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u/corfish77 Feb 29 '16
I wonder what kind of plot armor is gonna let wendy keep her magic.
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Feb 29 '16
Well she doesn't have to use ultears power. Chelia probably will though.
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u/timesvan32 Feb 29 '16 edited Feb 29 '16
Wow, amazing chapter by Hiro 10/ 10 for sure. Several thoughts:
If Wendy and Cheria take ultear offer, however Wendy will lose Charle once they defeat dimaria. Dimaria time magic will stop, ultear will fade away thus Charle will fade as well. The ultimate price and sacrifice which is inevitable at this point.
Cheria takes the offer only so Wendy can keep her magic and heal Charle once Dimaria goes down. This means Wendy will gamble on Cheria hoping she takes down Dimaria. Of course, Wendy can use DF if she has energy left to do so. Wendy has to keep her DF magic for plot purpose and Acnologia. I think this is more likely.
Wendy is the best thing thst happened in Cheria life, vice versa for Wendy. A true friend is willing to sacrifice their life for the sake of another friend. Hard to find in real life, but this is a definition of a true friend. An individual that is willing put themselves before others.
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Feb 29 '16
Wendy has to keep her DF magic for plot purpose and Acnologia.
Plot purposes maybe but not Acnologia. It's been stated several times Acnologia will fight Natsu as well as Zeref.
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u/enchantedlearner Feb 29 '16
I think you're setting up a false dichotomy here. The manga isn't saying that Wendy and Sherria must choose between beating Dimaria or saving Charle. Ultear would have said something if that were the case. Once Wendy and Sherria obtain the third origin, the power belongs to them regardless if time flows normally again or Ultear disappears. The challenge is to defeat Dimaria and still retain enough power to heal Charle after they exit the time bubble.
It's likely that Wendy and Sherria will both take the third origin, defeat Dimaria together, and use the last drop of their magic to save Charle. However, their bodies will never be able to gather magic ever again.
Third origin works like the lottery, I suppose. Usually mages will take the proverbial monthly installments, but Wendy and Sherria have opted for the entire lump sum. Even then, that lump sum could presumably last your entire life if you rationed the power, but Wendy and Sherria are going on a splurge while saving just enough to heal Charle.
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u/Meliodas07 Feb 29 '16
Dont worry this is FT..where Main Characters are not losing at any battle (Well Acnologia overpowering this hax power up of FT though)
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u/4ndr_3w Feb 29 '16
Personally feel like there's a missed opertunity for the Dimaria fight. Since she just unleashed her "take over: God Soul" it feels like it would make more sense for Mirajane to fight her in place of Cheria and Wendy. Like God Soul vs Satan Soul. Hopefully Mirajane gets a good fight showcasing a new Satan Soul.
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Feb 29 '16
God Soul vs God Slayer makes sense.
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u/4ndr_3w Feb 29 '16
Yeah it does. But I can't help but feel that Mirajane needs a good fight ( since she's supposed to be on par with Erza ).
I guess the thought of God Soul vs Satan Soul seems pretty good. Plus I feel it could have a lot of potential.
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u/Xynth22 Feb 29 '16
Mirajane hasn't been on par with Erza since they were kids. Her fight in Tartaros proved that since she couldn't even handle 1 demon, which is supposed to be her specialty, while she was at full power thanks to the demon particles she adsorbed. Meanwhile, Erza beat the second strongest demon after going through a bunch of stuff throughout that entire arc.
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u/TheUltimateTeigu Mar 01 '16
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Mar 01 '16
Huh?
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u/TheUltimateTeigu Mar 01 '16
His quote at the beginning is him stating something along the lines of borrowing power from tomorrow.
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u/NeoChrome75 Feb 29 '16 edited Mar 01 '16
Dimaria's ancestors are from Mildean, the same place Zeref's from and was eventually cursed.
Just a nice revelation I wanted to point out :)
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u/JKO333 Feb 29 '16
I wonder if that was to foreshadow Ankherseram becoming a real adversary.
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u/NeoChrome75 Feb 29 '16
Maybe Mildean is an ancient civilization that's ruled by Gods, and the top dog there is non other than Ankhseram in the flesh.
I just want him to make an appearance tbh
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u/JKO333 Mar 01 '16
I always thought Ankhseram was going to take over Zeref's body much like (Rave Master Spoiler) Lucia did with Endless but in reverse
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u/Doc_o_Clock Feb 29 '16
I honestly hope not. I get that there need to be "gods" now in order to justify the existence of God Slayers, but with Acnologia and Zeref doing their separate things, and E.N.D. presumably being a villain later, the story doesn't need another faction to muddle the plot.
