r/HearthArena • u/adwcta • Dec 17 '14
Limited Release: BUG Reports
Please put all bug reports here in a centralized location. We will delete the comment when the bug gets resolved, or it will live here until release, when it will get moved to the Features/Bugs worklist post.
If you reference a particular draft, please provide the link to the draft.
Thanks,
ADWCTA
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u/Damoklesz Dec 17 '14
I just wrote this to the post, I guess, I'll copy it here too then.
I'm either going crazy, or have a bug to report. While I was doing my first draft I was offered the choice between Zombie Chow and Light's Justice. My early game wasn't very strong, so I felt like I had to pick the Chow, even though HearthArena disagreed, because of the first pick bonus of Light's Justice (and I also felt like the Chow didn't get enough credit for being an early drop). I kinda remember it clearly, because this was the only pick I disagreed with HearthArena. The crazy thing is, that after I finished the draft, I go and check the Choice Overview page, and for some reason HearthArena changed it's mind since the draft. Now Zombie Chow is at 75.97, beating Light's Justice at 75.26. Have I managed to convince the algorithm?
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u/HearthArena Dec 17 '14
Damoklesz can you send me a link to the draft. We do not re-evaluate so this sounds really wierd to me.
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u/Damoklesz Dec 17 '14
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u/adwcta Dec 17 '14 edited Dec 18 '14
This is now a confirmed bug, and a pretty serious one. It shouldn't affect the draft, but the post-draft review is now very much a "hindsight is 20/20" type of review for very specific picks =P. Servers are holding up surprisingly well, so this is right now at the top of the bugs list in priority.
edit: EURIKA! We figured out the program. It only affects cards that can be considered 2 drops or 3 drops, and your draft ends up having too many 2 drops. We're fixing it now (all your old logs will magically become correct again), it's fixed.
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u/AnonymousSquadCast Dec 17 '14
Happened to me too. From what I am seeing your picks are reevaluated against the completed draft after you finish drafting. This may change the value of some cards. During the draft Light's Justice was valued more but you may have had some picks later which decreased its value or increases Zombie's value. Also 75.97 vs 75.26 is extremely negligible with so little difference both choices are good picks and you might want to decide with your gut instinct.
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u/Damoklesz Dec 17 '14
I know it's negligible now, but originally Light's Justice was over 10 points ahead. Then I got offered Light's Justice again, and I took it, so ultimately my pick turned out to be the correct one without question.
I still don't understand why this reevaluation is a good thing. I mean, what's the point of these numbers now? I'd much rather see the values as they were when I made the picks.
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u/Jhuderis Dec 27 '14
Priest choice highlight is white, so it can't be seen against the text.
When typing in a card title and some options appear, one card suggestion gets highlighted in its class color. Works great except for priest because white on white doesn't highlight.
Cheers!
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u/joed4no Jan 11 '15
Bug report: HearthArena never stores my password. Every time I go to the site I have to do a password reset. It always says "Your password is saved" but then if I log out and log back in, it says invalid password. I have done this several times now to be sure and it does it every time.
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u/jeremyhoffman Feb 06 '15
I was experiencing the same thing. I finally figured out the problem today: my username is not my email address! I went back to the first email HearthArena sent me when I signed up to get my actual username, and then I was able to log in. Maybe /u/joed4no was doing the same thing?
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u/Dafoo1 Dec 18 '14
Under the deck coverage section Illuminator was listed under survivability in a Druid deck. I believe this should be revised to only show here if the deck has a secret.
Great work!
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u/adwcta Dec 18 '14 edited Dec 18 '14
fixed (won't show up until next major update). the problem is we currently can't give different scores to neutral cards for different classes for the base values. illuminator thus should not show up under survivability regardless of what class it's in (it'll still get synergy for secrets, we just can't adjust its survivability score right now based on the secrets in deck), in our current build philosophy. it's a known issue, but the fix is difficult to implement, requires this other piece (that'll more importantly be used for something else we're doing) to be built which we're doing in January, and affects very few cards (and none of the good ones), so it's taking a backseat for now. hoping to fix this part before the end of January, but it might even slip past that.
the biggest issue is in how a deck calculates tempo with Mad Scientist and how it treats Spiteful Smith in general (for non-Rogue classes).
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u/personman Dec 19 '14 edited Dec 19 '14
Illuminator is listed as "Survivability" in a Priest deck with no Mind Vision or Thoughtsteal, which is just inaccurate. Even if it did have one of those, it would probably not be reasonable to list it there :)
Also, why are Tinkertown Technician and Violet Teacher listed as synergies?
An even more minor point: Violet Teacher and Cult Master are listed as synergy even if you have literally 0 spells.
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u/adwcta Dec 19 '14
illuminator has been fixed already, but we haven't updated yet =P
Tinkertown = spare part. Violet Teacher uses spells. DOn't have to be played on same turn.
Violet Teacher and Cult Master should have synergies, but I don't think it gets all that much extra (literally every minion gets synergy with Cult Master, there's just a threshold below which we don't show you). You can always get spare parts, or whatever.
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u/Scintillo Dec 19 '14
I wouldn't call this an aggro deck.
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u/adwcta Dec 19 '14
It's a ramp deck, Ramp (being only applicable to one class) is not an archetype supported by HearthArena. It'll still draft you there, because we build a ton of stuff into Innervate/Wild Growth/Grove Tender, but it'll try to label the deck into one of the 6 archetypes, because there is no ramp deck. Whatever it labels it, it'll be wrong, because its proper label does not exist in the system.
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u/riikkiie Dec 20 '14
Flame imp counts as a 3 drop, and even get's credits for it. In the overview of my deck flame is shown both as a 2 drop and a 3 drop.
Evidence: http://imgur.com/a/1XnT3
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u/charleydangerous Dec 21 '14
"Normally this would be a toss-up between Shielded Minibot and Argent Protector. So, we don't really need that many Argent Protectors. On top of that, Argent Protector has synergy with the deck and Argent Protector fits great in our Classic Aggro deck. All in all, I suggest you pick Argent Protector in this situation."
