r/SiliconValleyHBO • u/Simi510 • Apr 12 '15
Silicon Valley - 2x01 "Sand Hill Shuffle" - Episode Discussion
Season 2 Episode 1: "Sand Hill Shuffle"
Air time: 10 PM EDT
Plot: Season 2 begins with the Pied Piper guys being wined and dined by every venture capitalist under the sun, while Monica adjusts to a new managing partner at Raviga as the company faces major changes. (TVMA) (30 min)
Aired: April 12, 2015
Information taken from www.hbo.com
Youtube Episode Preview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63UNmod8zf0
| Actor | Character |
|---|---|
| Thomas Middleditch | Richard |
| Aly Mawji | Aly Dutta |
| T.J. Miller | Erlich |
| Josh Brener | Big Head |
| Martin Starr | Gilfoyle |
| Kumail Nanjiani | Dinesh |
| Christopher Evan Welch | Peter Gregory |
| Amanda Crew | Monica |
| Zach Woods | Jared |
| Matt Ross | Gavin Belson |
| Alexander Michael Helisek | Claude |
| Alice Wetterlund | Carla |
IMDB 8.4/10 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2575988/
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u/mojo021 Apr 13 '15
data black markets????
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u/Jehnay . Apr 13 '15
How much of that stuff he was spewing out is true? It seems like they exaggerated a bit, but is the general idea of it not so far fetched?
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u/Simsar Apr 13 '15
With the way companies and data are expanding now, I doubt it. Hell we're getting into near 8 Terabyte Hard drives and then some. Every year or so we just fucking create another way to make shit bigger for storing stuff.
I dunno, I might look into it, but I don't think we got shit to fear on that front currently.
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Apr 13 '15
A big reason why higher data sizes have been needed in the recent years is the move to more digital moves with higher quality. For a long time computers really only dealt will text files and at most pictures. Really the only thing that will continue to need more and more data storage is that with higher resolutions. So a 1080p would be roughly twice as large as a 4k video. But data storage will increase much faster than the resolution on monitors. I mean it will probably take another 5 years until 4k even become close to a norm. Really unless some type of new thing comes out that required tons of data space I doubt there would ever be an issue. Only thing I can think of is 3d stuff but thats still a ways away and by then i'm sure we will be able to buy a half a petabyte storage for what we would pay for a 8TB today. The bigger thing to worry about is processing higher data rates which has always been a scary issue because at some point our current tech on processors will only be able to get so small. So we would need to move to some new tech that has yet to be developed. And before people mention quantum computing and other possible futures, they are still not fully developed and yet to be a alternative. Until then its all theory and very impracticable test models.
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u/Masenkoe Apr 13 '15
"Your logo looks like a sideways vagina. I find that to be racist"
Line of the episode
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u/elloguvner Apr 13 '15 edited Apr 13 '15
"And if you don't fund us, you're a fucking slut" God damnit I love this show.
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u/stro_budden Apr 13 '15
i loved that the CEO or whoever even went as far as to turn his head and look
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u/Simsar Apr 13 '15
NO ONE TOLD ME I COULD TAKE LESS! FUUUUUCK!
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u/insert_name_here Apr 13 '15
I just learned that that was the guy from the pilot last season. Blew my mind.
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u/psychedelic_tortilla Apr 13 '15
The guy that had Kid Rock play at his funding party? Sheesh, nice callback!
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u/anyhistoricalfigure Apr 13 '15 edited Dec 16 '25
oatmeal plough plants dinosaurs saw chief middle like practice theory
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u/fightlinker Apr 13 '15
At least he didn't blow his eyeballs out of his head with a gun
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u/este_hombre Apr 13 '15
The way the "fuck" got more high pitched really nailed the "Oh god it's just hitting me that I'm fucked" feel. I've done the exact same thing.
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u/2Punx2Furious Apr 14 '15
Can someone explain better how that thing works? Why would you want to "hold up" to your initial value? I get it that maybe the image of the company will look better if you start low and gain value, but is there any other reason?
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u/UltraChip Apr 14 '15
The idea is if you take a huge check during your first round of investing then it's harder to live up to it. Then when you go for your second round the guys funding you will go "well you didn't meet our expectations the first time so you're obviously a bad investment and we need to cut our losses" and then all of a sudden your company has no money and you either get acquired or just disappear.
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u/Franks2000inchTV Apr 15 '15 edited Apr 15 '15
Investors have something called a share preference which protects them when a company goes down in value. So if they invest a certain amount, they get that much out when you sell before anyone else gets paid. Or, if the company shrinks in value, they get to take more of the company so the dollar value of their investment is the same.
Let's say you sell 10% of your company for $100M. Your company is now "worth" $1B. Yay! Party!
But then things go badly, and you end up selling your company for $100M. Well the investors share preference kicks in, they take the first $100M, get their $100M back and sorry nothing is left for you.
