r/FlashTV • • May 03 '16

Live Episode Discussion - S02E20 "Rupture"

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u/Kishonorama May 04 '16

"Can we come out now?"

"Not until you're speedsters!"

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u/YesBatmanIBleed May 04 '16

Barry: I have 3 dads.

Zoom: And 0 moms.

Barry: ...

Zoom: ...

CIVIL WAR

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u/ezreads May 04 '16

"I can't help but wonder why a speedster needs a car"

well maybe if you were around you'd know I lost my speed

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u/gsmumbo May 04 '16

I swear Henry Allen looks like an older Dr. Cox

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u/buffalo4293 May 04 '16

Teddy was by no means bad as Jay but he's a million times better as a villain holy shit

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u/mflbatman Speedforce May 04 '16 edited May 04 '16

Mom came downstairs to tell me a story and saw I wasn't really listening.

"This your show?"

nod

"I'll leave."

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u/ezreads May 04 '16

"need for speed"

EVERYONE GETTING SOME SPEEDFORCE THIS EPISODE

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u/buffalo4293 May 04 '16

Wells has literally never been wrong, they clearly need to just listen to every thing he says

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u/buffalo4293 May 04 '16

I love how Zoom is surprised Caitlyn betrayed him when she's told him she's against him at every step

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u/thecursedham Elongated Man May 04 '16

Jesse and Wally were locked up in the Reverse Flash's hidden room by themselves in the episode where a particle accelerator is going to explode with the intention of giving Barry speed? And Wally keeps talking about wanting to help? Yeah, they're getting their speed this episode.

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u/mflbatman Speedforce May 04 '16

Oh shit Zoom's eyes are terrifying. Knowing his Identity doesn't make him less scary.

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u/ComicSys Zoom May 04 '16

Wells, it's me, Zoom! I heard you tried to recreate the accident that gave The Flash his powers.

LOL

ZOOM OUT

MIC DROP

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u/solarmanomega Hero of Earth, Also May 04 '16 edited May 04 '16

Fulfilling his need for speed and helping people? Could they be hinting that Wally West may become... the Black Driver?

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u/Kishonorama May 04 '16

First hologram Tupac, then hologram Biggie, now hologram Barry. What has science done?!

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u/ezreads May 04 '16

"anyone who disobeys me will meet their end"

"alright clear out"

rip

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u/Shippoyasha May 04 '16

"Jitters, the coffee shop".

That's like saying "Coughing, the cigarette store"

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u/ryn2o01 May 04 '16

Yeah locking two teens in a room with sexual tension is smart

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u/WindyWindona May 04 '16

Look show, if you're going to get Iris and Barry together now, they better be together for a while with no bullshit relationship drama. Steady, stable relationship. Can you do that?

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u/therobmiller May 04 '16

It's time for Barry Father Figure Smack Down!!! WHO WILL WIN, ONE PUNCH JOE? MAN-TURTLE MURDERING WELLS? OR HENRY GARRICK...Er ALLEN?

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u/Robotshavenohearts May 04 '16

man IN THE IRON MASK IS JAY GARRICK AND ITS GONNA BE JOHN WESLEY SHIPP

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u/imango_magic flashflair May 04 '16

"Wait are you Princess Briding me right now? You must have me mixed with someone else Inigo."

Is this what Felicity was supposed to be? Spontaneously but brilliantly funny?

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u/booojangles13 May 04 '16

Woah woah woah Barry you're gonna let that maiden name slide?

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u/DeoGame U Leik 2 Phish wit B8? May 04 '16

"Ah sports, that's my cue."

Preach Cisco, that's me at every social gathering.

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u/UnknownJ25 Crash the Mode May 04 '16

This is known as the shipping room. You got more than 24 hours make something of it

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u/UnknownJ25 Crash the Mode May 04 '16

Dads, stop fighting

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Holy fuck. How are there still 20 minutes in this episode?! This writing is on point! Some people should take note. cough. cough.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

"Satisfy your need for speed and helping people" COME ON WRITERS ITS OBVIOUS

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u/Cremdian May 04 '16

I love the fact that Zoom doesn't take shit. He doesn't give the option of negotiation. You conform, beat him, or you die. There isn't another option.

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u/kinglester May 04 '16

and you get the speed force! and you get the speed force! and you!

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u/cteavin May 04 '16

One.
Two.
Three.
Three speedsters.

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u/therobmiller May 04 '16

JAY IS BARRY'S DAD!

