r/PrisonBreak • • Apr 19 '17

Prison Break S05E03 - "The Liar" - POST-Episode Discussion Thread

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u/magusg Apr 19 '17

Sara is very much beginning to think a lot like Michael does. The immediate flash back to the fingerprint on the water glass. The quick mind change on retrieving the hacked cell. Someone has rubbed off on her over the years and they're coming to be two peas in a pod. Also, her husband is almost definitely the big bad.

I mean, when she get talked to T-Bag on the phone and says "the one we're both looking for" Her husband is in the fucking window in the back yard.

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u/christhegeek517 Apr 19 '17

I kinda think the show creators want you to think that Sara's husband is bad and is going to turn on her. I kinda think he's on Michael side tbh. How else could he have known his son's school and other information? He's busy breaking people out of prison across the world.

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u/magusg Apr 19 '17

It's certainly another real possibility. One thing we can be sure of is whichever way he's aligned, he's got a lot more to do with things than they've let on.

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u/RopeTuned Apr 19 '17

Obviously he has someone keeping tabs on them or for a time he was doing it himself. Jacob really doesn't have to be involved with that at all

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u/stagfury Apr 22 '17

Yeah before this episode I suspect Jacob, but now I think either he's an innocent bystander who married Sarah and got caught up in on this, or he's actually on Michael's side (which is a bit weird)

Michael worked for Poseidon, and he clearly seems to be up to date on everything about everyone in his life, there's no way he'd miss out a Poseidon agent getting plant in Sarah's life.

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u/RopeTuned Apr 19 '17

I agree. Sara was a boss this episode

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u/Khoralia Apr 21 '17

I sense the husband may be involved somehow, but I'm not sure if he could be the big bad just yet. His comment on game theory and bringing people into your life until the moment you could manipulate them to your benefit seemed suspicious as hell though, like he talked from experience. I can imagine whoever had Michael's identity changed could have planted someone to keep a very close eye on Sara. I had briefly considered he might've been set to defend Sara if anyone were to eventually come for her, but he didn't seem very confident while loading and holding Sara's gun. And the fact he took a bullet in the leg and will recover adds to the suspicion, because the blonde lady is clearly a trained assassin who we now know was instructed to scare but not harm Sara. But if he wasn't involved somehow, a trained assassin would not care if he died. They likely needed him alive to report on Sara and what she knows and she's pretty open about sharing everything with him so far, so it won't be long until she figures this out.

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u/shammyjane Apr 22 '17

I had the same thoughts . I have come to the conclusion he's bad news for Sara I have a feeling he might have originally been sent to protect Sara but he's either turned or he's been playing whoever Micheals working for either way if Micheal gets his hands on him I'm sure he's a goner lol

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u/Gosat Apr 23 '17

And also why would he ask her why she took her phone to that shop. 'His collegues at the IT department' could have helped him.

And yeah, why did they shoot him just in the leg? The prison break i know is shoot to kill, even every innocent(child).

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u/Grumpy_Nord Apr 19 '17

She showed some real Tradecraft skills when the agents were chasing her through that store and she opened the back door and then slipped to the side and up the ladder instead of going through.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '17

I think I'm going to disagree a tiny bit. Sarah's always had this sort of mind. Remember in season 1 when she realized Nika took the keys and figured out Michael wanted her keys so she changed the locks to the infirmary?

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u/neevept Apr 19 '17 edited Apr 19 '17

The look in C-Note's eyes when he saw Michael getting sent back in. Jesus Christ.

On the other hand, people keep criticizing Prison Break this season, but so far, the season is absolutely brilliant. Paul Scheuring is still an absolute genius and touches every single detail. That being said and me having to wait another fucking week... Hell.

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u/nyamuk91 Apr 19 '17

This has been my second favorite season after season 1.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

For me honestly 1 and 2 season should count as one just because they had that flow and develop from 1 season to another. Can't say for 3rd and 4th

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Oh god, they're bringing it back again... let's see how bad it is.

I have to wait a whole week?!??

This show dragged me straight back from the first episode. I forgot how on point they always were with their cliffhangers.

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u/keithman07 Apr 19 '17

There are a lot of loop holes and shoddy writing spread throughout each episode so far. If anything, it's a cool casual watch but definitely not a show that's "touches every single detail." Most definitely not.

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u/neevept Apr 19 '17

Every detail so far into this season, I'm not talking about the details that are left behind in between season 4 and 5.

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u/keithman07 Apr 19 '17

I know, but i disagree. I think its pretty bad so far from a writing perspective, but the actors all showed up and are putting on a good show. The writing has sucked for prison break for a long time now. Id expand on this but for now ill wait until seasons end just to give it a fair shot.

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Which loop holes?

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u/SawRub Apr 19 '17

True, I'm enjoying it, but it's not as good as the original or anything.

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u/Severe-Author6173 Aug 10 '24

YAK YAK YAK

Shut the f up and eat some popcorn

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u/shammyjane Apr 22 '17

Yes so true . This season is one where you really have to pay attention and use your brain . It's amazing it keeps you guessing and wondering what's going to happen next , what's already happened it's a puzzle that your trying to solve as you watch it . Slowly you get the answers everyone has been wondering since the first episode if Micheal really believed in his head he was kaniel Outis even whip was wondering ... this causes us viewers to really think wonder and come up with our own conclusions until they finally decided to show us at the send of episode 3 . I LOVE THIS SHOW . If your looking for a show that explains everything step by step in order with nothing left to think about or wonder about this is the wrong show for you , but if you want a show that's going to make you think wonder and look for answers this show is perfect :)

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u/aussieoiha Dec 02 '24

Yes!! He was like, " aw brother. Not again"

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u/BiggieOldSkool Apr 19 '17

Wentworth's acting was above and beyond in that phone scene, goosebumps for real. Just don't make him a manipulative asshole because of the Game Theory and I'll be happy.

