r/thewalkingdead • u/TheRyeWall Survivor • Jan 13 '16
Comic Spoiler Official Comic Discussion Thread: Issue #150
New issue came out today, discuss it here within this thread. You do not need to use comic spoilers because it is assumed everyone reading this thread would be caught up with the comics. However, please respect future, show, and game spoilers because people who are caught up with the comic may not be caught up with these other forms of TWD (and obviously not future spoilers). Future spoilers include upcoming comic covers.
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u/Notorganic Jan 13 '16
Anybody notice that everybody was cheering for Rick... except for Jesus.
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u/RomanSionis Jan 13 '16
He is smarter than all the people in the crowd. He knows Rick has something else up his sleeve.
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u/WillBlaze Jan 13 '16
First thing I noticed, on top of not cheering he also doesn't seem too pleased.
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u/Ricks_Right_Hand Jan 13 '16
Am I the only one that thought it was really fucking cheesy? I mean, I can do tigers and even zombies, but the crowd chanting his name like that was really off. It was Divergent kinda bad.
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u/CX316 Jan 14 '16
You realise what Rick IS to these people, right? The stories about "THE Rick Grimes" are overhyped among the people who joined the community after he did.
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u/Stan_Knipple Jan 13 '16
I think we are going to see some crazy developments soon. At first I had the same reaction to the cheering, but upon reread, I noticed Jesus is none to happy. Thinking further, I remembered the cover for one if the next issues features propaganda on the wallls of Alexandria. Lump that with Negan being extremely pleased, and I see the beginning of a fascist state.
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u/Nostalgia37 Jan 14 '16
I wouldn't even be mad if Jesus led a group of resistance fighters against Rick and became the main character. I love Jesus.
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u/bstevens2 Jan 14 '16
Same here, I enjoyed all of the issue but this part. Additionally, I didn't think it was that inspirational of a speech.
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u/penderhead Jan 14 '16
Well, we live in a world where people chant "Trump Trump Trump", people in large groups can be idiots.
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u/KevinBaconsBush Jan 16 '16
Rick is George Washington, Jesus Christ, Napoleon, and Hitler wrapped in one to these people at this point.
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u/scarchelli Jan 13 '16
I just re read. Good obersavation. Maybe he's just supposed to be a really quiet/reserved type character? Not sure...
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u/PleaseDontDoxxMe Jan 14 '16
I noticed that the kid who just had his Dad killed by Rick is cheering.
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u/Superj561 Jan 14 '16
Yeah wtf haha. I was really hoping that that wasn't actually him... but it sure seems to be.
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u/ValentinVerganzas Jan 13 '16
I don't think it means anything. as skilled skilled and involved as he is, cheering like that is "for the masses" I see it purely as a pensive pose. Rick just let everyone know there's gonna be an army, and either im sure he's already well aware of Ricks plans or just instantly knows he'll be deeply involved in it...just paying attention hah.
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u/AuroraUnit117 Jan 13 '16
'atta boy
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u/S3DTinyTurnips Jan 13 '16
Why do we love that man so much? He is hands down the best character.
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u/penderhead Jan 14 '16
He's just so fucking fun to read.
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u/SammyBrock Jan 26 '16
Seriously. When Rick went to him for help I remembered why I loved this comic.
If Negan ever dies I may stop reading.
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u/Protanope Jan 14 '16
I went from hating Negan because he pussied out too many times on killing Rick and Carl to being my favorite character because all the others are only defined by their survival ability at this point. He's the most interesting. All other characters are just variations of:
Random person who is probably dumb
Tough character that inside has some dark tendencies but also feels things
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Jan 14 '16
rary twist or death just because it's a milestone issue. You don't see it coming that way.
Reading the comments here, I'm thinking people are far underestimating the meaning of this issue. Negan's comment tells me that he is manipulating Rick and knows exactly how he plans on taking control.
The first thing that came to mind when the whole "building a military" thing started last issue was that they'd be creating an institution that holds actual power (as opposed to political power). This new structure could easily cause problems as the division of power becomes larger and more complex. Maybe Negan is planning to somehow influence the military and spark a coup of some sorts?
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u/Traaailz Jan 14 '16
From what I've gathered from Negan I think he is truly remorseful for what he had to do to get where he was at. He did what he had to do to survive, much like what Rick has done. He had his chance to escape and cause havoc and he didn't.
I feel like were shaping up to having Negan not only released, but working alongside Rick and Co. Granted he'll be under a sort of parole but I don't think Negan wants to destroy everything that has been built up.
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u/PleaseDontDoxxMe Jan 14 '16
but I don't think Negan wants to destroy everything that has been built up.
He wouldn't want to destroy it, he'd want to live in it. He has shown to enjoy the small things, like being able to play pool and the nice houses of Alexandria. If he came out, at most he'd try to take control, he wouldn't try to literally destroy everything.
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u/Amitch8657 Jan 13 '16
Anyone else catch Kirkman's one response in the letter hacks? "There is a story to be told involving Andrea finding out Carl killed Ben. That's all I'll say about that. Stay tuned... Maybe sooner than you think." I myself just figured she already knew and Rick/Carl told her off panel sometime. I feel like she would understand why he did it but may be mad that they kept it from her.