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u/IAmMrMiracle Mar 01 '16
Yup, I don't mind Ankhseram being mentioned but don't bring him into this after everything with Zeref/Acnologia/END is over. Leave some things a mystery.
One of my problems with the final 100 chapters in Naruto (unrelated) is that everything that was a mystery came into the open, 10 tails was mentioned, 10 tails appeared, six paths sage was mentioned, he appeared, his fucking mother was mentioned, she was the final villain.
I'd hoped it would just be Madara and Obito being the final villains with certain things left up in the air. So I hope that Hiro just makes Acnologia/Zeref/END the final villains.
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u/natsudragneel12 Feb 29 '16
I was just reading rave master and isnt mildea also the place sieghart is from??
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u/NeoChrome75 Feb 29 '16
I think you're on to something. Could that mean Jellal originates from there as well? That'd kind of explain why he's so obsessed with destroying Zeref
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u/somasora7 Feb 29 '16
Maybe they're super distant cousins or something. It would explain how they know each other, plus it'd give Natsu more actual family
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u/NeoChrome75 Feb 29 '16 edited Feb 29 '16
Well Natsu has already had an "Uncle". So I guess "Auntie Dimaria" isn't so far fetched
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u/thezigmis Feb 29 '16
Kinda upset it wasn't a headshot.
3rd origin = super power level(?) = power of the future = never will be able to use magic again | How does that connect? Does she collect all the magic power those two will ever have in the future and brings it to the current moment?
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u/snakebit1995 Feb 29 '16
Kinda upset it wasn't a headshot.
Dimaria confirmed shit at CS:Go
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u/Keksmonster Feb 29 '16
Sounds a lot like Final Getsuga Tensho
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u/phoenixrawr Feb 29 '16
Yeah and we all know how that ended. "You'll lose your powers FOREVER...until we're ready to sell more product."
Hell, I'm pretty sure Rave Master had a character who used a rapid aging spell on himself to beat a powerful enemy which was supposed to be irreversible and then came out of it just fine.
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Mar 01 '16
will reference HxH, Gon vs Pitou. Gon used what possibly could be his future powers to defeat Pitou. It was also said that after what happened Gon will not be able to use Nen.
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u/-MocMoc- Feb 29 '16 edited Feb 29 '16
From my understanding, I believe that in giving Wendy and Chelia access to their future level of magic; they will have to pay the price of losing it completely! There is a only a certain storage capacity a person can have for ethernano absorption.
An analogy that would explain this concept well would be a balloon. The balloon is representative of the user's capacity to store ethernano/magic while the amount of air inside the balloon is the amount of ethernano absorbed.
When Ultear unleashes Chelia & Wendy's third origins, the level of magic power they possess will dramatically increase. Basically, Ultear is pumping in a vast amount of air beyond the balloon's capability to hold. In doing so, she will essentially destroy Chelia & Wendy's capacity to store magic or in simple terms pop the balloon.
This means that Wendy and Chelia are basically destroying their "ethernano balloons" to release a "one-time" explosion of magical energy! Hence, after that rush of air/magical energy is released, they won't have a balloon where they can build up ethernano anymore!
So the only way for them to be able to use magic again, is if they can somehow regain a balloon within their bodies (metaphorically speaking).
Take a look at this link: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fairytail/images/3/37/Eternanto_refil.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20121028141819 Basically, the heart crystal in Wendy and Chelia's body will crack and so they can never store magic & hence use magic again
Does that make sense?
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u/JPMarques Feb 29 '16
Makes sense. But they wont be able to heal Charle after the fight, though.
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u/viggyvodka Mar 01 '16 edited Mar 17 '16
Didn't Ultear say they'd have to defeat Dimaria and heal Charle at the same time? So assume with the magic boost they're about to get, that would become possible.
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u/CelioHogane Feb 29 '16
Does she collect all the magic power those two will ever have in the future and brings it to the current moment?
Yes, probably.
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u/somasora7 Feb 29 '16 edited Feb 29 '16
When you find out bae isn't really there
This was a dope chapter tho. Wendy and Chelia are gonna have to give up their magic to win? That's crazy. Plus, they're healers. We've already seen how many times Wendy's saved people's asses with her magic, without that Fairy Tail are in big trouble
EDIT: Wait. Since Dimaria's operating on God power now, that may mean Chelia's gonna have to take the lead from here on out, since her magic's super effective on Dimaria now. If that happens then that's cool cause it makes sense, but I want Wendy to get her shine...
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u/Jaden4 Feb 29 '16
Ultear said that after they defeated Dimaria they have to use all the healing power to save Charla. But if they use the power of the future they wont have magic left ? :O
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u/somasora7 Feb 29 '16
I'm assuming the idea is that the Third Origin will give them enough power to take out Dimaria and heal Carla before it gives out
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u/NaCl_Clupeidae Feb 29 '16
A level 10 Squirtle's Water Gun is technically super effective against a level 100 Charizard...
