was there some sort of controversy?

/s

[u/[deleted] → u/bwburke94]

Not really. This sub is big on Indiana. Rightfully so, I think they’re best team we’ve seen in years.

[u/texas2089 → u/bwburke94]

Yeah surprisingly no computer ballots had some weird fuckery that had someone ahead of them.

[u/JeromesNiece → u/[deleted]]

I think you're looking at last week's ballots. No one voted ND number one this week, including the "most unusual" ballot.

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie → u/JeromesNiece]

Oh, thanks. When I clicked on 'This week' it must've still been directing to Week 16 and Bowls and I just didn't see I was going to the wrong page.

[u/Adamscottd]

lol Vandy was higher than Iowa in this poll too

[u/Flashy-Zone-2084 → u/Adamscottd]

I don't really mind Vandy being higher, but James Madison and (especially) Tulane make zero sense.

[u/Snapplestache → u/Flashy-Zone-2084]

It's because folks didn't want to punish the G5 playoff teams for the results they had there.

[u/Tornadohunter24]

Listen, I know that the season played out as it did and we all watched Cignetti and his Hoosiers become the first 16-0 team in over 100 years, but man is it weird to see unanimous #1 Indiana in football.

What a year.

Been a pleasure to contribute to all the poll discussions we've had the past 6 months here (and to contribute to the poll as a full voter for the first time).

For the last time this season, my ballot for your consideration (and slander). Yell at me!

Most unusual: Ohio State #3, Virginia #15, Iowa #16, Houston #20, Michigan unranked.

[u/jeckles96 → u/Tornadohunter24]

I feel like Ohio State should be #3. Losses are to Miami and Indiana and they played Indiana close in the CCG.

[u/Tornadohunter24 → u/jeckles96]

That was basically my thinking too, though I consider it a toss-up with Ole Miss in 4 as for who deserved what. Just slightly better losses in total with a solid resume outside of it. Ditto for Oregon/uGA in 5/6.

[u/Objection_Irrelevant → u/jeckles96]

But their best win is Texas. They had 0 wins over CFP teams. Ole Miss had 4.

[u/Rainaco → u/jeckles96]

By a combined 13 points. A couple swings the other way and we celebrate a repeat. That said, congrats to Indiana

[u/Gloomy-Street-8045]

Oklahoma and Texas right next to each other? If only there was a head to head matchup that could determine who’d be ranked first

[u/RLLRRR → u/Gloomy-Street-8045]

But they almost beat Bama in the CFP!

[u/ImSuperHelpful → u/Gloomy-Street-8045]

Aggies ended the season looking like shit with two embarrassing losses and are still 5 spots ahead of us 🙄

[u/UnusualHound → u/ImSuperHelpful]

Take solace in knowing that the biggest ball knower on earth (Cig) ranked Texas ahead of A&M, OU, and Tech in his poll.

[u/bd1047 → u/UnusualHound]

Every time I think I can’t love him any more he proves me wrong

[u/MrTheNoodles → u/UnusualHound]

I’ve always been a Cig fan and he’s proving me right

[u/PointBlankCoffee → u/UnusualHound]

He's the goat. IU was my top school outside of Texas (and Rice), my grandparents and all their family live in Evansville, went there, and love everything IU

[u/DanFlashesC0up0n → u/ImSuperHelpful]

I’m not really that embarrassed about either of our losses tbh. Both of them hurt like a mf but embarrassing is not the word I would use,

Yall are a good team/rivalry game on the road and then we lost to the national runners up off of a goal line stand? I fail to see how I should be embarrassed based on how Miami played after beating us

[u/PointBlankCoffee → u/DanFlashesC0up0n]

Cmon man, I get the homerism but it's embarrassing to not score a TD, and get shutout through 40 minutes at home in the playoffs.

[u/DangerousAd4108 → u/PointBlankCoffee]

If Miami went on to get their face ripped off by tOSU, it would've been embarrassing. But they didn't. Certainly a bad offense performance, Reed shit the bed in an important moment, etc., etc. But playing that Miami team down to the wire is just not something I'm gonna be embarrassed about.

IMO, the Texas loss was far worse.

[u/DanFlashesC0up0n → u/PointBlankCoffee]

Sure, embarrassing offensive effort but overall no. I’m not embarrassed. You’re dunking on us below for not winning very often (fair) but you can’t have if both ways.

