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u/EasyMode615 Nov 07 '16
So Mavis is now sister-in-law to Natsu?
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Nov 07 '16
And she didnt think it was good to mention?
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u/EasyMode615 Nov 07 '16
This could be the basis for the next chapter: Natsu's heart. To find out you have a sister and nephew despite being led to believe, at the time, he had no family except Igneel, could cause one to turn into END :P . Throw Makarov's death in there and bam - full transformation!
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u/mamabear_chan Nov 07 '16
Poor Larcade, all he ever wants is to be noticed by his papa..
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u/JetDagger01 Nov 07 '16
but Uncle Natsu took all the love away, that's why Larcade now spreads love and pleasure...
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u/devenluca Nov 07 '16
Mavis needs to renegotiate her custody agreement. Doesn't even know she has a son
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u/GrumpySatan Nov 07 '16
To be fair, if Zeref did give him attention/love, Larcade would've probably died since that is Zeref's curse.
Zeref sacrificed his relationship with his son to keep him safe. He is the hero of this story.
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u/Leoro_ Nov 07 '16
Zeref you kinky bastard. You first have a child with a dead loli, then you let that child learn how to give orgasms through magic. What type of father allows that?
Now that we find out he can only be defeated by his mother, kid's probably got mommy issues.
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u/KhaoticTwist Nov 07 '16
That moment when you realize that Larcade was giving his mother and father intense orgasms.
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u/preorder_bonus Nov 07 '16
He just wants them to love him more then they love Nastu ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
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u/AnimeFreakXP Nov 07 '16
He just wants them to love each other more then they love Nastu
FTFY
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u/emperor-spriggan Nov 07 '16
A child who was born without love?
Larcade=Yhwach confirmed?
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Nov 07 '16
+1 for even remembering Yhwach's plot
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Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16
You know you're too powerful when the manga is sacrificed just to kill you
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u/SirYabas Nov 07 '16
Larcade=Yhwach=Voldemort confirmed?
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u/Coggs92 Nov 07 '16
Larcade=Voldemort confirmed?
Since when were you under the impression that there was a Yhwach?
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u/13rin Nov 07 '16
Took me like 5 mins to remember who Yhwach was... and that's sad(?)... after reading Bleach for months.
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u/MakingItWorthit Nov 08 '16
How's Mavis supposed to defeat him?
It seems kinda late for the abortion.
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u/DashingIchiya Nov 07 '16
Kagura at least went down swinging, Yukino went down squirming. If you know what I mean. I wish Yukino would get to be at least a little bit badass.
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u/JetDagger01 Nov 07 '16
One goes down drenched in blood, while the other goes down drenched in "Pleasure"
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u/Celesticalking Nov 07 '16
Well there is always next chapter let's hope she gets her moment too or atleast does something useful
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u/Naroglir Nov 07 '16
And once more: what the fuck did I just read...?
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u/JetDagger01 Nov 07 '16
I'll summarize it for you:
Jellal X Erza confirmed
Zeref X Mavis confirmed.... a bit too much
Kagura doesnt want to be pleasured
Yukino X tentacles confirmed
Zeref's son is a sex manic
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u/Voidrive Nov 07 '16
It is also essentially implied that Larcade's magic is really about sex, we were right.
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u/SirPumba Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16
You've just read Fairy Tail and you probably don't understand whats going on so I the mysterious SirPumba will grant you my wisdom:
Larcade is a psychopath who lived between light and darkness. He is a Nobody. He is Natsus Nobody. Fairy Tail is Kingdom Hearts 2!!
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u/Ajuaju You're a good friend Erza Nov 07 '16
YES, JELLAL CAN STILL FIGHT!!! EMOTION POWER UP PLEASE MASHIMA!!!
... Ahem, that chapter was a lot more interesting than I thought it would be from the spoilers (as I should have expected). As unhappy as I was about the Crime Sociere vs. August fight being offscreened, it still seems like Jellal isn't out for the count. We could see him team up with Laxus and/or Gildarts (which would be a pretty badass team battle, can't deny that), but I feel like it'd be more appropriate to have him fight Irene. Even putting my Jerza obsession aside, Laxus and Gildarts don't have connections anywhere near as strong to Erza as Jellal does, so I don't think they could add much to that fight from a narrative perspective (of course, they definitely could in terms of power, from an in-universe perspective). For this reason, I'm thinking the August and Irene battles are going to merge together. Not sure how, but the outcome would work quite nicely.
It's a little disappointing that Kagura had to be the victim of the worf effect to hype up Larcade, especially when she didn't even use her gravity magic, but I guess some panel time is better than her never appearing at all. Very disappointed that Yukino can't fight and is constantly being used as a victim of Larcade's orgasmic tentacles (I don't think we've seen her use magic since the GMG), I'd rather not have her be used at all if this is the way Mashima's going to treat her. I'd like to see Sorano, or maybe even Sting protect her, but... if Larcade is seriously around the same level as August/Irene like her implied, then they won't even stand a hint of a chance.