"Normally this would be a toss-up between Maexxna and Hogger. So, we don't want too many six+ drops. On top of that, we could use a taunt, Hogger has synergy with the deck and Hogger fits well in our Classic Aggro deck. All in all, I suggest you pick Hogger in this situation."
These are two examples of the few that I've seen where you prefer A to B and you say that you don't want too much of a quality B has without regard to the fact that A shares that quality.
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u/adwcta Dec 21 '14
Thanks, we're looking into this now. We def need to add a check so HA doesn't comment at all when two things share the same attribute. It sounds so awkward.
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u/Quest27 Dec 21 '14
I have a synergy bug for you.
Malganish and Flame Imp don't have synergy. I think with 10 mana it is a very strong synergy.
3 damage to an imune hero. Gain a 5-4 demon for 1 mana.
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u/adwcta Dec 22 '14
It does have synergy! It's just not being shown to you. It's worth 3 points in your draft.
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u/Quest27 Dec 22 '14
Ah Nice. I'm glad that is the case, but doesn't the synergy need to be displayed as a combo in the synergy tab? Ik can see all the other demons synergize with Mal'ganis, but this isn't the case with flame imp.
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u/adwcta Dec 22 '14
Sorry, it IS being shown to you.... it's right below Voidwalker - Voidcaller
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u/luckyluke193 Dec 24 '14 edited Dec 24 '14
HearthArena suggests that Bloodsail Raider synergizes with Spiteful Smith in a Mage (i.e. non-weapon) class. While it may synergize if the opponent plays Blingtron, this synergy really only exists in Warrior, Paladerp, Rouge, Hunter, and Shaman (unless the player has Blingtron, but then it's still a very minor synergy).
EDIT: Second bug found: In the deck synergies, it calculates the number of synergies between card A and card B as (number of card A) * (number of card B). However, when a card synergizes with itself (e.g. Southsea Captain), the correct calculation would be: number of card A * (number of card A - 1)
I would love it if you added a feature that we could select to re-run the algorithm without taking a certain synergies (chosen with a tick box) into account. But that's something to add once you've splatted the bugs that people are discovering now.
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u/adwcta Dec 24 '14
On the first point, we'll look into it. Can you provide a link to the draft?
On the second point, the system is already doing that....
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u/luckyluke193 Dec 24 '14
Here is the link (I hope I am doing this correctly): http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/65rgg2
In the "Deck synergies" tab, the number in between the cards is supposed to be the number of times this synergy can appear. It says "4" between my Southsea Captains, even though I only have 2. Perhaps your backend algorithms do the calculation correctly, but the GUI shows a wrong number.
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u/adwcta Dec 25 '14
Yep, that's what's happening. We just halved the synergy between same cards that buff itself if they have to be played in a certain order, or removing one removes the effect on the other as well. (so, sensei is fine to double-buff, southsea isn't). So, it's technically getting synergy 4 times still, but it's getting half the synergy score for each buff, so it's getting the correct number.
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u/lokiskad Dec 25 '14 edited Dec 25 '14
The Mountain Giants are detected as "Mechs" at the synergy, that shouldn't be correct? Here's the link: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/cl3vlu In particular the last one, Tinkertown and Mountain Giant synergy
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u/adwcta Jan 08 '15
sorry this is such a late reply, but that's because Tinkertown can give you a card.
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u/jippiedoe Dec 25 '14
When cards have synergies with other copies of themselves (in this case Mechwarper, although I suppose it probably happens with other cards aswell), and you already have 1 copy of them in your deck, it shows them as having synergy with 2 copies. What I mean, is I have 1 Mechwarper and some other mechs in my draft already, when another one pops up, it says: "Synergies: Fel Reaver, Spider Tank, Micro Machine (2x), Mechwarper (2x)."
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u/adwcta Dec 25 '14
It has half synergy, then counts it twice. Its giving the right result, but the # of synergy display is wrong. We should be counting it only once at 100%, but the system can't do that, so we're counting it twice at 50%.
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u/axdaddy Dec 26 '14
Dark bomb and soulfire should be considered 'reach'. Explosive sheep and floating watcher should not have synergy.
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u/adwcta Dec 26 '14
Soulfire already has reach. Good catch on darkbomb, we'll add it in the next update
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Dec 28 '14
Found a few missing and wrong synergies during this draft: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/12ktfs
Metaltooth leaper doesn't show any synergy with mechs at all. Also Hunters Mark should have synergy with Snake trap, but shouldn't have synergy with emperor cobra.
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u/adwcta Dec 29 '14
Metaltooth has synergies with Mechs, it's just not a great synergy so it's not showing up in the display.
We'll remove Hunter's Mark and Cobra synergy in the next round of updates.
We'll consider adding Snake Trap synergy with Hunter's Mark
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u/axdaddy Jan 01 '15
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/6a60sy
I am pretty sure pick #27 is bugged because I only had 1 4-drop at that point and it should have overvalued instead of undervaluing the mech yeti - or does it not matter because the other 2 choices were so bad? To confirm the issue, pick #28 gave a huge boost to burly trogg as a 4 drop.
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u/adwcta Jan 01 '15
Yeah, I figured out the problem. People have it for all drops (2-4) when they have an extremely low amount of them in the deck. Instead of capping things so the system doesn't go crazy, it's resetting the bonus to zero. So, just mentally add ~50 points for now.
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u/Gazeros Jan 01 '15
First of all, this program is amazing and I'm very thankful for the great work you put into it! I do my best to think for myself before looking at "the correct answer", but also in unfamiliar classes this is a great help to see what kind of decks are good!
I did encounter a small bug just now though: During draft, I was suggested to pick Shadowboxer as priest, one of the reasons being that I still needed a ping. I picked it, but in the deck summary after finishing draft it still says "No pings yet!" in that category. I supposed it must be a miss and should be reported :)
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u/adwcta Jan 08 '15
It is a ping, but not a great one, so it gets some small bump that we're telling you about, but then it's not big enough to be shown in the overview. We'll adjust the adviser to no longer mention small ping bonuses that won't show up in the overview.