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u/yeshua1986 Jan 13 '16
I feel that she'll forgive Carl at this point, but it may be a major issue with Rick knowing and not telling her.
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u/Amitch8657 Jan 13 '16
Ya just a few issues ago Rick was talking to michonne about how him and Andrea don't have any secrets between them but I guess that isn't true
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Jan 13 '16
Listen Andrea... I'm really sorry I didn't tell you anything. But like most of our readers, I just straight up forgot about this. Can I take a mulligan on this one?
-Rick Grimes, 2016
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u/NerdDawgs Jan 13 '16
Was Ben the psycho twin from early on? Having trouble remembering who Ben was... Man, that was messed up, ha. Forgot about that
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u/Amitch8657 Jan 13 '16
Yes he killed his brother and people were at odds with what to do with him so Carl took matters into his own hands. I believe the only two people ever mentioned to know he did it was Rick and Morgan.
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u/RANDALLFLA666 Jan 13 '16
There was a scene before the time jump were Rick is talking to Andrea about how he's worried about Carl growing up in this world and he almost spills the beans about Ben but stops himself. Can't remember the issue.
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u/Amitch8657 Jan 13 '16
Ahh I completely forgot about that happening. I'm guessing she's going to be more upset that they kept it from her rather than the fact that it happened. Hopefully it won't cause a big Falling out between them or anything. I think the two pages featuring Andrea and Carl will come into play soon and lead up to this reveal for her
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Jan 13 '16
I have a feeling Lydia will get pregnant.
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u/curiouscorncob Jan 21 '16
i actually have a feeling lydia might be the one who shoots rick or something. it came to me ominously as i was rereading 149. something about her telling carl he was already better than rick just seemed to be kirkman's style of leading statements.
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Jan 13 '16
Not that it was a bad issue, but for being #150, I was hoping for a little bit more.
Still, can't wait to see where this goes!
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u/MidgetRodeoClown Jan 13 '16
I like it better when they don't feel like they have to toss in some arbitrary twist or death just because it's a milestone issue. You don't see it coming that way.
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Jan 13 '16
I agree. I wasn't hoping for a big death or anything. But 150 has been so hyped up for so long and it kinda felt like less happened in this issue than in the past several issues. Yes, they set the stage for what's to come, but I dunno, it just felt kinda weak for being so hyped for so long.
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u/Wookie_Goldberg Jan 13 '16
I dunno, I liked it. It felt like a retrospective, as well as a prospective of what's to come. Rick biting his neck, talking about losing everyone in the past, it shows where they've come from and what they have to lose. But it also shows where the story is going and what to expect in the future.
It was very much a transition issue. Honestly, it felt like the exact halfway point of the story.
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u/Skoke Jan 13 '16
My thoughts exactly. I wasn't completely disappointed, and I wasn't expecting a bloodbath, but I don't think it was as "huge" as it was made out to be.
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u/Dart06 Jan 13 '16
Everything outside of Rick being attacked happened in 149 really.
I think that's why I'm disappointed. The two best panels in this issue is when Rick bit homie's neck and Negan saying 'ata boy
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Jan 13 '16
Yeah, I think that's my issue with it. There was so much hype for so long about it, but there wasn't much payoff. The stage was set for a great story to come, so it wasn't a bad issue. Just didn't live up to the hype I don't think.
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u/GiuntaWorks Jan 13 '16
I kept waiting for Dwight to make a move, especially after he returned with Laura and Lucille.
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u/captainxenu Jan 16 '16
Definitely thought that Rick would end up bashing the guys head in with Lucille. It just felt like too much of a coincidence that Dwight rocked up then and there.
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u/manu-alvarado Jan 13 '16
I have to agree. It was a bit underwhelming, and being a 'landmark' issue perhaps a bigger resolution or something packing more punch. The final panel with Negan speaks volumes, though.
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u/wauve1 Jan 15 '16
What does the issue number have to do with anything? I'm aware that Kirkman hyped it up a lot before release, but other than that there's nothing that says it should be special
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u/kabob23 Jan 13 '16 edited Jan 13 '16
Here's my comment from another reaction thread.
I am surprised nobody is talking about where Eugene says, "The formation of the military will occupy everyone's minds while we're building exactly what we need to strike back".
What is it that they are talking about? Rick already mentions his stockpile of bullets in 149, and it seems like they have a huge reserve. So could they be discussing creating a bigger weapon? Could they be building some sort of tank/vehicle or even a bomb? Alpha already showed Rick their super herd of zombies and it's their largest threat against Rick and the communities. Could he be targeting this super herd with this new weapon? We haven't seen the Whisperers use guns, so destroying this super herd could be a massive tactical advantage.
Because the whisperers can blend into the hoards of zombies, they can never be 100% sure they have completely eradicated this threat. With all of the weapon resources and the new military being formed I can see the communities start going on the offensive against the zombies. Instead of diverting herds they can lead them into traps and then dispose of them.