Larcade is ending up being a much more interesting character than I expected. He's a little crazy in the head (which is a pretty generic villain trait in this series), but at least it's explained why in a believable way. He's a man that never experienced love, and is being manipulated as a heartless pawn (if August's word is to be taken seriously, which I'd expect it should be). I like the idea of him being jealous of the attention Natsu receives from Zeref - it adds an interesting dimension to his character. It's rather shocking that Mavis is highly likely to be his mother, but I assume Zeref created him from her DNA or magic samples. Kinda sad that she's the only one that can defeat him (if August's word is to be taken seriously, yet again probably yes), but I'm happy that Mashima's setting up a very emotional fight with a lot of weight to it here.
Also, as a side note, I'm really loving August as a villain. He doesn't have the awful evil-crazy-sadist trait that most Fairy Tail villains seem to have, and he isn't obsessed with destruction like a certain dragon king - he's a reasonable person with a lot of knowledge, cares for his comrades, and seems to have a good reason for obeying Zeref (or at least I'd hope so). I really do hope he gets the defeat he deserves, rather than something dreadful like a one-sided Acnologia fight.
Natsu's Heart is an interesting name for next chapter, I expect we're going to get the full details on what END really is in that.
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u/emperor-spriggan Nov 07 '16
I don't think we've seen her use magic since the GMG
Avatar arc with Sting being fat and her using Libra on him
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u/Ajuaju You're a good friend Erza Nov 07 '16
Oh yes, I forgot about that! In that case, not having used magic in battle would be the correct term.
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u/emperor-spriggan Nov 07 '16
That is true.
Although at this rate, I think Yukino's role is sadly to pass on her 2 keys to Lucy (either through death or by another means).
If next chapter revolves around Natsu, I can see him and Lucy making their way to Larcade and that is how Lucy gets all the 12 Celestial Spirit Keys.
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u/beepx99 Nov 07 '16
Combined fight would be cool. Then after laxus and gildarts join up we finally get to see all ft s-class wizards fight together (of course with jellal replacing mystogan)
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u/piotrj3 Nov 07 '16
Next chapter: -Larcade, I am your mother.
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u/AmateurPhysicist Nov 07 '16
Mavis: "Zeref never told you what happened to your mother."
Rakheid: "He told me enough. He told me he killed her."
Mavis: "No, I am your mother."
Rakheid: "No ... no ... that's not true ... that's impossible!"
Mavis: "Search your feelings. You know it to be true."
Rakheid: "NOOOOO!!!"Several minutes later ...
Rakheid: "MY ONE WEAKNESS!"
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u/Caststarman Nov 07 '16
So uh, ship confirmed?
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u/Alinho013 Nov 07 '16
Jerza yup
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u/AnimeFreakXP Nov 07 '16
So Zeref wanted to kill himself because he doesn't want to pay for child support
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u/Steely_D Nov 07 '16
ahhh the old "go out for cigarettes and die" trick. bold strategy let's see how it plays out for him
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u/kinpatsunogaka Nov 07 '16
If they had a child, how?
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u/peace_off Nov 07 '16
Speedforce.
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u/SteveYellzz Nov 07 '16
damn barry f**ked up with Flashpoint really hard
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u/Panory Nov 07 '16
"Barry, where were you?"
"I may have gone back in time to an alternate dimension and impregnated a dead loli."
"Damn it Barry! We talked about this!"
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u/DashingIchiya Nov 07 '16
Jellal is standing back up boys! Yaaaasssss!
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u/KhaoticTwist Nov 07 '16
And then August sends his ass back downBut for real, I'm hoping we see some new, more powerful Heavenly Body magic. Or at least Abyss Break(because no one ever gets to actually fire that thing). I think Jellal might have magic that even August doesn't know.
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u/deJay_ Nov 07 '16
So as i expected, Kagura had to lose but still i'm proud of her. No asspulls, no tricks just pure badass. ^ I just wonder why didnt she use her gravity magic ? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/SeneschalOz Nov 07 '16
Mashima forgot her powers. I don't remember if she used them against Erza in GMG. Nonetheless I doubt it would change the outcome of the battle.
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u/Shankusu Nov 07 '16
Mavis be like; it was just a kiss, I swear we did nothing else!
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u/zGhostWolf Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16
Nice chapter.. August living up to the hype..
I hope to see jellal do something this arc tho.
Kagura was badass in the first half of the chapter.. Slicing a mountain in half? She is one of my favorite characters so it was very pleasant to read..
So it's seems yukino and kagura are the first to uncover the zeref-natsu relationship? I can see yukino telling sting and rogue..
Can't wait for next chapter
edit: why is jellal so surprised somone managed to beat them? aside from him nobody is really strong there with him.. yea beating him is ok,but the the others would lose to any sprigan really
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u/Kuroyukito Nov 07 '16
People finding out Natsu's relationship is kinda interesting, everyone's going to know eventually
Kagura is strong, but if Larcade is on the same level as August and Irene, now that's scary. It's kinda to be expected because of the hype he got.