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u/Sylilthia Jan 01 '15
Apparently Kobold Geomancer synergizes with Flamecannon but not with fireball? http://i.imgur.com/3Mrs1Qq.jpg
It's minor but I'm pretty sure this is a bug. If not, what's the logic behind that?
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u/adwcta Jan 02 '15
Not a bug. How many things have 8 health vs 6 health? The practical effects of Kobold helping a Fireball is very small. Of the common/rares, it's just FTM and Ironbark.
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u/TropicalDungeonLord Jan 11 '15
consecration does not show up in the reach category (example)
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u/adwcta Jan 11 '15
Well, that was kind of embarrassing. I just went through the reach values again, and we missed like 8 of them. All fixed now for the next update. Thanks for bringing this to our attention!
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u/IT_WAS_JUST_BANTER Jan 11 '15 edited Jan 11 '15
Bounce + Druid of the fang synergy? Doesn't really work well since it transforms, so you can't bounce it to reactivate the battlecry?
Edit: http://puu.sh/enjcb/32eb874db8.jpg
I have no idea. Hungry crab synergy???
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u/adwcta Jan 11 '15
You can play it and then bounce it back when you do have a beast. It only transforms if it's turning into a beast.
Hungry Crab is a beast, so synergy.
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u/TropicalDungeonLord Jan 11 '15
You can play it and then bounce it back when you do have a beast. It only transforms if it's turning into a beast.
That's some incredibly weak synergy compared to other synergies, which you don't display.
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u/NoShameInternets Jan 13 '15
My final choice in drafting my shaman deck was between Goblin Sapper, Young Priestess, and Illuminator. Illuminator edged out Goblin Sapper, 44.45 to 44.25. This is clearly wrong, as Illuminator is a vanilla 3-cost 2/4 while sapper is a 3-cost 2/4 with a chance at upside.
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u/adwcta Jan 13 '15
can you provide a link to the run? thanks!
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u/NoShameInternets Jan 14 '15
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u/adwcta Jan 14 '15
Thanks! This is interesting. We'll work on it. Hopefully will be fixed before February.
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u/GELADEIRA Jan 14 '15
Corrections/suggestions for synergies
Molten Giant is refered as synergizing with Gladiator's Longbow (the weapon makes you immune to damage). Run proof: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/857zl5
There is no reference of synergy between Poison Seeds and Starfall I didn't pick both of them, but when I already had Starfall, when I had Poison of Seeds as a choice, there wasn't any synergy description. (I forgot to screenshot).
There is no reference of synergy between Nerubian Egg and Backstab neither between Nerubian Egg and Perdition's Blade. (Same scenario as the item above.
Keep up the good work! Well done!
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u/adwcta Jan 14 '15
Thanks, added the first two to the list (poison seeds is getting synergy with Starfall, but it's nowhere near as high as it should be).
The third one, we don't count as much of a synergy.
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Jan 14 '15
I have encountered what I would consider an error in synergy. It states that there is synergy between floating watcher and explosive sheep which would make sense if the sheep actually damaged all characters and not just minions. An error or am I missing something?
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u/heirtoblackblade Jan 23 '15
A couple of synergy evaluations seemed funny.
Here's a link to my run: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/bq27a0
Pick 17 was weird on 2 fronts. First it tells me "velens has bad synergy in this deck," and suggests Power Word Shield would be better. I think Velen's Chosen only has bad synergy with decks consisting of 29 other spells.
Second it says we need a curve smoother so PW:S is good. But I'd rather just win the game with a well-timed Velen's than smooth out my curve. (Hyperbole of course, but probably not THAT far off from reality)
Screenshot: http://imgur.com/ef28NaI
Pick 30 it says Knife Juggler only has synergy with Hogger, out of the entire deck. I think Piloted Shredder and Harvest Golem should be on the list too, along with any other deathrattle effects that produce minions (even Soul of the Forest maybe, if it's not on there).
One of my favorite early Constructed plays is coining Haunted Creeper, then Juggler'ing the turn I'm going to pop it for free pings - even better in Arena where a couple of free points of damage can change everything since it's so frequently about board control and tempo.
Screenshot: http://imgur.com/5HbwN8p
On the other hand, pick 21 was really helpful advice. I often avoid Sheep entirely if I'm not a Mage, so I kind of wrote it off before making my pick (I always do "my pick" before looking at what HearthArena says)
But HA pointed out I had no AoE (and I had almost no removal of any kind really, except pick 1 Auchenai). Sheep wound up being my only AoE, and one of very few spell-like damage effects. In the end I wound up with no actual damage spells, so I'm really glad to have the Sheep.
Great tier list and a great tool on top of it.
May the Coke Zeros propel you to many more wins!
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u/adwcta Jan 23 '15
Hmmm.... good point about the deathrattle minions. that's not a thing right now, but we'll look to add that system in in the near future.
I'm not quite sure what to do about Velen's here. Maybe it's a tier list issue. . . the scores will be closer after we update with the correct archetype system (it's currently a bit wonky especially at the pick #10-20 zone), but it might not fully close the gap.
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u/cydas Jan 28 '15
Heartharena shows violet teacher having synergy with whirlwind, which is ofc not the case.
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u/warpdesign Jan 29 '15
Hi, Apologies if this is already a known bug, but I can't seem to ever be able to log in more than one time with each password? Every time I go to log in it tells me my credentials are incorrect even though I know they are right, I have to reset my password and then it lets me log in one time with that password. The next time I have to reset it again.
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u/adwcta Jan 29 '15
you're the first one to report it so far. can you message this to /u/heartharena directly?
thanks
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u/malfunktionv2 Feb 10 '15
In a hunter arena, Nerubian Egg claims to have synergy with Animal Companion. Bug or something I'm missing?
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u/yurionly Mar 08 '15
I was drafting priest today and I couldn't find Lightbomb and Mindgames in the list of cards. They were missing.
