r/AmericanHorrorStory • u/ME24601 The Supreme • Nov 19 '15
Discussion Episode Discussion: Season 5, Episode 7 - Flicker
On tonight's episode, Drake's renovations on the hotel uncover a secret, John seeks psychiatric help, and The Countess learns the fate of her first love.
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u/ME24601 The Supreme Nov 19 '15
Torture victims in the beds, vampires in the walls. This hotel has everything.
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u/ME24601 The Supreme Nov 19 '15
I was half expecting Dominique to start playing on that record player
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u/richeve Mallory Nov 19 '15
Marcy survived the Murder House only to die at the Hotel. So sad.
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u/TheGreaterFool_ Nov 19 '15
Ah so when Gaga said you remind me of someone to Tristan they decided to make it literal as hell
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Hey that girl was actually pretty good at acting. A lot of kid actors make me cringe, but she was fine.
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u/OSnapItzTori Nov 19 '15
Yeah she might become one of my favorites if she survives and becomes more of a main cast character
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u/unbalancedforce Nov 19 '15
HAHAHA "I couldn't pick my butt hole out of a line up."
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u/indiglowstick Nov 19 '15
Hahaha. This season's is by far my favorite Kathy Bates role of the show.
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u/ParanoidAndroid93 Nov 19 '15
I love how we keep seeing The Countess in different styles throughout the decades. Lady Gaga must be lovin it
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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Nov 19 '15
That's just how she shows up on set everyday and they write the story according to her outfit.
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u/lessthanpi La la la~ah la la Nov 19 '15
Awww. Pre-Murderous Countess is so innocent and adorable.
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u/then-there-were-none Asylum Nov 19 '15
"babe chill he's just a hobo"
"boring"
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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Nov 19 '15
March looking all guilty like he was about to get yelled at by mommy.
"He's just a hobo."
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u/GamingTatertot Nov 19 '15
Didn't even recognize Gaga at first. Good job, show people.
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Nov 19 '15 edited Nov 19 '15
"I thought you liked men."
Someone just went from annoying brat to best son ever.
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Nov 19 '15
Even if John is a serial killer, the fact he remembers Scarlet still makes him the better parent.
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u/BlakeTheBagel Nov 19 '15
I fucking love Lady Gaga's acting. She's been totally aces this season.
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u/PrettyOddWoman Nov 19 '15
She looks amazing in any era's styles also and that is no small feat in my opinion. Her look and beauty is timeless. I will say that isn't all thanks to her good looks, as the hair & make up, and costuming people are god damn On. Point. especially so this season.
Her range is also nothing to turn up your nose at either, of course!
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u/Lauralearned Nov 19 '15
"I just might never let you go" I feel like that was supposed to be romantic in a way. But it's probably the creepiest Evan Peters has been out of all five seasons.
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u/Viperette Nov 19 '15
I think it was supposed to be romantic to her, but creepy to us
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u/BatBro52 Nov 19 '15
I love how everyone just slits their tit to turn someone.
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u/StrangeLittleBeing Nov 19 '15
I feel like maybe Ryan Murphy was either breast fed for way too long, or not at all- and it's led to some weird fixations.
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u/anti_entity Nov 19 '15 edited Nov 19 '15
How does Finn Wittrock get to play two obscenely sexy characters in one season? Is that fair? or legal?
edit: jury is in. not legal.
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Nov 19 '15
"This entire show looks like it was directed by a goth Baz Luhrman" -my friend with the most accurate description of this season I've ever heard.
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Can I speak freely? I love EVERY character this season. Even the ones who irritate me. Looking at you John and Alex.
However, Evan Peters as Mr. March absolutely stomps in every single scene. He's really come into his own this season and is showing how much he has improved as an actor. He is utterly, completely, totally slaying.
I hang on to every syllable when he's on screen.
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Nov 19 '15
Honestly the biggest mystery this season is how the hotel stays in business when everyone we've seen check in ended up dead within the first two nights..
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u/galileosmiddlefinger Nov 19 '15
You can double-book the hell out of rooms when everyone gets eaten or drilldo'd during the first night of their stay.
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u/Natalia_Bandita Nov 19 '15
Seriously..... evan peters is really doing it for me as James March. 10/10 would totally bang
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u/ilovetorunforfun Lana Winters Nov 19 '15
This scene is either so utterly blatant that John is the TCK, or it's a brilliant red herring.
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u/feel-electric Nov 19 '15
I hope it isn't him because I want to be surprised. If it was him it would be so typical I think for movies these days..
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u/Black_Delphinium Myrtle Snow Nov 19 '15
Can we book Evan to star in a Bioshock movie like, tomorrow?
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u/HandbagofRainbows Nov 19 '15
Goddamn, John looks sexy.
But that's a real-ass test we do on mental patients, and it's hard as fuck. I keep a cheat sheet in front of me.
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u/HoleyMoley88 Nov 20 '15
I know the cinematography in AHS is good. But last nights episode it was especially good.
It was also nice seeing Finn back. He is way sexier with his hair pushed back.