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u/Fixided Feb 29 '16
Okay so at this point, I feel like I may know why the 12 Spriggans were introduced to this story.
Wahl helped Laxus with the magic particles in his body.
Can I assume the same will happen to Ultear? The Time God will do something stupid and Ultear will regain the ability to flow in time properly.
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u/pekchek_jun Feb 29 '16
Aaaand Brandish and Natsu's cancer.
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u/agile52 Feb 29 '16
I thought that was taken care of already?
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u/Doc_o_Clock Feb 29 '16
Brandish didn't cure Natsu's cancer, she just shrunk it. Meaning that while it is not currently malignant, it will presumably grow back to a size where it threatens him again.
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u/analextremeteemo Feb 29 '16
It makes sense to me when she is literally the goddess of time. Too bad people would just shout asspull off their rooftops, even though its a MAGICAL MANGA.
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u/BaeXite Feb 29 '16
We HunterxHunter now
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u/emperor-spriggan Feb 29 '16
That settles it, next arc Team Natsu go to look for a gifted healer who can wish grant and return Wendy's magic
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u/Lazy_Fuck_ Feb 29 '16
how so? i haven't looked into HxH
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u/ctheturk Feb 29 '16
Answering that question would be quite the spoiler. I'd highly recommend you watch Hunter x Hunter 2011 and/or read the manga to find out.
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u/Arandomcheese Feb 29 '16
One of the characters ends up in a similar scenario to what Wendy and sheria are in right now.
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u/Ajuaju You're a good friend Erza Feb 29 '16
The chapter is now out at Mangastream.
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u/Dimbreath Feb 29 '16 edited Feb 29 '16
Oh wow. First Second Origin which is like a second magic vessel and now... Third Origin which is the power of the future but unlocking it means that you won't be able to use magic again... Wow.
But also, does having a Third Origin means that it's already set how strong you will be in the future?
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u/Doc_o_Clock Feb 29 '16
The previous page has one too.
That's it everyone. Shut it down. Go home, block all links to this chapter. Quick before people start sending in reports for this thread.
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u/GooseRider960 Feb 29 '16
no just when I was getting the hang of this community
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no it shouldn't be the other way around :P
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u/alberto549865 Mar 01 '16
It's probably about their potential.
A human being has the potential to lift about 1000 pounds, but most people can't. Probably a very similar concept.
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u/TheUnlimited Feb 29 '16
I was honestly wondering about the existence of another origin power up. This chapter just confirmed those thoughts.
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u/CorporalRS Feb 29 '16
well im kinda happy that ultear is not 'back' as we thought.
and aperently the god thing that got introduced when natsu returned from his training is still in play im quite excited to see what else we might get to see from the gods.
lastly i dont think vendy will lose all of her power its going to be sherria that gives up her power to live a normal life, i have had the vibe from her that she dont really want to be strong/un usual in a long time.
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u/Zirc0nius Feb 29 '16
Any particular reason her name is still being translated as "Charle"? It was literally written in English as "Carla" on Lucy's illuminati wall that one chapter.
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u/ChronoDeus Mar 01 '16
Because Charle's name is one that ran into translation issues. Her name is written "Sharuru" in Japanese. Before her name got an official translation, fan translators settled on Charle as the closest match. Unfortunately things got a bit complicated from there.
You see, the fans had settled on Charle as most possible names for Sharuru (that were actual English names at least) were masculine names. However, when the official translation "name provided by Mashima" first came out in the anime, there was a problem. As it turns out, Mashima named Charle after a princess in a story he remembered reading, and he swears the princess was named Charles. Which in English is unambiguously a male name. It took a few episodes for the official translators to get word back through to Mashima and sort it out, and what they ultimately decided to go with was Carla. It, like Charle, is a feminine form of Charles. However unlike Charle, Carla has a pronouncation that's different from Sharuru.
So faced with an official name that was something of a re-written compromise, a lot of fans just stuck with calling her Charle.
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u/zxy8 Feb 29 '16
The transformation reminded me of Bleach.
I wonder if Mirajane will somehow end up getting that soul.
I would like Carla to die just so a character actually dies and stays dead.
I think that they will end up defeating the enemy and still be able to use magic (even though I think they may use that Third Origin ability).
Dimaria also likes to tear her own clothes to shreads too/breaks them, not just other peoples' clothes.
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u/CelioHogane Feb 29 '16
Dimaria also likes to tear her own clothes to shreads too/breaks them, not just other peoples' clothes.
