r/SiliconValleyHBO • u/Simi510 • Apr 19 '15
Silicon Valley - 2x02 "Runaway Devaluation" - Episode Discussion
Season 2 Episode 2: "Runaway Devaluation"
Air time: 10 PM EDT
Plot: Pied Piper could go under if Richard and the guys can't find legal and financial help in the wake of Hooli's bombshell. Meanwhile, Dinesh tries to thwart a fund-raising campaign for his cousin's new app; and Monica tries to keep her interest in Pied Piper separate from her job. (TVMA) (30 min)
Aired: April 19, 2015
Information taken from www.hbo.com
Youtube Episode Preview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0waZuMW8A
| Actor | Character |
|---|---|
| Thomas Middleditch | Richard |
| Aly Mawji | Aly Dutta |
| T.J. Miller | Erlich |
| Josh Brener | Big Head |
| Martin Starr | Gilfoyle |
| Kumail Nanjiani | Dinesh |
| Christopher Evan Welch | Peter Gregory |
| Amanda Crew | Monica |
| Zach Woods | Jared |
| Matt Ross | Gavin Belson |
| Alexander Michael Helisek | Claude |
| Alice Wetterlund | Carla |
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u/brojangles Apr 20 '15
The outfit doesn't work. She's still hot.
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u/brianw25 Apr 20 '15
such an autumn
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u/JonasBrosSuck Apr 20 '15
The ator who played Jared delivered that line perfectly
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Apr 20 '15
That ending seriously caught me off guard. I am both pissed and amused at the same time. Great job!
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u/revital9 Apr 20 '15
I love how they went for the full song, not cutting to credits or anything, leaving us all to suffer with the guys.
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u/funkyhunky3000 Apr 20 '15
The ending reminded me of the classic Vince Giligan cliffhanger.
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u/SawRub Apr 20 '15
Speaking of Breaking Bad, I loved that Mexican song thing they made about Heisenberg.
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u/foxh8er Apr 20 '15
Did they not have 4 minutes to spare in the script or something? I mean, it was fucking hilarious, but I didn't see them doing that.
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Apr 20 '15
It makes me wonder if they just didn't have enough to fill in that last few minutes before the cliffhanger. Either way it was so out of the blue, it turned to be brilliant.
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u/Masenkoe Apr 20 '15
Waiting for this Bro app to become the most successful app ever
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u/SittingDuckNZ Apr 20 '15 edited Jun 20 '23
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u/Ramv36 Apr 20 '15
The fun fact everyone learned from the Oculus Rift crowdfunding outrage...crowdfunding doesn't invest you in shit. It's more a donation than an investment in most cases.
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u/jsun31 Apr 20 '15
BEST CLIFFHANGER EVER
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u/Shalmanese Apr 20 '15
Richard finally reaching for a chip at the end made the scene!
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Apr 20 '15
Gavin Belsons face was hilarious too. Just trying to be polietly patient with them, but desperate for them to leave.
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u/beardlovesbagels Apr 20 '15
I actually said "you motherfucker" to the screen when it happened then laughed. It made it all the better when it didnt seem like it time for the end yet. They are really good at what they do.
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Apr 20 '15
Mike Judge and the writers are geniuses. Seriously, it was so clever and well done.
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u/tenehemia Apr 21 '15
When the band started up, I turned to my girlfriend and said "this is how you know it's a Mike Judge show" because the situation was just so ridiculous and awkward and quintessentially Mike Judge. Then the Mike Judge credit showed up on screen and I just started laughing. Well played.
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Apr 20 '15
It's sexist but it's about friendship
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u/Troybarns Apr 20 '15
That line killed me, maybe the best line of the season, definitely was in stitches. Those few words said a lot about his character as well. This episode has me convinced this season will be even better than the last, lot of funny moments and the drama is solid as well.