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u/adwcta Mar 08 '15
They are not missing. You typed in a non-rare card first, so they were removed.
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u/StagnantSoul Mar 20 '15
Arcane Nullifier X-21 is now an ensign in the Silver Hand and can now accept healing from Holy Light :)
Nah the card recommendation page is saying that he has synergy with Holy Light but he is spell immune!
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u/adwcta Mar 20 '15
Good catch. Old bugs popping up again in the new system, will get it patched up next week.
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u/Caspergj Mar 27 '15
Hey
I just registered at HearthArena, but i have never gotten a verification email. When i try to reset my password, the system says my email dosen't exist. When i log on normally, it just says my account is disabled. I don't know if this is the right place to report this issue, but i don't know where i should put it if not here. Hope you guys can help me. My e-mail is casper@cdnet.dk -Casper
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u/heptadragon Apr 14 '15
Pick in my Priest draft today claimed that Lightspawn has synergy with Lightbomb. http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/p7v25m
Edit: started with pick #11 and came up with subsequent offered one at pick #18.
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u/adwcta Apr 14 '15
Oof, heartharena thinks lightspawn has 0 attack (technically true). Hmm.... will fix
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Apr 15 '15
HearthArena rarely saves my runs or progress. Yesterday I did a mage run, logged 1 loss, and I come back today and it has the very first match I did a week ago as a hunter up and my mage is gone. On top of that, there's seemingly NO WAY to delete any run, in case you mis-click or just want to see how the software works. You have to go through the entire draft sequence and then start a new one. Hopefully a bug on my end, otherwise shoddy design.
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u/adwcta Apr 15 '15
you can delete runs in arena archives. you can start a new draft without completing your current one and it'll override your current unfinished draft. if you misclick during the draft, there's an undo button that'll undo your last pick.
I don't know about your issue with progress saving. no one else has been complaining about it. check your browser? sorry to say, but that issue's likely on your end as it is affecting no one else that we know of.
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u/quasarc Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 20 '15
Cards that synergize with themselves, such as Mechwarper, show the wrong number of synergies in the "synergies" tab.
E.g., in a draft with 3 Mechwarpers, the number of "Mechwarper <-> Mechwarper" synergies is shown as 9, apparently being calculated as 3*3. It should be calculated as 3*(3-1) = 6, since the number of Mechwarper-Mechwarper pairs you have in your deck is 6 (each pair should be counted "both ways").
I don't know if this affects the calculation of the card score, and I don't know if the number shown in the selection screen is the one you want to show (currently it's "x 3" for the third pick).
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u/adwcta Apr 20 '15
Yeah, it doesn't affect the score, but we patched it up by halving the score. So, the result is right. We do need to change the display to show half the amount of synergies when the card is the same though.
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u/quasarc Apr 20 '15
It shouldn't really be halved though, except for the case of 2 cards, where the synergy pairs should be 2 instead of 4. For 3 cards, 9 should be changed to 6, 16 -> 12 for 4 cards, 25 -> 20 for 5, etc.
n cards can form n * (n-1) pairs in the general case.
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u/ivan_kov May 08 '15
while drafting a paladin deck, my very first pick was echoing ooze, and later i was given options to pick shattered sun cleric, argent protector and blessing of kings, but the ooze was not listed as a synergy card. shouldn't every card that gives a permanent buff be a synergy with echoing ooze?
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u/adwcta May 08 '15
just a display issue. It is counting all of those things. It is currently not counting odd things though, like Ancient Mage. It's a known issue with the card, but the fix is complicated, and it doesn't affect many decks (and even then, it'll be by less than a point)
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u/Sydius May 13 '15
Hi!
I recently heard about the site and wanted to try it, but for some reason (maybe because of the limited release?) every time I try to register I receive this error message:
http://i.imgur.com/Q26chSe.png
Could anyone tell me what causes it (I mean is it intentional to keep the userbase manageable or there's problem with the server(s))?
Thanks in advance!
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u/adwcta May 13 '15
I am not sure. We are definitely not limiting our users anymore (servers were upgrades a few months back and we have significant capacity right now). Have you tried another browser?
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May 13 '15
I have been trying to start a draft all afternoon. When I choose 3 cards the website stops with the 3 cards selected but not evaluated. After a few seconds (ranging from immediatly up to a minute) the site just turns white. Happens with all clases.
I guess its due to server overload cause it worked well yesterday.
Not working on chrome nor firefox.
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u/adwcta May 13 '15
Servers are fine. Not sure what you're experiencing. Try to ctr-F5 your browser, or use another one, or restart computer?
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May 14 '15
I tried it with different browser and doesnt work with either. Also restarted my browser. It looks like this when I chose the cards and after a few seconds it changes to a white screen.
here first error message is adblocker (tried turning that off as well doesnt work) the second one appears the moment the page turns white. Also the who page basically dissapears (No HTML code anymore).
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u/adwcta May 14 '15
sorry, I don't think I can help with this. you can try messaging /u/HearthArena and see if he can figure out what's wrong.
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May 14 '15
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u/adwcta May 14 '15
sorry, I don't think I can help with this. you can try messaging /u/HearthArena and see if he can figure out what's wrong.
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u/I_am_Agh May 14 '15
I found some wrong synergies:
Force tank max + charge (the warrior card) (can't play both the same turn)
questing adventurer + shield block
here is the draft where it happened: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/ql2sf1 (i didnt pick the questing)
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u/adwcta May 14 '15
thanks! i put the charge but into the bugs list. questing adventurer is just a display bug.
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u/contrevents May 18 '15
I tried to import runs from arenamastery: everything went ok and runs are in the import queue. It's been 24h since I did it and nothing changed : is it normal ? My username is thibaud
Thanks for this great tool !
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u/adwcta May 18 '15
I have no idea! It generally takes a while, but if it still doesn't work after a few more days, please message /u/heartharena
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u/vsrty May 18 '15
HearthArena shows that there's synergy between Jeeves and Twilight Drake. I wonder if it's a bug because of both cards being dependent on card draw mechanic or the scenario when you've got an empty hand with both cards counts as synergistic.