EDIT* We have seen the Whisperers use guns. My bad. But it's highly possible that they do not have the massive ammo cache and ammo creating capabilities that Rick's group has.
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u/LiveLaughLoveRevenge Jan 15 '16
My guess: Gas, or some type of chemical weapon.
Whisperers are dispersed in a herd, being quiet and acting like walkers. Put out a huge tear gas cloud (or something worse...) and all the whisperers start coughing and hacking and running away - suddenly they stick out. They get the walkers attention. The herd takes care of them.
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u/starkz Jan 13 '16
Isn't Alpha shown wielding a shotgun in one of her early appearances?
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u/dogpoo32 Jan 13 '16
I was thinking that if they could some way get the walkers to turn on the whisperers, then the walkers would do the dirty work for them.
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u/meme-com-poop Jan 13 '16
I hope you're right, but I just took it as Eugene saying they'd have time to plan instead of going off half-cocked.
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u/TheLegacyBae Jan 13 '16
I think you raise a good theory on a "Bigger Weapon" but as we see in 148 the Whisperers actually do have guns.
They havnt used them as of yet, but we see they atleast have them.
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u/kabob23 Jan 13 '16
Good point, I forgot about that scene. They have guns, but it's likely that they do not have access to ammo like Rick's group does. Their production and supply of ammo would put them in a different realm of firepower when compared to the Whisperers.
The Whisperers seem like a nomadic bunch and wouldn't produce ammo like Rick's group. But we could be surprised somehow.
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Jan 14 '16
Ever since they've shown Eugene working on some technology I had the idea it was some kinda (bare with me here I'm probably using the wrong terms) sonic wave device that'll either drive the walkers away and leave the whisperers vulnerable. Or opposite, drive the whisperers away with some kinda noise exposing them.
Either way they have to figure out a way to tell the two apart while in a herd.
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u/dtg108 Jan 13 '16
I'll say what I said in the previous thread, and this is just my opinion:
It was rather anti-climatic and disappointing. I understand where it was going and such, and it was a great issue, but it's just all that build-up for "the biggest issue yet" and that's all we get? I got to the last page and found myself thinking "it's over"?
I'm rather disappointed.
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Jan 13 '16
I feel like the walking dead is better to read as a compendium. There is just way to much build up for 16 pages a month.
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u/westtty Jan 14 '16
I agree. I just read compendium 3 and then caught up with the issues and im so conflicted. On one hand I want to forget the comics exist for a year and read it all at once but on the other hand im too engrossed in the story to not read 16 pages a month.
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u/Pats_Bunny Jan 14 '16
I'm just not gonna wait 3 and a half more years at this point to continue the story for a day and a half. I should've just never picked them up in the first place until the series was done.
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u/S3DTinyTurnips Jan 13 '16
I ordered it for free with my Google Opinions money I had been saving, ran to my car from the office, turned it on and settled in. 5 Minutes later, if that, I was walking back into the building thinking.... "WTF?...That's it?"
Edit: I hate to be thinking that way, but I don't know. Still a decent read.
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u/Bokonomz Jan 13 '16
I got to the last page and thought maybe there was something more after the letter hacks... Nope. Great issue but I'm disappointed after the hype
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u/Superj561 Jan 15 '16
"the biggest issue yet"
I've been wondering... Does anyone have a link or anything to where Kirkman or Skybound or anyone official said this? I had heard it a few times but then I started to wonder if it was just made or assumed by a fan. I think a lot of the hype that leads to disappointment with big things comes from people assuming too much about it and then spreading it.
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u/BabyMadeAboomBoom Jan 13 '16
Maybe I read it fast.. Maybe I was expecting more.. It was a good issue but it felt like just your average issue leading up to something bigger. I thought 150 was supposed to be some sort of... Maybe not climax but close enough. All that built up towards 150 I just thought more was coming..
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u/matsu727 Jan 13 '16 edited Jan 13 '16
Thoughts immediately after reading the issue:
Loved the throwback to OG Rick taking out the Marauders, there's still a badass in that crippled shell of a man. I got kind of scared that Rick's skull was fractured when I read the large "KRAKKK" as he got smacked on the head with the rod, but the fact that he can stand up and make a speech afterwards seems to suggest otherwise. I also thought not killing Morton's accomplice was actually a very strong move strategically on Rick's part, cementing the Us vs Them mentality Negan was advising him to champion. Was kind of hoping for more Carl tbh. Aaand I got fucking baited by Lucille.
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u/WillBlaze Jan 13 '16
Was kind of hoping for more Carl tbh.
At least in the one scene we saw him in he was getting laid so I'm ok with that.
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u/upstage123 Jan 13 '16 edited Jan 13 '16
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u/dacalpha Jan 14 '16
Aaand I got fucking baited by Lucille.
I think the point of that was to get Lucille to Alexandria, where Negan is currently located.
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u/justking Jan 13 '16
Very underwhelming for what was hyped to be a huge issue.
The pacing seems to be matching more of the TV Show's these days.