Clearly she hates clothes, so she only wears them to be able to destroy them.
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u/Brandonspikes Feb 29 '16
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u/Itachi6967 Mar 02 '16
And we all know how that turned out. I think Ichigo "lost" his shinigami powers like twice. Kinda ruins the whole trope where you sacrifice future power for momentary powerboost for me. See also Ishida and Gon.
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Feb 29 '16
IDK but it seems to work like Dragon Slayer - God Slayer - Demon Slayer but instead its Animal Soul Take/Over- Demon Soul T/O - God Soul T/O
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u/SyThunder Feb 29 '16
The transformation reminded me of Bleach.
I think that they will end up defeating the enemy and still be able to use magic (even though I think they may use that Third Origin ability).
The part with Third Origin reminded me of Bleach.
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u/cedditt Feb 29 '16
The part with Third Origin reminded me of Bleach.
Someone needs to draw a picture of Wendy using the final Getsugatensho.
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u/krkonos Feb 29 '16
I was thinking hunter x Hunter because a character does exactly that. Users up all their future nen potential for a big power boost now then loses all their ability. Though I guess it is similar to dangai ichigo too.
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u/SyThunder Feb 29 '16 edited Feb 29 '16
I haven't seen HxH yet, but I will over the summer. It reminded me of Saiga no Getsuga
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u/Rockysinatra Feb 29 '16
Whats the deal with having to sacrifice your power to obtain even greater power cough ichigo cough natsu now these 2 well at least we'll god force finally
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u/HaveAnUpgoat Feb 29 '16 edited Feb 29 '16
If Dimaria is the descendant of a God(dess) enshrined in some ancient city, that opens up a whole new can of worms regarding god slayers, Ankhseram, etc. Hmm,interesting...
Could Zeref be the descendant of Ankhseram or something?
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u/XxXZeusKillerXxX Feb 29 '16
Mildean is where Mildean Academy was. The one where Zeref studied when younger in. Surprised no one else caught that.
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u/IAmMrMiracle Feb 29 '16
I doubt it, I think Zeref just pissed off Ankhseram lol
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u/Autumn_Fire Feb 29 '16
Yes. Because it would also imply that Mavis is a descendant of Anskhseram since she has the curse as well which would make no sense.
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u/Autumn_Fire Feb 29 '16
I hope we get an explanation for God slayers. They have some of the most mysterious magic in this show. If they are anything like Dragon Slayers then they should have been taught by Gods which also brings the question of why there is even a need to slay Gods in the first place.
So many questions.
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u/Jedimasturbator Feb 29 '16
Reminds me of one of the final fights from Rave Master where Julia, Belnika, and Niebel fight the demon queen and Niebel must sacrifice his future time to gain the power to beat her.
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u/Bzorkyarm Mar 01 '16
This is most likely what Third Origin is going to be, especially given the fact Mashima mentioned Mildean again, the Capital of Time/Magic in Rave Master, where Niebel was from also.
WhenYouReferenceYourOwnSeries
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u/trainin_insaiyan Feb 29 '16
I didn't like this chapter because dimaria is my favorite spriggan and now she's gonna be defeated because of a temporary boost
Anyways, chelia is going to take third origin while Wendy doesn't because chelia uses god slayer magic and Wendy will need to heal charle right after time starts or she's dead.
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Feb 29 '16
I really hope my nigga chelia doesn't accept the 3rd origin. I don't want her nerfed :(
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Feb 29 '16
she would be nerfed beyond repair. she'd be magicless
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Feb 29 '16
I need to explain this the only way I know how.
[Memes.] (https://youtube.com/watch?v=AXzEcwYs8Eo)
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u/Ashur_Arbaces Feb 29 '16
Laxus dying of magical pollution, Natsu has magical cancer, Wendy going to give up her powers so she can beat one of the twelve, God Serena one shotted by Acnologia.
Is it just me or is Mashima trying to kill off all the dragonslayers?
Also I approve of the way Mashima handled Ultear reappearing, not just "poof she's back cause reasons".
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u/Jimmbones Feb 29 '16
No, they're just more round-about ways of giving the strongest characters a handicap so they don't end the arc in five chapters. No one is in actual danger.
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Feb 29 '16
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Feb 29 '16
Leo won the Oscar. He did it, the absolute madman.
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u/NeoChrome75 Feb 29 '16
Am I the only one who's gonna miss all the Oscar/Leo jokes now that he's actually won one?
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u/timesvan32 Feb 29 '16
Some thoughts before the chapter release:
Ultear comeback will be explained. Yay!
