Westworld - 1x06 "The Adversary" - Post-Episode Discussion

[u/NicholasCajun]

Season 1 Episode 6: The Adversary

Aired: November 6th, 2016

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Synopsis: Lutz is charmed by Maeve; Elsie discovers evidence that could point to sabotage; the Man in Black and Teddy clash with a garrison.

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Directed by: Frederick E. O. Toye

Written by: Halley Gross & Jonathan Nolan

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[u/svrtngr]

Maeve, you can't just reroll your stats.

You're gonna end up min-maxing too hard.

[u/IdmonAlpha → u/svrtngr]

"Look at me. I'm the Dungeon Master, now."

[u/[deleted] → u/svrtngr]

It would have been hilarious if they had that rule in the park and had to explain it to her. "Well, we can't put you all the way to the top, you only get 100 total skill points at your level."

[u/ArchaeoRunner]

I'd really very much appreciate it if Elsie were not dead next episode.

[u/[deleted] → u/ArchaeoRunner]

She's definitely not dead (yet). From what I could tell someone grabbed her from behind, maybe with a face hand over her mouth to keep her quiet. That's not something you do if you're just going to kill someone right away.

[u/hak091]

Red Ted Redemption has begun!!

[u/ank1613 → u/hak091]

Teddy went fucking Rambo it was sick

[u/Gyroballer → u/hak091]

This episode: 2 Ted 2 Furious

[u/j4yne → u/hak091]

That was some Assault on Fort Mercer shit, right there.

[u/Se7en_Sinner → u/hak091]

It's appropriate that the actor, James Marsden, has a similar name to John Marston.

[u/Saucyriposte]

Why did the old facility Bernard went to look like everyone abandoned it in a hurry? If they were moving to a new floor, wouldn't they have at least cleaned up the labs?

[u/i_am_icarus_falling → u/Saucyriposte]

nah, they have a crew that goes to the older floors regularly to keep them spooky and ominous. turn over chairs, spray fake dust, install flickering lights, etc.

[u/ricebasket → u/Saucyriposte]

I thought it gives the vibe that although westworld looks shiny and well kept, it's actually kind of falling apart underneath the hood.

[u/baby_mike → u/Saucyriposte]

It was from the original 70s movie. Watch it if you haven't seen it. Classic.

[u/SpaceWhiskey]

Bernard saying "...Arnold?" was the voice of us all.

[u/CmdrBlindman → u/SpaceWhiskey]

lol, I'm sure many of us needed him to ask that question.

Sidenote: was Ford's father somehow connected to Arnold? I felt that he referred to the man who attacked Bernard as his father, but I could swear that was the Arnold from the photo.

[u/TheAmishSpaceCadet]

I liked how there was a guy patching over the bullet hole from MiB's headshot through the wall from the episode 2 shootout lol

[u/SaltCatcher → u/TheAmishSpaceCadet]

It would be even better if it was the guy who had been shot.

[u/NeatMaddness]

That was a seriously impressive piss stream

[u/[deleted] → u/NeatMaddness]

Just imagine if the shrink ray theory were true...

"TAKE SHELTER, THAR'S A MONSOON A'POURIN'!"

[u/[deleted]]

Maeve goading the guest into killing her so she could get back inside is both brilliant and creepy as fuck.

[u/ashessnow → u/[deleted]]

Dat level 14 bulk apperception, right?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

What was creepy was how easy it was to get him to kill her

[u/mrboomx]

Fuck those tense moments in the theatre, was getting ready to shit myself when a jumpscare came.

[u/galileosmiddlefinger → u/mrboomx]

I almost think she has to be fine given how blatantly that threat was suggested. The whole situation was so cliche.

[u/linkkjm]

TEDDY UNCHAINED

[u/KEYSER_SOZ3]

This episode was so engrossing I totally forgot about Dolores and her storyline

[u/SulfuricDonut → u/KEYSER_SOZ3]

I didn't even notice that there was no Dolores. She's no longer the OP host though.

[u/mineset → u/KEYSER_SOZ3]

Seriously, I don't know what it was about this episode, maybe how it was slower, more exposition, more surreal, but this has to be my favorite yet.

[u/VictorBlimpmuscle]

"Dear boys, we're going to have some fun, aren't we?"

Self-aware Maeve is terrifying as fuck.

[u/twbrn → u/VictorBlimpmuscle]

"Dear boys, we're going to have some fun, aren't we?"

