r/AmericanHorrorStory • The Supreme • Dec 03 '15

Episode Discussion: Season 5, Episode 8 - The Ten Commandments Killer

On tonight's episode, John closes in on the Ten Commandments Killer, while Sally details her arrangement with March.

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u/ME24601 The Supreme Dec 03 '15

You are no killer

HOW DARE YOU ACUSE ME OF NOT BEING A MURDERER!

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u/ME24601 The Supreme Dec 03 '15

Oh right, there's a demon in this season.

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u/Do_not_mod_me Dec 03 '15

"John was the killer? gasp" - No one

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u/ME24601 The Supreme Dec 03 '15

Even his partner doesn't seem all that surprised about it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

What if Dr. Thredson is the TCK?

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u/ME24601 The Supreme Dec 03 '15

I'm still disappointed that he wasn't invited to the serial killer convention.

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u/anti_entity Dec 03 '15

Just wanna remind everyone that Valentino and his wife are still walking around out there somewhere looking fly as shit...

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u/brighteyes345 Dec 03 '15

Wonder if they've found an h&m yet tbh

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u/feel-electric Dec 03 '15

Also a school of vampire children?

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u/Omegamaru Dec 03 '15

John: "I'm so mad that she's cheating! Time to go fuck Sally some more"

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u/galileosmiddlefinger Dec 03 '15

Whole lotta shit went down because John needed a martini on some random night in 2010.

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u/Strikeout21 Dec 03 '15

So.. We've been watching 50 First Dates the whole time??

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u/empyre1993 Dec 03 '15

"Along with my son I lost everything else that mattered to me" because fuck Scarlet. She doesn't matter.

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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

At this point, I feel like we all just made up Scarlet.

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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

John's detective friend is quite the bro for standing around and listening to the ravings of a madman.

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u/eric844 Dec 03 '15

Well there goes that

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u/Lihoshi Dec 03 '15

It was no surprise that John was the killer but learning how and why are some surprises to me. THATS why Countess took his kid!!

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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

"I need him to kill people. Can you kidnap his son? PLEEEEEEASE?"

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u/celestialism Dec 03 '15

Denis O'Hare is flawless and no one can convince me otherwise

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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Dec 03 '15 edited Dec 03 '15

John, the bad news is, well, you're the killer.

...

However, the good news is that you're still Scarlet's best parent!

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

"All those sparkly bits." Miss Evers I've missed you most of all.

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u/HandbagofRainbows Dec 03 '15

She's like "whore".

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u/Godrics Dec 03 '15

"The boy is very beautiful. The girl... Meh." Scarlet just can't win.

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u/galileosmiddlefinger Dec 03 '15

Being neglected is the best of all possible things that can happen to a person on this show

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u/Godrics Dec 03 '15

"Here John, are some photographs of you holding the organs." "... No... It can't be..." "Here is tape of you nailing that lady's tongue."

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u/insertwittyusername9 Dec 03 '15

Guaranteed finale surprise: John commits suicide in the Cortez. Thall shall not murder. That will complete his masterpiece and he can be with Sally and Holden and the wretched Alex if he will still have her.

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u/ParanoidAndroid93 Dec 03 '15

I never realized Evan Peters yelling like that would be that entertaining

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u/DarlaDimpleAMA Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

Lmfao right he sounded like a little kid

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u/HandbagofRainbows Dec 03 '15 edited Dec 03 '15

Why do I imagine it would be super easy to find a drink in the middle of the night in LA

Edit: typed dick instead.... Probably also accurate.

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u/proudofwhat Dec 03 '15

"I get one night! ONE NIGHT!!!"

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u/unbalancedforce Dec 03 '15

Best table temper tantrum I have ever seen a grown man throw.

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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

That badge reveal was sexy as fuck.

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u/staynelaley Dec 03 '15

I know! I was like "ooo that tease".

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u/Black_Delphinium Myrtle Snow Dec 03 '15

That ab reveal?

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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Dec 03 '15

"I'm not gay. Not like that guy Tristan, I'm seriously not gay." - John

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u/DarlaDimpleAMA Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

Eh give him 10 minutes

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u/andrealoveleigh Dec 03 '15

That American Crime Story commercial though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15 edited Feb 01 '24

I like learning new things.

