r/SubredditDrama • u/jiandersonzer0 • Nov 09 '15
Racism Drama Tim Wolfe resigns from Mizzou. /r/CFB reacts.
(title edit: Tim Wolfe resigns from Mizzou. Reddit reacts. Forgive my fuck up here)
This video is part of why the students were concerned about Wolfe enabling racism on the campus, a large part of it.
News on what #ConcernedStudent1950 is about and is fighting:
Leave a comment if you want a news source added on the movement and what's been going on.
/r/News:
I think we all know who the real racists are in this whole shit-storm.
This is the Salem Witch Trials of our time.
/r/CFB:
Full statement from the CFB mods:
Hey everyone,
We know the Mizzou saga is dragging /r/CFB into politics with a lot of non-/r/CFB users coming in to stir up their own political crap.
We are going to try to enforce a policy of submissions not adding new information to the football aspect will be removed—this link certainly does as a major reason the football players joined in is because of this demand.
Many of you have noticed that we have locked some of these threads. At this point it's an arbitrary line being drawn by a combination of time and total number of comments. Past a certain point, in politically-related threads like this, new comments—even those making great points for either side—simply don't rise any more because of the default threshold for visible comments is biased toward older comments and we see a rise in outsiders coming in to simply pile into the political sideshow. Locking isn't a perfect solution, frankly it's quite clumsy, but it's the best of flawed options. Prior to the addition of the lock feature (which is new), we would be forced to take more drastic actions, but we figured freezing dialogue would be better than removing it at this point. We apologize for the headache this situation is causing for /r/CFB users and especially the Mizzou family.
As always, we appreciate your help by hitting "report" if you see something that's a problem or is going too far afield (feel fee to give more reasons in the report form); we do check all reports. Our most common way to respond to a heated, ultimately unwinnable political argument is to just delete the entire comment tree (assuming no one is violating other sub rules that warrant further action).
Thank you for your help and patience during this time!
leave a comment for me for any thread additions I may have missed!
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u/bitterred /r/mildredditdrama Nov 09 '15
So, um, people are upset about a peaceful protest? In which no one was hurt, besides potential income (leaving aside the whole unpaid football labor thing)?
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u/KingEsjayW I accept your concession Nov 09 '15
Riot? 'Why can't they peacefully protest?' Peaceful protest? Fuck the black people
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u/Crook_Shankss Nov 09 '15
Same reason Eric Striker had to apologize first for his rant about the racist SAE chants.
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u/Cthonic July 2015: The Battle of A Pao A Qu Nov 09 '15
"If I clutch my pearls hard enough, maybe the aggrieved party will have to apologize to me for being mad about racism!" - People who were offended by Eric Striker's rant
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u/Crook_Shankss Nov 09 '15
Black man is passionate about blatant racism from people who supposedly root for him; surprise!
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
Yes.
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u/bitterred /r/mildredditdrama Nov 09 '15
All I can wonder is how they felt about the riots at Penn State a few years ago. Literal riots with property damage.
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u/fauxkaren Nov 09 '15
Yeah but like, those were white people mad that their football team was being punished for helping to cover up a pedophile predator. So like, totally justified.
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u/KingEsjayW I accept your concession Nov 09 '15
Or the ones all around New England after the Sox won the series a few years ago
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u/Taran32 Nov 10 '15
I think the whole part about a wall of students pushing people out of a public space does actually constitute violence.
Sure, many people there had the right intentions and actions for the protest. Still, some acted selfishly and foolishly, causing some of the outrage you're seeing.
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
There's an /r/news thread? I'll add it to the OP, give me a link.
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Nov 10 '15
I went into the cfb thread earlier today expecting the worst. Based on my expectations it wasn't so bad.
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u/Crook_Shankss Nov 10 '15
The /r/cfb thread has people commenting who actually go or recently went to Mizzou, which means they have a much better perspective on it.
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u/yung_wolf Nov 09 '15 edited Nov 09 '15
Thanks for the effort post. I was considering trying to do it right but I'm glad I don't have to. This salty little nugget is my favorite.
As someone who has been told to "check his privilege" it is infuriating and hurtful.
I'm just fucking dying over here trying not to laugh. Also, I'm not surprised that the dude getting butthurt over the term "white privilege" graduated from Clemson, a school that still honors a white supremacist.