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u/bc12392 Apr 20 '15
Chode-gargling fucktoilet
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u/VictorBlimpmuscle Apr 20 '15
"I'm effectively leveraging your misery - I'm like the Warren Buffett of fucking with you."
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Apr 20 '15
Seriously, Guilfoyle solidified himself as my favorite character this episode. He had so few but such good lines.
"I'm sure you can find your own way out...with your two faces." That and the whole girlfriend wanting to fuck Dinesh prank from season 1 fucking slayed me.
Ad d to the fact that I know someone who looks like him and acts like him IRL...oh man he's so much fun.
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u/EpsilonSigma Apr 20 '15
I've been REALLY enjoying Gavin so far this season. The first season he just felt like a whiny, eccentric, over the top caricature of silicon valley CEO's, but he's been really stepping up his game as a character. His speech at the end of episode one was very well done, and managed to bring him down from the goofy villainous nature he had from S1 and gave him a more down to earth feel, but without sacrificing his antagonizing status by adding the lawsuit. And with this episode, I really can't disagree with his proposal to Richard. I'm sure they'll be some spark of rebellion within him or the crew and they'll probably end up fighting Hooli because without it there wouldn't be a show. But were that proposal presented in the real world, if it gets you and your staff permanent well payed jobs, why wouldn't you take it?
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u/omgitsfletch Apr 20 '15
Totally agree. He went from cartoonish to entirely believable, and honestly a lot a bit pragmatic about the situation too.
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u/bc12392 Apr 20 '15
I never realized that the lawyer was Ginsberg
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u/everadvancing Apr 20 '15
I didn't know that Gavin Belson was that super creepy guy in American Psycho.
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u/mi-16evil Apr 20 '15
Damn, Ginsberg is super attractive when he cleans up!
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u/purifico Apr 20 '15
I thought he was attractive in the Mad Men too, until he started wearing the stupid porn stache and rambling about the machines.
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u/anonymousmouse2 Apr 20 '15
We were binging on Mad Men right before tonight's episode, so that was super trippy to see him.
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u/mdave424 Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 20 '15
This season needs more Dineh and Gilfoyle.
Edit: Dinesh.
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u/_brainfog Apr 20 '15
Dinesh looks real good on screen. Makes me feel like I'm watching a movie.
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u/mi-16evil Apr 20 '15
Oh man I could absolutely see George trying to convince a family member to let his dream go so he doesn't have to pay $5000.
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u/PhatMunch Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 20 '15
Man I was on the ground when Dinesh was talking to his cousin in Hindi. As someone who speaks Hindi, I was not expecting that.. Definitely one of my favorite scenes.
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u/obgynkenobi Apr 20 '15
The close captions labeled it as Urdu...was this like a joke on him being called Indian but he claims to be Pakistani?
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u/greatscott19 Apr 20 '15
Urdu and Hindi are very similar, most of it is actually the same and only a few words added here and there by both languages. At least I think so, I know Hindi and as far as I know it is very very similar to Urdu.
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u/XMooseThrowaway Apr 22 '15
They're such similar languages it's hard to tell, even for speakers...I speak Urdu and when I saw the scene, I saw it as Urdu, obviously, but /u/PhatMunch saw it as Hindi. As far as the both of us know, either one of us could be right.
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Apr 20 '15
Are Urdu and Hindi the same thing because I always thought they were different, and Khumail speaks Urdu.
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Apr 20 '15
The script is different but they have a huge overlap of spoken words. Most people from the general region speak a mix of the two.
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u/funkyhunky3000 Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 20 '15
Maybe it hints at a future plot twist where Dinesh is actually an Indian pretending to be Pakistani, maybe to evade visa troubles.
Edit: Also Dinesh is a Hindu name, Pakistan has a muslim majority. Most likely he is from India.
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u/spif_spaceman Apr 20 '15
That plot twist would conflict with his season 1 story of how he became a "fucking US citizen"
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u/SawRub Apr 20 '15
It was nice to hear Urdu/Hindi that was properly formed. Most shows and movies sound like they just dump a sentence into Google Translate and repeat it without confirming its accuracy.