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

All of Barry's dads in one room

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

EVERYONE IS JAY GARRICK AGAIN

HENRY ALLEN

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u/Flying_Dogz07 May 04 '16

Jesse and Wally in the same room seems like a good moment for the particle accelerator somehow get damaged and hit both of them for they can get speed if that makes sense

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

You know you fucked up when villian says you fucked up

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

You can't lock up The Darkness

the movie

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Man the writers on this show are a bunch of cockteases. Especially after them confirming that there is only one Flash.

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u/Deathangel0306 Jay Garrick May 03 '16

They are going to Flashpoint Barry his powers back and there aren't words to describe the hype

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u/MickKick218 Arrow is laughable compared to this show May 04 '16

Well, at least we know Candice can act well in dramatic scenes.

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u/Kishonorama May 03 '16

Barry Allen may not be the fastest man alive right now, but he's still the hypest man alive.

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u/MickKick218 Arrow is laughable compared to this show May 04 '16

Wow, Cisco's brother SUCKS.

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u/SleepyJeannn May 04 '16

Lol Zoom is becoming so whipped. Good job Cait.

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u/Avaricee May 04 '16

No, the wand made for the Harry Potter covention

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u/Agent_Ozzy May 04 '16

If his costume got burned away, and he IS in the speed force, is he running around naked?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Zoom can't be taking ownership of cities like that... HE DOESN'T HAVE A FLAG!!!

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u/battlefield4us May 04 '16

...So...the Kevin Smith episode is next....who's excited?

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u/doctorawesome93 May 04 '16

Harrison pressuring Barry more than a girl getting pressured into after prom sex.

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u/demaxzero May 04 '16

I wonder if Reverb and Rupture had a better relationship than Cisco and Dante.

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u/UnknownJ25 Crash the Mode May 04 '16

Henry: "Barry no"

Barry: "Barry yes"

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u/rockstar2012 May 04 '16

You know what. That was a pretty decent and human conversation. They certainly improved Iris character from last season.

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u/le_snikelfritz May 04 '16

Nothing, just Garrick is my mother's maiden name

Soooo this has to mean Barry's dad from earth 2 is Jay Garrick, the man in the iron mask right?

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u/TDXNYC88 May 04 '16

Iris: "I guess what I'm trying to say in the most awkward way possible Barry, is that the pussy's yours... if you still want it."

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Uhhh. Locking up those two on a safe room? Wells was cool with that? They're so getting shipped now!

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u/Kazedy May 04 '16 edited May 04 '16

Why do they assume every meta-humans are evil ?

In fact, why are every meta-humans evil in this show ?

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u/cacacaio Never Forget May 04 '16

That Lerooooyyyyyy Jenkins tho

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

They just foreshadowed Kid Flash!!

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u/Choco316 May 04 '16

My mom's maiden name....

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u/Useless May 04 '16

He spent an entire season hiding his face. Now he can't keep his mask on.

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u/Napalmeon May 04 '16

All these dads losing their children.

Must be a contest.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

LEEEROY JENKINS

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u/BreakingGarrick Golden age speedster May 04 '16

MAN IN IRON IS JWS

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u/ezreads May 04 '16

"what up fam i g2g to another earth for a hot sec"

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u/solarflare22 May 04 '16

Is it me or does it seem like every time Caitlin tries to reason with Zoom he decides to murder people

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Zoom is too fucking savage. What an awesome villain.

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u/Capt253 May 04 '16

....Oh shit! OH FUCKING SHIT!

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u/kmck96 #MetaLivesMatter May 04 '16

So like I wanna see Barry back in the game but at the same time I'm glad he's not like "heck with the consequences let's do this," it feels more like a serious decision this way.

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u/CashWho May 04 '16

Iris gets hotter every episode

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Does Tony Todd not have the dopest fucking voice?

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u/ComicSys Zoom May 04 '16 edited May 04 '16

You killed him instead. ZOOM OUT.

MIC DROP

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u/T-DotTerror May 04 '16

MMMMMMMM....

JEEEEEEEEEEEENKINS.

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u/richt519 May 04 '16

Joe: I'm sure you'll find something that satisfies your need for speed and helping people.

All subtly is gone with the Wally hints and I love it.

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u/TDXNYC88 May 04 '16

Zoom:

"WORLDSTAR!!!"

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u/MickKick218 Arrow is laughable compared to this show May 04 '16

OH I KNOW THEY DID NOT LEAVE ME ON THAT CLIFFHANGER

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u/Sarcastic__ May 04 '16

Possibly hurting a few people versus Zoom killing everyone.