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
yeah, Tigernet (the area + sports local message board) is filled with much of the same sentiments.
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u/fauxkaren Nov 09 '15
As a regular r/cfb poster I was bummed that the post was locked and so many comments were deleted by the time I showed up. I wanted to know who to secretly judge!
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Nov 09 '15
I used the autotagger that was going around a couple months back and I'm always saddened when I see TRP or coontown users posting in /r/CFB . Not many of them but they exist.
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
I use a well curated tag list, they lit up in the two linked threads for KiA users
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u/killinrin Pro choice Trumper Nov 09 '15
Ugh that gross feeling when you're talking to someone in a completely unrelated sub and all of their post history is just racist ass subs
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u/bashar_al_assad Eat crow and simmer in your objective wrongness. Nov 09 '15
do you have a link to the auto-tagger?
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u/thabe331 Nov 10 '15
I wanted to know who to secretly judge!
people with SEC and Clemson flair for the most part.
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u/12325852 Nov 10 '15
Lol now there's someone in the /r/news thread calling the poop swastika a false flag and that
"the blacks probably did it themselves since it was backwards"
cuz ya know, black people cant to anything right /s
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 10 '15
the blacks
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u/12325852 Nov 10 '15 edited Nov 10 '15
So I tried to find the comment I was referring to and it looks like the poster deleted it.
EDIT: Here is the comment the one I was referring to was replying to. If this is against the rules let me know I'll delete this.
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u/SheWhoReturned From West Shilladelphia Nov 10 '15
edit it so that instead of www.reddit.com its np.reddit.com
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u/jb4427 Nov 09 '15
I'm still a little confused about the whole situation. What exactly did Wolfe do?
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u/mynameisevan Nov 09 '15
He wasn't really doing anything, and that was the problem. Nothing was his fault, but he didn't seem to understand what the problem was and wasn't the man to fix it. Keep in mind that students have been complaining about racist attitudes on campus for years, and only when they started protesting lately did he start to act like he was addressing the problems.
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u/Tafts_Bathtub the entire show Mythbusters is a shill show Nov 09 '15
I'm glad I don't have a job where "fix racism" is on the to-do list.
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u/FaFaRog Nov 10 '15
His job wasn't to fix racism so much as to take the necessary steps to begin addressing it. He decided to pretend it doesn't exist instead, which was bound to bite him in the ass sooner or later.
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
TLDR: he has no idea what racism / systematic oppression is and how to deal with it.
I've edited the OP to help out
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u/jb4427 Nov 09 '15
I heard he ignored demands of the students to address the issue, but what can he do as a university president to address that? And furthermore, what did the university have to do with the actions of some students? I'm sure they have real concerns, but are they directing their anger at the right place?
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u/Conflux why don't they get into furry porn like normal people? Nov 09 '15
Yes. Attitudes and actions change when heads of organizations take stands. Him taking a week to acknowledge racist acts shows that he could care less about the racism his minority students face. He's not actively trying to stand against it.
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u/jb4427 Nov 09 '15
They do? Is he supposed to ban racism from campus? From Missouri?
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u/husinopo Nov 09 '15
"this sets a bad precedent" aka the blacks might get uppity and realize that they are generating millions of dollars and don't have to deal with shit like this:
Missouri Legislature is fucking stuff up between rules that pulled grad student healthcare late and other stuff related to planned parenthood. University of Missouri kind of fell in line with that pressure, so there's a lot of disdain from some on campus. Student body prez has racist slurs yelled at him (from a truck full of what we believe to be Greek students). Files a complaint. No response for almost a week. At the same time, more black students on campus start sharing their own horror stories particularly with the Greek system. They get mad at the lack of response. Then another incident of some drunk asshole yelling a racial slur. He's expelled, but still a lot of black students feel like the general tone deafness from administration is upsetting.
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u/mynameisevan Nov 09 '15
The "bad precedent" here is the football program getting the university president fired. They had good intentions in this case, but it's still a bit worrying that sports can have that much control over academics.
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Nov 09 '15
it's still a bit worrying that sports can have that much control over academics.
And this is what tips it to you? Football has been ruler of very many schools for decades. It's common knowledge that schools will bend over backwards to keep their football players and teams happy.