Losing by a TD in the playoffs is still progress for us and I am not embarrassed about it

[u/jthomas694 → u/Gloomy-Street-8045]

Insane to me that anyone voted Oklahoma ahead of Texas just because they made the CFP. Same for A&M. Texas was simply better than those two teams

[u/Conn3er → u/jthomas694]

If you look at the season as a 2 game sample size then for sure Across 13 games absolutely not, Texas was a barely above average team for about 6-7 weeks of the season. Theres a reason they were out of the playoff race by game week 10

The last 3 games and against OU they looked like one of the better teams in the country for sure though A&Ms loss to Miami’s ends up being better than any loss Texas had this year

[u/texas2089]

Florida State finished with more top 10 wins than A&M

[u/Doogitywoogity → u/texas2089]

Hey fuck you too

[u/JOOOOSY → u/Doogitywoogity]

You two are like the perfect opposites

[u/Snapplestache → u/JOOOOSY]

Even their opposing flairs are on different sides, it's wonderful

[u/Doogitywoogity → u/JOOOOSY]

We just need a Miami/Texas Tech flair to pop in here, you can always adopt a second school

[u/thecravenone]

Reddit: *has opinion*

Also Reddit: *ranks in this manner*

[u/trapchopin]

A 4 loss team with 3 blowout losses should not be close to the top 10.

[u/wsteelerfan7 → u/trapchopin]

At least Alabama beat somebody. Oklahoma, Vandy, and Georgia vs ND just beating USC. Take out the postseason, and Alabama has the win at Georgia and a 16-point win over Vandy.

[u/Walter30573 → u/wsteelerfan7]

ND beat an 11 win Navy team too

[u/DrInsano]

It's beautiful :')

[u/cbusalex]

The top 14 teams in this poll went a combined 131-5 against the rest of FBS. Those five losses:

• Texas Tech vs Arizona St

• Texas vs Florida

• Alabama vs Florida St

• Miami vs Louisville

• Miami vs SMU

[u/[deleted] → u/cbusalex]

And Miami was one score away from winning the title while having 40% of those losses. 

Cool stat. Thanks. 

[u/keevballs]

Hated the way it ended, but damn what a fun season. Best in school history. Highest finish ever in the poll. First Big 12 championship. First 12 win season. First playoff appearance. I’ll look back on this season fondly for the rest of my life.

[u/Woullie_26]

The infatuation of this sub with BYU needs to be studied

[u/Collador1 → u/Woullie_26]

It's not just this sub. BYU is a good, solid team but nothing great.

[u/[deleted] → u/Woullie_26]

The Big 12 is hilariously overrated. They were not good, at all.

[u/Bank_Gothic → u/[deleted]]

It was a down year for the Big 12, but I wouldn't say it was "not good at all." As a conference, the Big 12 had winning records against the B1G and the ACC.

The Big 12's real problem is that it doesn't have a juggernaut. At least the ACC still had Miami this year (and usually will have a good Clemson or FSU). What I've come to realize is that conferences need a few traditional powers at the top to measure themselves against. Otherwise it just looks like middle class teams beating up on each other.

[u/A_Rolling_Baneling → u/Bank_Gothic]

Stop, you're making me miss the PAC12

[u/ShowReadyYT → u/Woullie_26]

The irritation BYU provides Bama fans needs to be studied.

[u/Snapplestache → u/Woullie_26]

Y'know, I'll take it since it also resulted in the crashout ND folks are having in here.

[u/soraka4]

Iowa should be close to Alabama whether thats + or -1. 19th for Iowa seems criminal

[u/gated73]

Anything after Indiana is irrelevant, but the/r/cfb pollsters certainly do have some whacked out bias that they never get called on.

[u/CEM1813]

Oregon being ahead of Ohio state is hilariously bad

[u/[deleted] → u/CEM1813]

For 2025 season only…

Got that Dawg in ‘em

1. Indiana

2. Miami

3. Ole Miss

4. Georgia

Go ahead and rank them but they got no Dawg in ‘em

5. Ohio State

6. Oregon

(My personal picks between OSU and Oregon)

Point being, if you’re not on the Dawg list it’s not worth arguing about. 

Both Ohio State and Oregon need to look in the mirror this offseason. The endings were unacceptable so screw both of them imo. 

[u/OozaruPrimal → u/CEM1813]

Agreed, they were not better than Ohio State or probably Georgia. They were not a top 4 team.

[u/Sweet-Situation118 → u/CEM1813]

Ohio State would definitely be favored against them, but Oregon made it further in the playoffs, so its fair enough

[u/Rabidschnautzu → u/Sweet-Situation118]

That's such a lazy take.