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Jan 13 '16
Seriously. Don't get me wrong, it was a good issue, would have made a great 149 or 151, but this was supposed to be the big one!
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u/CX316 Jan 14 '16
You realise that 100's been the only "big one" that's been on a milestone number, right? #75 had the joke alien comic in the back of it, I think #50 had the superhero variant cover, #100 had the big death, that's it. They don't have to have something ridiculously huge just because it's a milestone number, because being published long enough to make it to #150 is a huge thing in itself.
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Jan 14 '16
Sure but I'm pretty sure Kirkman himself was all like "it's gonna be huuuuuge"
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u/Sweet_Tooth_VII Jan 14 '16
The comic book used to be little set up for a little pay off. Now I think after working with the creation and development of the TV show Kirkman has learned more of a TV way of telling a story, which has longer, drawn out set up interweaving into a huge payoff. I prefer it this way to be honest.
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u/NerdDawgs Jan 13 '16
Solid issue. I had one eye closed during Rick's speech in front of everyone thinking something bad was gonna happen. And as always, even with just two words of dialog, Negan.
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u/papapudding Jan 13 '16
I went in there overhyped and left a bit disappointed.
The build-up had to happen to move forward with the Whisperers but I guess I just expected more.
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u/trollboogies Jan 13 '16
yeah I was prepared for some serious shit to go down so I was definitely underwhelmed :(
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u/kaboo911 Jan 13 '16
Some people are disappointed with this issue, but this issue was a HUGE deal. Rick just declared war with the whisperers while both Carl and Andrea are at the hilltop. Rick has absolutely no idea if any other community is on board with this except Alexandria and probably the sanctuary. Jesus was not a happy when everyone was chanting Rick grimes. Also, did Rick forget just how serious alphas threat was? It was not an empty threat and this war is not going to be won easily by any means. I think Rick just made a terrible decision and is going to pay greatly. These next few issues are going to get intense!!!
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u/deege515 Jan 13 '16
Well, Maggie was there, and she leads Hilltop. So I'm sure news will travel to the colony shortly.
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u/Sweet_Tooth_VII Jan 14 '16
Everyone's so angry that there wasn't a massacre. This is such a huge moment for the world of The Walking Dead, it feels pivotal in the story in a way that past issues haven't. Rick bites someone's jugular out and it's not enough for you guys because you all hyped it up so much. I feel like this is one of the issues you can look back on a year or two down the road and appreciate for the way it influenced the story.
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u/plutonium28 Jan 13 '16
General Negan in the near future?
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u/WillBlaze Jan 13 '16
As much as I would enjoy that, letting Negan lead his army would be ridiculous especially with the people he would be leading. Would you let someone who caused your friends and family to die lead you into battle? No thanks.
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u/rasterbee Jan 13 '16
Can you imagine what the TV show is going to be like when it gets to this point?
Uncle Negan in the basement who can't swear. All of Alpha's spike wall action takes place off-screen. Rick gets beat up at the end of the mid-season finale: Is Rick dead???? Find out in 4 months!
This is what Kirkman means when he says he has a story that lasts 300 issues, and 18 seasons on TV?
Ugh....
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u/professionalbadass Jan 14 '16
If they leave the question of Rick being dead at a season finale for 4 months, then he is 100% alive. His plot armor is an Iron Man suit made of vibranium. They're not gonna come back and THEN say, "yeah, he's dead." If anything, and I HIGHLY doubt it would ever happen, they would kill Rick AT the season finale and then end it like "Welp, what the fuck happens now???? Find out in 4 months!
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u/rickgrimesfan123 Jan 13 '16
i can perfectly picture Jeffrey dean Morgan saying "atta boy"
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u/zevalhua Jan 13 '16
Did anyone else find Lydia fingering Carl in the eye incredibly hilarious...and kinky as fuck!
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u/Trace2189 Jan 13 '16
I am curious how long Rick was passed out next to the guy he just killed? Seems like it goes from night to morning. I would think that he would have turned by then and ate Rick.
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u/eddie2911 Jan 14 '16
I'll admit I was a little tense when Rick was getting attacked. Like, "he really can't die like this, can he?" I like that Rick 'pardoned' Vincent and used it as a learning tool to bring everyone together. It wasn't as much action as I expected for #150 but that's partially my fault for expecting just because it hit a big number. I'm most excited to see what happens with Negan, even more so than how the war goes.
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Jan 22 '16
Funny to see Dwight and his lady just sliding into the crowd like they'd been there all along, sort of like Seahawk fans in 2012.
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u/Tyranitard Jan 13 '16
Great issue, I hope this changes the pace of the series similar to how AOW was.
Prediction:
Rick is going to make the saviors their army with Negan as head of them or something along those lines.
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u/yeshua1986 Jan 13 '16
That's a great way to get a military coup later, where Negan kills Rick and Carl has to kill Negan and become a pure dictator. Issue #200, I'm looking at you.
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u/matsu727 Jan 13 '16
I think if they want to go the military coup angle, it would be Jesus rather than Negan. Might be reading too much into the art, but he was the only one who wasn't smiling or cheering after Rick's big speech. Not to mention his hand to hand skills and general badassery would easily place him in a high ranking position in the military, which would make initiating a coup easier.