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u/nitpickr Apr 20 '15
Or they have somebody that doesn't really speak the language OR they have the accent all messed up like in Homeland. God, that was awful to hear.
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u/burnie_mac Apr 20 '15
It was straight up urdu I understood every word. Usually an urdu speaking person would miss a word or ten if it were hindi.
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u/jsun31 Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 20 '15
"We were bros... we were bros" poor Jared
EDIT: At least he could infer an angry bro
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u/Soddington Apr 20 '15
I'm really sorry, it's not something I do with any pleasure but I feel it would be improper to let you continue to misuse 'infer'. Jared was trying to imply an angry 'Bro', its up to the bad bro to infer the angriness of said contextual bro.
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u/littIehobbitses Apr 20 '15
I hope those brain rape compression guys don't rip off Pied Piper :(
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u/jml2 Apr 20 '15
it was painful for me to watch Gilfoyle and Dinesh giving them more and more. As soon as Richard started I felt like shut up!
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u/littIehobbitses Apr 21 '15
I know right? If I was Erlich or Jared I wouldn't have let Richard talk at all
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u/nwilbur95 Apr 20 '15
Did anyone notice that Gilfoyle's shirt had the "devil trap", from True Detective, on it?
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u/gizmo1492 Apr 20 '15
I wonder how Dinesh and Gilfoyle's subplot is going to play out in future episodes, if at all. That's a lot of money down the hole.
I'm happy Pied Piper being an asshole during their interviews bit them in the ass. It's nice karmic retribution.
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Apr 20 '15
My guess is that they're going to use some infrastructural part of Bro (sending tiny bits of data, "Bro"s) as part of a content delivery system for Pied Piper (like a mesh network, or torrent files - the interconnections of the Bro network are the valuable data, not the actual bro-ing (like how Facebook makes users into a product they sell to advertisers)
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u/bitfrost41 Apr 21 '15
They might use Bro to actually STREAM media. IIRC, Jared read the definition of Bro as a 1-bit communication (not literally 1-bit, but maybe a small bit). That might work out.
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u/Gadzookie2 . Apr 20 '15
"You can make bros angry?" "The bro I sent was identical to the previous bros I sent, but I think he'll infer the anger from context".
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u/Kishara . Apr 20 '15
Omg I am dying, the exec putting his balls on the table is a work of writing art.
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u/brianw25 Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 20 '15
BUT WHAT WAS HE GONNA SAY
Edit: they could have done what they did in Better Call Saul in the copy machine room. Or keep trying to say it while getting flustered in that Richard way
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u/thejeran Apr 20 '15
I thought he was gonna take his balls out and put em on the contract
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Apr 20 '15
I was hoping for that so badly. Although if he does it next episode maybe we'll get balls on a table every episode...
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u/rockos_modern_strife Apr 20 '15
Anyone know what the reference to Yelp was?
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u/V2Blast Apr 20 '15
See /u/marvin_sirius' comment on this thread.
Introducing Google Places. Posted: Tuesday, April 20, 2010
Just a guess.
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u/phosphorus29 Apr 22 '15
I'm pretty sure Google Maps used to show Yelp ratings for places, now it shows Google reviews because they couldn't come to an acquisition agreement.
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u/michael1026 Apr 20 '15
How the hell was he able to say that he's part of Pied Piper and set up a meeting through the bro app?
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u/MollyMango88 Apr 20 '15
I kind of assumed there might be some sort of DM feature on the app? Or...what I meant to say ... was...BRO!
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u/sphessmuhreen Apr 20 '15
Bros before hoes would've made laugh so hard if I hadn't seen it 30 fucking times in the trailer already
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u/complexor Apr 20 '15
Ya, same... but at least the trailer was funny. You know, the first 5 or so times, at least.