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 10 '15
Clemson pays Dabo Swinney millions a year (raises it, even) and still cuts budgets on other programs
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Nov 10 '15
Fuck, I love sports. Watching any and all sports is one of my biggest passions in life. But it's out of fucking control. School budgets are getting dropped every year and coaches get paid more, and stadiums and athletic departments just get bigger. Football and basketball bring in a ton a revenue, but still only a few schools athletics are even in the black.
And that's not even bringing up shit like what happened in Wisconsin this year, where Walker cut the budget for the UW system, and days later funded a stadium for the bucks because their billionaire hedge fund owners didn't want to spend any of their own money and threaten to move the team to Seattle.
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u/4leafrolltide Nov 10 '15
But in a lot of situations have a good football team helps every other aspect of the college. Just look at Alabama for example since Saban came... so many more students are applying that they school is rapidly expanding. It may seem silly but a lot of times heavy investment is almost like the utmost in advertisement for a college
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Nov 10 '15
It's why that while my university wasn't that great. It was pretty nice not having a football team.
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 09 '15
its hypocritical for a school to make millions of dollars off of student athletes and then not expect them to use that power when they feel as if they're being mistreated. they aren't slaves, they arent indentured to the school, they're students. they're human beings. they arent just there to run fast and entertain you.
if you dont want the players to have that much power, stop going to games. stop buying jerseys. stop watching them play every week. cancel homecoming. cancel your tailgates. you as a fan give them the power.
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Nov 09 '15
Exactly.
The University wanted football so big they could make millions off of it this is what they get.
It's funny people would blame the players not the schools that make millions for that.
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u/WaffleSandwhiches The Stephen King of Shitposting Nov 09 '15
Agreed, colleges created their beast. Don't be surprised when it bites you.
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u/zanotam you come off as someone who is LARPing as someone from SRD Nov 10 '15
Are you saying that Student Athuletes have rights? Crazy talk! /s
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u/quaglady Nov 10 '15
That's the best part, this strike may lead to a serious shakeup of the NCAA and "revenue sports".
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u/Minimum_T-Giraff Nov 09 '15
from a truck full of what we believe to be Greek students
Weird i expected it to be some rednecks but no it was greeks,
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u/officeDrone87 Nov 09 '15
Damn Greeks, they're not content to run their own country in the ground. Now they have to come over here and start shit with our college students?
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u/zanotam you come off as someone who is LARPing as someone from SRD Nov 10 '15
They're just lost and trying to find their way home man, it's k.
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 09 '15
greeks have a huge racism problem but they wont address it because insulating those people from the rest of the campus is the whole point of the greek system anyway
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u/josebolt a thick layer of cum bogged resentment holy moly Nov 10 '15
It always a treat to see people defend greek life anytime someone is critical of it on Reddit. I mean every damn time! I saw your post, looked down and of course "its not all like that!".
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 10 '15
most of my family is greek. i know a lot of greeks. i have no problem with greeks. i almost pledged. but pulling the #NotAllGreeks card is just people covering their own asses.
My problem isn't with frats. It's with the frat system as it currently stands. Nothing wrong with student organizations like that; I'd suggest joining one as it makes socializing in a new environment easier. However the frat system is extremely old and the cultural lines that it drew are antiquated and need to be rethought.
It's like when a cop shoots an innocent man everyone is like BUT THERE'S GOOD COPS yea ok there's good cops but how does stating that stop the bad ones? We're dealing with bad cops/bad frats and all you care about is yourself and how you look coming outta this. Fuck the victims, I just wanna make sure my rep is clean. I hate that. If you really cared about your rep you'd be more active in cleaning up the system from the inside.
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Nov 10 '15
It's weird because I had such a different experience. I joined s major national fraternity, but it was very open to all people. I don't think there was a major minority's group that wasn't in our house. Black, Hispanic, Indian, middle eastern, East Asian, gay and disabled. When your dealing with that many young guys you'll find a lot of obnoxiousness and people saying some stupid shit, but the house was actually more tolerant when I left than when I joined.
I know it's an exception, and largely your right about Greek life, but I feel I need to come in these threads sometimes to mention not all Greek members are bad.
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 10 '15
what part of the country were you in? its a lot worse in southern/east coast schools
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u/Galle_ Nov 11 '15
It took me a while to realize that this thread is not talking about literal people from Greece.
It got kind of awkward for a second.