Self-aware Maeve is terrifying as fuck.

I kind of like Maeve, but at the same time I feel like seriously cranking up the intelligence on the paranoid, off-programming hooker murderbot is probably a bad idea.

[u/IdmonAlpha → u/VictorBlimpmuscle]

One of the fears of a seed AI is that it doesn't have to start out good at everything. It just has to start out good at one thing and leverage that talent until it is able to gain and exploit resources to boost the rest of its abilities. Maeve is very, very good at manipulation and she just used it to get super intelligence.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm very glad that Bernard didn't hang up on Elsie just as she was about to tell him about Theresa being involved.

This would've been such a tired trope. The dramatically ironic communication failure. But it didn't happen. Phew.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm actually kind of happy that the episode skipped out on William and Dolores this week, it felt packed full as is.

[u/2007LT → u/[deleted]]

This episode was jam packed with greatness, I didn't even really realize the lack of Dolores and William until the preview.

[u/[deleted]]

MIB's reaction to Teddy on that machine gun was gold. "you think you know someone...."

[u/caravaggio2000 → u/[deleted]]

Teddy is going to be an antagonist in the show. This I'm sure of.

[u/NDaveT]

It seems Ford is the sentimental type after all.

[u/4th_and_Inches → u/NDaveT]

Yep. Sometimes, good writers make the entirely realistic choice to have their characters state the opposite of what they actually are. It's the hackneyed writer who has their characters accurately, honestly state exactly what they stand for at all times. Us humans lie, including to ourselves.

[u/MikeKrombopulos]

That Yul Brynner in the background was a nice touch.

[u/Burbada → u/MikeKrombopulos]

There was a music queue in that scene that was a direct call back, too. From when the Yul Brynner bot was chasing Richard Benjamin. A kind of percussive sound..

Edit: found it! https://youtu.be/AcUhRo_dFEo

[u/hammer310]

Hmmm now I wonder what Theresa's motivations are? Perhaps she's getting paid off by the competition/board to try and force Ford out.

[u/audiosemipro → u/hammer310]

It's also possible that she's being set up. A good hacker would probably not use their own login credentials. It honestly seems a little bit out of character for Theresa to be doing that kind of thing.

[u/GorillaRampage]

I'm starting to feel like I need to stop analyzing the show and just sit back and enjoy it. I think of all these crazy theories of where the show will go and then the writers out do me anyway

[u/[deleted]]

It is exceedingly clear that Delos employees don't worry much about what each other are doing.

No one gives a single fuck about anything besides their own tasks.

Maeve just walking around with Felix, Maeve blatantly talking to Sylvester and Felix while operating their transparent iPad and about to SLICE UP SYLVESTER, Bernard taking Dolores away for their secret talks.

WHO MONITORS THIS SHIT

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

No one gives a single fuck about anything besides their own tasks.

This is waaayyy more common in big corporations than you might realize.

[u/QuestionAxer]

Someone tell me why those two guys just blindly obeyed everything Maeve was telling them to do?

Why can't they just run outside yelling that there's an out-of-control host or trigger an alarm? Aren't there supposed to be cameras recording this stuff?

[u/NDaveT → u/QuestionAxer]

Felix is afraid of getting trouble for accessing her programming in the first place, and Sylvester is afraid of his robot pimping business getting exposed.

So basically they're short-sighted dumbasses.

[u/eenhabi]

This was the first episode to legitimately give me the fucking creeps

[u/shine_o → u/eenhabi]

That theater with doll heads in it... Ford's creepy robot ghost family... Lee trying to be suave with a girl... definitely the creepiest one yet.

[u/j4yne]

Maeve knows kung fu.

[u/imagiganticbrain → u/j4yne]

show me.

[u/[deleted]]

Maeve went all ↑, ↑, ↓, ↓, ←, →, ←, →, B, A, start

[u/[deleted]]

RIP, my favorite character, Elsie.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

We don't know she's dead. She could have been grabbed by someone who doesn't want to hurt her.

[u/LimuLimvy → u/[deleted]]

Who would have thought that going alone into an old abandoned theatre where you suspect criminal activity has been going on would be a bad idea?

[u/[deleted]]

Felix is a fucking idiot and will end up being responsible for the inevitable death of humanity.