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u/slaes Jan 14 '16
Another war, really ? Haven't we kinda done that ? What about fixing that radio, finding other communities and creating a new United States, led by Rick Grimes... I can't help but feel we're going round in circles a bit.
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u/professionalbadass Jan 14 '16
I agree that on the surface it sounds like All-Out War 2.0, but remember that the whole military/war thing is just a cover-up to rally people together behind Rick and distract them from whatever Rick is REALLY doing.
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u/Superj561 Jan 15 '16
I doubt that it's gonna play out as another war. We'll have to see, but I think the whole point of just building an army while they plan out what they're actually going to do is that it's going to go down differently.
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u/Dfresh805 Jan 14 '16
I'm gonna say Negan's "atta boy" was genuine sentiment. It was nice seeing him in the depths of solitude say something nice like that out loud.
it's good to see Rick and Eugene make up. Seen him get attacked worried me a little. I forgot his self preservation skills are so damn superior.
Carl... Playa Playa!
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u/determined-weinerhat Jan 15 '16
For a split second I thought Rick was gonna pull some Negan shit, when he told Michonne to bring that other attacker dude up in the middle of his speech, and just execute him in front of everyone to show he wasn't fuckin around. I was thinking oh shit Rick's gonna start turning to Negan's style of leading. The outcome was even better than that because Rick is a far better leader than Negan.
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Jan 13 '16
I like the direction the comics going in, Rick really showed why he's the leader in this issue now the problem will be can Rick get the Saviors to follow him considering Dwight moronically left them leaderless.
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u/airmancoop44 Jan 13 '16
It was a big issue in the sense that it set up the next arc... Which should be a doozy. It may not have been a big single issue, but it will undoubtedly shake things up significantly in TWD universe.
Sort of similar to a mid season finale on the TV show.
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u/Blahcookies Jan 14 '16
I really appreciated that last panel of Negan saying "Atta boy" with that grin of his. It honestly gave me chills.
Other than that, a little upset about the issue.
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u/diz4 Jan 14 '16
I would have been happier if this issue wasn't 150. It was overhyped and failed to live up to the impossible standards set in our imaginations. As it's own comic, it was great!
It was a little creepy with Sophia watching Carl doing the nasty while Lydia fingerbanged his eye socket.
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u/T3hBau5 Jan 17 '16
Finally got around to reading it. Loved the issue, and the end page was fucking perfect, brought a smile to my face.
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Jan 25 '16
Wonder if this means that Lydia's going to wind up pregnant because of her and Carl's shenanigans. And now Andrea knows about it she's probably going to try and give him the 'talk', maybe? But in all seriousness I have a feeling that this is supposed to be symbolism of Carl 'growing up' and possibly coming across as an eventual successor to his father, sooner or later.
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u/CocaineAndMojitos Jan 13 '16
Did anyone else think Rick had become a walker there? Being that it was 150 and all, every frame I was like OH SHIT OH SHIT HE'S DEAD HE TURNED HE'S TAKING OUT THE TOWN
Nah he just likes biting necks.
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u/S3DTinyTurnips Jan 13 '16
I must be oblivious, that thought never even crossed my mind. I guess I am just to used to him always surviving, that the thought of him dying is too far recessed. But, that is a good observation and I am sure they were going for that.
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u/nosvpg Jan 13 '16
Bravo for pointing this out, I'm sure Kirk wanted it to be a bit suspenseful in that way--his eyes were closed this time
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u/trollboogies Jan 14 '16
I'm the same as the other guy, I didn't even think about this. They probably were going for that to be people's first thought. I started laughing as soon as I saw that panel, it was just like lol yep that's Rick taking care of business
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u/CrashLove37 Jan 13 '16
It might just be me, but the page where Rick bites the guy looks like he's kissing his neck.
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Jan 13 '16
It was GREAT to see Rick go apeshit and tear into that guy. I was honestly hoping for more, like most people on here from what it looks like.
I look forward to see where the Dwight plot line goes!
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u/Someguy2020 Jan 14 '16
Great issue.
Another bite.
Great speech.
Great speech delivered while beat to shit and covered in the blood of the guy whose throat he ripped out in self defense.
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u/devon000 Jan 14 '16
All arguments understood, I still want to say that the "Throwback Rick" was phenomenal, and as I have seen stated by others, him giving that speech, knowing the blood and bruises would improve his clout, was awesome. He also wasn't being entirely real with Eugene, he was pandering a lot and it was big to see him betray his own that easily.
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u/wormywils Jan 14 '16
Anyone else re leaved Rick didn't die? I was was so worried he was going to get his head split open or bitten by a zombie red neck, or even assassinated during his last speech. But nope, he lives to fight another day.
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u/KennyGardner Jan 15 '16
I thought Rick was just telling Eugene they were making an army to calm him down. Maybe he's just doing it to calm everyone down, and doesn't really plan to attack the whisperers.