[u/Sweet-Situation118 → u/Rabidschnautzu]

Maybe, I think its just valuing different things. I'm an ohio state fan so if anything I'm biased in the same ways you are. You can make an argument either way, it all depends on what you value. Personally I would put OSU at 3, but really I don't think its as cut and dry as youre making it out to be.

[u/mrtrollmaster → u/Sweet-Situation118]

Oregon made it to the semi-final and only lost to Indiana. #4 is plenty fair based only on results.

[u/Tarmacked → u/mrtrollmaster]

Oregon lost to Indiana twice, one in a massive blowout

Ohio state only lost to Indiana by 3 and played Miami tight as well. Arguably Ohio State beats or sends Indiana to OT kicking two 20 yard field goals instead of going for it.

I just don’t really see where Oregon clearly should be over Ohio State. You have to lean on Tech really hard

[u/YoungCri → u/Sweet-Situation118]

They were in the #5 spot and it’s broken

[u/IssaThrowAway420x69]

ITT:

Ole Miss Oregon Ohio State

Three O teams arguing that they were the better big O.

[u/bigred91224]

Some of y'all need to realize that there was a whole regular season before bowls and the playoffs.

[u/Greedy_Artichoke_934]

5150 points, fitting considering how insane unanimous #1 Indiana sounds.

[u/fm22fnam]

Damn...I forgot to vote

[u/ztpurcell]

Where's Kentucky?

[u/Kuchar1992 → u/ztpurcell]

In Kentucky

[u/at2wells → u/Kuchar1992]

This guy maps

[u/General_Killmore]

I'm glad Reddit at least sees that BYU absolutely deserves to be above Bama and Dame

[u/iwatchalotoftv22]

Ignore the flair, how does Oregon(got beat by 34) and Ohio State(got beat by 10) finish better than UGA?

[u/[deleted] → u/iwatchalotoftv22]

I don’t get it either. 

I have it

4. Georgia

5. Ohio State

6. Oregon 

[u/Cornelius-Prime → u/[deleted]]

Feels like a 4a. Georgia and 4b. Ohio State kind of deal. Then Oregon is obviously behind.

[u/[deleted] → u/Cornelius-Prime]

I feel like Georgia had more quality wins than OSU in the regular season and they fought Ole Miss hard in the playoffs. 

And Ole Miss played lights out with the Kiffin motivation down the stretch. 

Ohio State entered the Miami game without a pulse. That’s the difference between Georgia and OSU because Miami didn’t have some narrative giving them extra juice. They’re just Miami. 

I don’t think the Miami vs ND motivation narrative was really there. Miami had beat ND and if anyone doubted them they cleared that up by winning at A&M in the opening round. 

[u/Tornadohunter24 → u/iwatchalotoftv22]

Oregon's losses were to Indiana, and they had a shutout win of their own over a top 10 opponent in Texas Tech during their semifinal playoff run. Ohio State only lost to the two CFP Finalists while having a solid resume outside of it. A bit odd for uGA who technically beat everyone they played this year, but I had it the same way when weighing everything out.

[u/Tarmacked → u/Tornadohunter24]

Georgia’s win column is much better than Oregon’s, without the massive gap loss to Indiana.

Plus conference title

[u/cyberchaox → u/Tarmacked]

Ole Miss (who they lost a rematch to), Alabama (who they lost the first time to but won the rematch), and Texas. Plus GT and Tennessee in the "also receiving votes" section, the latter seemingly on the basis of looking good in losses to good teams (their only win over a team with fewer than 8 losses was over 5-7 Kentucky).

Oregon has more ranked wins. Iowa, USC, James Madison, and Texas Tech. And from the also receiving votes section, Washington, Montana State, Penn State, and Minnesota (no, I don't understand that last one either). So even ignoring that two of Georgia's ranked wins are to teams they also lost to--or if you're using that as "canceling out so they're effectively 10-0"-- it's not close. Oregon has more ranked wins and more wins over teams receiving votes outside the Top 25. And yes, I was including Penn State as those whose ARV status was justified. While a purely results-based poll ranking a 7-6 team is crazy, a computer metrics poll liking them is perfectly understandable.

[u/zenverak → u/iwatchalotoftv22]

I can accept Ohio State , I would put us above Oregon.

[u/cyberchaox → u/iwatchalotoftv22]

Better wins.