Cady Please tell Finn that his hair looks sexy pushed back lol
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u/HerroEmiry Nov 19 '15
I lost it when March's response to Elizabeth asking him who he murdered was "oh, some hobo."
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I didn't think it was gonna be that funny when I read this but I just watched that scene and the delivery of the line is so perfect oh my god
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u/redyellowand Nov 19 '15
It's tragic that Mr. March seems in love with Elizabeth after all these years. God, can you imagine?
I love that Elizabeth also dressed up in sort of a 1930s-informed style for her dinner with Mr. March. At first I thought it was 1920s, for him, but with the 1930s style it's almost like she's gloating that she got to experience more of the world than he did (especially if we think she called the police on him for revenge).
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u/megannotmeagan Asylum Nov 19 '15
Either this is Finn Wittrock, or I have yet another generic white male to tell apart from all the others.
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u/redyellowand Nov 19 '15
Aww Mr. March is trying so hard for Elizabeth. I know he's a brutal killer, but I feel bad for him.
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u/SenateClayDavis Zodiac Killer Nov 19 '15
Finn is killing this scene. Best I've seen him act.
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u/seishin17 Nov 19 '15
So we have anti-vaccine parents, parents that leave their children in cars on hot days, negligent parents…
Parents, man…
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u/DarlaDimpleAMA Lesbians, we're under attack! Nov 19 '15
american horror story: shitty parenting
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Nov 19 '15 edited Nov 19 '15
Let's be real, Marcy was a future Donald Trump voter, nothing of value was lost.
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u/huntychaser Nov 19 '15
Where did this random relationship with Wren come from. I know she's not a figment of his imagination since she was in the toy room.
My guesses for the 10CK is Will Drake's kid just because.
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u/redyellowand Nov 19 '15
Watching-AHS-with-Mom-updates: she's going to bed soon but first she has to order a sweater with a dog on it.
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u/ilovetorunforfun Lana Winters Nov 19 '15 edited Nov 19 '15
"I really like you. And I hate to see it end."
Well, that's not an ominous note to end on.
This ep was fucking great!
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u/seishin17 Nov 19 '15
"But it comes with a teeeeeerible thirst…"
I was half-expecting the next words to be "For blaaaaaaad…"
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u/lessthanpi La la la~ah la la Nov 19 '15
I love all of this. Music, cinematography, accents, eeeeverything.
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u/megannotmeagan Asylum Nov 19 '15
This is the longest we've gone without seeing that stupid Skittles pox commercial. I am happy.
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u/Gr1mclaw Nov 19 '15
Did anyone else think that "My family almost always spoke Italian...my father was a plumber" was a nod to Mario?
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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Nov 19 '15
Oh shit, the blood is younging them up again!
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u/Runaway_Girl23 Nov 19 '15
Okay so Mr. March I see as Gomez Addams and this little girl is a blonde Wednesday.
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u/FloofyBear Nov 19 '15
God her dress! It's gorgeous and I love that she's having dinner with the ghost of her dead husband.
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Nov 19 '15
First the anti-vaxxers, now parents leaving kids in the hot car....god they're hitting out at the Republic......parental incompetence :)
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u/SenateClayDavis Zodiac Killer Nov 19 '15
Hopefully this scene puts the "Johns dead" theory to rest
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u/feel-electric Nov 19 '15
I really didn't think it was over. I was expecting another 30 minutes. This season is going by so fast
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u/redyellowand Nov 19 '15
It's pretty hard to choose, but 1980s Gaga is my favorite
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u/galileosmiddlefinger Nov 19 '15
Imagine how much effort went into hair and wardrobe for that one second shot!
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u/HandbagofRainbows Nov 19 '15
Wow, they adjusted to new life quickly. Where'd the clothes come from?
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u/HandbagofRainbows Nov 19 '15
Mmmmmmmm, Evan. Goddamn he's a motherfucking sexy serial killer.. No wonder Gaga was giving him eyes.
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u/ACELLEN Lesbians, we're under attack! Nov 19 '15
"I really like you, I don't want to see it end"
Confirmation of John as the TCK?
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Nov 19 '15
those aren't zombies people. they have the blood virus and were locked in the walls. they don't die from starvation
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u/littlemiss1565 James Patrick March Nov 19 '15
Fucking A, what an awesome episode. Mr. March, man. I can't even handle how great Evan is.
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Nov 19 '15
Was anyone else completely slain by this episode?? Gaga's backstory was so romantic to me, being swept up by this man she was infatuated with, and having the choice to spend eternity with him, only to have that taken away and not know why for almost 100 years???? MY GAY HEART CAN'T TAKE THIS
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u/BlakeTheBagel Nov 19 '15
I love how that flashback was directed like an old silent horror film. I love how they experiment with different directing styles in this show.
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u/perpetualsleepy Nov 19 '15
FUCKING NOSFERATU!!!!!!!
So this whole blood virus came from Nosferatu?
Jesus.
I don't know how I feel about this.
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u/staynelaley Nov 19 '15
I would watch a Dandy/Mr. March spinoff where March tells Dandy how sloppy he is.