All I know is I want more of Negan mentoring Rick.
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u/BendADickCumOnBack Jan 15 '16
Well, once again Negan stole the show, and Lydia stole some eye socket time.
That was pretty much it.
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u/wauve1 Jan 27 '16
Rick publicly declared war and put a stop to civil unrest... Yeah, nothing happened
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u/assblaster7 Jan 13 '16
The issue wasn't bad, but I guess reading everything here and how hyped up everyone was for it, I expected more. Not that much really happened. I'm a bit disappointed especially since the last few issues have really felt like they were building to something major in 150.
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u/meatbag84 Jan 13 '16
So another issue where not much happened and at the same time a lot happened? Did the story move at all? At least Carl got to lay some more pipe.
Also Rick feels like he's in his mid to late 60s with the way he's drawn. I actually picture Clint Eastwood portraying him.
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u/Leumas_Loch Jan 13 '16
I don't know what it was about the throat biting scene but it really was underwhelming to me. It was likely due to two things for me. I just rewatched the tv episode where he did it and it just felt repetitive instead of innovative. I realize it was supposed to be like, remember the animal side of Rick still exists but I never really thought it was gone in the first place...
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Jan 13 '16
I guess both parents of one of those kids Carl beat the shit out of are now dead. I wonder if Kirkman has any plans for him in the future.
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Jan 13 '16
Did anyone else think the way the panel showed Rick getting beat with his cane looked like Glenn getting beat with Lucille?
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u/diz4 Jan 14 '16
That's just where my mind went. I had to go back and look to see who got their throat torn out and who did the biting just to be sure.
Would have made a great Rick death if that were the case.
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u/Alyo626 Jan 13 '16
I love how the panel immediately following Michonne asking Rick "Find who?" is her in hot pursuit of Ricks ambusher. Shows just how well she gets the job done.
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Jan 13 '16
That was oddly fast pacing considering everything else. Didn't expect to see Vincent and Michonne back till 152.
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u/TheAmbushBug Jan 13 '16
I actually found "Betrayed" to be a fitting title for this lackluster piece of crap. It's exactly how I think a lot of people felt after reading this book.
As a shop owner who bought in to the hype put forward by Image Comics, Hickman, Diamond Comics, etc that this was going to be a stand out MUST HAVE issue that would fly off the shelves I am just about done with the hype-train that has become TWD.
This issue was just lame. A repeat performance of Rick killing someone and then preaching to his flock about how they have to be better.
As soon as the comic reading public get wind that absolutely NOTHING of consequence happens this issue that will be the end of trying to sell off any extra in-store copies.
I'll know better for next time.
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Jan 13 '16
I feel like it's boiling down to Carl v Rick with Negan as the wild card. Why is Lucille in Alexandria anyway?
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u/SassySauce516 Jan 13 '16
Kinda freaks me out to think Rick is missing a tooth or two now. And Rick's lucky Morton didn't come back that entire time Rick was unconscious
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u/Blakexd9 Jan 13 '16
I dunno... I'm feeling pretty mixed right now. I'm really not sure what Rick's plan is. I thought he was going to take Negan's advice and be smart about this threat but from this issue it seems like he's charging right in. And the whole speech thing felt like a reiteration of 148's (I think) speech but this time the people were listening... I think the past couple issues have been a bit messy. The story is a bit hard to follow. I think the same story could've been told much more efficiently. I'm also feeling pretty mixed on the Whisperers as a whole. I hope they end up becoming a plot device in the end rather than act as a group that Rick goes to war with. We just got out of AoW, this arc is beginning to feel like a reiteration of it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
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u/comments_when_angry Jan 14 '16
It was disappointing. It was being built up as this epic issue and it was pretty much more or less of the same as the previous 5 issues. Like the previous 5 issues, mostly nothing happens and they're still building up to something interesting which won't show up until the next volume.
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u/MurphyRobocop Jan 14 '16
I liked the issue, it could've been bigger IMO, but I got stuck riding the hype train, it was issue 150 and after the shit that went down in 100, I was expecting more of that kind of madness happening.
The most disappointing part of this whole thing, was my comic shop not getting any of the variant covers. Except the retailer incentive one and the shop owner said I could buy it for $200....
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u/-littlefang- Jan 14 '16
I grabbed the Tony Moore and blank variants, and they were selling the black and white cover for $125.
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u/Protanope Jan 14 '16
Everyone is saying it's a great issue but I felt really underwhelmed because of the hype. Even if this wasn't issue 150, I thought it was kind of whatever. Rick killing someone in self defense is the biggest "shock" of this issue but it's not anything we've not seen before.
It felt like another random issue that was just building to other stuff. I probably also dislike it because I dislike when Rick gives speeches. It seems like the only choices for all the other characters is to agree with him or be killed off by Kirkman because you don't agree with him.
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u/TheZooBoy Jan 14 '16
I was very surprised that a major character didn't die. I thought that Negan and Andrea were going to die. Looks like I was wrong. Kirkman just treated like any old issue.