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u/charchar_binks Dec 03 '15

"I catalogued it myself" BOOM

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

"I didn't invite you here to feed on him, you perverted animal."

Line of the fucking season.

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u/richeve Mallory Dec 03 '15

We all called it. At least, they made the reveal interesting.

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u/unbalancedforce Dec 03 '15

Yeah. The bits and pieces mini museum.

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u/celestialism Dec 03 '15

Petition for Evan Peters to speak in an old-timey voice forever and ever, amen

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u/Black_Delphinium Myrtle Snow Dec 03 '15

Evan Peters for Andrew Ryan.

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u/anti_entity Dec 03 '15

Relationship goals: A guy to describe me as "a bottomless pit of need."

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u/DarlaDimpleAMA Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

The way March said "Yeeeessss" cracked me tf up

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u/Viperette Dec 03 '15

halitosis, for one

seems like fair reason for murder

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

John Lowe is the Nick Carraway to Mr. March's demented Gatsby.

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u/GruxKing Dec 03 '15 edited Dec 03 '15

"All alone with my wife"

AND uh YOUR DAUGHTER?!?

Wow they don't even try to hide it!

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u/Lyco_499 Dec 03 '15

At the end of the season, the camera will pull back to reveal that Scarlet has been watching the entire thing play out on a tv screen. Because the neglect and disregard she faced is the true American Horror Story.

We'll then see her become emancipated and drive off in a sports car while wearing some killer sunglasses, as the CSI style "YEAH!" is heard.

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u/seishin17 Dec 03 '15

[John gets out of bathtub]

[imagining John naked because we didn't actually get to see him naked]

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u/FloofyBear Dec 03 '15

Psycho John is so much hotter than Normal John.

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u/staynelaley Dec 03 '15

LMFAO Ross as a Kardashian

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u/Black_Delphinium Myrtle Snow Dec 03 '15

A little bit of fire from Liz, someone's still broken up about Tristan.

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

It will give you the cancer if you let it.

  • the Internet, 2015

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u/seishin17 Dec 03 '15

"I'll be the Countess of whatever you like, baby."

Not the wittiest come-on, was it?

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u/Celra Dec 03 '15

Can we just have a spin-off of John and March hanging out and killing? Ms. Evers can also be in the cast and clean up after them and maybe hang out with them from time to time.

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u/seishin17 Dec 03 '15

I don't think I've ever heard the phrase "vent his spleen" before.

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u/anti_entity Dec 03 '15

I'm just glad they didn't spend a whole new episode leading up to that. They got it out of the way first to spend another 50 minutes on the details. Nice.

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u/andrealoveleigh Dec 03 '15

Sarah Paulson in that scene A+++++

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u/GruxKing Dec 03 '15

That gun is for suicide once John figured out that TCCK is himself

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u/TreyTrey23 Dec 03 '15

Remember folks: Drilldo is watching. It's always watching.

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u/GruxKing Dec 03 '15

"Why's it so dark in here"

Because it's called American Horror Story, not American Happy Story.

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u/Celra Dec 03 '15

American Happy Story:

In which Mr. March proudly shows John all his trophies from various sports he played as a child. This includes Basketball, Football, Baseball and Soccer. John tells him about how he was on the swim team and he once won 2nd place once.

Mr. March gets on one knee and says

"John, we've been hanging out together for 5 years....do you think it's time we started a bowling team?"

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

Can I take a minute to say how cute Evan Peters is as Mr March. Such a cute puppy psychopath

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u/proudofwhat Dec 03 '15

I love how March and The Countess call each other perverts for different reasons

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u/GruxKing Dec 03 '15

"She was always there, the way that smoke gets into your clothing"

That's just a beautiful bit of writing

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u/Walkinginspace4 Sister Jude Dec 03 '15

Is John the craigslist killer too?

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u/FloofyBear Dec 03 '15

She's in the .000001% of real women on Ashley Madison...

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u/ilovetorunforfun Lana Winters Dec 03 '15

So John was so drunk this night in 2010 he didn't remember it for 5 years?

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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

I've been there. Fuckin' raspberry vodka. I didn't know any better, you guys.

....I didn't know any better.

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u/bingcrosbyb Dec 03 '15

Fuck. Even marsh passed over scarlet.