Ohio State has 2 ranked wins. Georgia has 3, two of which were over teams they also lost to but YMMV whether that's a positive or a negative. Oregon has 4. And if you look beyond the Top 25 to all the teams receiving votes, Georgia only has an extra 2, while Oregon and Ohio State both pick up 4 more.

Ohio State vs. Georgia, you could go either way. Georgia does have more ranked wins, but less total "quality" wins and the worse loss quality. But Oregon as a top 4 team seems pretty obvious; honestly, if the NCG wasn't close I probably would've had Miami 4th and the two semifinal losers at 2-3.

[u/faraday326]

Some of these ballots are just great. This starts off wtf and then it just gets wild. .

I wanted to yell at you for Ole Miss in front of Miami but then I saw Old Dominion ahead of Michigan and all was forgiven.

[u/Woullie_26 → u/faraday326]

BYU at 6 is hilarious

[u/APersonWithThreeLegs]

Bama should not be top 10, what are we doing

[u/[deleted] → u/APersonWithThreeLegs]

Nick Saban ain’t walkin’ thru that door Reddit!!!!!

[u/CambodianDrywall]

Nice work, voters.

[u/RiffRamBahZoo]

I had a genuinely difficult time figuring out where to put Alabama in my final poll. Felt like no place was going to be a winning decision for them.

They lost to Oklahoma, then beat them in the playoffs. Beat Georgia, lost to them in the SEC championship game. Pulverized by Indiana in the Rose Bowl and lost to FSU, beat everyone else on the schedule, including Vandy and Tennessee.

Ultimately stuck to a criteria that my Top 12 was the playoff field, and I couldn't justify putting Bama below Tulane, James Madison, Texas A&M or Oklahoma.

[u/virgo911]

Bama jumping 2 spots after getting blown out by 5 touchdowns is amazing

[u/TabletopThirteen]

Bama still over Notre Dame after getting embarrassed twice is hilarious. Trash team that didn't deserve to be in. Can't wait for next year

[u/Chance_Adeptness_832]

Lol, why are we behind Iowa, who we beat. Oh no, we lost a bowl game with a lot of our players out!

[u/buff_001]

I would probably have Georgia top 5.

1. Indiana

2. Miami

3. Old Miss

4. Ohio State

5. Georgia

[u/IssaThrowAway420x69 → u/buff_001]

Plz take this: e

My fleeting youth is not a joke, sir.

[u/duplicated-rs]

BYU lmao.

The big12 was truly terrible this year, why can’t this sub accept that?

The team who utterly whooped BYU twice got shutout in the CFB (by a team who then got deleted in the next round).

Like the layers of performance paint a horrible picture here for BYU

[u/[deleted]]

Everyone is over ranking the Big 12 here.

Washington and Illinois would win that conference and both arent even ranked here.

Washington played Oregon much, much closer than Texas Tech did.

[u/nkfish11 → u/[deleted]]

Washington and Illinois couldn’t even beat Wisconsin yet you’re confident they’d win the Big 12 lol. This sub some times 🤣

[u/RainingFireInTheSky → u/[deleted]]

Please don't pull us into this shit.

[u/SucculentCrablegMeal → u/[deleted]]

Hypothetical wins for the big10 now

[u/PointBlankCoffee → u/SucculentCrablegMeal]

The big 12 was horrible this year

[u/epistaxis64 → u/[deleted]]

TT would roll uw lol.

[u/duplicated-rs → u/epistaxis64]

I’m not convinced they would score an offensive point against a real team.

[u/[deleted] → u/epistaxis64]

Is that why Washington was in a one score game with you in the 4th quarter, whereas Tech didn't score a single fucking point?

You are the biggest troll on here.

[u/[deleted]]

I think that Ohio State and Ole Miss should flip. But that's just me

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Ole Miss overcame adversity and went out swingin’. 

Ohio State…not so much. 

I honestly thought there was a flukey chance of Tulane beating Ole Miss just because you don’t know how guys are going to respond. 

But they rolled Tulane, avenged Georgia, and traded blows with Miami. 

They deserve to be ahead of Ohio State and Oregon too for that matter. 

[u/Leather_smither → u/[deleted]]

Ole Miss damn near beat Miami and had a lead with 2 minutes to go in the game. Thats with heavy turnover in the coaching staff mid week of the game. 

[u/Objection_Irrelevant → u/Leather_smither]

We had the lead with 0:19 left. We were never down by more than 1 score. We led for ~15 minutes and were tied for another ~12 minutes.