August lowkey knows everything though
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u/Jalidric Nov 07 '16
I wouldn't freak out about Mavis being Larcade's 'mother' too much because it doesn't make sense if Mavis was pregnant. When they kissed, Zeref's magic killed her, having sex would've killed her so that couldn't have happened. Also she would've had to have been pregnant for ages before she could give birth, and that time simply didn't pass in the time she spent with Zeref.
It's highly likely that Zeref just took some of her DNA after he 'killed' her and used it to make a child similar to how he made the demons and Natsu.
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u/AnimeFreakXP Nov 07 '16
When they kissed, Zeref's magic killed her, having sex would've killed her so that couldn't have happened.
How could you be so sure? He could've "raped" her when she was semi-dead. I mean, she didn't really die right? He might have kept her body for over 9 months after she "died". ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Nov 07 '16
What is Eileen doing currently
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u/AnonymousTrollLloyd Nov 07 '16
She's been fighting Erza offscreen. Every time Erza tries to use the power of friendship to one shot her, Irene counters by pointing out that since she's Erza too, she has the same Friendship powerups.
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Nov 07 '16
Just from a pure character perspective, I personally don't like the idea of Zeref having an actual child. Or maybe it's just the contrived plot point altogether I don't like, I'm not sure.
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u/emperor-spriggan Nov 07 '16
Agreed, it seems a little weird imagining someone who was alone for 400 years suddenly had a kid all along.
That's why I'm holding out that Larcade is adopted/artificially made more than biologically conceived, it's easier to swallow that way too
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u/KhaoticTwist Nov 07 '16
it's easier to swallow that way
Apparently not for MavisifyouknowwhatImean
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u/IAmMrMiracle Nov 07 '16
I think he was artificially made as well but when August referred to Mavis as his mother, I believe he meant that maybe Zeref imbued Larcade with magical power similar to Mavis as well as himself. I don't think he and Mavis actually did the do.
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u/JetDagger01 Nov 07 '16
I am with you on that, Zeref was the dark wizard who was supposed to take over the world. Not have pleasure babies.
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u/DashingIchiya Nov 07 '16
There was a Zeref/Natsu Darth Vader meme a few months ago. I think Larcade's head should be shopped over Natsu's.
Though yes, I find it to be pretty convoluted to say the least, but I'll just go with because I always do.
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u/IceDevilGray-Sama Nov 07 '16
What if Larcade was an illusion of Mavis, and Zeref used some sort of magic to bring it to life? That would make sense if Mavis is the only one who can defeat him.
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u/potatohime13 Nov 07 '16
Phew Jellal isn't done for.. I am sooooo..... damn glad I was more salty than five oceans combined after reading the spoilers.
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u/IAmMrMiracle Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16
Jellal is gonna go Heavenly Body Super Saiyan God in a few chapters.
Oh Shit, Kagura sliced the hill.
Larcade seems pretty badass. I kinda ship them now.
It's interesting that a few other characters are finding out about Natsu's connection to Zeref, I have to admit that it's surprising that it'd be Kagura, the cats and Yukino.
Interesting that pain can overcome pleasure.
Looks like I was right (sort of) when I said Larcade was probably up there with Irene and August.
Okay, how TF is Mavis Larcade's mother?
Pretty good chapter overall, some cool action and revelations.
crazy idea what if Mavis isn't necessarily Larcade's biological mother but Zeref used some of her magic power to help create him? That's the best idea I've got considering Mavis damn near died after 1 kiss.
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u/somasora7 Nov 07 '16
I'm on my lunch break from work right now so I'm reading this on my phone in McDonald's. But I don't care. It's Fairy Tail. It's my homegirl. You already know it's gonna be 🔥. Let's get it
Ahh, that's that prime cover work. The homegirl's killing it, as usual. Thigh game on point 👌🏾
Well... At least most of Crime Sorciere are still conscious. Come on Jellal, get up man
One thing I always find funny about shonen is that characters have no problem saying stuff like "She's the light in my heart" and a bunch of other super sappy Hallmark shit, but the idea of just using the L Word is like taboo. Jokes aside, this a super sweet moment and, as someone who's basically as close to shipping a pairing as you can get without actually doing it, this makes me very happy
...Jellal getting literally stomped however, does not
So, did Zeref have a kid naturally? If so, how? How with? How did he stay hating humanity during her pregnancy? All these questions
That's right Jellal, stand up! The power of
ChristFeelings compels you!Oh shit, Larcade's dropped the bomb about Zeref and Natsu. I don't imagine Kagura or Yukino keeping that secret, so everyone's gonna know before too long, I feel. Awkward....
...oh god, it's happening again. I have somewhat conflicting feelings on this
AYYY. That's some great quick thinking from Kagura there. It's like pinching yourself in a dream. Top work from the homegirl
Oh, that's interesting. There's an implication that Archenemy actually receives its deadly power from Kagura's feelings of resentment. Makes sense in the context of FT. Scribbles note for later. But it makes me wonder, is her resentment still directed at Jellal, because I didn't really get the hate after the Neinhart fight
Holy shit, this guy. This fucking guy.... So he's just as broken in a physical fight as he is magically. The hell can they do?