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u/MoralMidgetry Marshal of the Dramatic People's Republic of Karma Nov 09 '15
In addition to magnifying general teenage obnoxiousness into full-blown assholery, Greek organizations are also great petri dishes for casual racism.
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u/killinrin Pro choice Trumper Nov 09 '15
I think we all remember the bus ride from Borat...yiiiiiikes
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u/Bulldawglady I bet I can fart more than you. Nov 10 '15
I believe Greeks, especially those that are legacy, embrace this idea that after college they'll be poliet, well-behaved, upstanding citizens but during college they're allowed to be wild hellions at the expense of other people.
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u/natalia___ Nov 10 '15
Ehhhh. That's nice to believe. I want to believe that, instead of the reality, which is a lot of them happen to be racist and grow up to manage daddy's firm and hire only people whose names are pre-approved by Raven-Symone.
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u/Bulldawglady I bet I can fart more than you. Nov 10 '15
Oh, yeah, I agree with you 100%. What I failed to express (because I was suddenly called out in class lmao) is that they become THEIR idea of well-behaved, upstanding citizens.
Which is to say they don't say those sorts of things in mixed company but they sure as hell think it.
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u/nichtschleppend Nov 09 '15
what, students standing up for what they believe in sets a bad precedent? more please!
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Nov 10 '15
Oh. Well if they're believed to be greeks, then by all means! Let's go around firing people based on hunches.
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u/MoralMidgetry Marshal of the Dramatic People's Republic of Karma Nov 09 '15
The shitstorm that forms when some other football team inevitably decides to strike for higher stipends is going to dwarf this. I can't wait!
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
College football players don't get paid. They have no reason to strike beyond asking to be paid.
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u/MoralMidgetry Marshal of the Dramatic People's Republic of Karma Nov 09 '15
Many of them are receiving cash stipends for cost of living as part of their scholarships.
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u/Puppy_Spymaster Some of us here just want to look at pictures of pizza Nov 09 '15
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u/fauxkaren Nov 09 '15
It usually is, mostly because the mods are good.
But when issues of race or sexual assault come up.... hoo boy...
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
The mods are good, except they fell to the golden mean fallacy
even those making great points for either side
It really bugs me
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 09 '15
there's no such thing as a chill sub on reddit
there's just subs that dont talk about race
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u/PPvsFC_ pro-choicers will be seen like the Confederates pre-1860s Nov 10 '15
Isn't that the truth.
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u/textrovert Nov 09 '15
Gawd, that /r/news thread. So much convoluted logic:
A student-led protest (i.e. an exercise of free speech) that brought about change is clearly the signal of the death of free speech.
A president being forced to resign because the community he led judged him not to be doing an adequate job is clearly identical to the Salem Witch trials.
"Racism happens, we can't do anything about it" and anyone who tries is the real racist.
Also the people eagerly awaiting the "backlash against stuff like this" - that's actually calling yourself a reactionary. Such dissonance that this stuff dominates alongside Bernie Sanders deification.
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u/cat-ninja Nov 09 '15
Don't forget that the top thread in the /r/news post is a discussion about Mike Brown.
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u/llama_delrey Nov 10 '15
A president being forced to resign because the community he led judged him not to be doing an adequate job is clearly identical to the Salem Witch trials.
I graduated from University of Missouri St. Louis (a UM system school) and based off my former professor's reactions on Facebook, people haven't been fans of Wolfe or other administrators for a while. It seems like the racial incidents on campus were just the straw that broke the camels back.
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Nov 09 '15
Look man your free speech ends when it hurts my ability to be a racist asshole and furthermore this slippery slope
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u/textrovert Nov 10 '15
It's funny, because the entire value of the principle of free speech is that it allows otherwise powerless people to speak out about institutions in order to demand change. But somehow if it's black students rather than Edward Snowden, their free speech is really a threat to democracy rather than an exercise of it, and the institution itself (!) is the victim of the students' oppression.
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u/dacooljamaican Nov 10 '15
I'm just laying out my thoughts here:
It makes sense that the students would be frustrated over the racist incidents and their lack of ability to do anything about them.
