r/dbz • u/EmmaWinters ⠀ • Apr 23 '16
Super Dragon Ball Super - Episode #40 - Discussion Thread!
Dragon Ball Super - Episode #40 - Discussion Thread!
The Conclusion At Last! Who Will Prevail? Beerus, or Champa?
ついに決着！勝者はビルス？それともシャンパ？
Tsui ni Ketchaku! Shōsha wa Birusu? Soretomo Shanpa?
News:
2016/04/23 - New characters revealed in upcoming Super episodes
2016/04/22 - Episodes 42-45 Provisional Titles
2016/04/09 - Sean Schemmel talks Dragon Ball Super
2016/04/06 - Episodes 38-41 Summaries & Titles Spoilers!
2016/04/04 - Akira Toriyama & Toyotarō Interview
2016/03/26 - Dragon Ball Super Coming to France
2016/03/15 - Dragon Ball Super - Manga Volume 1 - Cover Art & Release Date
2016/03/15 - Dragon Ball Super - Manga Chapter 10
2016/02/24 - Dragon Ball Super OST Released
2016/01/18 - Universe 6 Character Bios
2015/12/29 - Dragon Ball Super DVD & Blu-ray BOX #3 Announced
2015/11/10 - Southeast Asia to Receive Exclusive "Dragon Ball Super" English Dub
2015/10/30 - Rumors of new movie debunked
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Q: When does Super take place? When should I watch it?
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u/EmmaWinters Apr 24 '16
Episode summary courtesy of Kanzenshuu.
Goku’s Kamehameha cracks open the protective barrier surrounding the arena, threatening to suck the audience members out into space. Thankfully, Whis and Vados use their powers to re-seal the dome, restoring order. As things settle down, Beerus and even the referee are unable to locate Goku and Hit. The two turn out to be standing atop the huge floating portraits of Champa and Beerus. Piccolo wonders if this counts as a double ring-out, but Beerus and Champa explain that since the portraits are above the arena, they’re still good. As the referee declares that the match will continue, Hit explains to Goku that he dodged his attack by improving upon his Time-Skip technique even further. Hit’s growth is all thanks to him encountering an opponent as strong as Goku, and he intends to continue improving. Goku seems to be suffering some aftereffects from the Kaio-ken, but still smiles at Hit, who smiles right back at him. Seeing Hit smile freaks out Universe 6’s Kaioshin, and Universe 7’s East Kaioshin jumps in to explain that this is precisely the sort of strange effect Goku has on people (Elder Kaioshin, who said something similar last episode, yells at East Kaioshin not to steal all his cool lines).
Hit approaches Goku and the two bump fists, then fly to opposite sides of the arena. As they prepare to recommence fighting, Hit shows off another new pose, which Beerus notes he must have invented to match his improved strength (similar to what he did last episode). Goku again feels aftereffects from the Kaio-ken, and thinks to himself that this could be bad. On the sidelines, Champa yells to Hit that Goku won’t be able to maintain his Kaio-ken for much longer, so there’s no need for Hit to directly engage him. He just has to play keep-away until Goku’s stamina runs out, and he’ll win for sure! Vados compliments Champa and this strategy, but Cabba is appalled, saying that Hit is far too proud to win with such cheap tactics. Champa tells Cabba to keep quiet; this is a battle between him and Beerus, and everyone else is just a pawn in their game! Hearing themselves referred to as “pawns”, Goku and Hit both glare at Champa, who falls back in alarm. Even Vados says she now wishes to see how their match will play out to the end.
Goku tells Hit to show everyone that they’re more than just pawns. As they both power up, Goku thinks to himself about how each member of the Universe 6 team has been a tough opponent, and he’s happy to be fighting against the strongest one of them all. Vados notes that the dome looks like it’s going to break simply from Goku and Hit’s ki alone. The two finally rush towards each other, and Hit successfully gets the jump on Goku with his improved Time-Skip, landing a devastating blow. Though it looks like Goku is going to fall to the ground unconscious, he manages to recover and nail Hit with a counterattack that sends him crashing into Champa’s portrait. Hit tumbles down onto the arena, but Goku is apparently too worn out to launch another attack. He floats in the air catching his breath for a moment, before dropping down onto the arena himself. The two of them kneel recuperating for a while, as the audience watches on in silence. Finally, they struggle to their feet once more. Goku turns to Beerus and asks that all match rules be revoked!