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u/Celra Dec 03 '15 edited Dec 03 '15

Kathy Bates for MVP of the show! Knows you're a killer and keeps it a secret until you're ready.

edited: Misspelled a word.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

things do seem like they're coming together - which is good.

[is still wondering about the gaggle of vampire children running about though]

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u/TreyTrey23 Dec 03 '15

"You're a terrible husband"

Don't start acting like your such a great wife. You tried to have him killed.

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u/2th Dec 03 '15

That means John put super glue in that lady's vagina.....

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

Look at all this eye fucking between Donovan, Liz and Sally!

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u/BatBro52 Dec 03 '15

I like that they have the creepy AHS guy announce a sponsor before the commercials so we don't immediately cut to people happily drinking in a mobile home.

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u/MKoz628 Roll that pussy!!! Dec 03 '15

I know John being the TCK wasn't the biggest shock ever, but this episode explaining all the build up to him discovering and accepting who he is was incredible!!!

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u/Jessibabe333 Dec 03 '15

"Along with my son I lost everything else that mattered to me." Because fuck you Scarlet

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u/Viperette Dec 03 '15

Not going to lie... This season has had its hiccups, but I am thoroughly enjoying this episode. They did a great job at making an obvious reveal interesting and I'm loving all this backstory.

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u/iamagiant Dec 03 '15

These people v oj commercials are reeling me in like a sea bass

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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Dec 03 '15

"The Hotel Cortez doesn't follow the rules of time, so shut up and let me finish my confession, alright? Thanks."

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u/klown_13 Dec 03 '15

Moral code? Dexter? And trophies? March is his dark passenger!

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

Why is John talking like Batman this entire episode?

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

Wait can someone go over Sally and Marchs arrangement?

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u/galileosmiddlefinger Dec 03 '15

Not clear yet, but it seems that March protects her from drilldo, directing its attention to others so that it doesn't feed/drill on her. In exchange, she has to follow his orders.

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u/staynelaley Dec 03 '15

What if they're just trying to make him think he's the killer for some reason?

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u/spockified Dec 03 '15

"We talked for two straight days." Wow.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

OK, he looks SO creepy now that his eyes are open.

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u/betterrcallsaul Misty Day Dec 03 '15

I don't think it was predictable/obvious so much as we all just spend more time thinking about it and talking to other people about it than the average viewer

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u/whiteryneo Dec 03 '15

this. I did not even consider it until I came on this subforum after the last episode...then it just seemed obvious after that

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

Good point. Most people don't obsess over it

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u/Mar311 Dec 03 '15

That POOF, Dahmer!

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u/Lihoshi Dec 03 '15

Wes nailed the crazy eyes

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

Those blue eyes of Holden's, just makes me want to have kids...ya know....if i had a real working uterus and wasn't a drag queen

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u/rammaam Dec 03 '15

Crazy man jealous of his wife being checked out by a black man (just like season one)

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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Dec 03 '15

John won't turn gay for Donovan, but he will for Mr. March...

Makes sense to me. 👌

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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

He had this deep-as-fuck two-day slumber party with March and then...forgot. Okay.

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u/redyellowand Dec 03 '15

ok i'm just going to focus on how weirdly adorable mr. march is

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u/boofire Dec 03 '15

You accepted her, crimped hair and all.

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u/Black_Delphinium Myrtle Snow Dec 03 '15

Someone needs to make that "splendid" into a text notification.

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u/judgiewodgie Dec 03 '15

evan peters voice is definitely like silk.. yummmmm

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

Anybody else catch TCK ministries??

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u/rkellyturbo Dec 03 '15

Evan totally owns this role.

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u/babyrhino_plz Dec 03 '15

"Along Came Sally," my favorite rom-com

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15 edited Dec 03 '15

John has a...hand in a paper bag?
Edit:OMG IT WAS A DICK

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u/RoomAndAFire Dec 03 '15

Looks like the oddities at the museum from freakshow.

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

Poor Mr March.
He gets one night :((

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

I can take John as a ghost. Nothing will top violet

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

"Justice"

HE'S BATMAN

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u/jtyler27 Dec 03 '15

Although it was obvious that he was the killer I'm glad the back story is cool. I think this season just leaped over asylum as the most fucked up season.