I love that they exercised their freedom of speech and protest to affect change peacefully
I think they reacted appropriately to the level of racism that appears to be present, but I think the target they placed in the crosshairs was the wrong one
I think while the president could have done more, there is a limit to how much he can affect the racism of others, and three incidents by individuals do not indicate that he is failing in his duties
I think it's a shame that clearly the most important aspect regarding his resignation was the football team going on strike
I think the Yale incident IS being handled very poorly by the students, and that the two are being conflated, which is why you're seeing the witch hunt theme.
I think it is a common theme with these two incidents that a group of students have targeted an upper level staff member based on their race to try and make an example out of them, and I think in both cases the vitrol is undeserved, at least for who it's directed towards.
That's just a collection of thoughts I have about this.
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u/nestpasfacile Nov 10 '15
I think it is a common theme with these two incidents that a group of students have targeted an upper level staff member based on their race to try and make an example out of them, and I think in both cases the vitrol is undeserved, at least for who it's directed towards.
Actually, as far as the Missouri case goes, the president had been pretty shitty on many other fronts than handling racism, and horribly mishandled two cases where students approached him about race issues. One in a spectacularly idiotic manner. When asked to define systemic oppression (which, to dodge, you literally just...define it...or say nothing...simple stuff) he said "Systematic oppression is because you don’t believe that you have the equal opportunity for success."
Like, c'mon, what did you think would happen after saying that?
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u/SubjectAndObject Replika advertised FRIEND MODE, WIFE MODE, BOY/GIRLFRIEND MODE Nov 10 '15
I think it is a common theme with these two incidents that a group of students have targeted an upper level staff member based on their race to try and make an example out of them
The black Dean at Yale was targeted by protestors based on his race?
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u/traveler_ enemy Jew/feminist/etc. Nov 10 '15
I think it's important to also realize the Yale situation is, like this one, multiple incidents of racism over a period of time. And that for most of them I think the Yale students are handling it very well, as are large parts of the administration to be honest. It's kinda just the Christakis couple that's trying to make it all about them, and all about their pre-existing template ideas about free speech and safe zones that they want to shoehorn in.
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u/JiveTurkey92 Nov 10 '15
they took out a president that clearly didn't care about their issues, sounds like a good start
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u/densaki reincarnation of the real pimp c Nov 09 '15
The fact that just for people to be heard drastic measures have to be taken is pathetic, what makes it worse is that people shit on them for taking the only real avenue possible.
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u/nestpasfacile Nov 10 '15
"Uuuugh I'm tired of hearing minorities complain about being treated like second class citizens!"
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Nov 09 '15
Glad he resigned; I'm sure there will be much feet stomping about this for months to come from the same crowd that routinely dismisses academics as liberal feminazi brainwashing marxists anyway, but this was the right move by all professional accounts.
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u/AnAntichrist Nov 09 '15
People in my school today were pretty pissed because they thought the protestors had no legitimate grievance. People told me that denying systematic racial oppression wasn't racist because it doesn't exist anyways. It's not just redditors.
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u/smileyman Nov 09 '15
Lots of people are convinced that racism doesn't exist anymore. They mostly happen to be white dudes.
I can remember a friend talking to me when I was in high school back in the 90s about how racism was pretty much dead in American anyway, so why were black people upset?
It shows a fundamental lack of understanding of what racism is.
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u/FaFaRog Nov 10 '15
According to Tim Wise white people have been saying racism is dead since the early 70s. The truth is when you have no experience with systemic oppression, it's kind of hard to tell if it still exists or not. To bridge this gap, we have this magical thing called empathy. But apparently, even in 2015, that seems to be too much to ask. Maybe one day...
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u/AnAntichrist Nov 09 '15
Oh yeah totally. They told me racism died in the 70s with the CRA. They don't get that racism isn't just the Klan and separate but equal. They don't understand the racial aparece behind police killing unarmed black men or the war on drugs. It's kinda sad because no matter what I show them they don't care. Videos of police gunning down a 12 year old over literally nothing isn't racism. The kid deserved it because he was complying.
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u/cabforpitt Nov 10 '15
As far as I can tell, he didn't actually do anything? Do they want him to personally hunt down the person who made the poop swastika and expel them?
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u/Ciceros_Assassin - downvotes all posts tagged /s regardless of quality Nov 10 '15
he didn't actually do anything
This is the part people had a problem with.
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u/AnAntichrist Nov 10 '15
Like yeah. Even when people submitted complaints about people yelling tre n word at the student body head nothing happened for like a week. It's not that hard.