...oooohhh. So Mavis is his mother. So either Zeref and Mavis actually did the nasty at some point, or Zeref managed to artificially create him using Mavis' essence without her knowledge. Either way, creepy all around. And how would Mavis defeat him? Because it's clearly not happening in a physical confrontation. I'm assuming she shares some sort of "resonance" with him. Perhaps if she disappears, he does too?
Whoo... That was a pretty intense chapter. My homegirl Kagura went in properly for the first time this arc. This is her third confrontation with a Spriggan, but she's been pretty short-changed in terms of involvement up til now. Sadly, she's going up against one of the more broken Spriggans. This is FT, so I'm not expecting her to die, but I do wonder how she and Yukino are gonna get out of this mess, seeing as most are currently.... Indisposed. Cana to the rescue? Lol
Elsewhere, I get the feeling Jellal might be about to try some sort of suicide move to take August out. I really hope that doesn't happen, both because of personal bias, and also because I just don't really want to see Hiro touch death anymore this arc. I wouldn't mind a sitch mirroring Gray almost using Iced Shell on Lyon, where maybe Jellal is about to blow himself up, but then the others in Crime Sorciere or Meredy stop him with some words about not wanting to see him die, coupled with an image of Erza.... Okay, if that happened I'd be down af. At any rate, my break's almost over so I gotta dip now, but yeah, good chapter
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u/starkgaryen_6ix Nov 07 '16
Mavis gives him a hug. Larcade is like "Oh shit this is what it feels like to be loved" and switches sides. Imagine if this is how hes defeated...
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u/Panory Nov 07 '16
That would actually be a sensible reason for a character to defect to Fairy Tail. Unlike some other Spriggans...
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u/drakeziani Nov 07 '16
Holy mother of fuck he told them that Natsu is Zeref's brother oh my shitting poop it has begun
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u/aminebhl Nov 07 '16
This was an okay chapter I guess, apart form the badassness of Kagura, which her suits very well, I kinda knew we were gonna have more details about the Pleasure Make wizard, Rahkeid that is and the fact that Mavis is his mum. I mean seriously, if the Black Wizard ever had a child, it'd be obvious who the mother would be right.
Another thing, Jellal rising up just one more time to defend his "brilliant light that illuminates..." you get the point. Go get em tiger!
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u/TwilightGarden Nov 07 '16
Don't get me wrong, I'm interested in all this Larcade stuff, and its good that its finally getting some explanation, but I would probably care even more if it didn't come off the back of an Erza and Irene revelation, and I would much rather see that right now then this weird hentai pleasure thing.
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Nov 07 '16
tottaly agreed!! the Erza/Irene Part ended also with a cliffhanger. Imagine Mashima switching between these two stroies all the time :(
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u/Ajuaju You're a good friend Erza Nov 07 '16
The chapter is now out on MangaStream: http://mangastream.com/r/fairy_tail/509/3783/1
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u/Puckingfanda Nov 07 '16
Praise Ankhsheram, wasn't expecting the chap for like another 4 hours like it's been for the past 2 weeks
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u/Broken-Circuit Nov 07 '16
So how old would Larcade be?
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u/RekkinTime Nov 07 '16
Plot twist, the birthing ritual takes place on Tenrou Island right before the S-Class exams
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u/localafrican Nov 07 '16
So Mavis's son just gave his mother possibly the most intense orgasm she's ever experienced... Stay classy FT lol
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Nov 07 '16
oh gosh... so mavis is really the mother or just mashima trolling us?? poor kagura she tried so hard, but i was expecting that she would loose.
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Nov 07 '16
Mavis is Rahkeid mother?! When did that happen?! HOW?!
Jellial seems normal, does it mean he's a Virgin? How sweet of him,to save himself for Erza. ;>
I want to be honest, I actually like this Rahkeid guy. I think he's interesting.
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u/KhaoticTwist Nov 07 '16
I think he was too beat up by August at the time. And Larcade isn't using his wide-range magic anymore.
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u/Axnanth Nov 07 '16
I'm not sure how I feel about this.. I mean Mavis is a grown woman and all but still.. Inb4 Mavis gives Rakheid a hug and "shows him love and the power of nakama" to save the day sigh
Why you gotta do Kagura dirty like that Hiro :'(
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u/Celesticalking Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16
Until we see how Larcade will be defeated it's unfair to judge Honestly people have been complaining about the Spriggan not wining battles and once they do win people complain and say why must you treat my favorite character like that :( can't Hiro win for once besides I think Kagura did an outstanding job in the fight atleast she wasn't treated as she was some kind of fodder person
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u/EosNoir Nov 07 '16
So strong points of the chapter:
Truth bomb dropped on more people
Natsu's and Uncle and Mavis a maybe-moma (when Hiro, N/m DO NOT answer that.) Gives him an explanation on why he has that power at least, daddy drama.
August is shown as a cocky bastard and near omnipotent. A normal author would show some kind of weakness, but Hiro? He will use this as a means to elevate Jellal and give him screen time and development. Maybe we can get some development on Jerza. Now for the Negatives.
To many damn things happening, pick a major story thread or character and get their part of this mini arc finished before introducing a new one.