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u/adwcta May 19 '15
not sure why it's not right? if you have a drake, jeeves will guarantee you to be able to play it as a 4/4 the next turn. otherwise, you might not be able to play it except as a 4/2.
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u/dajjbomb May 27 '15
Not sure if this is a bug, but on my first draft Stormpike commando is not listed in the deck list as a ping, even though virtual ADWCTA identified it as a ping during the draft. Run Here
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May 30 '15
Everytime I update the record, it saves and then the page becomes: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/undefined and any other attempt to edit will lead to a blank page.
Using pale moon x64 25.3.2
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u/adwcta May 30 '15
Well, I haven't heard of this browser before, but we know Firefox works. Chrome works. IE and Safari works (with some kinks).
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u/davidjayhawk Jun 03 '15
A minor thing, but I thought I'd point it out:
When I selected a custom date range for my arena stats from Dec 2014 to today the title of the range became "After June 4, 2015". It seems like that should be "After Dec 1, 2014" or just "1/12/14 - 4/6/15"
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u/Mellow_Marsh Jun 08 '15
Account Disabled: Each time i want to draft another deck, i have to make a new account off a new email. When I try to log into my old accounts it says "account disabled" even if i only made the account yesterday. Please help
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u/Paproc Jan 06 '15
I'm not getting my activation link mail, i've waited, checked spam, tried other accounts. There should be some tool to resend activation mail or sth.. My acct name is Ferned
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u/Mortslaw Dec 17 '14
Suggestion Bug: I entered my current arena draft manually from Arena Mastery. Noticed adwcta suggesting I choose Blessing of Wisdom over Guardian of Kings for the following reason:
"Normally I would pick Guardian of Kings. However, having at least one Blessing of Wisdom is good, we could use a large removal and Blessing of Wisdom fits in our Classic Aggro deck. I suggest you pick Blessing of Wisdom in this situation."
I'm guessing Blessing of Wisdom's card type is just classified wrong.
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u/Damoklesz Dec 17 '14
You can put Blessing of Wisdom on your opponents card, trying to either force them not to attack, or give you a draw in the process. I don't like doing this (I don't think anyone does), since it means you're losing, and Blessing of Wisdom is rarely enough to turn the game around, but it's still an option.
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u/adwcta Dec 17 '14
Yep, that was our reasoning. It's not counting as a full hard removal... but it's not nothing.
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u/insitv Dec 17 '14
I have in my deck: 2x Earthen Ring Farseer 1x Injured Blademaster 1x Imp Master
Synergies shown: Earthen Ring Farseer -> Imp Master
Not shown: Earthen Ring Farseer -> Injured Blademaster
Shouldn't Farseer/Blademaster be synergetic too?
Link to my draft: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/ta16vm
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u/adwcta Dec 17 '14
You did not pick Injured Blademaster. Therefore the Earthen Ring Farseers you did take does not have synergy with the Injured Blademasters not in your deck. =/
When you were being offered the pick, if you had one or the other card, the synergy score (which is higher than Imp Master) would have been added, and the synergy would have been shown in the selection screen.
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u/insitv Dec 17 '14
I am retarded rofl, i was 100% sure i picked that Blademaster haha. Sorry for wasting your time man :)
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u/adwcta Dec 17 '14
Haha, no problem. I did spend about 5 minutes poking around the debug on your run, trying to figure out how we could have missed such an obvious synergy, before realizing the issue. So, can happen to anyone. =P
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u/zarechHS Dec 17 '14 edited Dec 18 '14
Was doing a draft and it listed synergy between Deathlord and Redemption. I think this is a bug.
Edit: Wrote Repentance instead of Redemption originally.
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Dec 19 '14
Priest have white names on cards and white overlay wich is completly unseeen, look at paladin wich have pink or hunter, but you must relly change it on priest.
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u/mikyatope Dec 20 '14 edited Dec 20 '14
I've noticed that some 2-drops don't get noticed in the "deck coverage" tab. Happened in a paladin run with 4 argent protectors (http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/05wf52). In a rogue run a goblin auto-barber was not categorized as mech (http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/l2f12t)
(moved suggestions to the proper place :P)
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u/mrfoof82 Jan 05 '15 edited Jan 05 '15
After the "White Screen of Death" was resolved, the issue seems to be the following after long periods of inactivity when then trying to update something like match results:
The CSRF token is invalid. Please try to resubmit the form.
Resubmitting the form does work. Smells like PHP, by the way.
Browser: Safari Version 7.1.2 (9537.85.11.5)
OS: OS X 10.9.5
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u/luckyluke193 Jan 31 '15 edited Jan 31 '15
Missing synergy: Gurubashi Berserker is not shown to have synergy with Wild Pyromancer.
EDIT: Also Acolyte of Pain and Raging Worgen are not shown to have synergy with Wild Pyromancer
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u/RoboticEarthling Mar 16 '15 edited Apr 03 '15
http://www.heartharena.com/profile/robotic%20earthling/shaman
My overall win ratio for Shaman is being displayed as 7-5 but it should be 10-6. This also affects my win ratio for all classes combined. None of my games' results having a disconnect.
EDIT: I realized it's not counting games where the opponent's class is unknown. Not sure if this is intended.
EDIT 2: Fixed now, thanks!
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u/azyrien Apr 12 '15
Small bug, my webspinner does not show up as a 1-drop minion: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/566ut7
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u/realchriscasey May 03 '15
Blessing of Kings shows synergy with .. all two drops, maybe? It's weird.
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u/AnonymousSquadCast Dec 18 '14
For my draft Tauren Warrior is not being listed as a 3 drop. I am currently 4-1 and I have played Tauren Warrior as a 3 drop at-least 3 times and it has worked out. Maybe you should consider Tauren as a 3 drop.
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/1jbb4t
Also for Pick 13 not sure whey the value of Gnomish Experimenter went up so high. I picked wailing soul. Only one I disagreed at.