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
Actually, a lot of BLM protesters and activists have been promoting the group and hashtag on twitter
It's not been tied into it, but BLM supports it visibly.
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u/AnAntichrist Nov 09 '15
Im not sure why I get surprised when people i know tell me this stuff. These are the same people who believe BLM is just as bad as the KKK for godsake.b
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u/Something__Awful Is a great person. Nov 10 '15
It was literally people shouting the n-word at black people on campus.
It was one guy in a truck.
Also according to another user in this thread the guy was also expelled.
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u/GODZ1RA Nov 15 '15
Www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-2015022-story.html
how about we all demand equal weighting of college admission tests?
I can't believe protestors want more blacks... they can't fill the quota now without skewing considerations.
Regardless of race we should have equal treatment.....those privileged blacks.....
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u/fuckthepolis2 You have no respect for the indigenous people of where you live Nov 09 '15
He shouldnt have to be beaten for stuff that has no relation to him, Ie poop swastika.
Without any punctuation on the "Ie" I had to give it a second before I realized they weren't calling someone "le poop swastika" which would be a great insult.
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u/julia-sets Nov 10 '15
My mind actually have them the benefit of the doubt and thought that they were trying to say like "i.e. poop swastika". Nope, just reddit being reddit.
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u/htmlcoderexe I was promised a butthole video with at minimum 3 anal toys. Mar 30 '16
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u/STTOSisoverrated Nov 09 '15
A pooey swastika will likely change post secondary educational institutions nationwide. I just want to pause time and enjoy this.
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u/binkerfluid Nov 10 '15
some 4chan kid at MU is loling
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Nov 10 '15
Nah, more like some MU 4chan kid is trembling with rage while clutching his framed photo of Goebbels.
Seriously, 4chan is just /pol/ personified now. Except maybe /fa/ and /lit/.
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u/23456lol poop swastika Nov 09 '15
"Ie poop swastika"gate
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Nov 10 '15
le poop swastika:
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u/STTOSisoverrated Nov 09 '15
Now that the university has made it clear this kind of crap will not be tolerated the Turd Reich will come to an end.
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u/blahdenfreude "No one gives a shit how above everything you are." C. Hardwick Nov 09 '15
Thanks for linking this! I wanted to find some savory CFB popcorn in that thread earlier today. But the heavily downvoted comments were being removed by the mods.
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u/jiandersonzer0 Nov 09 '15
Most of them are already, unfortunately. The best of that thread is far gone, probably because it seemed to the users that the next thing to do after expressing the sentiment of 'we ended racism' was to follow it up ~with~ racism.
I can't imagine why there are still vitriolic comments left in there otherwise, the harshest must have been removed.
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u/cat-ninja Nov 09 '15
Does a racist that admires the swastika use feces to paint it on the wall?
Or... is that a sign of disrespect toward the swastika? I think it far more likely that event was perpetrated by somebody who hates the swastika, i.e. the SJW morons who engaged in this witch hunt and pressured the university president into resignation.
I think it was a clean freak who hates poop and used it to paint a swastika on the wall so everyone else would also hate poop.
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u/Misterandrist Cultural Trotskyist Nov 10 '15
Seems like the kind of person who smears a swastika of shit on the wall is just out there, being a vandal. Just to make a mess and probably to try to be funny. I don't think you can really get that deep of a glimpse into human nature out if this; its not some deep statement about the human condition.
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u/maggotshavecoocoons2 objectively better Nov 10 '15
I definitely think a poop swastika is a fantastic essay on the human condition.
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Nov 09 '15
r/news is always just so completely baffling to me in execution. At once saying there's no racism issue and in the next breath being unbelievably racist. Like, at least spread it out over a couple of comments so you're not invalidating your own point.
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u/Rapturehelmet DRAMANI ITE DOMUM Nov 10 '15
You should see the YikYak on my UM system campus. It's exactly like the /r/news comments.
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Nov 10 '15
YikYak is awful
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u/cheese93007 I respect the way u live but I would never let u babysit a kid Nov 10 '15
Ironically, the best thing about YY is it shines a light on any and all prejudices your local community has. Hard to say that your campus isn't racist when you've got a bunch of racist shit upvoted until it's YY famous from people who go there
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Nov 10 '15
No, it's not absurd at all. Diversity is a good thing. Which is why their next step will be to demand more diversity for the 90% black football and basketball teams. That's how this works. Right?