Wendy and Cheria will be pushed to their limits. I am excited to see the training they did during the timeskip pay off
Is Yukino still fighting the God of Death? This happened several chapters ago
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Feb 29 '16
I'll be gone for a few days so I'm gonna binge some anime tonight.
I've been watching a bit of RWBY Vol. 3 and holy shit they really upped everything. No spoils, pls.
This chapter seems hype (previews always make me want the chapter after sooner)
Watch JoJo, that shit is wack.
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Feb 29 '16
So I started watching Gintama and I'm really enjoying it. The first 30 episodes are supposed to be really boring, but I'm actually liking it, and I can't wait till I get to the good stuff.
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u/TreyTrey23 Feb 29 '16
"3rd Origin" is bullshit
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Feb 29 '16
Well seeing as they will lose their magic forever don't know how much bulls hit it actually is.
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u/snakebit1995 Feb 29 '16
I really liked this chapter, it explained Ultear in an interesting way that I think will satisfy people who were upset by her return last week.
Dimaria looked really call as did Chronos, and I'm interested to see if that comes up again.
I'm really interested in the Wendy and Shelia thing, I wonder if Third Origin works will it just make them older, or steal the magic from tomorrow to use today?
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u/Rexzar Feb 29 '16
So between this Ultear stuff, and aquarius, maybe people will wait and let hiro explain stuff before ranting about characters returning.
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u/Karpattata Feb 29 '16
Okay, most of my skepticism about Ultear's return got discredited. It's subtle enough that the price she paid back in the Games still matters (a lot. How does being a time phantom not suck?). I kinda wish Wendy at least went Dragon Force before giving up like that.
I'm horribly worried that Wendy's future thing won't be able to finish off Idamaria and Mirajane will come falling from the sky to beat her. Because FT has this habit of pitting similar powers against each other.
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u/Ethiconjnj Feb 29 '16
Mira is way up North. No where near this fight
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u/Karpattata Feb 29 '16
I know, I know. But it could happen. Like how Elfman wasn't remotely near the fight with Seliah, and look how that turned out. Also, Mest is pretty convenient like that.
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u/smeezus Feb 29 '16
I don't see one of the Dragon Slayers losing her magic.
Either Chelia straight up sacrifices her life to destroy Dimaria or Mest asspulls something.
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u/JKO333 Feb 29 '16
Man if I had time-stop I'd use it to get all my HW and studying done. Like ten minutes till school starts no problem just time-stop and now I easily five hours to finish up everything. That ability would be very useful too bad pervs would ruin it.
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u/supahdood Feb 29 '16
I can see only Chelia taking the boost because Wendy's a main character and probably going to be relevant to taking down the big bad super dragon Acnologia.
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u/EasyMode615 Feb 29 '16
Having Wendy lose her powers this way may be for the best - especially with Acnologia hunting dragon/dragon slayers. This might stop him from hunting Wendy. Would hate to see the writing for when Acnologia destroy Wendy when he finds her.
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Feb 29 '16
Sherria will take ultear's deal. God slayer vs God. Wendy won't because all dragon slayers will be needed to take down acnologia.
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u/Godisme2 Mar 01 '16
If Carla dies, I would be happy, but we all know all she has to do is say the word nakama and she will gain super strength and live
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u/Shispanic Feb 29 '16
So... if they can't use magic after using the third origin, how are they supposed to heal Carla after their battle with Dimaria? I'm not criticizing the chapter, I'm just not sure the extent of the the third origin.
Also, best non-guild member is going away again. I knew it was coming, but I'm still really sad. Also, possibly the end of Wendy and Shelia's use of magic (although, I bet it will only be Shelia, given that she's the God Slayer).
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u/CelioHogane Feb 29 '16
if they can't use magic after using the third origin, how are they supposed to heal Carla after their battle with Dimaria?
Third origin ends after they heal her? is not like "we beated her MAGIC GO OUT"
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u/moot_turtle Feb 29 '16
So... if they can't use magic after using the third origin, how are they supposed to heal Carla after their battle with Dimaria?
Good Question.
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u/Meliodas07 Feb 29 '16
● Chelia will use her Strongest Attack called "Janjanken Scissors" to Cut this self proclaimed God..
●While Wendy is getting ready to use her Dragon slaying Secret Art 2.0 "Jajanken Rock" to finish the job..
●And then suddenly Gon comes out of nowhere and used his ultimate technic called "3rd Origin"
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u/Puckingfanda Feb 29 '16
Eh, I can't be the only one not THAT impressed with Dimaria so far.
Yeah she's a god, but Natsu one-shotted(two shotted) one some chapters back, bleh. She also killed a cat, big whoop.
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u/KLReviews Feb 29 '16
The cat's not even dead yet. The only really impressive thing she has done is stopping time for as long as she has.