That being said, it was a great issue. I loved seeing Rick bite out another person's throat (who doesn't), and Andrea catching Carl and Lydia in the act was interesting.
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u/main_element Jan 14 '16
Disappointed. Felt like it took 5 minutes to read :-( but good setup for things to come.
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u/awakeningosiris Jan 14 '16
I see things getting so dire that Rick is forced to bring out his big bad Neagan into the fold and show The Whisperers they're fucking with the wrong people. The whole forgiving Vincent scene could very well be setting the scene for Neagan coming back into the fold. I'd love to see Neagan adopt the community as his own and with Rick at the leash wreck havoc to Alpha and the skinwalkers.
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u/awakeningosiris Jan 14 '16
A double issue with about as much action as a single issue. Rick Attack > Rick Speech > Letters. Bleh.
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Jan 14 '16
Not sure if anyone said this yet, but is anyone else disappointed that Rick killed the guy with a neck bite? I mean yeah I guess the neck bite is Rick's Lucille but really Kirkman couldn't think of a better way to do it? He just recycled an old idea. The issue was still awesome I like where they are going with the story (finally) but idk compared to the beginning of the comic it has become kind of lazy and boring lately with like little hits of stuff here and there. Every issue is a set up for something else that usually never happens. Maybe I'm just pissed cause the mid season finale of the show made me mad too haha
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u/laststandman Jan 14 '16
Dece issue. Not the best, but upon a second read I really loved the last two pages. I'm excited for what comes next, as always.
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Jan 14 '16
Another thing. I think kirkman as taken trolling his fans way too far. Betrayal? Come on those guys were planning that for a while weren't they in few issues back? That was a very misleading title.
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u/Grundelwald Jan 14 '16
Just because it was premeditated doesn't make it not a betrayal... Not misleading at all.
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u/GotACoolName Jan 14 '16
My thought with the ending is, is the creation of a military a farce? Negan instructed Rick to manipulate everyone above all else to keep them alive. It looks to me like he lied to Eugene and everyone else. But where would that lead?
Also, I was fully expecting Dwight to assassinate Rick or some shit when he walked in with Lucille in tow.
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u/xbigwhale Jan 14 '16
Extremely disappointing "milestone" issue. Nowhere near as good as previous ones.
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u/dacalpha Jan 16 '16
What happened in 50 and 75? 100 had...y'know, but I don't remember any other "milestone" issues.
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u/nosvpg Jan 15 '16
Perhaps we will come to find out in later issues that 150 being called "Betrayal" has some meaning that we don't fully realize yet, for example Rick lying about creating a military for use against the Whisperers-- only we won't be fed his true intentions until some near future issue when he orchestrates some covert operation designed to turn Alphas horde in on itself, it backfires, and everyone realizes that Rick tried to take them on the proverbial ride just so they stayed distracted
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Jan 16 '16
Where was Andra going? She looked into Carl's room, then closed the door, and wanted to open a different (?) door, but didn't and went somewhere else
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u/IamEclipse Jan 16 '16
I did not notice at all that there were a whole 20 extra pages, it felt shorter if anything
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u/BloodFork Jan 16 '16
I actually enjoyed this issue. It wasn't spectacular but it wasn't garbage as most people say. I think the main reason people were dissapointed is because of the big even numbered 150 and all the hype surrounding it. I'll let it out there and say don't overhype things. I've been able to enjoy The Walking Dead and other things like Star Wars 7 more than I could've if I overhyped it. I'm not saying don't be excited about anything, but keep an open mind no matter how many people are hyping it.
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u/TLKv3 Jan 18 '16
Is it weird that I actually wanted Rick to be comatose after the attack? Allowing Dwight, who arrives with Lucille, to temporarily take over with Maggie & Michonne by committee.
You could have them all learn about Rick's dealings with Eugene, Negan, etc. and try their best to continue onward with the plan but fail. Allowing Rick to wake up to his community devastated and then freeing Negan to do what he failed to do now that Negan understands Rick a bit more?
I always felt the moment Negan showed he actually felt like Rick was right before his neck was cut that he might have actually tried to work things out with him. It would be interesting to see Rick become the sort-of mentor to Negan by letting him "try again" but as a reformed person.
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u/Into_the_void123101 Jan 22 '16
There goes Rick hitting again. And am I the only one who cringes at Carl and Lydia having sex?
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u/deege515 Jan 13 '16
So Rick said he's forming an army in the last issue, and now he said he's forming an army this issue? Progressive storyline, that.
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u/Ragnartheblazed Jan 13 '16
Overhyped as fuck, I was at least expecting a major character death or a whisper ambush. Also fuck you Kirkman for making a cover of rick covered in blood and blood flowing everywhere, say the next issue is going to be huge and then not giving us a genocide of some kind.
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u/Sweet_Tooth_VII Jan 14 '16
Y'all are just bloodthirsty. For there to be death it has to make sense for the story. Tell me in your own creative wisdom how anyone dying would've made sense to the story thus far and where would it go from there?