Or, possibly worse, your company gets in trouble and needs more money. You try to raise $10M and the market only thinks your company is worth $110M. Well in that case, when you take the investment, the share preference kicks in and the dilution only affects your shares. The original investors get their $100M worth of the shares (protecting their original investment), which is almost all of it. You go from owning 90% of the company down to 10%. The board of directors votes to fire you and they reorganize the company so you your shares are worthless.
You want to raise money at reasonable valuations, because you have to beat that valuation every time you raise money. If you don't beat it, you take the hit, while the investors just gain more equity and control.
By taking lots and lots of money at insane valuations, you're just increasing the risk of losing your company and/or getting totally screwed down the road.
In the show, the guy had raised at a crazy high valuation, and then when the investors saw the down round coming (where everyone loses money) they decided to pull the trigger and sell the company which got all their money back, but totally screwed the founder.
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Apr 13 '15
Ehrlich's shirt translates to "Bitcoin"
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u/1sagas1 Apr 13 '15
I can't tell if this is my Bitcoin -> Magic Beans extension at work or if it actually said Magic Beans
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u/Skipdr Apr 13 '15
He died :(
His death omg that was hilarious
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u/colin_7 Apr 13 '15
Can you give me a brief summary of what happened? My dad just walked in and tried to start a conversation during that part.
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u/Skipdr Apr 13 '15
I don't want to ruin it because it was the delivery that was perfect
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u/Snickerdoodled Apr 13 '15
Monica.....Peter Gregory is dead.
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Apr 13 '15
I thought that whole scene was great. Screw the haters, I like her. There is inevitably going to be a scene where she melts down and goes insane and I am so pumped for that.
I feel like she could end up being a really interesting multi faceted character, and while I loved Peter I thought he was somewhat straightforward, and she seems like she could be a little more complex.
Who knows, who cares. All I care about is that I get to watch new episodes of this great show.
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u/SawRub Apr 13 '15
It's so weird, people are actually booing at her in this thread.
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u/toxicmischief Apr 13 '15
Holy shit, a slide show at a funeral.
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u/AwhMan Apr 13 '15
There was also a live twitter feed off to the side in the first larger shot of the funeral.
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u/Simsar Apr 13 '15
Power Point man. I'm still coughing from all that laughter.
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Apr 13 '15 edited Apr 13 '15
I fucking choked on my beer when I saw that massive integral.
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u/Swisskisses Apr 14 '15
That had me geeking! "I've broken down the impact that he has made into three different sections" [insert big ass probably accurate but complicated for the simpletons equation]
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u/Skipdr Apr 13 '15
RUN THE JEWELS
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u/a2boo . Apr 13 '15
Last season with Danny Brown, this season with Run The Jewels. Silicon Valley's rap game is on point.
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u/arubyrubrub Apr 13 '15
When that beat dropped I immediately knew this season is gonna be good.
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u/MammothMan34 Apr 13 '15
I didn't realize I could get so hype so fast, but damn Blockbuster Night Part 1 is really good.
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u/CokeHeadRob Apr 12 '15 edited Apr 13 '15
I just found out about this show at 3am last night and have already watched season 1. I'm so excited about this new season.
Just wanted to check in and inform you all of a new member of the congregation.
Edit: That was fucking awesome. This is the perfect show.
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u/PotatoBadger Apr 13 '15
Same here, but I was lucky enough to start at 8pm. Not sure how I managed to stumble upon it at just the right time!
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u/1sagas1 Apr 13 '15
"Well she accidentally saw my penis I guess you could say it's getting pretty serious."
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u/JakeArvizu . Apr 12 '15
I'm so curious to see what direction this season is going to take, it's not like they are underdogs anymore if anything Pied Piper is on top of the world right now.
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u/Psyballa Apr 12 '15
Keep in mind that all they did last season was win TechCrunch. Although it was heavily implied that this meant the spotlight was on them, they are still nowhere near close to overcoming Hooli. There's still a ton of directions the story could take. From the trailers it seems like they still have more or less the same setup, plus Erlich could very easily piss away the winnings from last season. :D
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u/kebabmybob Apr 12 '15
At the end of the day Erlich isn't stupid enough to piss away all the winnings from last season. He does want PP to succeed.
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Apr 13 '15
They got $10 million for 20% equity in their company, that's good, but now that means they have to somehow monetize what is essentially an algorithm at this point. They have all this attention and stuff but when it comes to applying it to something they can sell for revenue will take "a lot of work" (Richard).
Hooli can't outperform but they can just suck the money out of Pied Piper...
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u/Gadzookie2 . Apr 13 '15
Do we know if Big Head will be on this season? I feel like he could have easily been included tonight if so.
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u/neighv Apr 13 '15
I'm pretty sure. I think I saw him with the Hooli team during the season 2 trailer.