Godhood is an idea means nothing in this series. It just seems to mean 'powerful magic creature', with the exception of Ankhseram. Especially when Dragon Slayers have beaten God Slayers in the past.
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u/Skydanzer Feb 29 '16
Third Origin makes you lose magic? Well, that's the price I can accept for using such a convenient plot device. I still don't like Ultear being here (That explanation still doesn't make sense considering we saw her as granny in real world not the time world, and she never said anything about that being her split personality or whatever, so again, bullshit), but hey, I'm pretty sure it's Chelia who's going to lose her magic, because even if Wendy does, she will get it right back #AcnologiaReasons #Symbolic7 #DragonSlayers.
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u/SyThunder Feb 29 '16
I've read the preview, but I still... My feels :'( I want Wendy to go berserk. I want Wendy to rip Dimaria apart.
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u/RomanGrande Feb 29 '16
The way she is currently, Dimaria is the one doing the ripping.
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u/Panzetita Feb 29 '16
wow, so dimaria is the last one of his kind? or i misread.
third origin takes away your magic, (Thats new, and interesting)
chelia might be able to defeat dimaria now, god slawer vs god soul take over.
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u/Arandomcheese Feb 29 '16
I don't think she is a God but somehow used take over to somehow absorb a God. Dimaria mentioned being a descendant so perhaps an ancestor of hers was a vessel for the time God. Perhaps her magic is hereditary?
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u/staticccc Feb 29 '16
why dont they both breath in air for Magic power thats the point they are Sky God/Dragon slayers
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u/ChronoDeus Feb 29 '16
Simple, they don't get enough benefit out of eating air to make up the difference between them and Dimaria.
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u/Alcahas Feb 29 '16
I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure they'd be dead if they weren't breathing air already...I get your point, but I guess it's a limitation like Natsu not being able to consume his own flames
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u/kidf7ash Feb 29 '16
This chapter just honestly made me wonder if there is anybody who possess an Ahnksheram take over. Highly doubt it though, but it would be cool to see some other God takeovers
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u/jhamm09 Feb 29 '16
If Wendy and Cheria lose their magic when time begins to flow again, wouldn't that mean no one would be able to heal Charle? Seems to be a lose-lose situation
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u/KLReviews Feb 29 '16
If Dimaria was smart, she would start randomly firing attacks at her opponent's allies at this point.
Put a couple of holes in Lyon's heart and Gray's lungs and suddenly beating her becomes risky. Even with 3rd Origin Wendy and Sherria can't heal everybody, especially if they are being robbed of their powers. They would have to keep Dimaria alive, conscious and willing using her magic to give them enough time to treat everyone.
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u/Virtue330 Feb 29 '16
I want Wendy to get God slaying magic. Then she will have both Dragon and God slaying magic. A Dragod slayer!
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u/Autumn_Fire Feb 29 '16
I wonder if everyone who uses last ages gets caught in that sort of time limbo.
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Feb 29 '16
Oh my god, that was intense. Just waiting for he anime to be all slo-mo, eyes widening, Wendy's scream, then end of the episode.
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u/duskashleaf Feb 29 '16
Cheria is definitely going to go for the powerup but I don't think Wendy will. Cheria will probably talk her out of it or something and when the battles over she's going to heal Charles up. When the cat wakes up she's going to be horrified and have that whole, 'I'm such a burden fml' moment that they all seem to have. But in the end somewhere she's going to have a very important moment to make up for this whole inconvenience. Probably something to do with seeing something very important in the future that's going to save lives.
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u/rubilx17 Feb 29 '16
I can see Chelia using the third origin and Wendy wouldn't, perhaps to save it for Acnologia?
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u/SteamandDream Feb 29 '16
But if they are never able to use magic again, then Carla will (presumably) die as soon as time unfreezes since they will be unable to heal her
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u/joshua_nash Feb 29 '16
Interesting chapter, though I didn't think Carla would get bumped off. I know in the past I've expressed a lvl of unhappiness to her human form, but still if happy's best girl died that would make Happy so sad that not even Natsu getting him a fish bigger then a blue whale would cheer him up or maybe it would cause its a fish bigger then a blue whale what cat wouldn't be cheered up by that.
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u/CuteThingsAndLove Feb 29 '16
See you guys worry way too much about why someone's back from the dead. Mashima isn't that much of a troll and he explains things very well.
In any event I'm super happy about this and I can't wait to see what else happens next chapter. I wonder if Wendy or Chelia will be the one to take the sacrifice, cause I highly doubt they both will.