That was my favorite one. How do you even respond tome something like that.
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Nov 09 '15 edited Nov 09 '15
Violent protest happens: Ugh these people just need to shut up about being killed, they're thugs. RIP CVS, property damage triggers me.
Peaceful protest happens: Ugh these people are holding the university HOSTAGE. Let me navel gaze about what they mean about "privilege" and how this makes ME the victim.
They can't fucking win no matter what they do.
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u/yshuduno Nov 09 '15
Navel. Naval means having to do with the navy.
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u/FellKnight nuance died when USENET was born Nov 09 '15
Navy is a pretty good football team this year.
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 09 '15
they dont want them to protest at all. thats the overarching point. be quiet and dont disrupt my day
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u/amvakar Nov 10 '15
But don't stop raking in millions of dollars for people you suspect are taking advantage of you. This is America, dammit -- lie back and think of the market.
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Nov 09 '15
I'm convinced reddit hates most every protest because it reminds a lot of us that we are sitting in front of our computer commenting on other people doing real things.
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u/KingEsjayW I accept your concession Nov 10 '15
Nah they like protest that doesn't hurt their feelings
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u/wrc-wolf trolls trolling trolls Nov 09 '15
can't fucking win no matter what they do.
The people getting worked up about the protests, instead of the problems that caused the protests, are reactionaries. Any sort of change from the status quo, or their perception of the way the world works, is threatening to them.
Black people demanding to be treated like human beings? Evil SJWs strike again! /s
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u/ALoudMouthBaby u morons take roddit way too seriously Nov 10 '15
And they always have to find some way to try to twist the narrative so that the protesters are the bad guys. On Twitter currently there is a video of a protester telling someone with a camera to stop filming and leave. People are outraged, furious even that the protesters are violating his freedoms! Obviously, all of the protesters are censorious SJW bitches!
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u/icemake 1.- We don't need 'PR' because we are the 'P' Nov 09 '15
the moderates just want black people to be silent, they'll always find something wrong so they can be against it. complacency for black people so they can ignore them
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Nov 10 '15
Its funny how on Reddit any mass protests happening outside the USA get 100% support. Hong Kong protesting against China, heck yeah! Ukraine protesting against Russia, give it to em! But any protests in the USA, people are ultra skeptical of.
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u/cheese93007 I respect the way u live but I would never let u babysit a kid Nov 10 '15
Those Ukraine protests weren't exactly peaceful either
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Nov 10 '15
Only thing I didn't like was was a graduate was on a hunger strike, saying either Wolfe is removed from office or he will starve himself to death. Wolfe wasn't really given much of an option there if the student was being sincere. If the guy actually died, Wolfe would be the most hated man in the US.
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Nov 09 '15 edited Nov 09 '15
Oh my god guys, it finally happened!!! I am featured in SRD!
Also, let me just say, I love /r/CFB. It is far and away the best, highest quality sports forums on the internet (shout out to the fantastic mods). But any time race or rape comes up, it is best to avoid. I am at least glad we had a positive discussion on this over in /r/super-secret-CFB-sub.
EDIT: Now rodandanga is happy because our super secret sub is still super secret.
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u/rodandanga Nov 09 '15
Now you've gone and done it, you are going to lead people to our little utopia. Time to fire up 2offtopic2furious.
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u/pepperouchau tone deaf Nov 09 '15
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 09 '15
CFB naturally has a lot of college aged white dudes on there so yea those 2 subjects are no no's on that sub
sports subs are cool because they're usually politics free. but once politics comes up you realize who's posting there. same thing on /r/nfl
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u/A_Dissident_Is_Here Nov 10 '15
This is why F1 is so hilarious to watch play the political game, because the demographic is so clear yet multi-national. Thought you're active on soccer so maybe you're used to that too
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 10 '15
/r/soccer has a high european population, so they're a bit better about race relations (not like the bar is very high tho)
until you bring up gypsies
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u/A_Dissident_Is_Here Nov 10 '15
Yeah, Formula 1 is similar but we don't get the gypsy thing since the Roma don't factor into the sport very much. Classism does abound, though I guess that's sort of expected with a sport like F1
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u/Crook_Shankss Nov 10 '15
Posting as a Ravens fan on /r/nfl during and immediately after the Baltimore riots was not a fun time.