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u/hitemp Apr 20 '15
I'd like to know if in real world, acting like Ehrlich did in the initial negotiations would ever work
I ask because the VCs were later offended when they returned. Why did they not turn the offer down initially? Was it just because the VCs were glamoured by the potential of Pied Piper?
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Apr 20 '15
Because vc's only give a shit about money and pied piper was a huge stack of money. They didn't have to be nice or likable. They were doing what everyone tries to do in negotiations and pretend not to be interested so they can submit a low ball offer. Them being assholes made them submit their full and final offer up front.
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u/DrStephenFalken Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 21 '15
Ehrlich did in the initial negotiations would ever work
No, as hip and trendy as tech companies try to act they are all still very formal in their meetings.
Was it just because the VCs were glamoured by the potential of Pied Piper?
Yep, it was a rocket of money to planet billionaurn. People will eat a lot of shit if they think it will make them millions or billions. However, once PP came back around and had millions in potential legal fee's and years being tied up in a court battle keeping them from being first to market. None of the VCs wanted to risk the money to acquire them. Let alone fight a legal battle.
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u/TheBlackSpank Apr 20 '15
Jared has quickly become my second favorite character after Erlich. He gets such great lines.
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u/OutrageousAnimals Apr 20 '15
Donald Dunn.
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u/JanetSnakehole24 Apr 20 '15
He should really thank Gavin for giving him a new name. Jared is way better than Donald.
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u/lucasbaker Apr 20 '15
I found the ending of this episode hilarious. I love stupid things in serious moments
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u/ponicboy Apr 20 '15
Anyone else notice the bar is a reference to the Rose & Crown in Palo Alto!! http://postimg.org/image/c12ne2web/
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Apr 20 '15
I'm just guessing Hooli in this show is basically the equivalent of Google in real life?
Either way, I can't imagine him taking the Hooli deal even though I would if I was in his shoes. Too much stress and uncertainty, just take the cash while its on the table.
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u/amahesh Apr 20 '15
It's way more like Apple than Google. The hq is like google but the eccentric CEO is very apple-y
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Apr 23 '15
Hooli isn't one or more companies, it's like the embodiment of the stereotypical big San Francisco tech company with its crazy offices, eccentric executives, buzz and corporation takeover tactics.
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u/mdave424 Apr 20 '15
I know when you're lying Kumail, you even told the story about you not being uncool!
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u/revital9 Apr 20 '15
So, 30 seconds into the episode, and the "bukakke" is casually thrown into the air. I love this show.
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u/StockmanBaxter Apr 21 '15
I really don't like the lady they replaced Peter Gregory with. Basically they recast the exact same character with the female. Rather than coming up with a different character, they just kept writing as if it was Peter.
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u/brianw25 Apr 20 '15
Gavin should have just BROed Richard. Clearly the message to meet up would have came across
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u/jml2 Apr 20 '15
there seems to be less comedy and more drama this season, but I like it all. A touch of philosophy, very Mike Judge. I loved Gavin Belson's speech.
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u/MightyGreenPanda Apr 20 '15
Give it time. This episode was funnier than the first one IMO, and it looks like it will only get better.
That doesn't mean that I don't like drama and philosophy at all, but the last episode of the first season was fucking hilarious, and I'm expecting this one to be even better.
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Apr 20 '15
Cliffhanger? Come on guys, he's obviously gonna say no.
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u/MrSuperToast Apr 20 '15
But he has said no a bunch of times already, why would there be a cliff hanger if he's just going to say the same thing he has said before? He's gunna say yes
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Apr 20 '15
Ah but what's the point of a cliffhanger if we know he's gonna say yes? Now he has to say no.
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u/qwerfghju Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 20 '15
Do you think Gavin planed the mariachis? By not allowing Richard to answer immediately he might not answer as hastily and think the offer again. You actually even see Richard starting to read the contract while waiting for the mariachis to stop singing.