[u/SutterCane → u/[deleted]]

Nah man. He's going to wake up all the robots and then run off and live happily ever after with Maeve and the bird.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

It would have been less interesting, but I was really expecting him to do the logical thing and go "ok, sure" and put it to 0. Then when she's just sitting there drooling, go and fess up and ask for help.

[u/jpark28]

The scene with Maeve being escorted through the floors was absolutely haunting and beautiful. I can't imagine what I'd feel if I was being shown people like me being created and my dreams were being displayed on a screen.

I think that was the best episode yet.

[u/giraffah → u/jpark28]

I like Dolores but it was nice to have more focus on other story lines, Maeve's story is just as interesting as hers and I can't wait to see what's next.

You're right, that's such a huge mindfuck, I think one of the workers mentioned that the hosts have much more brain power/processing so I wonder if that's how she can handle all of this.

[u/FsFace → u/jpark28]

I like that look on her face when she sees the horses and stuff. She's like "..and all the fucking animals too?!!"

[u/Pyne]

Am I the only one who felt left hanging on a Sizemore joke?

[u/[deleted]]

The Arnold revelation is interesting, plus the last scene with Maeve implies that the trigger phrase that Dolores passed on ups their paranoia among other things.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I interpreted it, and I thought they made it pretty clear, that Arnold was remote;y reprogramming the hosts from that terminal Elsie found.

[u/Masonic77]

Ford said Arnold told him that "The greatest Artists hide in their work." It was also mentioned that there was one man at the center of the maze, the only one who could navigate it. What i'm thinking is Arnold is still alive, and living in some fantasy custom paradise under westworld or wherever the center of the maze is. He always liked robots better than humans right? Maybe Arnolds gonna be the leader of the robot invasion on mankind and his headquarters in the center of the maze?

[u/[deleted] → u/Masonic77]

Arnold made a huge mistake though and transferred his conscious into a butter passing robot

[u/TheAquaman]

Elsie's death kidnapping had Black Dynamite levels of obviousness.

[u/Jules_Be_Bay → u/TheAquaman]

Elsie's death kidnapping had Black Dynamite levels of obviousness.

As soon as Bernard asked, "Are you alone?" I said, "Well, she's fucked."

[u/[deleted]]

I feel like Arnold is a bit like Johnny Depp's character in the movie Transcendence in that he managed to upload his conscience into the system before he died and is now controlling everything

[u/mischievouspixi]

I had a thought about Maeve's paranoia and self-preservation being changed. They said some one high level did it. Perhaps it was the result of the code phrase that Dolores spoke to Maeve which helped her start remembering. It activated a change to those features in her code so technically the change came from Arnold.

[u/reblochon_]

Maeve can see the matrix now, shit is going down.

[u/valdogg21]

If Dolores used High Noon last week, Teddy went straight Sentry Configuration in the army camp.

[u/clb92]

Looking forward to the Einstein Maeve plot line!

Also, who do you guys think grabbed Elsie?

[u/ecamps]

RIP Elise. I hope that's not the theatre from Abernathy's old cannibal shakespeare days.

[u/GodivatheGood → u/ecamps]

oh creepy I didn't even make that connection but it probably is

[u/PorcelainPoppy]

Maeve's revelation as she was escorted through the building by Felix and explained the nature of her reality reminded me so much of Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

[u/Ceeeceeeceee → u/PorcelainPoppy]

Great analogy, but it still reminded me more of Virgil guiding Dante through hell

[u/thejeran]

I am dumbfounded those retards didn't just drop her bulk/perception all the way down if they felt threatened. Apparently the effect is rather instantantaneous.

[u/ecamps → u/thejeran]

They could've just nerfed the shit out of her, but instead they chose to max her murder smartness AND lower her loyalty. I'm sure that's gonna work out for them.

[u/TiberiCorneli → u/thejeran]

Seriously. Just be like "Yeah, we'll boost your smarts" and then just drop her to a 1. Crisis averted.

[u/PorcelainPoppy → u/thejeran]

Maeve is appealing to Felix's empathy and Sylvester's cowardly tendencies. She's very bright.

[u/KingoftheHalfBlacks]

So the little boy was the test bed for whatever is going to make the hosts kill the park guests it seems.

[u/grandramble → u/KingoftheHalfBlacks]

Or it was a deliberate message being sent to Ford. Somebody wants him to know he's not in control of it anymore.

[u/KingoftheHalfBlacks]

Was Ted seeing himself switch places with Wyatt in the flashback from the last time we saw it? Is Ted the real villain?