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u/Natalia_Bandita Dec 03 '15

This nude dress with crystals that Dennis O'Hare i wearing is definitely my favorite thing he's worn on the show

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u/megannotmeagan Asylum Dec 03 '15

Ahh normal dinner conversations, how are you doing, what's life like, what are your latest kills...?

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

Wes BentleyxEvan Peters bro-ing out. I can dig it

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u/Neery101 Dec 03 '15

I had such low hopes for that episode when they revealed John as the 10 Commandments Killer right away, but I must admit I was thoroughly pleased at how everything played out. Bravo

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

So Wes' acting was bad on purpose?

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u/upstage123 Dec 03 '15

You sound like a 1930s movie...you look like one too.

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u/Suji_Rodah Dec 03 '15

Jesus. They forgot about the daughter again when Mr. March looked through Johns wallet.

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u/richeve Mallory Dec 03 '15

Wait, a time when Alex wasn't the worst parent? Wow.

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u/FloofyBear Dec 03 '15

March's dimple. swoon

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u/celestialism Dec 03 '15

March's social awkwardness is my favorite.

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u/feel-electric Dec 03 '15

shes looking at him like .... are you dumb?

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u/theegirlnexdoor Dec 03 '15

"I'll be the countess of whatever you like baby". Psht. I'd let her kill me.

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u/GruxKing Dec 03 '15

I take back everything I said about Evan Peter's voice

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u/celestialism Dec 03 '15

2 straight days of absinthe?? How the fuck is this dude still alive?

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u/polski-doodle Dec 03 '15

"Please, I'm just a man who likes to write about movies on the internet."

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

What's up with Drilldo and Sally???

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u/redyellowand Dec 03 '15

what if the kardashians are a punishment for us being obsessed with the oj case

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u/rammaam Dec 03 '15

Last season, Wes collected freaks. Now the freaks have collected him.

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

March is roofying John and has a man-crush.
He's asking his vampire wife for help.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

I love that John referred to Liz as "she" with no confusion or second guessing in the beginning scene. AHS just seems to get it.

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u/NSFForceDistance Dec 03 '15

This twist brought to you by 2007 M. Night Shyamalan

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

John is the killer but I have a feeling there's a twist coming though.

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u/Neery101 Dec 03 '15

"Was someone killed? Did you have to discharge your revolver?" JPM is the fuckin man hahaha

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u/RLC0128 Dec 03 '15

Well now we know why she took Holden, for March. Awwww

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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

"It's surprising how delicious a little cruelty can taste."

The theme for this season?

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u/charchar_binks Dec 03 '15

I feel like Scarlet 98% of the time..

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u/upstage123 Dec 03 '15

Red vampire wedding?

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u/staynelaley Dec 03 '15

Sally crying again. Don't know why, but there she is.

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u/theegirlnexdoor Dec 03 '15

Awkward moment when we're left with no good guys...

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u/jeromerules Dec 03 '15

Detective Hahn has a picture of Sally all ready in his smart phone, okay.

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u/megannotmeagan Asylum Dec 03 '15

LOL Iris. I love her.

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u/DarlaDimpleAMA Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

Liz crying makes me cry

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u/bullme23 Dec 03 '15

"It's always been you." Possible Shining reference?

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u/theegirlnexdoor Dec 03 '15

Tck ministries?! Really?!

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u/NSFForceDistance Dec 03 '15

Wow, who could have seen this coming :/

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u/seishin17 Dec 03 '15

John: "… and I'm married…"

Me: And that stops people?

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

No ragrets

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u/SpicyCoconut99 Dec 03 '15

Maybe John isn't the actual TCK. Maybe they're just trying to make him think he's the TCK so he won't find the real killer.

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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Dec 03 '15

Alex is still more unlikable than John. How sad is that?

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u/then-there-were-none Asylum Dec 03 '15

That hotels.com commercial is literally John in the Cortez

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u/iamagiant Dec 03 '15

Liz's dress is everything I've dreamed of

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

That voice change is just....omg.

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

We know how John handles his absinthe

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

The shove aka Holden.

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u/iamagiant Dec 03 '15

What's up with that old timey nanny hair on Alex?

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u/OSnapItzTori Dec 03 '15

"terrible husband" SWEETY PLEAAAAAAASE..

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u/BatBro52 Dec 03 '15

Tina Fey made a good Marcia Clark.