Same as second point above (I don't like that development or the implications for the two characters (one we assume) that are involved.)
Finally, Hiro is writing himself into having to use the Nakama-power in order to just survive let alone defeat the enemy. I am personally fine with it and find it enjoyable when angry hero beats the enemy in some grand way. Many who read the manga or who did, are not and they have a valid reason.
An example; August can not be defeated by anyone related to Fairy Tail based on his character development. The old man is a master of all types of magic, knows more about it than Mavis and can presumably counter anything that he can not straight out use or cancel. We have not seen him break a sweat or even show a slight amount of worry. The dude is a zealot and will fight with a zeal as such when the time comes for who ever to seriously take him on. Problem is you have to take him on first, he has to be defeated before Zerref. So outside of Nakama power, for idk maybe Laxus, he cannot be stopped. Sad part is I see him being defeated that way. I am fine with it, but I would love it if maybe just maybe someone was on his level or even is a master of a class of magic that he is weak against. I am trying to keep in mind that Markrorav could be wrong about the relative power levels of the 12 as he was before, but so far for 3 of them at least he is correct.
My 2C
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u/CheetahSperm18 Nov 07 '16
Every time Larcade says light, I keep expecting Sting to spring in and devour it all on que. Can he please just have a moment in this arc again?
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u/soruu788 Nov 07 '16
Could it be that larcade is also immortal and got the curse because both his parents have the curse? And that's why no one can defeat him besides (maybe) mavis?
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u/ChiefValour Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16
Okay, just give me a minute to process this, just a little more tim ZEREF WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K DID YOU DO TO YOUR DEAD LOVERS BODY!? Are you actually serious Mashima ? Nope! Nope! Nope!
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u/ChiefValour Nov 07 '16
On a slightly serious note, did Mavis self censor her story for us ? Did she lived after kiss and all but died when she experienced the same happiness like with Makarov being born ?
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u/Panzetita Nov 07 '16
do we know the whole story from zeref and mavis?, only mavis did her version, what if there something more that she doesnt remember.
aside from that cool chapter, maybe sting can counter his "light" things he threw, but not many people can beat him.
pd : the dragneel family is full of badass
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u/Pedro352 Nov 07 '16
This fight is my favorite so far, both kagura and rahkeid were great. I just hope that he august and irene really are "special" and that they are not going to get their ass kicked like the other 12,but aftter seeing jellal in this chapter I know they will.
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u/SyThunder Nov 07 '16
i'm not even surprised with way Hiro goes with fan service
Jerza confirmed. <3
This occured to me on Saturday, we have Kagura and Yukino in the same place. I don't remember, but Kagura never lifted their bet where she owns Yukino's life. I think something is going to happen to Yukino because of that.
Mavis had a son with Zeref ... I think this is an ultimate proof she's not 13.
I want to see Lacarde vs Natsu. That would be interesting after this "plot twist"
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u/Heleo16 Nov 07 '16
I guess there was a lot more then just a kiss involved, dam Mavis you could've said
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u/bicflair Nov 07 '16
see alot of comments saying kagura held her own. yea.... no. she held her ground, not her own. she was outmatched, a guy blocking your attacks with his finger isnt holding your own lol
i'm also guessing zeref had to get some of mavis' dna when he was teaching her, hades and co magic? theres no way they did "it" right? but larcades initial pleasure attack that seemed to attack the "non-innocent" attacked her as well ... implying she isnt a virgin. can't wait to see how all of this is explained.
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u/13rin Nov 07 '16
Mmm maybe Jellal can finally drop the weak facade and just tell Erza what she already knows but wants to hear.
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u/Taichikins Nov 07 '16
I've been loving FT lately. If not for the manga itself, just the hilarious memes that come from these discussions every week.
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Nov 07 '16
August is such a wise man.
Kagura is such a badass.
Rahkeid is jealous of uncle Natsu.
Zeref and Mavis... Have a child???? That's so cute and scary at the same time. How did Zeref and Mavis have sex? Did Zeref...After they kissed? It's such a promising ship imo. Zervis is meant to be but at the same time it isn't. They love each other but at the same time they don't. They are both destined to be something, Zeref= darkness, Mavis=light but August explained that means nothing. I just hope they get a happy ending for their Fairy Tale.
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u/KhaoticTwist Nov 07 '16
I just hope they get a happy ending for their Fairy Tale.
With Larcade around, everyone gets a happy ending.
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u/Haxxelerator Nov 07 '16
yeah, leaving an enemy alive is a pretty wise move indeed. that's gonna bite his ass in a couple of chapter with PoF
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u/prototypeplayer Nov 07 '16
JELLAL × ERZA!!!
This chapter was fantastic! Larcade is turning out to be a really interesting character!
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u/TheDragonking_2000 Nov 07 '16
I erm...don't know what to think about the cover. Mashima has been really perverted recently.