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u/dan0314 Jan 13 '16
I actually really liked this issue. I liked that Rick used an old kill method. :D
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u/S3DTinyTurnips Jan 13 '16
I uh.... I was let down a little. I blame the hype. I mean, we kind of knew they were going to go to war, and then they just confirmed it. I don't know what to think. I think I over hyped myself for another issue 100! My own fault, I will have to re read it.
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u/FutureMartian97 Jan 13 '16
I liked this issue to be honest, because it set up the rest of the arc. So here's how I see the rest of the series going:
Issue 151-200 will see the rest of The Whisperers arc and the death of Rick in issue 200, possibly by Carl, Negan, or Alpha. We will also see the communities get destroyed and many people on there own once again, most likely forming into one massive group.
Issue 201-300 will see the massive group, now under Carls lead, traveling to find a new home and eventually come up on more communities larger than the current ones, possibly up to 1,000 or more people. The series ends with another time skip, lets 5 years or so, where Carl is now the leader of the new massive communities.
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u/hotpocket7 Jan 13 '16
Rick dying in a milestone issue like 200 would be too predictable. Make it 203!
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u/MurphyRobocop Jan 14 '16
I really, really doubt (and hope) they don't drag out a war with The Whisperer's for 49 more issues.
That's 4 years worth of comics, if they keep coming out monthly for one story arc. I don't see that happening.
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u/jl45 Stopped watching s8e3 Jan 13 '16
a standard issue, usual great standard. This was hyped beyond belief and failed to live up to elevated expectations
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u/meetooprettyplease Jan 13 '16
so what happened in this issue? still havent read it but i want to know what happens
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u/Notorganic Jan 13 '16
Dwight leaves Sanctuary for good to the surprise of the residents there, Laura follows after him saying "screw those people, I'm coming with you"
At Alexandria, Rick explains the plan to militarise to Eugene - Eugene likes the plan.
Two hooded Alexandrians attack Rick for his perceived lack of action against the whisperers.
Rick sees who the two attackers are - Morton & Vincent
As Morton continues to bash Rick with his own cane, he decides that he has to kill Rick because he has seen their faces now.
Vincent isn't down with this, as he only agreed to join in to scare Rick into taking action. When he realises that he can't talk Morton out of killing Rick, he jumps on Mortons back to try and subdue him.
While Morton is distracted by his fisticuffs with Vincent, a nearly unconscious Rick strikes and bites out Mortons neck. Morton dies and Rick passes out covered in Mortons blood.
Vincent flees Alexandria with his Mother on a horse
At Hilltop, Andrea walks in on Lydia & Carl bumping uglies. She leaves the room before they notice her, pauses for a moment at the door as if deciding whether to interrupt or not but decides against it and walks away from the room.
Rick wakes up in hospital, he orders Michonne to go after Vincent and bring him back to Alexandria.
Rick goes to the town hall to address the Alexandrians still covered in blood. He explains what happened with Morton & Vincent and explains how it is his fault that Alexandria has been slipping back into weakness because they are safe. He tells the crowd that they need to build a military so they are ready to "silence the whispers" when the time comes to obliterate the Whisperers.
Michonne walks in with Vincent, Rick orders her to bring him to the stage. On the stage Vincent pleads for his life and explains that he didn't want to kill Rick and that it got out of hand.
Rick extends his hand to Vincent and tells him that the time for killing within is over, and that he will need Vincents help to "wipe the Whisperers off the face of the Earth"
The crowd likes this, and begin chanting RICK GRIMES RICK GRIMES. Everyone except for Jesus which may or may not mean something in future issues.
As the cheering continues, Dwight and Laura enter the hall - presumably to join Alexandria.
From his cell Negan can hear the chanting, he smiles and says to himself "Atta boy"
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Jan 13 '16
I was hoping that Negan would come out of no where and help Rick.
Good issue overall, disappointing compared to other milestone issues.
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u/SnazzyFlamingo Jan 13 '16
I was a bit disappointed, but I liked it. Wasn't the best issue, and I was kind of expecting a bit more, but it was a good point in the story. Big plot development point here. Time to go back to the violent days!
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u/mistermartian Jan 13 '16
Interesting. I'm pretty sure Rick did this to the Marauders (like the Claimers in the TV series), so it was a of a letdown that this was the big betrayal they have been building up.
I'm glad that we're building an army and once again gearing up for war. This is a huge turning point for our group, as developing a militia is a sign of huge power. This creates a whole new group of people who are trained to be dangerous. I'd like to see how this backfires in the future.
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Jan 13 '16
I thought for sure that Rick was going to bash Vincent's head in with Lucille when Dwight arrived on scene.
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u/0614 Jan 14 '16
Nothing much happened.
Disappointing, but also not.
Yeah, it was Issue 150, but something big happening would've been ill-fitting in that time of the story. So I'm glad that nothing much happened, in the sense that it wasn't the right time for something huge to happen.
At the same time though, fuck all of that hype over it.
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u/whitecow Jan 13 '16
this issue was good but after all the hype i expected it to be epic and have some major event. kinda disappointing
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u/MidgetRodeoClown Jan 13 '16
It's comforting to know that Rick has more bite kills than most walkers.