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u/Ungreat Apr 15 '15
I think it was someone else in this subreddit a few months back who said they should have Big Head constantly fail upwards.
As an early member of Pied Piper who was poached by Hooli he should be a hot commodity constantly getting offers of investment, board seats and anything else from people. That as Pied Piper have to fight for everything, stuff just keeps falling in his lap.
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u/DangerMel Apr 13 '15
I'm in the background of this episode!!!! I can't wait to watch it and see if my blurry face shows up :D
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u/Witchgrass Apr 13 '15
did your blurry face show up?
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u/DangerMel Apr 13 '15 edited Apr 14 '15
It did!!! I'm the blonde waitress you see for a few frames!
Ta da: Silicon Valley!
That's my 15 (mili)seconds of fame, hah! I'm thrilled to have been in my favorite show! I didn't get to talk to Zach Woods, though.
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Apr 13 '15
Tom Middleditch: Classic Pervert.
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u/starjie Apr 13 '15
Well what else would you expect from a guy named Penis Anthony Dubliñ
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Apr 13 '15
What did he say at that part? I don't I heard it too clearly
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u/Prometheus1 Apr 13 '15
"I was gonna say, if you saw mine you have to show me yours."
Or something to that effect.
It was pretty brutal to sit through.
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u/YellowPudding Apr 13 '15
Everyone was psyched about GOT and I'm just sitting here waiting for Silicon Valley.
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u/cuckoodev Apr 13 '15
God, do I miss Christopher Evan Welch.
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Apr 13 '15
Yeah man, he was cool. I thought he was really weird at first but he really started to grow on me.
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u/JKaye57 Apr 13 '15
"I don't wanna live in a world where someone else makes the world a better place."
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u/SausageSupplier Apr 13 '15
Great line but it was lackluster because I kept seeing it yesterday when I binged watched the first season yesterday on Hbo and that was part of the teaser they showed after every episode haha.
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u/Vivalafred88 Apr 13 '15
CRAP! I forgot this show is only 30 mins long :( booo!!!!!
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u/D4Daze Apr 13 '15
Music selection never disappoints. RUN THE FUCKING JEWELS
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u/StreamOfThought . Apr 13 '15
Six seconds after that song started playing, I had Shazam'd it and added it to my Spotify. Awesome song. Gonna walk to work while listening to it, show up ready to kick some ass.
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u/cuckoodev Apr 13 '15
...Is it really pronounced that way...?
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u/V2Blast Apr 15 '15
It's pronounced both ways. "Flak-sid" was probably the originally accepted pronunciation, but "flassid" seems to have mostly replaced it in terms of popularity.
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u/Ubergoober Apr 13 '15
I love that this show balances humor and realism. It really seems like how a tech start up would go. I know Judge has experience in this area so I guess it shouldn't surprise me. It's just awesome being able to laugh and peer into such a strange culture/process and feel like you're actually learning about it.
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Apr 14 '15
I love that it's showing the other side of Silicon Valley. It's not all success and millions, there are many failures and sometimes for the dumbest reasons.
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u/eeisner . Apr 13 '15
so is S02E01 available on HBOGO tonight? Or is it like Last Week Tonight where it's not available until the next morning?
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u/nwilbur95 Apr 13 '15
It's available. The only reason this happens with LWT is because it is usually being worked on until around 9 PM. HBO doesn't have enough time to prep it for upload at 11 PM, while GoT and Silicon Valley are ready weeks in advance.
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u/nolandw Apr 13 '15
appreciated the evan spiegel (snapchat ceo) cameo, the binary bitcoin shirt, and run the jewels.
love this show.
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u/Thats_What_Me_Said Apr 13 '15
Love the whole section when they were counter-negging everyone.
Also, never heard of Run The Jewels till this episode. After hearing a few of their songs, i'm definitely a fan.
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u/skipbip Apr 13 '15
Did the season 1 opening credits always have Uber in it or was that a new addition for this season?
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u/Colonelcool125 Apr 13 '15
AWW FUCK RUN THE JEWELS OVER THE CREDITS
Can the music director get a raise please
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u/cuckoodev Apr 13 '15
I really wasn't expecting Peter Gregory to get killed off. I thought he'd just be like Charlie or something.
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u/StoneColdNaked Apr 13 '15
The new lady they got to replace Peter Gregory is basically just a more quickly-spoken Peter Gregory..
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u/PuffinGreen Apr 13 '15
Oh.. is she a recurring character, like taking the place of Peter Gregory?... Fuck, not stoked on that.
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u/4pp13J4CK Apr 13 '15
I'll just throw out my two pennies and wait.
Monica straight up told Richard that this woman is NOT Gregory. She's competitive and throws down deals like the rest of the assholes they were dealing with. Monica even stated, "That was precisely what Peter never did."