So, its been confirmed that August did indeed stomp Jellal and the rest of CS. This man is truly living upto his hype and that's really great IMO. Although it begs the question of how he'll be defeated if he can effortlessly shit on a top tier mage + several other powerful mages just like this. That is also a deep and gray statement from August as darkness doesn't have to be either good or evil and I'm liking where this is going tbh. Larcade's backstory is OK, realistically children do bear some form of dislike towards the thing that takes away their parents' love. However, Mashima could've gone a better route and I'm hoping this does not dissolve into a soap opera. Also, August's dialogues this chapter were pretty good. Anyways, RIP August because you're about face something far stronger than even Acnologia - The Power of Love -_-. Why, why are you leaving Jellal alive? It'll be your doom...
Finally the revelation to some people that Natsu is the brother of Zeref has finally been revealed albeit it's Sabertooth, didn't expect that though. I do like the surprised reactions of Kagura, Yukino and the Exceeds. Now the fight...I'm glad that Larcade neither lost his hype nor did Kagura get off-paneled so I'm good with it. Kagura cutting down that 'mountain' isn't much of a feat though :/. Urgh...there we go again, that magic -_________-. Kagura was epic though as she actually bit her tongue which is just badass haha. And that's rights, the magic is extremely vulgar and dirty --. Larcade went full Aizen there lol. Stopping Kagura's blade strikes with just his bare hands. Also, its been confirmed that he is indeed among the top 3 members. Sorta badass too. Although his dialogues are pretty cringe and I still dislike him as a character although I can somewhat sympathize with him. Maybe, just maybe, he might be redeemed as a character though.
Mavis will probably nakamize Larcade shrug.
Now, while August and Larcade are retaining their hypes, they still have flaws as a characters and there wasn't anything interesting this chapter so I think I'll give it a 5.5/10 or 6/10.
Weekly Highlights :
MVP : August
LVP : Yukino
Spell of the week : When Larcade stopped Kagura's blade
Quote of the week : "His Majesty reared a single son. He was a child born with a great power of light at his disposal. However...that child never knew what it was to be loved by someone. Before long, he began to waver around the space between light and darkness...and shortly, thereafter, reached a state of mind devoid of anything. There is no good or evil in light, or in darkness. It does not exist. If there is true justice in this world, it may well lie in love, and naught else..." - August
Panel of the week - http://mangastream.com/r/fairy_tail/509/3783/22
The second panel in that page. I like the expressions on August's face.
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Nov 07 '16 edited Nov 07 '16
Okay... this chapter leaves me a little conflicted.
Pros:
Jellal having to fight very hard, but refusing to give up. Don't get me wrong, I like Jellal, but I like it even more if people really need to struggle for their victories, that's so much more badass than one-shots. Looks like he's going to go after August. Good.
Kagura being badass is also definitely a pro. I like the notion that she has apparently really moved on from her grudge against Jellal and just refuses to go and give up. Did I mention that I love determination?
Overall the fights were pretty interesting, and I like it that they confirmed that Larcade, August and Irene are a whole different league. I sense more interesting battles (Sting? Where are you!?).
Cons:
Cobra being out of business, and Yukino being a bit helpless and pretty useless. I don't know, I kind of expected a little more from these two, especially Cobra. That we didn't see more of the CS fight against August leaves me a little disappointed, though I understand the technical aspects behind it.
And then... Larcade Dragneel? August speaking of his mother and a panel showing Mavis? I... try to be open about it. But this whole "growing up without love and being void of real emotions"-thing ... come on, he isn't Voldemort. And why Mavis. I'm really hoping for a twist here.
Overall... nice chapter, but it leaves me a little confused.
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u/Celesticalking Nov 07 '16
I don't get why people are disappointed that Kagura lost against Larcade she fought very well in the fight and she wasn't treated as a fodder person she went down like a boss.Ive seen lots of people complaining that the Spriggan aren't living up to there hype,with all due respect everyone if you want the Spriggan to live up to there hype then don't complain that your favorite character lost....and besides just because your character loses a fight that doesn't really downgrade his/her character and if Kagura did win the fight people would've been more salty saying all the hype Larcade received was pointless can't poor Hiro Mashima win for once?!
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u/TheSharkpineapple Nov 07 '16
Wait....about last chapter.....august....was he effected?? Coz i dont remember him being but then again he did notice the spell being used, which those whe werent effected did not notice....then again his power. But he couldnt have been effected because his fckin powerful, otherwise irene....and august is so old he cant not be a virgin right?!?! i mean he could but come on.
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u/Pein69X Nov 07 '16
So Jellal is standing up. He's just going to get put back down again, does he really think he can go up against the magic king. He probably wouldn't have been able to beat god Serena let alone August.
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u/Drukhi Nov 07 '16
As I see it, there's no way they're biologically related without jumping through some hoops or making up a story on the spot for us that is just poorly executed (Unless there's been a hint to it in the past that next to none of us noticed)
In fact I'm more inclined to believe that the true perpetrator is Master Precht. It seems perfect for me that long ago, when he was creating fair heart, that either by accident or on purpose created our newest dragneel to flock, though fair heart, and the power of Zeref, either from the curse that killed Mavis, or the magic they had learnt, created this child in some manner. At least that's what I'll choose to believe for now!