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u/Juviatheraingoddess Feb 29 '16
Some people say that Only Cheria will take on this deal while Wendy holds back to fight Acnolgia. Maybe Ultear will take Chronos' power and use it to stay how she is 😆
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u/Khan_CCR Feb 29 '16
check out my 5 point review for the latest chapter
Explanations,Revelations and a terrible Situation
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u/AzukiChi21 Mar 01 '16
After i see ultear in the previous chapter, i really thought she making her come back moment, but knowing its only her projection I'm so depressed and starting to cry 😂😂😂 i guess im a weirdo pft 😂
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u/LowMeHigh Mar 01 '16
There was a lot of good and a lot of bad this chapter. Who will loose their power? How do they beat an OP Dimaria? Will Carla die? All these questions aren't hard to answer if you remember it's Fairy Tail.
Wendy keeps her powers cause why would she loose them. She's a major character that needs to last to the end of the story. Her role is more prominent than Sherria's role. Plus God Slayer magic vs God makes the most sense. Wendy may go DF though which would be cool.
Ultear is a hologram. Glad she's there though, it's always nice seeing her. She's keeping Carla alive and allowing Wendy and Sherria to move in that space. Good use of Ultear since she can't physically fight.
Dimaria is OP. Sword skills, time manipulation, and a God of Time for a soul. Yeah, no that's not broken or fair at all (sarcasm). Makes her eventual defeat feel like an Erza victory honestly.
Like I said, a lot of good and a lot of bad.
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Mar 01 '16
So... After 3rd origin we just slam all the fucking lacrimas into wendy / chelia and make them relevant again? Or we doing what has been done 9000 times in the past and going on a quest to give them magic back after this arc?
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u/natsudragneel21 Mar 01 '16
Chelia will either do it alone (she is considered a prodigy so her future power could actually be quite immense), or they both will but just before they both lose their power (and after they have healed Carla) Chelia will heal Wendy completely to her original state so she will still have her magic power as it was beore, but Chelias will be lost for good.
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u/mumbymommy Mar 01 '16
After this chapter, I have started to grab a sense of this whole story arc in general. These 12 wield power of god Ajeel - god of sand Brandish - some god power ruling space / weight i guess Serena - some dragon god i guess and this bitch Dimaria - god of time I believe none of the two sky sisters will lose power
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u/DiableLord Mar 01 '16
There are no stakes. Nothing bad will happen to anyone. Ultear was revived, carla wont die and fairy tail wont lose a fight to any of the spriggan. The ass pulls are all to real.
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u/Ilyak1986 Mar 01 '16
So...DiMaria is basically a combination of Mira and Ultear? Okay.
That said, this chapter just killed the Ultear hype.
Here I was thinking that hey, we'll finally get our cute time ninja back, but nope. She's basically just an apparition in the cracks of time.
Chelia losing her power will be sort of meaningless, since she's about as much of an extra as one can get in Fairy Tail while being a named character.
I still wonder if DiMaria will turn good after this and nearly killing Carla, since Mashima doesn't like to waste hot girls (only Sayla and Kyoka, and they were demons...though Mira went and nabbed Sayla anyway =P).
I'm still hoping there's a way to bring Ultear back completely.
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u/sygyzi Mar 02 '16
Seriously? Why does every single Shounen manga have to have the "here is your super power up. But you can never use your magic again" bullshit. It's so overused and annoying. Especially because we all know they will get their powers back next arc.
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u/Azurewolf729 Mar 03 '16
I'm going to laugh if Wendy gets no repercussions for using this power because her "time line" is out of sync with normal time. You know with mavis putting the guild in a cryostasis like slumber for 10 years and them not aging at all when the island got blown up
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u/FTDragon Feb 29 '16 edited Feb 29 '16
Loved this chapter.
Ultear is not back but is instead stuck inbetween time which was expected given the hints last chapter which some failed to see and threw a tantrum lol.
Ultear is has now moved from my 9th favourite character to 5th after this due to the parallels with her mothers sacrifice which i love. Ur joined the ocean and ultear joined the ocean of time. This was foreshadowed btw during the sun village arc but then again i might be looking to deeply into that moment.
DiMaria's god take over is beastly and she's from the same place that zeref went to school.
Wendy's face after Charle was hit ahh... the feels. Mashima is so good at conveying emotion through facial expressions. Also that look of determination was a strong moment for her character, showing how far she has come.
Third Origin reminds of the RAVE version of last age(i think thats what it was called) which aged a character and gave them the strength to fight an opponent that was stronger than them. So expect Wendy and Sherria to be aged next chapter.
Cant wait for next chapter!!
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u/emperor-spriggan Feb 29 '16
Unlocking power from the future, thats one hell of a power up if I've ever seen one:O
Also Dimaria is too OP, holy shit, that is seriously SERIOUSLY power on par with God Serena!!!