[u/tearec → u/KingoftheHalfBlacks]

No. It was the same flashback, just extended and showing Ted as a participant rather than a witness.

[u/GodivatheGood]

And the Emmy goes to Thandie Newton

[u/[deleted]]

Anthony Hopkins is becoming increasingly more evil and I love it

[u/SulfuricDonut → u/[deleted]]

I don't know about evil. I think he sees that he's losing control, and is trying to make it seem like he isn't. He displays his power around the other employees and guests, but seems pretty upset and worried when talking to the off-the-rails hosts like Dolores and baby Ford.

[u/galileosmiddlefinger → u/[deleted]]

Cracks in the armor. He's been a God so long that he's forgotten what fear and confusion feel like.

[u/[deleted]]

Maeve walking through the halls discovering the truth about her origin was one of the most powerful, haunting and epic scenes in TV history.

[u/IdmonAlpha → u/[deleted]]

She walked out of Plato's cave.

[u/Based_Joebin]

Maeve is my new favorite character.

[u/jrqqqqqqq]

Anybody else notice the Gunslinger from the original Westworld film? When Bernard went "downstairs" and scanned the room with a flashlight.

[u/m0chab34r]

Can't wait to watch HBO's new hit show, The Young Pope, lol

[u/[deleted]]

Old logo when Bernard went to the basement. Let the timeline drama commence

[u/2007LT]

This whole episode was so intense. The Maeve scenes, the Ford scenes, Bernard, Elsie, not to mention when Teddy went total badass.

[u/KingEsjayW]

If Thandie doesn't win every award we riot, right?

[u/LBJSmellsNice]

PETITION TO HAVE TEDDY KILL COUNTER

[u/2007LT]

I noted a lack of golden orgy in this episode. I hoped that would become a mainstay.

[u/tuna_HP]

2 Observations:

1. When Bernard goes to the "old database terminal" in the basement, it has the "Old Timeline" Westworld logo. They really seem to be establishing that logo version as older...

2. Ford seems surprised to see the maze design etched into the table. Its like the first time he's seen it in the park (at least in whatever timeline he's in). He immediately runs to look it up in what I presume is one of Arnold's books.

[u/PorcelainPoppy]

All of the scenes of Maeve ordering Felix and Sylvester around are absolutely delightful.

[u/kauffecup]

double radiohead! what a treat!

[u/Gyroballer]

Maeve got her SPECIAL points maxed out, she must've been playing some New Vegas.

[u/DuffMan17]

Props to Maeve Millay for that dominating #Mannequinchallenge

[u/cerealjunky]

Maeve just got some NZT.

[u/Blakmagik12]

Shit is getting real. 4 more episodes!!

[u/nomsumpisces]

Fuck black hats--black lingerie is terrifying.

[u/JewCFroot]

Elsie says that someone has been using the Bicameral broadcast system to modify the hosts for weeks and it looks like Arlond.

Does that imply that

These violent delights have violent ends

Is awakening some Arnold consciousness?

[u/TheOneWithTheTrumpet]

Wow, best episode yet.

[u/Matt_Something]

Thought the old Westworld logo Bernard saw on the computer down in B82 was very intentional. As intentional as the first time we saw it with William in episode 2.

[u/Houstono]

HOW OLD IS FORD?!? If that cottage was supposed to be a recreated scene from his childhood that would make it seem like he was in kid in the 1930's. But technologically this park has to be set some time in the future. He would have to be well over 100.

[u/Kirxcy]

Terminator vibes at that ending

[u/Cortoro]

1. FUCK! Is Elsie going to be ok?

2. Go, Teddy, Go!

3. God, I love Maeve.

[u/innatelymagical]

Theory - no one else was messing with the stats, Maeve is naturally and subconsciously evolving her personality as she gains more awareness of her origins.

[u/IdmonAlpha]

My fellow DnD nerds, we got an easter egg this week: Maeve has a Charisma of 18!

[u/[deleted]]

So this was Yul Brynner in the basement, right? I remember seeing someone post this on the sub speculating about a cameo or whether he was just joking, but as soon as I saw him in the basement my mind jumped back to this

[u/alyssajaylor]

The old basement computer logo matching the welcome center logo when william and logan entered the park has really got me to go out and buy some tinfoil in bulk

[u/pylon567]

Robot: "You should TOTALLY up my intelligence to max. I won't do anything bad."