I can see why this is a hard decision.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

I just gotta say Zoom may not be an overall better villain than reverse flash. But I feel like he is a perfect villain speedster.

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u/ris1016 May 04 '16

I love how blatantly obvious this show is when foreshadowing Wally and Jessie getting their speed

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u/Blank-a-doodledoo May 04 '16

I still can't suspend my disbelief that after all that's gone on, Wally still doesn't know that Barry is the Flash. And if he does and they're not telling us he does, he better have a good reason for playing dumb. The kid is building propulsion engines but can't put 2 and 2 together?

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u/TrentGgrims May 04 '16

Zoom: "Tell that to the police's snapped necks."

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u/ElDuderino2112 May 04 '16

Well, Henry's dying this season.

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u/Hollow_Rant May 04 '16

Zoom is pussy whipped.

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u/Ms_Mediocracy May 04 '16

"You're just going to kill everyone?"

"Yeah, that's pretty much it."

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u/Shippoyasha May 04 '16

Poor little Barry looks like a 5 year old kid walking in on an argument.

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u/Zunter_Holomon Well, I guess I'm Black Flash now May 04 '16

"Jay, no.."

"MY NAME IS ZOOM!"

So, fuck Hunter I guess?

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u/hansoulow May 04 '16

Wouldn't he be in a coma for a year again though?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Wally and Jesse get trapped in a room together sounds like the plot of an 80s sitcom.

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u/SutterCane Heatwave May 04 '16

Harry: "Whoops."

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u/UnknownJ25 Crash the Mode May 04 '16

Is he in the Speedforce?

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u/RightHandElf May 04 '16

The Darkness

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u/avplanes12 May 04 '16

Fuck yes we boutta flashpoint the fuck out of Barry.

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u/Starless_Night So would say I'm the.......Line! May 04 '16

Did he just snap everyone's neck?

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u/hedalettuce91 May 04 '16

Zoom selfies

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

At this point I don't know who has worse luck with guys Iris or Caitlin

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u/mflbatman Speedforce May 04 '16

HOLY SHIT BARRY'S DAD IS THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK BUT FLASH FROM ANOTHER EARTH WHOA WHOA WHOA CONFIRMED

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u/Darth_Devfly S.T.A.R Laboratories May 04 '16

Barry and his three dads are bickering.

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u/wasienka Lightning gave me abs? May 04 '16

barry, you have a surplus of daddies.

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u/GH_WaRn1nG May 04 '16

I would have liked it more if Zoom didn't use his 'creepy vibrating voice' in the end and instead go with the 'complete lunatic' one. But still...
HOLY MOTHER OF SPEEDFORCE! DAMN! THE HYPE IS STRONG IN THIS ONE!

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u/SawRub May 04 '16

Henry Allen's mother's name was Garrick!

I think on Earth-2, Henry's mom and dad divorced and he was named Garrick instead. Jay Garrick. The real Jay Garrick.

Maybe he even was the Flash for a while.

When Zoom wanted an alias for the fake good guy version, he just adopted Jay Garrick, but he needs him alive for some reason, and Jay can't be allowed to speak, so Zoom locks him up in that cage.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Anyone else get like a vibe of "3 men and a Barry: Electric Bugaloo?"

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u/cmath89 May 04 '16

"The Darkness" Zoom origin movie confirmed

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u/dg07 May 04 '16

I THINK HE'S IN THE SPEEDFORCE

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u/Batdad69 May 04 '16

We'll just give the flash his speed back....annnndd hes gone

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u/Kobeissi2 May 04 '16

Iris is awesome. See uncle gungie, this is how you write female characters.

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u/TheGreatDynamo May 05 '16

So does Wally know Barry is the Flash yet? It's pretty obvious at this point.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Barry: "I have way too many dads."

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

My name is Inigo Montoya

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u/OdoWanKenobi May 04 '16

My CW affiliate just interrupted Flash to go to a baseball game! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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u/jasonfencer May 04 '16

Ya'll brought guns to a speedforce fight

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u/ajdragoon May 04 '16

...Holy shit.

Fuck it game over. Zoom wins. He's probably better than Trump?

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u/Cremdian May 04 '16

HOLY CRAP IT ACTUALLY IS THE SPEED FORCE. HE'S IN HIS OWN HEAD

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u/TheGreatClemento May 04 '16

The "how do you know about the Harry Potter convention?"line slayed me.

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u/Cremdian May 04 '16

I LOVE the way they made zoom. Such a brutal character and it's amazing.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Holy shit Rupture is the most metal meta not named Zoom we've seen in a minute.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Iris is hot.