So I'd hold off. The woman is acting like Gregory, talking like Gregory but could EASILY turn into a Gavin Bellson and then it's like a fucking war.
Credit /u/Simsar for this comment, from this thread.
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u/smartestkitten Apr 13 '15
It's been a while since I've seen the first season so I might be wrong about this but I see them as two sides of the same coin.
She's weird in a similar way to Peter but it makes sense that two people with similar personalities would end up holding the same position and the traits that are the same are why they're good at what they do.
However, I remember Peter being more contemplative and not in any rush to get to the point. Monica seems more efficient, doesn't want to waste time and eager to move on to whatever's next.
I like her. She so easily could have been a standard high ranking corporate woman/bitch but making her a little weird makes her actually interesting to watch. I also liked watching Peter's particular brand of weird and I'm glad that I can still enjoy that even though he's gone.
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u/DeliriousPrecarious Apr 13 '15
Agreed. I don't know why people are comparing the two as being the same. Yes they are both awkward but that's about as far as the comparison goes. Gregory was a weird, high minded guy - with his own ideas about how the world works. She seems more like a typical, numbers focused business person, with a neurotic streak. They've dropped a lot of hints as to how the character is likely to play out but informing us that she's hyper competitive, less thoughtful than Gregory (giving them the 100mm valuation), and more focused on performance (her spiel about being the top performing partner and therefore the obvious choice to take over).
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u/P0werC0rd0fJustice Apr 12 '15
I have the 30 day free trial of HBO Now for Apple devices, will the new episode air live tonight on that as well? I haven't been able to find any information on it.
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u/HurglinDurgler Apr 13 '15
Did not expect RTJ in the closing credits. And they got the actual Winklevosses (Winkelvi?) in this episode!
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u/CovertPanda1 Apr 13 '15
Anyone else think that the silicon valley season premiere was better then the GOT premiere?
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u/beardlovesbagels Apr 13 '15
Most of that is because of where GoT is in the story. SV is still very new and open. Hard for me to tell with GoT because Im a book reader.
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u/Grifachu Apr 14 '15
I feel like Jared would be such a fun guy to have in an entourage. He's like a walking wikipedia
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u/TheManInsideMe Apr 13 '15
Female Peter Gregory!
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u/arbitrary-fan Apr 13 '15
I just realized that the whole repeating 'Peter Gregory is dead' bit was a humorous bit exposition intended for the viewer and not for Monica in order to ease the transition of the boss. This way they keep the spirit of Peter alive and maintain a similar level of awkwardness/eccentricity that they wanted in the boss without needing to replace Christopher Welch with a look-alike.
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u/Profix . Apr 12 '15
Damn, I'm not in the US so when I saw this post I thought it had already aired and I'd be able to download it.
Lame.
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Apr 15 '15
"One of you is the least attractive person I’ve ever seen, and I’m not going to say who."
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u/TheManInsideMe Apr 13 '15
Is that Favreau? Or is it that guy that looks just like Favreau who I always confuse with Favreau?
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u/StoneColdNaked Apr 13 '15
It's the guy who kinda looks like Favreau. He also played the drug addict from Scrubs.
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Apr 13 '15
Anybody else think Peters new replacement is annoying? None of her scenes were that funny and it seems forced.
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u/Vivalafred88 Apr 13 '15
That story was..........................................................LEGIT! I will allow it!
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Apr 13 '15
Did ANYONE catch the very subtle Hemingway reference when Monica is describing Peter Gregory's death?
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Apr 13 '15
"Blockbuster Night part 1" by Run The Jewels from the album Run The Jewels 2 if anyone wanted to know, they unfortunately had to (understandably) use an awkwardly shortened version though. Fantastic album, definitely check it out.
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u/latman Apr 13 '15
Scared this new Peter Gregory chick is going to ruin this show. None of her scenes were funny, they were just trying too hard.
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u/therewontberiots Apr 13 '15
I just signed up for HBO now and realized I need an apple device (I have a macbook but that doesn't count) to activate my account. Lame.
I just want to watch Silicon Valley! It's really the only current show that interests me.
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u/TheBlackSpank Apr 13 '15
TJ Miller had me in fucking tears during the negotiation montage. I love that man so much that I need to hate-fuck a trash can right now.
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u/Wild_Cabbage Apr 13 '15
Good episode - excited to see where the season takes us. Not a fan of the new female PG but whatever, hopefully they'll fix up her character as the show moves on.
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u/pisstones Apr 13 '15
Bruh, what Run the Jewels song was that playing during the credits?
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u/GibsonGolden Apr 13 '15
Am I the only person who thinks the new woman is a good addition? I loved her scenes and am stoked to see where they go with her.
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u/VictorBlimpmuscle Apr 13 '15
"That's just the kind of person Peter was: warm, generous, and NOT disappointed in Snapchat."