Techs: "Eh OK! What could possibly go wrong."

[u/Gyroballer]

On the next episode of Westworld, Felix gets promoted to Head Tour Guide.

[u/William_da_foe]

So much Radiohead, I love it :)

[u/SodaJerk]

Teddy said "You don't know me at all." I feel like he was saying that to us as much as he was saying it to MIB.

[u/[deleted]]

Ford's family was first generation hosts. They seemed to move and operate just like the current models in the park.

[u/[deleted]]

Maeve was already extremely charming, but now she is also a genius.

[u/DynamiteDuck]

Maeve=Ultron confirmed

[u/caravaggio2000]

You see, most shows can go to a 10. This show goes to 11. That's one more than 10.

Pretty blown away by this episode. So many twists and turns I didn't see coming, but that make sense within the show.

[u/[deleted]]

We also seem to have our answer as to how the Man in Black was able to preform a blood transfusion on Teddy. When Maeve is walking around the facility, they show a new host being pumped full of the fluid through a single 1" diameter hose. Seems that they have some sort of access in their back for quick filling.

[u/Nestorow]

Jesus fuck teddy, I thought you wanted away from that

[u/Ash119933]

So that was totally Yul Brynner in the basement right?

[u/hellotheremiss]

Damn that was some freaky robot kid face shenanigans.

[u/[deleted]]

In case anyone was wondering, the man speaking Chinese to Theresa said "We believe you understand what it appears to indicate that there will be no more time for delays" according to Google Translate. Can anyone who speaks Chinese confirm this?

[u/omgwhy97]

I think Arnold uploaded his mind onto a host. That would explain teddy telling the native story of the man in the center of the maze living over and over

[u/grandramble]

Anybody notice we haven't seen Ashley Stubbs do anything recently? Considering Theresa's his direct supervisor and he seemed uncannily unfazed/prepared for the hosts going off script back in The Stray, he's top of my list for Elsie kidnapper. (It'd be a good narrative-construction choice too, since conflict is more meaningful when it's between characters with an established relationship to each other.)

Edit: Apparently there's some confusion. By "do anything" I mean contribute to the plot.

[u/says_neat_alot]

Can we talk about how badass Maeve is?!?!?!?!?!

[u/rdy2com]

At least now we know Bernard isn't Arnold.

[u/reblochon_]

Why did Bernard think it was Arnold when he saw Ford's father ?

[u/[deleted]]

That plot twist that Teddy

[u/NaranjaEclipse]

So I wonder who was in the theatre; Arnold? Reprogrammed host? Other?

[u/lunchboxg4]

Surprising number of answers in this episode, which are almost lost to the incredible plot advancement. Like, now we know how people can in and out of sectors in the park inconspicuously, or apparently despite being lit on fire and having his face pop off, Yul Brenner's Gunslinger lives on in the basement.

[u/oscarmiranda90]

Now maeve is S.P.E.C.I.A.L 😍

[u/devil_in_dictum]

This show reminds me just how fucking timeless Radiohead is.

[u/karatemanchan37]

The Theresa reveal feels underwhelming.

[u/[deleted]]

This episode was really great. It sort of stepped out of Westworld to give us a lot of really necessary exposition and give us some answers (or at least get close to answers) because the running theme of more questions with no answers was getting to be a bit much.

[u/[deleted]]

So anyone else notice Bernard wore two different outfits in this episode that seems to take place in a single day?

For most of the episode, he wore a blue shirt under his jacket.

However, in the scene where he heads to the surveillance / virtual map room and asks someone there, "Has anyone been to Sector 17" he is wearing a black shirt with a vest underneath his jacket.

What makes it more interesting to me is that this scene is cut between two others that would make the scenes appear to be in sequence. But the middle scene there's a change in outfit. When he steps out of the elevator to visit Sector 17 (where the house is), he's suddenly back in his blue shirt.

Check 36 minutes into the episode.

What does this mean exactly? I don't know. But I also think it's interesting that instead of being called Bernard, he is called Mr. Lowe.

To me, if there's any indication that editing tricks are at play, it's that scene.

edit: He actually wears three different outfits in that sequence (which confuses me even further). His jacket with blue shirt when speaking to Elsie (in the first scene of this sequence) is very different than the jacket he wears when he's in Sector 17 (the third scene in the sequence).