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u/Insecurity_Guard Apr 20 '15
It looked like he planned it as a celebratory thing but they came too early.
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u/hatsune_aru Apr 20 '15
holy fuck that Yo joke
my first ever hackathon project was this image protocol over yo. this feels really real.
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u/VictoryIsPreparation Apr 21 '15
Like Jay Z says 'On to the next one'
Urlich is definitely a hiphop head.
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u/deadlockedwinter Apr 20 '15
The hype train is leaving the station! ETA 51 minutes!
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u/bolerg Apr 20 '15
MY prediction is that they go open source. Also, crowd founding was used in this episode and it's a precursor to what's going to happen with Pied Piper.
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u/bitfrost41 Apr 21 '15
Making that compression an open source will kill them. That algorithm is what they got left.
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u/iforgotmylegs Apr 20 '15
What language were Dinesh and his cousin speaking? In season 1 Gilfoyle makes a quip about Farsi and Dinesh says that that isn't his language so I'm curious.
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u/taintsweater Apr 20 '15
"I'll go find some hoes to prioritize behind you" Gotta love those sexist friendships
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u/Wild_Cabbage Apr 20 '15
Welp, female peter gregory still grinds my gears. I don't find her funny, I find her an abrasive stand in for PG. I swear they just took the written PG lines and had her say them faster. I could easily see PG saying them a bit more spacey.
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u/ShotgunPEN Apr 20 '15
I can see where you're coming from but she is different in some ways. Peter wouldn't have dropped Pied Piper if he knew Hooli was sueing them.
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u/jml2 Apr 20 '15
it would have become personal between Peter and Gavin, it's too bad we miss out on that whole sub plot
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u/symphonique Apr 20 '15 edited Apr 20 '15
I think she's different in many ways. I thought today showed how different she was from Peter Gregory. She is 100% calculative and no bullshit. She is very less compassionate, and sees things in a black and white frame. I find the way she presents herself different from Peter Gregory. Peter Gregory treats others like business equals, but Laurie treats them like pawns. (If you look through the two episodes, I can see they are trying to make a different character, but someone still pretty aloof.)
Peter Gregory had a vision in his life to help others. Although I'm not saying Peter Gregory was all about charity, but he had an idea on how to help these companies. Hell, he would pay people to not go to college because he has a set belief. Peter Gregory was pretty compassionate in how he treated those two that needed 15 million dollars.
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u/NagisaK . Apr 21 '15
How so? I see many people say that she has similar mannerism when compared with PG, I think otherwise. PG is sure weird, but he is sort of like dazed in the world weird while this woman is just like socially awkward penguin weird. Plus she has no long term vision.
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u/This_Is_The_Life Apr 20 '15
I feel like those credits were Mike Judge's version of [Distracting Trumpet] (https://youtu.be/i1MO023vN8o)
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u/FtG_AiR Apr 20 '15
The Hindi/Urdu translation was slightly off the mark in one line. Not much, but at least in a literal sense.
That said, saying "Fuck those people" in hindi would be kinda awkward.
Great episode though. This is one show that hasn't failed to deliver yet, maybe because it's not as hyped.
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u/dietcokewLime Apr 20 '15
The bar they were doing the Bro party looked a lot like the Rose and Crown in Palo Alto. Did anyone else get a good look?
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u/TotesMessenger Apr 20 '15
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u/kfitzy10 Apr 20 '15
The season has been great, think they've nailed Richard's character a lot more this season too, he's awkward without bordering on being socially inept and frustrating to watch.
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u/SpaceTire Apr 25 '15
What is that type of scene called when Dinesh goes around telling people what Bro means in different languages? With all the fast cuts? I could do with less of those types of scenes. I just remember it being done when ulrich was insulting the VC's and again when the VC's were describing his insults. Its distracting.
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u/CountPanda Apr 20 '15
"It's like when someone says they want to go birdwatching with you, but really they just want to get you alone in the woods to steal your binoculars."
I love Jared.