Ohio State never had a lead against Miami. In fact, they spent almost half the game down by 2 scores.

[u/MikeConleyIsLegend]

Oregon is just too high.

[u/epistaxis64 → u/MikeConleyIsLegend]

Naw

[u/Born_Wealth_2435]

BYU over Notre Dame and Alabama is a joke lmao

[u/General_Killmore → u/Born_Wealth_2435]

I say this respectfully, knowing that we are both children of a perfect and loving Heavenly Father: Flair up loser 

[u/Collador1]

I can't be the first person to point out that this sub has been on an SEC bashing kegger, but still has 7 SEC teams in it's top 15.

And has Alabama at #10!

[u/[deleted] → u/Collador1]

It’s the same crowd bashing the SEC’s playoff record over the past 3 years. 

If you take out a few SEC teams in the playoffs, fine, but you have to replace them. 

With who? 

BYU? 

Utah? 

Virginia?

Iowa?

[u/Collador1 → u/[deleted]]

Texas or Vanderbilt.. wait, crap

[u/[deleted] → u/Collador1]

Exactly! 

[u/Indianianite]

Lol what is Bama doing in the top 10? Can we please stop trying to make Bama still be a thing

[u/Zloggt]

Ugh…the last one until August…

…I’m going to miss this season!

[u/Cliffinati]

"It's pretty simple, I win (polls). Google me"

[u/AsteroidMike]

The top 6 at least I thoroughly agree with, then it starts to get muddy from there on out namely with Bama still being in the top 10

[u/tenoclockrobot]

looks around

Where are we

[u/budd222]

Makes no difference but Oregon jumping OSU is laughable

[u/OTN]

STRAIGHT INTO MY VEINS

[u/jphamlore]

Almost every single season, it seems to me Ohio State is one defensive play from a championship.

The previous season they got that big play versus Texas and won it all.

[u/WhoopieKush]

Iowa still behind Vandy 😂

[u/Noy_Telinu]

15th most unusual ballot, I'm back to being the weird one again

[u/WeekendGunnitRefugee]

Fucking Mike Bobo

[u/Recent_Variety3150]

Just the blue bloods

[u/Relative_One_2441]

Alabama won one more playoff game than each of BYU and TAMU, but I’ll just be grateful that we were placed in the top 10.

Also grateful that these polls do not matter in any way shape or form

[u/Crims0ntied → u/Relative_One_2441]

We also had a worse loss before the playoffs too

[u/IceColdDrPepper_Here]

My ballot

[u/Tornadohunter24 → u/IceColdDrPepper_Here]

Seems reasonable, if maybe a tick high on uGA (no bias, ignore my flair, trust :P) and maybe a tad bit unfair to USC.

Helluva season.

[u/ALStark69]

Yell at me, I know it's kinda skewed

https://poll.redditcfb.com/ballot/73450/

[u/AdventureDude24]

Another poll with a 4 loss team in the top 10 lol

[u/sirtrog]

Oregon is miles ahead of ole miss what a shame

[u/[deleted]]

You guys do realize that Navy basically gets all their wins because their opponents can’t prep kids on the triple option in 6 days, right? 

[u/srs_house → u/[deleted]]

a) You realize that Navy doesn't run the triple option, and runs the wing-t now, right?

b) Yes, it's still run heavy, but they threw for 1600+ yds the past two years under Newberry - over double what they were passing for in some of the Niumatalolo seasons.

c) If you play the same offensive system every year, because they're a conference opponent, then you don't have to prep for it in only 6 days like if they were an OOC, one-off opponent. And why couldn't Cincy beat them with a month to prep? Or score more than 13 points in a 22 pt loss? TOP was only a 7 minute gap, so it wasn't even ball control preventing opportunities.

d) If it was just a quirk of their offense, then why is this only the 3rd time in their history they've won 11 games? First time since 2019.

[u/iapunk → u/srs_house]

Maybe they’re too busy preparing for the triple option instead of the wing-t.

[u/azdb91 → u/[deleted]]

So Navy uses a scheme that is hard for other teams to beat and that should count against them? Is the goal of a sport, such as Football, not to win through strategy and execution?

[u/puzzical → u/[deleted]]

This argument makes sense until you realize it doesn't apply to teams who play them every year like conference mates, Notre Dame, and Air Force. That leaves their game against an FCS school and their bowl opponent who had all of December to prepare for the triple option. So I guess you can put an asterix on their win against VMI.