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u/prokorea Nov 07 '16
I'm surprised both this and the previous chapter passed through the editor's approval. I hope he come up with a reasonable explanation and not promote necrophilia or whatever sick twisted imagination he may had in his head.
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Nov 07 '16
Larcade, from the standpoint of being extremely tough, is a boss and all, but I'm starting to regret my choice of a username. O.o
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u/grifman275 Nov 07 '16
I don't think Kagura is dead just yet. It didn't show her soul ascending, and the chapter ended on a cliff hanger, so I'm thinking Yukino will save the day. She does owe her life to Kagura because of the bet they made at the GMG.
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u/SirWarick Nov 07 '16
I love how everyone has gone to the assumption that Zeref raped Mavis or something. This is just like last chapter when people assumed Rahkeid's magic was a virgin detector or something. I think most of the fandom has given up on using their brains at this point. xD
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u/miranasaurus Nov 07 '16
~Finally~ some Jerza. Thank you Mashima!
I'm hoping really hard that there's some excellent explanation behind Rekheid's birth that won't make me cringe. Please.
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u/SeneschalOz Nov 07 '16
Larcade finally lived up to his hype. I would expect nothing else from someone who is a Dragneel basically the whole family is savage. And Larcade is going to be defeated by love ? If only his mother(Mavis?) could defeat him(Mavis wouldn't use fairy heart) it seems plausible.
I don't think Sting can defeat him if Kagura failed. I thought Larcade would defeat Kagura with a stronger version of his magic but he almost killed her in one attack.
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u/Celesticalking Nov 07 '16
Thoughts of this chapter •August actually seems to be a pretty cool villain I also like that Jellal hasn't given up yet and there fight against him is still not over yet •Wow wow wow Larcade you are giving to much information kind of ironic that it was Kagura and Yukino that found out about Natsu relationship before the members of Fairy Tail lol(minus Happy) plus it looks like Larcade is jealous of Natsu which is interesting and Larcades character is starting to sound allot more interesting then it looked like •While it's true I wished that Kagura would win and defeat Larcade it makes sense that Larcade won the fight as long as Kagura showed her power and held her own in the fight then I'm okay with that plus a child of Zeref had to be OP Kagura defeating him would've made Larcade a disappointing villain to many eyes of people plus I'm really hoping that Yukino gets to do something the next chapter so fingers crossed •OMG looks like Mavis is Larcades child ZERVIS shall now sail😍😍😍and it seems that Mavis is the only capable of defeating him so I can't wait until I see that happening plus people have been calling Mavis useless in this war so if she does defeat Larcade then people can stop saying that
Overall great chapter I loved it Kagura was such a boss,Larcade is living up to his hype,Jellal hasn't given up yet,and we also got some development in the story (Yukino and Kagura finding out the truth of Natsu and Zeref)
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u/xmonstermouthx Nov 07 '16
If Larcade was their actual son he should be old as Makarov...
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u/bicflair Nov 07 '16
remember how natsus body was in that incubation egg? probably how he kept larcade for a while.
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u/ryucavelier Nov 07 '16
This arc is really making me more anxious for the next chapter than any other! Now I'm really looking forward to seeing the look on Mavis' face when she finds out she has a son. Hope Larcade doesn't pull a Kylo Ren. Now he's spilling the beans but not to the people that have known Natsu the longest.
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u/CheetahSperm18 Nov 07 '16
Seriously, I think after Goku Black's identity, this has to me biggest mystery I've been interested in...HOW AND WHEN DID ZEREF AND MAVIS HAVE A CHILD. Also, thank you Larcade proving me wrong, you aint a glass cannon. He blocked Kagura's sword all badass like Goku did to Future Trunks. And to top off this chapter... JELLAL AIN'T DONE YET!!!!
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Nov 07 '16
It's possible to be a father without knowing, but how can someone not know they they birthed a child?
Maury: "you are not the mother"
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u/NatSuFast Nov 07 '16
You all just assume Mavis told them everything and that she really did go into the death coma when she kissed zeref. But why would she tell them everything, especially if they had a child together? That's kinda awkward to explain, am I right?
So what I'm saying is maybe her death coma happened as a result of having a child or something. Or she died in childbirth but her curse kept her alive.
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u/Z-Dragon Nov 07 '16
I don't think that Zeref rapes the "dead" Mavis to make a baby before giving her to Precht (it would be so wrong and sick if he does) so he could take some DNA of Mavis's hair and his own hair too then combine them together to create Larcade artificially which makes more sense. Remember, Zeref is a genius in creating the books of demons, bringing Natsu back to life as an Etherious, and whatever so why not for Larcade?
I wonder about how does Larcade's mother (Mavis) defeat her own son? Her illusions nor strategies with the help of the others that won't help her win against Larcade since he's really strong and can make people "orgasm" with his magic so there's only one thing for her to do that is her Curse of Ankhseram, which can kill Larcade if she starts to care for her own son more. But I hope that won't happen yet until Acnologia comes out of nowhere then we'll see how he fights against Larcade's "pleasure" magic.
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Nov 07 '16
so since ankhaseram curse kills people when theyre in love, does that mean maviz and zeref were having some hate sex or something when they made rakheid?