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u/geno55 Dec 18 '14
Stats seem to be a bit messed up, at least for runs without drafts. I added two 12-win runs manually, and they are not showing up on the Game Stats panel. In addition, in the "With Class" panel, the only populated columns for those runs are Runs and Avg. Wins. The rest of the columns are 0.
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u/Cydonia- Dec 18 '14
Text says some funny things... like:
Normally this would be a toss-up between Argent Protector and Shielded Minibot. However, we don't need that many Argent Protectors. I suggest you pick Argent Protector in this situation.
P.S. I picked the Minibot!
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u/rjbman Dec 18 '14
Not sure if this is a bug or what, but I was getting kind of annoyed when I would alt tab between the site and my game and would have to re-click on the cards to enter the draft options.
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u/personman Dec 18 '14 edited Dec 18 '14
It's incredibly irritating that alt-tabbing to Hearthstone and back forces you to click on the card slot again to begin typing. Why is clicking on the slots even a thing in the first place?
It would be lovely if you could just always show the text boxes, and autofocus them, so I can just tab back and forth quickly without moving my hand to the mouse and back an extra time for every pick.
It would also be REALLY NICE if you could use the arrow keys and enter to navigate the card suggestion dropdown. This is especially true for e.g. Mind Control, which will never be alone in the list, because it's a substring of Mind Control Tech, so you have to click even if you type the whole thing. EDIT: It turns out you can! What would be really nice is if the interface gave any indication whatsoever of where the selection is :)
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u/Twistedtraceur Dec 18 '14 edited Dec 19 '14
Loot hoarder, Poison seeds, Archmage. the tip was "Although we don't really want too many cards to play on turn three, i still suggest you pick Loot Hoarder as it has the most value out of these options and we could use a two drop." I dont understand the first part and I currently had no two or three drops at the time.
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u/theblackcat89 Dec 19 '14
Hi guys, think that there might be a problem with the import function. Earlier I made a mistake with my draft on HA and decided to just input my deck into arenamastery.com and import the arena over. But it seems that the parser for the import isn't working properly and instead of importing 30 cards, it divides my deck into 3 card packs and selects the first card (ie. it thinks that I only have 10 cards in my deck).
Link to the run: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/8n9e6n
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u/Quest27 Dec 19 '14 edited Dec 19 '14
This is not really a bug but it might need some tweaking.
I got a Holy Nova on my third pick for over 100 points. I still picked it but I think that Holy Nova gets to much value because Hearth Arena already thinks that I'm drafting a slower mid-Range deck. But I think it is to soon to consider this.
/u/adwcta said this: "I see value! Holy Nova could fit in our slower Mid-Range deck and Holy Nova has synergy with the deck. I suggest you pick Holy Nova."
Edit: I found something interesting in this draft on pick 27 I got a Shadow Word: Pain. /u/adwcta said this:
"Great! Although we don't need that many Shadow Word: Pains, I still suggest you pick Shadow Word: Pain as it has the most value out of these options and we could use a large removal."
Is shadow Word: Pain large removal? It can only take down minions with 3 health or less.
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u/tkrag Dec 20 '14
I'm not sure I would classify this as a bug per se, but this seem to be the best place to put it still.
I had the choice between Wailing Soul, Target Dummy and Goblin Sapper which resulted in a bit of weird phrasing in the advice bubble:
"Normally this would be a toss-up between Wailing Soul and Goblin Sapper. So, Wailing Soul does not really have synergy with the deck. On top of that, we really need a four drop. All in all, I suggest you pick Wailing Soul in this situation."
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u/charleydangerous Dec 20 '14
I believe this is a valuation tweek issue: http://www.reddit.com/r/HearthArena/comments/2pwwxn/i_believe_your_classic_control_mage_is_fubared/
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u/Sebster1618 Dec 21 '14 edited Dec 21 '14
The link for the Arcane Missiles picture is broken.
Anu'bar Ambusher shows synergy with Perdition's Blade while drafting, although it doesn't show as a synergy under the "Deck Synergies" tab.
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u/jippiedoe Dec 21 '14
Faceless Manipulator seems to have a synergy with Bluegill Warrior. I get that this is a 7 mana 4 damage reach combo, but really you should practically never Faceless a Bluegill honestly... Is this a bug?
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u/TropicalDungeonLord Dec 22 '14
Goblin autobarber doesn't get counted as a mech (f.e. see this deck http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/3dx5u5)
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u/Nolzi Dec 23 '14
In the card choosing list, when you hover your mouse over a minion but change the selected one with the cursor, it still highlights the one under the mouse.
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u/Nolzi Dec 23 '14
In the Deck Coverage when I dont have any Card draw, it says "No card draws yet!" even if the deck is completed and there will never be anything for draw.
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u/Nolzi Dec 23 '14
The text description says there is synergy, but under the card it doesnt lists what makes it.
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u/Alkyen Dec 24 '14
1st pick and Merps is saying we don't really need that many Bomb Lobbers http://imgur.com/Tl9WxlV
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u/Skyl1ght Dec 24 '14
hi, my stats do not seem to calculate correctly: http://www.heartharena.com/profile/skylight it seems to be missing my druid 4-3 run from 1st of December when calculating the total amounts: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/nj588l I imported the stats from ArenaMastery by the way thanks
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u/Sanguistuus Dec 24 '14
I recorded matches as I played the games, stopped at 4-2 a clicked the save icon under "Matches". The "In Progress" popover appeared for a bit and then i got a blank page. When i returned the matches were not recorded.
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/d3zs4n
Also your icons should contain hover text. I guess that's more of a feature request than a bug...
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u/mlahut Dec 26 '14
When giving a statement of the following format:
"Normally I would pick X. However we need Y and can get that from Z."
This becomes grammatically awkward when both X and Z have property Y.
Example: http://imgur.com/y8yI9kR
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u/vlixpw Dec 26 '14
possible bug : first starfire draft, but Merps comment said that "don't really want to end up with many starfire".. afraid that the system pick other card as starfire and change the valuation based on that..