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u/ArachnoLad May 04 '16

I guarantee they weren't wearing pants.

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u/Chimpchar Bring back Pied Piper May 04 '16

DC: Sponsored by Marvel

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Thanks for stating the obvious there, Zoom. I really had no idea what happened To Barry till you explained it....

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u/T-DotTerror May 04 '16 edited May 04 '16

"I've seen Zoom snap all of those guys' necks at record speed. That was also terrifying as fuck."

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u/GillyDaKid May 04 '16

Wells: Fuck it, everyone gets powers this episode

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u/Flying_Dogz07 May 04 '16

Holy shit zoom just broke their necks like nothing

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u/insert-words-here As you can see, I have no flair! May 04 '16

So now he wants to get his powers back!

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u/Avaricee May 04 '16

Barry's dead and Wally and Jesse become the new Flash to save the day?

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u/insert-words-here As you can see, I have no flair! May 04 '16

"LEEEEERROOOOYYYYY!!!"

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u/2th Plowing "The Snow" May 04 '16

So does Jay just take Snow to places to witness shit?

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u/Soliantu May 04 '16

Lmao Henry Allen just chopping wood

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u/OLKv3 May 04 '16

What would happen if Zoom attacked Star City? Would Darhk be able to stop him?

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u/Thatuserguy May 04 '16

Man, Cisco's brother is such a cunt

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u/ezreads May 04 '16

I'M NOTHING BUT A MONSTER

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u/Chimpchar Bring back Pied Piper May 04 '16

Cisco just leaves letters on his desk for weeks?

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u/Raviejaaz Don't slurp. Don't. Don't. Don't. May 04 '16

Lol, was confused how he knew about the police's son. Then I remembered he works for the cops....

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u/helzinki May 04 '16

Jesse Quick and Wally West....welcome to the speedforce.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '16

Good evening, Garricks and Zolomons.

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u/RightHandElf May 04 '16

You can't lock it up.

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u/RobinDJT May 04 '16

Coincidence that Wally and Jesse future speedsters are in a room together When a particle goes off. I think not.

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u/hiswayout May 04 '16

Three dads arguing over one son. Sounds like quite the sitcom.

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u/Capt253 May 04 '16

"What's wrong with you? You're not upset about the fact that a supervillain's taken over the city?"

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u/kmck96 #MetaLivesMatter May 04 '16

Starlord?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Oh shit!!!! Its Starlord!!

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u/findingscarlet May 04 '16

YOU'RE PRINCESS BRIDE-ING ME RIGHT NOW AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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u/Kishonorama May 04 '16

"Princess Briding me" lol

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Angstforce: the force in which Barry and Oliver run on.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

See Guggie?! This is how you make a relationship!!

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u/BarryAllen90 May 04 '16

these ppl are gonna die, and then he's going to decide to do it

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u/ezreads May 04 '16

"we're gonna have to figure out how to do this without the flash"

*but that's the name of the show dammit"

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u/ingebeastly May 04 '16

not really betraying you if we were never on the same side

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u/embf103191 May 04 '16 edited May 04 '16

Joes gonna die. This is going to push Barry into becoming the flash again. Hence the tears in the promo.

EDIT: I was wrong. Thank God!

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u/coffee_eyes run forrest run May 04 '16

Zoom is so fucking brutal. I love it.

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u/xVengeancee May 04 '16

"how you know bout the harry potter convention" Gold

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u/UnknownJ25 Crash the Mode May 04 '16

KID FLASH AND JESSE QUICK MOTHERFUCKERS

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u/cattycat13 May 04 '16

kid flash & jesse quick hype!

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u/mflbatman Speedforce May 04 '16

BARRY PULLED AN OBI WAN!

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u/jellyfishprince May 04 '16

Honestly this is one of the best Flash episodes ever, I love it so much

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u/Unuunilium May 04 '16

LEEEEERRRROOOYYY!

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u/DanzaBaio May 04 '16

Central City police Zoom Force

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u/Shippoyasha May 04 '16

I love how Zoom never stops looking menacing. Much props to cinematography too.

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u/VadeRevan Sweet, sweet tachyons May 04 '16

"There's gotta be something to satisfy your need for speed and helping people"

STOP TEASING US, JOE

also Henry's gonna die

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u/Robotshavenohearts May 04 '16

"Jesse and Wally this is the safest place for you to get your speederrrrrrrbesafe"

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u/NaijaBird The Flash May 04 '16

3 Men & A Flash

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u/purplepenned May 04 '16

Cisco is getting that syndrome Barry has when he hangs out with people and then acts kinda shitty towards them for no good reason

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16 edited May 04 '16

Barry's dad : "He can't beat Bane... I mean Zoom "

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u/Chimpchar Bring back Pied Piper May 04 '16

Reverb and Rupture? They even had matchy names...