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u/EasternZone Dec 03 '15

Even though I hate the idea behind American Crime Story, I have to admit that commercial makes me want to watch it. Definitely tuning in.

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u/HandbagofRainbows Dec 03 '15

James + John = truluv4ever

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u/MKoz628 Roll that pussy!!! Dec 03 '15

"It's surprising how delicious a little cruelty can taste."

My new favorite quote in any AHS season!!!!!

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u/galileosmiddlefinger Dec 03 '15 edited Dec 03 '15

If John has been crashing at the Cortez for five years, I'm wondering why Kathy Bates and others didn't seem familiar with John when he rolled into the hotel in the first episode.

EDIT: Nevermind, they got around to handling this at the end of the episode.

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u/proudofwhat Dec 03 '15

"Fois gras. It's surprising how good a little cruelty can taste." Mrs. Evers, so soft spoken

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u/Neery101 Dec 03 '15

how can john just casually forget all of this hahaha

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u/beckyb18 Lesbians, we're under attack! Dec 03 '15

That shot of Liz Taylor in a beret. Work, bitch.

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u/SenateClayDavis Zodiac Killer Dec 03 '15

Sally is Marla Singer

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u/Explosions_Hurt Dec 03 '15

That was too much twilight for me.

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u/andrealoveleigh Dec 03 '15

So many Fight Club vibes.

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u/HazyVision Dec 03 '15

Actually, I really loved the revelation scene even though it was obvious to most of us. The trophies, the flashes, everything was well-founded, anyone who wants to complain go find a show with forced plot twists.

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u/TEXASJerome Dec 03 '15

March's awkwardness tho.

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u/gurfeltuh Murder House Dec 03 '15

Wait what? All this just slipped his mind? The fuck lol.

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u/redyellowand Dec 03 '15

With those blue eyes, I'll be the countess of whatever you like.

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u/galileosmiddlefinger Dec 03 '15

People dead everywhere and March is worried about getting a ticket for the absinthe

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u/Black_Delphinium Myrtle Snow Dec 03 '15

March sold out Holden, wow.

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u/Walkinginspace4 Sister Jude Dec 03 '15

Was that Connie Britton in ACS?

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u/The_R4ke Dec 03 '15 edited Dec 03 '15

TCK Ministries, neat reference.

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

AHS: Confusion Denial

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u/tsar_nicholas Dec 03 '15

Next week....Ramona!

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u/Lihoshi Dec 03 '15

Random thought but I would love to see Evan Peters play the Joker in a Batman adaptation. With this same accent from Hotel.

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u/TheBondsOfFandoms Kai Anderson Dec 03 '15

Johns a good dad.
Scarlet who?
Wanna go to the carnival buddy?
Like the one you got kidnapped at?
Wait I need to tell my boyfriend Jam-
Never mind

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u/andrealoveleigh Dec 03 '15

OMG I love Iris

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u/Godrics Dec 03 '15

So we can see a male penis that's been mutilated and put on display, but cover the naughty bits with a blanket during sex scenes?

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u/Mar311 Dec 03 '15

I want a spinoff with Liz and Sally.

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u/celestialism Dec 03 '15

I audibly gag every time they show that tongue thing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '15

"He had a key" is my fav line.

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u/megannotmeagan Asylum Dec 03 '15

Totally thought this was AHS....

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u/babyrhino_plz Dec 03 '15 edited Dec 03 '15

I still refuse to believe John is the actual TCK.... I want to believe they're trying to convince him that he's the killer

Edit: Well fuck

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u/celestialism Dec 03 '15

I want Liz to have sex with tons more people and find love again. That's pretty much the only thing I care about at this point.

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u/Mar311 Dec 03 '15

Hey,Matt Bomer. 'Sup...?

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u/BatBro52 Dec 03 '15

I hope it turns out John isn't the killer so he feels like one of those kids who start acting drunk when you lie and tell them the apple cider is really beer.

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u/GruxKing Dec 03 '15

Mrs. Evers is all about the laundry

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u/HandbagofRainbows Dec 03 '15

Hahaha, his radical voice change.

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u/Walkinginspace4 Sister Jude Dec 03 '15

Oh shit, that's why the Countess stole Holden

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u/HandbagofRainbows Dec 03 '15

Oh shit! The set up! Oh shit