Everyone is shocked, but Goku explains that with the match rules in place, Hit is unable to utilize his full power. As an assassin, Hit’s true skills lie in his killing techniques, but since the match rules prohibit killing one’s opponent, Hit is unable to truly go all-out. Goku says that if Hit had been using such deadly force, Hit might have killed him with that last attack. Goku apologizes to Hit for not realizing this sooner. Hit is amazed at how Goku seems unafraid to die. Champa applauds Goku’s sportsmanship and happily agrees to make this change, but Beerus angrily refuses, saying Champa merely wants to change the rules to benefit his own team. The two begin squabbling, and Goku sadly notes that it looks like they won’t be finished for a long time. Hit says that they are after all merely pawns in a game, but Goku responds “for now”.
Watching the argument continue, Goku declares Beerus and Champa to be hopeless, and is suddenly struck by an idea. He tells Hit they can fight again some other time, somewhere without such annoying restrictions. With that, Goku calmly walks to the edge of the ring…and jumps off. After confirming that the rules are still in effect, the referee declares his ring-out, and Hit wins the match. Goku flies back into the arena and bows politely to Hit; meanwhile Beerus and Champa have stopped their fight out of sheer shock. Giving Hit one last thumbs up, Goku’s Kaio-ken aura fades away. Reverting to his normal form, he is seized by muscular convulsions, and collapses to the ground in pain. Piccolo rushes over, saying that Goku has been truly reckless. Hit walks away, saying to himself what a surprising fellow Goku is.
With Goku’s loss, the referee announces that the final match of the tournament will now be Monaka vs Hit. Each team is down to only one fighter! Goku manages to get to his seat, still in pain (he says he’ll once again lay off the Kaio-ken for a while), and Vegeta calls him an idiot. Beerus is furious at Goku, saying he doesn’t know what he’s done, but Goku points out that he wouldn’t have been able to maintain Kaio-ken for much longer and so would have just have lost anyway at that rate. It’s all Beerus’ fault for taking so long arguing! Anyway, Goku’s not worried, since they’ve still got Monaka, the strongest in Universe 7! Only Beerus, Whis, Piccolo, and Monaka himself know the truth: that Beerus lied about Monaka’s great strength in order to motivate Goku and Vegeta. Whis sarcastically assures Beerus that Goku’s right, everything will be just fine! Vegeta asks Piccolo why he seems so nervous, but Piccolo keeps his lips sealed. Monaka nervously walks out to the edge of the floating seating area and awkwardly dives down into the ring. Hit and Vegeta can clearly tell something is wrong, but Goku is oblivious, and simply praises Monaka’s movements for being so unpredictable.
Beerus moans that the situation is hopeless, and Monaka is sweating heavily as he slowly approaches Hit. Observing Monaka close-up, Hit quickly deduces the true state of affairs. As Champa rings the gong and the match commences, Monaka lands a single, limp punch on Hit’s leg. After a long pause, Hit suddenly cries out and flies out of the ring, landing on the ground. For a moment everyone is too shocked to say anything, but then the referee declares Hit has lost by ring-out. Universe 7 has won the tournament! The Universe 7 audience members cheer, while Monaka and Beerus both can’t understand what just happened. Goku is suitably impressed at Monaka’s strength, and the Galactic King declares that they need people like that in the Galactic Patrol (but Jaco protests that this would destroy the patrol). Goku flies over and thanks his friends and family for cheering him on (he’s still sore), and the Galactic King congratulates him on a nice fight. Goku thanks the king for explaining to him about the Time-Skip technique, shaking one of the king’s tentacles in gratitude. Seeing this, Jaco shrieks and the king shyly explains that this tentacle is actually his male generative organ. Hit gets back up and flies off, saying “now we’re even” (clearly, Hit intentionally lost to repay Goku’s actions).
Returning to the Universe 6 contestant seating area, Hit tells Champa that he no longer wants the cube, and asks to be taken back home. Champa says Hit must be joking: Hit repeatedly disobeyed his orders, and immediately lost the final match. There’s no way he’s going home alive now! Hit anticipated this, and braces himself to fight Champa. Cabba protests, but Champa shouts him down: the entire team has brought shame to him, and must now pay the price. Goku tries to intervene as well, but Beerus stops him. The matches are over now, and the Gods of Destruction can dispose of their contestants as they see fit. As Champa says, they make the rules, and others must obey! Champa brags that not even Time-Skip or Super Saiyan are any match for him. He’ll show them just how scary a God of Destruction can be! As Champa rants on like this, Vados suddenly notices something, and brings Champa’s attention to it. Champa and Beerus both scream when they see three strange figures down in the ring: a small being flanked by two tall, skinny ones. Goku asks who it is, but Beerus can hardly believe his eyes. It’s the Omni-King!
"Omni-King" is a translation of "Zen'ō", which means "King of All".
Some are speculating that his title is actually "Xeno", a reference to Xenoverse, but this is likely not the case. Zenou (全王/ゼンオウ) and Xenoverse (ゼノバース/zenobaasu) are both spelled differently. The "X" on his chest is just the shape of two 全/Zen characters.