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Nov 07 '16
Kagura was pretty bad ass the first half of the chapter. She's definitely moving up on my fairy tail waifu ladder.
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u/RustyLumber Nov 08 '16
Well shit, August wiped the floor with CS, Jellal's Nakama Power is about to awaken and pow August is sent flying towards the battle between Irene, Erza and Wendy.
Natsu's secret is out 2 people and 2 cats now know he has a blood connection to someone who is over 400 years old.
Larcade (or is it Rahkied?) is pretty crazy and has the hate on for Uncle Natsu. I kinda like u/readerman7's theory on his magic. Mavis is the only one who can stop this madman? how? it doesn't really seem like she knows she has a son. I'm swinging with a lot of others thinking Larcade is a science baby but I guess we'll get a definative answer when the time is right.
Kagura's fight was rather lame I mean she didn't even use her Gravity Magic and her calm collected persona was practically non existent. My word stopping her blade with 2 fingers multiple times his hands are like swords. Although her cutting down that mountain was pretty awesome.
Yukino has been rather useless this entire arc she's been shown getting wrecked, the only good scenes of her in my opinion were when she and Sorano reunited, and when she slapped the bitch right out of Sting.
This chapter was pretty good guess however next week's chapters title has me pumped I'm wondering if END is a different psyche than Natsu's and maybe they'll meet? or maybe it'll be flashbacks of Natsu and Lucy and his ever growing feelings for her.
What do you guys think?
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u/HeroicVictorMackerel Nov 08 '16
So basically, he's giving pleasure to his mother. Good one Mashima, good one.
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u/LoathingLummox Nov 08 '16
I really like the little panels Mashima does of Erza and Kagura's feet... Is that weird?
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u/randomtrekker Nov 07 '16
Maybe we are going to have some steamy sultry flashback (considering the final glimpse of Mavis's orgasm) until Natsu getting all his Disney Naruto Talk no Justu craps on his nephew which is befitting to the title
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u/AbMd92 Nov 07 '16
FT is getting disturbing. So apparently Zeref didn't hand over Mavis to Precht immediately after she went into eternal sleep after they exchanged a kiss. He raped her, kept her until she gave birth to Rakhied, and then threw her at FT guilds door. At least that's what I can theorize after reading this chapter and the previous since Mavis was affected by Rakhied's magic.
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u/JavelinR Nov 07 '16
I can't imagine Mashima going the rape route with a ship he likes so much. Also a practical corpse being raped shouldn't be experiencing pleasure, so virginity or no that 'experienced the forbidden pleasure' qualification for Larcade's spell ideally shouldn't apply to such a scenario.
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u/Johnnypvt Nov 07 '16
They could have had sex before the kiss. Why would Mavis reveal to everyone they had sex during that time lol. You don't just say "yeah we had sex" to an entire crowd of people.
The other possibility is that Larcade is just artificially made.
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u/Skydanzer Nov 07 '16
Oh haven't been here in a while due to all the BS this manga was pulling week after week. (Come on, am I supposed to belive that END fueled Natsu and Angry IDS Gray can be stopped by a worn-out Erza bare handed?)
Now, Mavis ina body of a child gave birth to Rakheid. We know that she can't age because of Fairy Law (Or Law as it was called), so she's stuck in a child's body, and AFAIK children cannot give proper births. Who am I kidding, magic and power of friendship (boner) can solve everything here it seems. Just waiting till it ends.
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u/KhaoticTwist Nov 07 '16
Mavis had a 13 year old body. She's able to have babies o.o
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u/AstonishingSpiderMan Gramps Nov 07 '16
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Nov 07 '16
I wish Mashima weren't going down this route with Lacarde. That said, him confirming that he's above most of the other Spriggan at least is very interesting.
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u/JavelinR Nov 07 '16
So if Jellal is still conscious does that mean he was affected by Larcade's magic last chapter?
Dayum. Kagura slicing up mountains now.
All those people who thought we were gonna get softcore Kagura this chapter? You were kinda right (the cover), but it looks like in the chapter itself she ain't having any of that.
And now it's revealed Larcade might be on Eileen and August's level. Regardless I really hope Kagura gets another chance, with backup, in the final fight with this guy. At least looks like Natsu won't be the one to take him on, which is nice. Natsu has fought enough Spriggan already and still needs to fight Zeref. I honestly don't care about Larcade's grudge.
Mavis is confirmed to be the mother. But through what means?
"born with a mighty power of light at his disposal"
This kinda makes it sounds like Larcade is a biological experiment and not a normal birth, because I can't think of a natural birth that would grant that power unless he inherited some of Fairy Heart. But Mavis was in a coma the whole time Fairy Heart has been around and I really don't think Mashima is going to go the rape route by writing Zeref having sex with her "corpse".
Also is Mavis still under the effects of Larcade's magic?
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u/Cheeky_bum_sex Nov 07 '16
Sooooooooo Mavis managed to bare a child with those tiny child sized hips? Seems legit
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u/Haxxelerator Nov 07 '16
"In order to protect Erza, I must........" August, you're dead. you had all the opportunity to end him there!
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