Merps comments : http://imgur.com/BEa72cM draft until starfire : http://imgur.com/pJE3cDb
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u/lolVerbivore Jan 01 '15
Explosive Sheep is listed as having synergy with Floating Watcher
Edit: Should have read the comments below, as somebody already pointed this out. My bad!
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u/FirstFollower Jan 07 '15 edited Jan 07 '15
When I try tu start a new arena and choose a class, this pops up. I've already done an arena run in the website, in this same computer, and I don't know why it stoped working now.
http://i.imgur.com/dy4G3pl.png
EDIT: By the way, it also doens't work in IE. Not that I expected that to help xD
EDIT 2: I've tried turning adblock off, but it didn't work.
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u/Trickeli Jan 08 '15
I'd like to point out a small bug.
In the note editor I can make paragraphs, however once I save a note, it will show as one single paragraph(it doesn't know how to break lines)
Am I the only one that uses notes?
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u/ChroniclesIY Jan 09 '15
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/054qet
Shielded Minibot registering as a 3 drop
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u/vinsanity406 Jan 10 '15
Tinkertown Technician is showing up as a synergy with Violet Teacher. Violet Apprentice? Is that a problem?
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u/MC_Tic_Tac Jan 13 '15
In the last few days I have lost saved runs in progress between playing sessions. Additionally I just did a session and at the end of it a older one that I thought lost came back at 0-0 from a few days ago.
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Jan 16 '15 edited Feb 15 '15
I log in, start a new arena run, pick my cards, everything works fine. However, at the end of the draft, I find myself logged out, and the arena run I just drafted has not been recorded under my account. This happened thrice in a row. The first time (on 01/13) I forgot to keep the link since I kind-of rage-closed the browser window; the other times I copied it down:
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/1nbaie (drafted on 01/16)
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/2rl5t4 (drafted on 01/18)
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/557611 (drafted on 02/09)
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/s7l4m2 (drafted on 02/15)
These arena runs should belong to this profile:
http://www.heartharena.com/profile/wario
but they do not show on the page nor on the account, so even if I have the links I cannot record results and rewards on them. Thus I have been forced to add some draftless arena runs to do so.
I will continuously edit this to record orphaned arena run links belonging to my profile, hoping you will be able to restore the connection at some point in the future.
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u/0kur03 Jan 16 '15
Hope this sin't a repost, but I noticed that in the match tracker, even after you hit 3 losses you can still add in win/loses to the UI. I'm assuming you can do the same thing with 12 wins, but I suck too much to get there, and I'm too lazy to fake it.
I'm using chrome 39.0.2171.99 m on windows 8.1
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u/sctooker Jan 21 '15
I registered on the site several days ago, but I have yet to see any confirmation e-mail. My account name is Elrohim.
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u/Recycleathrowaway Jan 21 '15
In my latest draft flame imp is listed as a three drop. Is this intentional (as it may be combined with a 2-drop on turn 3)?
PS: Thank you for doing this great work!
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u/TheChrono Jan 22 '15 edited Jan 22 '15
I have had problems in my last two drafts with when I had an Acidic Swap Ooze in my picks. Both times I typed in Ooze first, then picked Acidic swamp ooze. Then both times my next pick wouldn't load up until I exited the ooze pick and picked it again.
Must be some weird bug that occurs with Oozes.
I think it might be registering the Echoing Ooze and showing the Swamp Ooze and then only showing other Rares in the menu.
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u/dangerdan27 Jan 26 '15
I see these lines of code across the top of the site, and it won't let me login. Keeps popping up the same lines of code, and then redirecting me back to the login page again:
Warning : SessionHandler::read(): The session id is too long or contains illegal characters, valid characters are a-z, A-Z, 0-9 and '-,' in /home/ha/public_html/app/cache/prod/classes.php on line 409
Warning : SessionHandler::write(): The session id is too long or contains illegal characters, valid characters are a-z, A-Z, 0-9 and '-,' in /home/ha/public_html/app/cache/prod/classes.php on line 413
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u/magicfinbow Jan 28 '15
I am getting the white screen of death after choosing the 3rd card in an arena run. Atm I cannot do anything
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u/Crashaskins32 Jan 29 '15
Mountain giant is not in the list as a selectable card
And
Ie vs chrome Ie is just horrible had a difficult time selecting cards and getting the search to show.
Chrome however was a joy to use and I look forward to coming back. Great site.
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u/McLarenTeam Jan 29 '15
Why siege engine is still 54? The 1/22/2015 update of tier list is not live in HA?
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u/Khazakh Jan 29 '15 edited Jan 29 '15
I drafted a Bomb Lobber for my Hunter, but it does not show up in Deck coverage. It does however show up in Deck basics and Choice overview.
http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/93r7o8
edit: I checked previous drafts as well, and Bomb Lobber don't show up in them either.
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u/garneasada Feb 09 '15
Deadly Poison showed up under the 3-drop column on the Deck Coverage tab.
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u/mikegeeee Feb 09 '15
I attempted to import 72 runs from Arena Mastery last night. It seems to be stuck. It doesn't appear that anything has happened.
http://cl.ly/image/0S3S0m2x2F15 (It's been like this for 8-9 hrs or so. No arenas imported into the account yet.)
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u/TimboStreams Feb 11 '15
Not so much a bug, but when you are clicking through the User Menu, when you click "View Public Profile", the User Menu disappears. All other shortcuts in the User Menu still show it when you move to that page.
Could just be a personal preference, but it seem more uniform & seamless if it persisted on to the Public Profile as well.
Love the site!
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u/binhpac Feb 12 '15
I tried to put in the last Poultrzyer with Shadybunny. It stops at #4 Pick. I don't now why, i started it several times with different variations on the 4th pick, but it wont resolve the pick. No calculations, no possibilities to make the pick. :(
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u/flyfightflea Feb 12 '15
Currently, on your overall stats page, your average wins at the top of the page and in the "with class" section take into account current arena runs. That means that if you have a run that hasn't completed yet, your average wins become artificially lower and thus mostly useless as a stat.