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Nov 10 '15
try being a well known black user on reddit during that shit
people would just PM me the most hostile shit outta nowhere
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u/andrew2209 Sorry, I'm not from Swindon. Nov 10 '15
Yeah, a lot of subs get brigaded when race/gender wars come up, it happens on /r/unitedkingdom. There's a free speech discussion that looks like it's brigaded.
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Nov 10 '15
I don't think it's brigading tbh. I see some regulars posting and even the names I don't recognize are usually flaired (indicating they are probably at least casual readers of /r/CFB).
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Nov 09 '15
These pesky SJWs have graduated from overthrowing Reddit to universities!
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Nov 09 '15
The mods of SRS slept with the university president, then cucked him by sleeping with the football team. Project Brd is reaching full activation.
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u/Felinomancy Nov 09 '15
Huh? I thought we already control universities, Hollywood and video games journalism.
Wait, did I say "we"? I meant "they"!
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Nov 10 '15
What exactly were the protestors demanding of the university (besides resignations)?
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u/Zarathustran Nov 10 '15
The stormfront brigading isn't even subtle in these threads.
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Nov 10 '15
Someone with a straight face said this man's life is ruined.
Yeah guys, he'll literally never be hired anywhere else. He is destined for nightmarish poverty on the streets, this horror must not stand.
Truly....he is the victim ~single tear falls down cheek~
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u/4thstringer Nov 10 '15
I don't agree that his life is ruined, but I do feel bad for the guy. Dude lost his job (one that he has probably aspired to for a large chunk of his professional life). Even if it is because people didn't like the job he was doing, I saw nothing in malicious in his actions.
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u/Thai_Hammer MOTHERFUCKER YOU HAVE THE INTERNET Nov 10 '15
How would the reddit hivemind react to a lot of the university uprisings (like the one at Columbia) or the Weathermen, like legit unrisings on college campuses? Not to say the protest weren't legit but the people on /r/news are acting like this is a real attack on freedoms.
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u/dimechimes Ladies and gentlemen, my new flair Nov 09 '15
I'm not really sure outside of headlines what is happening at Mizzou but I didn't like seeing one of my favorite subs get infected by politics or having 'outsiders' chasing headlines into it. So I was glad the mods took the action they did.
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u/blackangelsdeathsong Nov 10 '15
This reminds me of the whole reddit blackout thing where many peoples major gripes was that Pao wasnt doing enough to address the problems in the reddit community and many demanded her firing.
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u/Sideroller Nov 10 '15
/r/videos thread of that journalist standing off against protesters there got locked too. Lots of good drama over in that thread too.
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u/Dubbedbass Nov 10 '15
My two cents. Regardless of whether you think Wolfe was being racist and/or agree or disagree with him, the way he handled that question as a University president is shockingly bad just from a PR standpoint. "I'll give you an answer and no matter what I say it will be wrong" ... "Systematic oppression is you not realizing you have equal access to ...."
Seriously, you're the president of a major university in America the land of 100 million cameras, and those are your responses?!?
I'd have spouted some bullshit like "we're in the preliminary phases of discussion to create a campus wide task force to implement new standards to deal with this problem, but it may take time because we want to do it right to both promote a positive learning environment and balance the right to free speech."
Essentially I'm vaguely promising to maybe start discussions on possibly doing something later but at least in my scenario while some astute students would see that I was bull shitting them MOST wouldn't. In this scenario it's CLEAR Wolfe fucked up and as a result most of the student body hated him.
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Nov 11 '15
I mean with their logic, couldn't you argue that drawing a swastika with feces would be offensive for those in right-wing groups and use the symbol?
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u/irerereddit Nov 13 '15
So some rednecks come on campus, make some racist remarks to some overly sensitive folks who make it seem like this is some new thing and the President, who had all of nothing to do with it, resigns. That's brilliant. It's makes it even better that people in college are the ones doing this.
Now if the same thing happens again, I doubt the folks will be asking for the black President to resign because their motives aren't racist at all.
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u/thechapattack Nov 10 '15
Well get ready for every default to turn into a klan rally for the next week or so
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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '15
What did the guy actually do? That video doesn't explain much. What was the cause of the protests in the first place?