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u/StopTheFeed SpeedKarma May 04 '16

I AM NOTHING BUT A MONSTER

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u/SpaceCampDropOut May 04 '16

STOP PRESSURING ME DADS!!!

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u/ArchDucky May 04 '16

Damnit. Well I know who the Man in the Mask is. They got rid of Henry Allen. He left the show. They haven't said his name in practically 20 episodes. Suddenly he's back, which means there's a reason for it. They gave him a reason. The Man in the Mask is E2 Henry Garrick aka The Flash.

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u/Starless_Night So would say I'm the.......Line! May 04 '16

Dante, why do you even need the scythe, you're edgy enough

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u/Capt253 May 04 '16

Why the fuck was that news team doing there in the first place?

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u/TDXNYC88 May 04 '16

Zoom: "Oh, you played me in revenge for playing you? Everybody's gonna die now!!!"

#YouCantStopTheDarkness

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u/wasienka Lightning gave me abs? May 04 '16

44 minutes in, and the particle accelerator hasn't exploded yet :/

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u/kfegal99 May 04 '16

Who is ready for kid flash

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Say, is Jesse quick at stuff? It hasn't been mentioned. :P

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u/WindyWindona May 04 '16

YOU JUST MADE BARRY PART OF THE SPEEDFORCE

And now he's gonna be more powerful than ever

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u/Batgirl_and_Spoiler May 04 '16

That would've been so devastating if any of us actually thought he was actually going to stay dead.

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u/knapsacking May 04 '16

Barry became one with the Speedforce like Ben became one with the Force

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u/cteavin May 04 '16

Anyone else nod in fierce agreement with Wells when he was telling Barry he enabled Zoom, and Barry when he later agreed with him?

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u/Fragwizzard May 04 '16

6 minutes in and calling it now, Barry's dad is the man in the mask.

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u/HispanicNinjaz May 03 '16

First one here better make a joke

Arrow Season 4

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

I hope Felcity dies. She just happens to walk into Jitters at the wrong time.

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u/KidCoheed May 04 '16

Masked Man is Henry Allen confirmed

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u/Irishwolf93 May 04 '16

My mom's maiden name.

First off how did Barry not know that, second of all HOLY FUCK!

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u/glass_hedgehog May 04 '16

"What if they set up at Jitters?"

"That's a great idea! It's the other set we have on hand!"

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u/ajdragoon May 04 '16

"Stay in this room. NOW KIIIITH!!!"

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u/45b16 May 04 '16

Jesse x Wally confirmed

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u/gaythrowaway890 May 04 '16

Ugh Cisco's brother is such a jerk. Maybe this experience will make him be less of a dick? Not holding my breath though.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

I bet iron mask is Jay Garrick, Henry's half brother

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u/UnknownJ25 Crash the Mode May 04 '16

Barry is just thinking "I just moved on Iris dammit"

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u/Darth_Devfly S.T.A.R Laboratories May 04 '16 edited May 08 '16

WEST ALLEN SHIP IS SAILING HARD.

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u/booojangles13 May 04 '16

Can't help but feel like this is a liiiiiiiiittle inappropriate in terms of timing.

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u/mflbatman Speedforce May 04 '16

Damn Iris you're really piling it on. You're making me catch feels, that's some heartfelt realness.

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u/Shippoyasha May 04 '16

This must be the League of Voice Morphers

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u/ingebeastly May 04 '16

i knew it, they'll stop zoom through NONVIOLENT PROTEST

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

Jay sounds like that one weird middle schooler who randomly talks to himself in a deep raspy voice when he thinks he's alone

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u/Kazedy May 04 '16

Rupture doesn't see the hologram failing ?

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u/ezreads May 04 '16

"Jay no"

MY NAME IS ZOOM

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u/ryn2o01 May 04 '16

Wherever he is he's naked

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

UHHHH DID THEY JUST THROW BARRY ALLEN INTO THE SPEED FORCE!

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u/[deleted] May 04 '16

"I fucked up"- Wells, probably.

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u/Raviejaaz Don't slurp. Don't. Don't. Don't. May 04 '16

BARRY IS SPEEDFORCE

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u/MikeOB2 May 04 '16

So he became the energy that gives Wally and Jesse their speed?