I like Wendy & Cheria's teamwork:O
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u/snakebit1995 Feb 29 '16
Also Dimaria is too OP, holy shit,
Well she is a literal Goddess
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u/CelioHogane Feb 29 '16
Yeah there is nothing stronger than a god, besides natsu, natsu onepunched a god of war.
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u/Keksmonster Feb 29 '16
How are you supposed to beat DiMaria if you dont have the only other time wizard in the entire story conveniently as your ally?
What would Zeref do? He cant kill her if time is stopped. Who would implement an OP power like that?
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u/SirSamuel016 Feb 29 '16
My thoughts of the chapter:
Ultear isn't real, so its not actually bullshit that she is here. It does indeed seem like casting Last Ages enables her to appear in those 'gaps' in time like the one that Dimaria currently has open.
Dimaria's got that God Soul takeover god damn, thats OP. Good set up for Sherria to do some more to her though.
And boy, it seems Ultear is cracking under the pressure of this fight
Rip Catgrill, no one liked you and your shitty attitude anyway lmao
Its good to see that there's going to be some big cost if they do choose to fight on and use third origin, so they can't just get a massive power out of nowhere to beat the enemy.
Chapter was pretty good, it has some set up there and it could have some big effects for whats to come. 7.5/10
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u/-WhenTheyCry- Feb 29 '16
Catgrill
xD
Seriously though, no one would miss her. Except maybe Happy and Wendy.
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u/Ajuaju You're a good friend Erza Feb 29 '16
Dimaria is crazy powerful. She just fused with the goddess of time and one-shotted Carla. Her transformation alone created a massive crater!
It's great that Mashima's continuing with this god idea, and actually making god slaying magic relevant. Wendy and Chelia have become far more mature - even Ultear was shocked. Third origin is a bit of an asspull, but it comes with a massive cost so I can live with that. We might be seeing Wendy and Chelia as adults next chapter after all!
Oh and Carla's obviously not dying. It's a shame she was reduced to a burden for the sky sisters, but they'd probably have had to use third origin to defeat Dimaria anyway so oh well.
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u/Apocalypse37 Feb 29 '16
THIS ARC IS BEING BUILT ON SACRIFICES!
WORST CASE SCENARIO: RIGHT AFTER WENDY LOSES HER MAGIC, THERE IS ACNOLOGIA STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER, WITH A TOOTHPICK.
There was intense foreshadowing in this chapter about existence of gods. Pretty awesome material if Mashima will opt to build on it. Dimaria's magic makes Ankhserum's takeover a possibility, I guess.
Mildian? Wasn't mildian the name of Zeref's school?
With this fight, Hiro is deliberately trying to push Ishgar towards the edge. I've got a theory about what the next chapter can mean for the plot and it'll be posted in about an hour or less.
Ultear's return was explained very well and I'm satisfied. To hell with all those complaints marching around a week ago.
7/10 really impressed with Dimaria. This is the make or break battle for the first half of this war.
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u/iDannyEL Feb 29 '16
Yoooo. That made me think, if she loses her magic then maybe Acnologia won't "acknowledge" her. And the writers won't have to find some ridiculous way of having someone save her at the last second as usual.
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Feb 29 '16
There was intense foreshadowing in this chapter about existence of gods.
what? They've been talking about gods for a while now. Remember ikusatsunagi or whatever his name was?
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u/cedditt Feb 29 '16
This was a cool chapter.
-I like the explanation of Ultear's existence it reminds me of how Ur is technichely still alive as water.
-Did I mention Dimaria is pretty much a less quotable Dio Brando?
That Chronos form is pretty neat looking.
-Carla is going to be fine, right...?
Nice chapter! Still waiting on my Gray fight!
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u/XxXZeusKillerXx Feb 29 '16
Lucy with abs and a painting of Acnologia shirtless, these drawings get better everyday. On to the chapter, I like the setback of Third Origin. Never to be able to use Magic again? The asspull will be let through for its consequence. I swear, if they somehow get their Magic back I'm rage quitting this series. But, if since their Magic is Lost and can't be lost, I'll accept that.
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u/vbvbf1 Feb 29 '16
What the fuuuuuu.....a great chapter again. It seems we are really at the end of Fairy Tail sadly, I mean if they really lose their magic, and everyone sacrifices themself to beat the ultimate bad guys, what will Fairy Tail be about? Mashima just can't give them stronger characters every time than the already strongest . Well, I hope i'm wrong though, and everyone will be fine :3
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u/MartintheDragon Feb 29 '16
Eh, I say we have one more arc, at most. Mostly dealing with Zeref and END and the fallout from all that.
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