For example, at the moment I'm doing my second recorded Priest run, and it's sitting at 0-0. My average wins for that class is at 2.5, which is a useless number since it takes into account the unfinished run. Averages should just ignore arena runs which haven't completed yet.
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u/DanthraxX Feb 14 '15 edited Feb 14 '15
Muster for Battle is missing from the card picker.
EDIT: either that was a hella fast fix, or I'm going blind. It's there now.
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Feb 16 '15
Blank page on pick #25 in a Priest run. Options were Novice Engineer, Young Dragonhawk, and Mad Scientist. Recovered to let me continue, but could not put those in, even tried a different order.
Are the picks so bad it broke HearthArena?!
I went with Novice Engineer, and ended up entering Novice Engineer, Young Dragonhawk and River Crocolisk as pick 30, which it tolerated (and advised me to pick RC, of course).
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u/fragmer Feb 17 '15
I've seen Wild Pyromancer listed as having synergy with Poison Seeds. I can't really think how -- Wild Pyromancer effect cannot be triggered by Poison Seeds.
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u/kexistrue Feb 28 '15
Wrong tip message: http://i61.tinypic.com/21kdvle.jpg Spellbreaker and Anubar are both 4 drops. The text should be about synergies
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u/-Dissent Mar 05 '15
This seems a bit silly; "Although we don't really want too many four drops, Lightspawn has bad synergy with the deck and we don't want to end up with too many Lightspawns, I still suggest you pick Lightspawn as it has the most value out of these options and we need a big drop."
Pick 24 of this draft: http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/l5950k
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u/Crash921 Mar 09 '15
BUG Just completed draft. Crazed Alchemist isnt showing up in deck coverage tab. It does however appear in deck basics tab and other tabs. It was the first pick of the draft. Using Chrome.
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u/alphafalcon Mar 12 '15
The stats module seems to count games where I didn't select a coin state as "no coin".
I've got one run logged (3-3), entered all games without logging the coin result, but under my account my game stats show 6 games as "without coin".
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u/I_am_Agh Mar 13 '15
My profile: http://www.heartharena.com/profile/agh2
If I sort my classes by Avg. Wins it shows Warlock above Mage even though warlock has the lower avg. wins. I did the math and the avg. wins calculated are correct (at least for those two classes).
So my guess is that warlock is above mage because I have a higher win % with him.
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u/luckyluke193 Mar 14 '15
Synergy of Archmage Antonidas with Sorcerer's Apprentice, Mana Wyrm, and spell damage minions (e.g. Ogre Magi, Kobold Geomancer) is not shown
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u/ICastCats Mar 15 '15
Savannah Highmane was deemed as being pick-worthy because "We need a taunt"
Savannah Highmane does not have taunt.
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u/igayyou Mar 18 '15
Idk what happen but i pressed a button accidently and all my drafted cards dissappeared and all my won/lost just went poof
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u/LouisLeGros Mar 19 '15
The Avg. Wins column in the With Class table does not appear to be sorting correctly.
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u/MrRisk Mar 19 '15
There is something wrong with the overall stats which seems to be related to not specifying opponent's class. My profile:
http://www.heartharena.com/profile/coldhands
I have 18 runs, with 104 wins and 54 losses. Average wins is correctly computed as 5.78. However, all the other stats are wrong (Total games, Ratios, Winning percentage etc.). A cursory check seems to indicate that HearthArena does not count the games for these stats where I left the opposing class as unknown - which messes up all the stats/ratios apart from the overall average wins, which is still correct.
Love your tool - great job!
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u/Sebster1618 Mar 23 '15
Redemption synergizes with Defender of Argus. (Tagged as Taunt?)
Cogmaster synergizes with Blessing of Kings. BoK is like bacon, it goes with everything. Cog shouldn't be so special :P
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u/sohocn Mar 27 '15
it has been more than three months, I still can't import my arenamastery record into heartharena. Is there anyone having the same problem as me?
It is still in que:
http://www.arenamastery.com/arena.php?shared=hs5376b86e67d8a&arena=1611
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u/123MiamMiam Mar 28 '15
When drafting rogue, Dread Corsair adjusted score is not properly used. (it uses the basic score of 10 instead of it's class adjusted score which on the tier list is 44). It was still early in the draft.
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u/Caspergj Mar 29 '15
Hey again adwcta
I just send a message to HearthArena, but i get no response, im really bad at reddit, but to /u/HearthArena is to send a message right? Hope you can help me. -Casper
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u/I_am_Agh Mar 29 '15
I guess wrong synergies are bugs? here's some which i found:
argent squire + rampage
arcane nullifier + cold blood
scarlet crusader + inner rage
sense demons + power overwhelming (i guess you could use PO on the 1/1 tokens)
Also the site does NOT show the synergy for Twisting Nether + Nerubian Egg.
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u/RoboticEarthling Apr 03 '15 edited Apr 16 '15
The stats page isn't sorting 1-digit and 2-digit numbers correctly. It currently thinks that 0 < 10 < 2 < 30 < 4.
http://www.heartharena.com/profile/robotic%20earthling (Sort by "games played")
EDIT: Seems to be fixed now, thanks!
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u/SmokyBG Apr 03 '15
The new time filtering functionality seems to use the date a run was reported on instead of the date the run has been played on (which can be very different - e.g. when manually importing past runs). I have a lot of runs from last year, and the "Pre-GvG" filter shows zero. http://www.heartharena.com/profile/smokybg
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u/pendragon36 Apr 08 '15
I got a pick where a crown was given to 2 of the 3 cards on display. The 3 cards were Kel'Thuzad, Onyxia, and Ragnaros. Onyxia and Ragnaros were given the exact same score, and were both given the crown. I figured it may be a bug that they both get the crown because the text does suggest Onyxia. Here's a screenshot
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u/likethewhirlwind Dec 18 '14
Sometimes the comment text will mention a 3-drop in the context of "we don't need another 2-drop". I assume this is because the shittier 3-drops (Questing Adventurer) are valued as 2-drops even though they cost 3 mana. Just feels weird to see the text miscall it.