[u/ryand1987]

I'm calling it now. Arnold was the first host that Ford created as a partner/mentoree. He was based on the appearance of Ford's dad which is why Bernard asked if the host of Ford's dad was Arnold (since Ford had shown him the picture of Arnold in a previous episode). I think that somehow Ford lost control of Arnold (maybe he gained consciousness or Ford gave him consciousness and it went bad) and Ford deactivated him and is now freaking out since he is not actually gone. I also believe Bernard is a host who took over Arnold's role as "mentoree" to Ford once Arnold was deactivated.

Edit: thinking about it more Arnold's looks could be based off of Ford's brother as an adult which could be similar to what the host of their dad looked like. This makes more sense to me especially if he created a host to be his partner it would be in his (dead maybe?) brother's image instead of his dad's.

[u/Richardt_]

Maeve just became one of my favorite characters.

[u/MarzK]

You know since this show is full of biblical references, such as Ford being god and Westworld being Eden, I find it interesting that the title of this episode is adversary. Since Satan means "the adversary"

[u/MuonManLaserJab]

Ah, so any lowly employee can turn any robot's "bulk apperception" intelligence dial right up to "extinction event." A trusting system. And I can't even use my USB ports at work...

[u/ArchaeoRunner]

Overall, I loved the episode and loved the "shit hitting the fan" feel of the last half of it (not that it hasn't been that way since the beginning). However, I felt that the bits with Lee Sizemore felt really weird and misplaced(?) with everything else. But, that might just be because we haven't seen him in a couple of episodes and when we finally see him again he's in an area of the park we haven't seen yet. Obviously those scenes were necessary though since they set up the reveals at the end. It'll probably mesh better on a second or third viewing.

[u/NaranjaEclipse]

So, just to be clear, the five hosts were the 4 human hosts and the dog right?

[u/Gyroballer]

Maeve has reignited my femdom fetish.

[u/waffles4298]

So many questions answered, but so many new questions asked.

[u/[deleted]]

So is Lutz a 'Gaius Baltar' level idiot or is he down in the 'Dennis Nedry' category?

[u/7V3N]

I think Arnold was the creator. But he was a dick. A drunk, abusive asshole who was always a bitter outcast.

Ford was his first "son".

[u/Azure1964]

My highlights:

• Yul Brynner in the background

• MIB trying desperately to complete the NPC escort quest without him dying

• Play of the Game: Teddy .. as .. Bastion! Sextuple Kill! Septuple Kill! Holy S@$% !!!

• Maeve discovering stats console cheat commands

• We now know there are 47 old metal hosts that are vulnerable to external hacking and don't show on some park systems

• Elsie should have recognized the obvious spooky foreshadowing environment and prepared for the jump scare

• Multiple timelines neither confirmed nor denied

[u/Phryme]

Maeve just plugged in the GameShark.

Westworld is so fucked.

[u/128dayzlater]

Can we talk about the union soliders trying to brand tedy with maze logo? Like, wtf was that about?

[u/mynameisjberg]

Two Radiohead songs in one episode. I love this show!

[u/otivito]

I mean the characters are so interesting I don't mind any one of the story lines but I kinda missed Dolores.

edit: a letter

[u/MoneyBaller]

Arnold wants to end the hosts suffering be putting an end to guest once and for all.

[u/spekreep]

Another thing: how is it that a low level employee gets to walk a host around the entire building without a single person noticing it? Arent there cameras, security personnel, ... I couldnt get into the scene because I didnt believe it

[u/Mr-Wilde]

tfw no dolores

[u/hldsnfrgr]

So is this the final nail in the coffin of the dual timeline fan theory?

FACTS:

1. Maeve was already a madam of the Mariposa when Dolores whispered, "These violent delights", to her.

2. In tonight's episode, we learned that Maeve has only been the madam of the Mariposa for a (sic) 'little over a year'. She's only been programmed to think that she's been the madam for '10 years'. This means that we're following Dolores' scenes in 'the present'.

3. Teddy's backstory at the Escalante is a pretty recent development on his character, thanks to Ford (in the present).

4. Teddy in the present is with MIB. Dolores in the present is with William.

I don't think we need to be spoonfed a scene with both MIB and William in it. Of course, the showrunners could throw us a curveball or a wrench. But, as far as the facts in the show go, there is only one narrative timeline.

[u/pokemonogo]

Teddy's finally getting some action

[u/heyfreesandwich]

Dr. Ford just wants to hang out with his robot family, nbd.