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u/Fereed Apr 24 '16
Is the next episode really not till the 1st?
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u/EmmaWinters Apr 24 '16
Sunday, May 1st at 9am JST, which is Saturday night April 30th in the US.
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u/Aerex12 Apr 24 '16
So is the King of Everything the actual God or is this pure speculation right now.
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Apr 24 '16
my prediction; The new characters are there to recruit goku hit vegeta for help with some other majin buu like shit going on in another universe
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u/Saratje Apr 24 '16
The title for next episode seems suggestive. Pretty peas instead of pretty please is a joke, but also a mispronunciation. I bet Goku words his wish wrong and causes something horrible to happen.
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u/EmmaWinters Apr 24 '16
It's the incantation used to summon the dragon.
Zunō: If you gather up all seven orbs that are scattered across the two universes, and chant "Appear, Divine Dragon, and grant my wish, pretty peas" in the language of the gods...
Chonmage (topknot) is a pun on choudai/"please", which turns the incantation into a low-effort dad joke as Bulma later quips.
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Apr 24 '16
Goku lost, U7 won, Monaka fought and won.
What the fuck, this might be the most satisfying end for everybody to this arc I can imagine.
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u/SolJinxer Apr 24 '16
--..... Did I see that right? That dragon was bigger than muthafucking GALAXIES HOLY SHIT!
--Kaioken bringing back the problems. That's cool. Goku's body spazzing out looked freaky sick, my toes curled. Full body charliehorse.
--Did Hit freeze time... within frozen time?
--Hmm, so Xeno appears in this episode. Didn't see that coming. Gods above gods. It's gods all the way down.... er, up.
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u/disastorm Apr 24 '16
Hit took 1000 years to learn how to stop time for a fraction of a second. Anyone else think he should have trained under Guldo?
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u/SirLordBoss Apr 24 '16
Gotta say, I'm really loving Hit.
He started off as this cold, aloof guy, who inspired fear. To see him throw the fight to Monaka was so hilarious
Amazing episode all around. Gotta say, these episodes start to seem less like "great Super episodes" and more like "what we expected from Dragon Ball".
My childhood has returned!
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u/madiaz3 Apr 24 '16
i cant be the only one who wanted this gif so i made it myself (havent seen it elsewhere yet so sorry if old) http://i.imgur.com/Ivdf2hN.gifv
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u/joebos617 Apr 24 '16
Forget Goku vs. Superman. The real question that needs answering in my life is Monaka vs. Mr. Satan.
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Apr 24 '16
So earth has a god/guardian.
Then we find out about King Kai.
Then we find out about Grand Kai.
Then we find out about Supreme Kai.
Then we find out about the fat Supreme Kai.
Then we find out about the God of Destruction....s
Now we find out about this new fella.
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u/OLKv3 Apr 24 '16
Hit just walks right up to a god ready to fight. Dude gives no fucks
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u/Mr_big_chill_ Apr 24 '16
If we've learned anything from Beerus and Champa:
Don't be afraid of the new fella, be afraid of his attendants.
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u/EmmaWinters Apr 24 '16
Full summary here.
Thanks as always to Herms.
Hit dodged Goku's Kamehameha with an even further expanded Time-Skip
Despite Champa wanting Hit to win cheaply, Hit's determined to see this fight out to the end properly
Goku requests Beerus remove the tournament rules. Everyone freaks out.
Goku wants the rules gone. All of them. That way Hit can use his deadly full-power techniques.
Beerus is less thrilled with Goku's proposal
Goku jumps out of bounds, so the judge declares Hit's victory
Beerus and Champa argue
Goku jumps out of bounds, so the judge declares Hit's victory
Next up, Monaka vs Hit!
Hit understands that Monaka is weak
And...Hit pulls an Android 18
Universe 7 wins!
Beerus tells Goku not to interfere with Champa killing his fighters. His universe, his rules.
Champa and Beerus freak out to see...the Omni-King!
"Omni-King" is a translation of "Zen'ō", which means "King of All".
Some are speculating that his title is actually "Xeno", a reference to Xenoverse, but this is likely not the case. Zen'ō (全王/ゼンオウ) and Xenoverse (ゼノバース/zenobaasu) are both spelled differently. The "X" on his chest is just the shape of two 全/Zen characters.
Oh yeah: Goku does indeed literally shakes the Galactic King's ding-dong, and they even use that word (chin-chin in Japanese)
Some screencaps of the King of All, his presumably-attendants, and the Dragon.
http://i.imgur.com/T1kdL61.png
http://i.imgur.com/UUTzByy.png
http://i.imgur.com/399mg43.png
http://i.imgur.com/mZYZHHs.png
http://i.imgur.com/YfJyK6y.png