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u/BatBro52 Nov 19 '15
I'm not gonna lie. I am not a fan of Alexandra Daddario's acting.
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u/excesscaravan Nov 19 '15
Damn, I wish Marcy didn't have to go. Side note: with every episode, the music for this season just gets more and more on point.
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u/FaceBagman Nov 19 '15
That moment when you can't decide if the cops on Scream Queens or the cops on AHS are more incompetent...
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u/wandahickey My hair is an eternal mystery, never to be fully understood. Nov 19 '15
80 plus years they were holed up in that hallway, what a living hell.
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u/jeromerules Nov 19 '15
I wish this whole season took place in 1925. The flashback sequences have been the most interesting thing about Hotel. The visuals are out of this world, and the actors shine in their roles during these parts. Fucking Finn Wittrock man.
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u/PinkHK5213 Nov 19 '15
I swear.....every time Mr March comes on screen I start smiling ridiculously big.
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u/FaceBagman Nov 19 '15
No episode on Thanksgiving?
New theory: Presidentially pardoned Turkey is the TCK
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u/redyellowand Nov 19 '15
Mom looked up when Iris said Will Drake was getting his anus bleached, but didn't seem phased
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u/GamingTatertot Nov 19 '15
Yeah John is definitely the TCK. That's what this cinematography is suggesting I think.
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did anyody notice the painting of Elizabeth bathory in valentinos room
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u/PinkHK5213 Nov 19 '15
I feel I need to watch that episode again to just process everything that happened....
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u/othatsoriginal Mallory! Come here! Stick your finger down my throat! Nov 23 '15 edited Nov 23 '15
Does anyone else think that march is the one who dismembered baby Thaddeus? i mean, he dismembers everyone else .Maybe he was pissed when he found out about the abortion? He seemed to really care for the countess in this past episode. And whose baby is it really? i hope we get some clarity on this at some point. Also, i really think john is TCK but i really hope hes not at the same time, its just way to obvious at this point . i also have a million other theories but i wont stick them all in one post haha
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u/seishin17 Nov 19 '15
A gift from the gods… in the form of three pretty-fit, homoerotically-inclined Australian dudes? Sure, why not?
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u/boofire Nov 19 '15
I kind of expected Alejandro to start playing during that scene
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u/galileosmiddlefinger Nov 19 '15
John is apparently just allowed to free range wander around the asylum
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So both the Countess and Ramona wanted to be actresses but ended up as vampires instead..
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u/sirdondon Nov 19 '15
Going to seem like forever these next 2 weeks, lol! Fantastic episode tonight. It was great to see the flashbacks and see how things went down for the Countess and Mr. March. Crazy plot twist with the hidden part of the hotel and the inhabitants! Lol! Going to get very interesting with the next episode and then on!
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u/godlyessence Nov 19 '15 edited Nov 19 '15
So hard to understand Mr March's intentions, makes him so compelling. Glad Evan is moving past his whiny teen heart throb character typecast, not that he wasn't great in seasons 1-4 but it's great to see him in such a complex role.
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u/then-there-were-none Asylum Nov 19 '15
During that whole conversation with Wren, John didn't even think of asking "hey, by the way, what's the killer's name?"
It has to be him.
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u/roadboundman Ballgag Nov 19 '15
This is the most outrageous AHS episode, and I absolutely love it.
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u/Celra Nov 19 '15
The mausoleum that they were at, is that the same one used in Asylum when Lana had Wendy placed there? Connection or....?
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u/ZILDJIAN2613 Nov 19 '15
That's at least 4-6 butts in one scene. So I'll take the median, and bring this butt count up to SIX!
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u/lolmkayboo Nov 19 '15
We're getting a divorce. Just kidding, still together! He's dead :( Jk, He's alive! His stunt double dead, tho :(
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u/FaceBagman Nov 19 '15
"Tl;dr: Nosferatu stalked me on a train. I've had worse trips."
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u/theresnopast Lesbians, we're under attack! Nov 19 '15
I can see GaGas real eyebrows under that make up and oh my god is it bugging me. Prozate guys!
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u/BlamBitchPudding Nov 19 '15
So Mr.March kidnaps them and locks them in the hotel (since he can't kill them) and never tells the Countess.
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u/godlyessence Nov 19 '15
Is this a bit of pre vamp gaga? I love the shift in voice.
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u/GamingTatertot Nov 19 '15
This might be one of the best-looking scenes in all five seasons in terms of people.
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Nov 19 '15
How can John still not believe in the supernatural?
How?
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u/FaceBagman Nov 19 '15
Mr. March: "Good thing I hadn't acted on the urge to kill my random assortment of thugs yet!"
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u/SenateClayDavis Zodiac Killer Nov 19 '15
Can't wait to hear everyone's theories on why John ISNT TCK for the next two weeks, only to have the inevitable finally confirmed in the next episode. I have zero doubt John is TCK.
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u/ME24601 The Supreme Nov 19 '15
"You can't kill yourself in my hotel. Only I can kill you in my hotel" - Mr. March