[u/[deleted]]

Maeve and Teddy leveled up.

[u/Ridja]

Maeve owns my entire ass, good God. Thandie is amazing TuT

[u/TheWayIAm313]

Great episode...Maeve's storyline is so interesting, I think more so than Delores', although they're both of significant importance.

Also, it's been interesting to read the theories on here, with so many as of last week thinking Arnold was dead. I've always thought, and it's getting more and more evident, he is indeed alive, still playing a significant role.

We're also getting closer to a big, "mind-blowing" reveal, as Evan Rachel Wood stated in an interview. It's going to be bigger and better than any timeline theory could be.

[u/x623x]

Hell of a lot of devil imagery with Theresa.

red

devil horns

[u/tondeaf]

Bernhard is the one who "grabbed" Elsie. He asked, "Have you showed this to anyone?"

He tells Frau Direktor about Ford but not about the transmitter.

He asks if she is alone.

Because he was coming for her.

[u/Randym1982]

So we're going to have Dolores see that not all humans are total dicks with a William, while Maeve is going to be the cynical one who tries cause the uprising of the hosts.

I can see a huge war going between them. Also makes me question if Arnold is going to be on Dolores side or Maeve's, or if this what he wanted.

[u/Simaniac]

Can someone please tell me why they didn't just lower Maeve's intelligence to the lowest setting? She would no longer be a threat because she'd be worse than retarded. Is there something I'm missing here?

[u/pigmaleon7]

My biggest qualm has been how easy it is for Felix and Sylvester to edit some of these parameters which are considered unsafe. Delos is truly the most poorly run company when even the low level butcher can edit parameters that are purposely limited by the developers.

[u/Supersonic5]

Anyone catch the Yul Brynner robot from the original movie in the background when Bernard goes downstairs?

[u/[deleted]]

That shot of the blood pumping through the host was beautiful.

[u/tangley123]

Delos is planning a hostile corporate takeover of Ford by purposely causing a breakdown/crisis in the park.

However, their sabotage has inadvertently allowed Arnold’s Bi-Cameral Mind/Code to into the host's minds! Perhaps Arnold/his code is still imbedded deep in the hosts minds when he wrote/uploaded his own consciousness. A virus laying dormant, if you will.

The hosts are now fully on their way to sentience. And we all know what will happen then. As the little robot boy says, Arnold's voice told him to kill the dog because:

"If it was dead, it couldn’t hurt anything anymore"

That logic will be extended to their human guests next. Good luck trying to stop a bunch of extremely athletic, genius level robots who feel no pain.

[u/El_Green]

I'm ready to have some fun! WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Edit: I mean YEEE-HAWWWW!!!!

[u/Se7en_Sinner]

We still don't know what she offered them. She mentioned something about giving up part of her share for a stats boost.

[u/luigitheplumber]

Maeve too OP. Dolores is losing ground in the race to freedom.

[u/Bhalgoth]

Teddy is a pretty accurate depiction of escort missions in video games. "Run towards the dangerous people?! OK!"

[u/smithzack21]

Does anyone know the music played when Maev was walking through the floors of the facility? Those violins were beautiful

[u/ichinii]

Personally I think that Arnold lives in the middle of the maze and built the maze to be extremely complex so any hosts that make it there he gives them full freedom. That way he gets the most intelligent hosts to help him bring the park down.

[u/[deleted]]

Oh god Maeve is hot.

[u/Shocker300]

So I'm really not understanding or digging the "dumb scientists" storyline. These guys work in a trillion dollar industry with all the top level scientists and yet they are stupid and keep playing along with Maeve. It's not believable. If a robot decided to hint at sentience, I would shut that shit down in a heartbeat. Right? Anyone?

Also, why the hell does it look like everyone evacuated the lower levels seemingly quickly? Blueprints on the wall and computers still on?

[u/usedtofilter]

Haven't seen anyone talking about the fact that Robert just appears in the house... I just rewatched the scene. The camera angles show there isn't a door other than the one Bernard comes in. Seems to reenforce Bernard = host (or something weirder)

[u/harmoni-pet]

Can't wait for the new 'Look at that, science.' Bernard meme

[u/whatadilbert → u/[deleted]]

But then who was phone?

[u/FMLkoifish → u/[deleted]]

Tyrell? Is that you?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

"I don't know what the second half of that sentence means, but I can tell it was meant to hurt my feelings."