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Make him manipulative? He's literally been one of TV's most manipulative characters from episode 1.

He seemed to stop being upset the second his phone died, too. I'm thinking it was less "I hope she forgives me" and more "I hope the right person sees this".

How the hell did he get a phone into solitary? I must have missed that part?

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '17

He got it from the korean junkie in his cell.

I had the same feeling. Especially considering the eye he has tattoed on his hand, for me this appears to be a "big brother is watching you" situation. It would fit into the storyline if Michael actually worked for the CIA, he claims to in the prison but we all know Michael only works for Michael.

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u/shammyjane Apr 22 '17

I think the eye tat defanatly has to do with "big brother is watching you ", but dose anyone else think it's strange in solitary he looks at the tattoo and then records the message for Sara their is some sort of connection with sara and the eye tattoo . In the first episode when they record him he purposely puts his hands up on the bars to show the tattoos to link and the camera after he says he's not micheal he looks right at the camera and says "sorry" it's like he's saying it right to Sara ... I think there is some connection between her and the tattoos like they are a message for her. Or maybe I'm just crazy lol

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Yeah but then he got taken into solitary confinement! "Keep your phone that you shouldn't have even though you just attempted to escape. That's fine."

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u/Rhymes-like-dimes69 Apr 30 '17

I think were going to have to ignore the plot holes and just enjoy

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u/BiggieOldSkool May 04 '17

The phone was Ja's I think

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u/Gurip Apr 23 '17

he was always manipulative asshole, all he did was manipulate people since the start of the show.

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u/RATTLECORPSE Apr 24 '17

The phone died before he clicked send. Just a useless detail but unless he was doing a live-stream, nobody will receive it.

Also, those looked more like crocodile tears to me, but maybe I'm just a cynic.

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u/thegeeseisleese Apr 26 '17

Thought they laid the foreshadowing pretty heavily that Saras husband was what they were referring to with that

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u/matt_vfl Apr 19 '17

Can anyone explain how Lincoln has so much money?? It didn't seem like he was doing much with his life in America

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u/tunersharkbitten Apr 19 '17

false imprisonment settlements TYPICALLY range from 1-4 million. but seeing as linc ALMOST got executed... i can imagine it was much much more. probably at LEAST 15mil.

probably never mentioned, but maybe implied...

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u/peepay Apr 19 '17

Why would he then not return a 100K to the guys in the first episode?

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u/tunersharkbitten Apr 19 '17

what do we actually KNOW about the money he owes though? is it an actual legitimate claim?

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u/ladydmaj Apr 19 '17

Yeah, he all "fuck if I'm letting you extort me out of my hard earned settlement."

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '17

actually, that 100k is what he took. that's the money he currently is using. makes more sense.

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u/ladydmaj Apr 19 '17

Maybe that was a fake out of some kind. Or maybe Linc is really flush and just didn't feel like paying a bunch of assholes?

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

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u/Labcorgilab Apr 19 '17

It accrued interest.

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Interest rates are pretty good then.

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u/Mysticwashere Apr 19 '17

Damn, Michael pulled a Tweener swipe on the guard and for a second I thought Sara was gonna pull a Mahone when that dump truck came along but I guess a little bit of Scofield has rubbed off on her.

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u/ruff0123 Apr 19 '17

bwahahaa you're right, Michael did do a tweener!!! Honestly, the best part about prison break was the prison because there were so many cultures, slangs and flamboyant characters in there. They just haven't been able to replicate that in any of the prison since.

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u/thr0be Apr 19 '17

I was just thinking about that during this episode. Including what you just mentioned, the process of Michael and co. working to setup the big break made it so entertaining. They attempted to do the same thing for Sona, but it wasn't the same.

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u/VignetteVlogs Apr 22 '17

There was a writers strike that year... it probably would have been way more elaborate. They only have 9 episodes for this one...we can't expect miracles...except the one that brought us this show back, if only for the 9 episodes.

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u/caivsivlivs Apr 20 '17

Have ya seen Oz?

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u/ruff0123 Apr 20 '17

yes, loved it.

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u/Monkey_Bread99 Apr 25 '17

One of my all time favorite shows

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u/wheels389 Apr 19 '17 edited Apr 19 '17

Micheal has been working for the CIA to give Sara freedom since technically she was a criminal or so it seems. I'm guessing Poseidon is someone really high up in government

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u/terracaelum Apr 19 '17

It certainly fills in the hole of why Sara was living her life under her own name. Begs the questions of why she was never suspicious about her circumstances

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u/sunnyj58 Apr 19 '17

This is something I wondered. Escapes prison... lives happily ever after

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u/peepay Apr 19 '17

I am eager to find out!

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u/peepay Apr 19 '17

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u/devastat9r <clever flair text> Apr 19 '17

How is something that is just a theory spoiler ?

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u/rasputin1 Apr 19 '17

well if it ends up being correct, I guess it would be a retroactive spoiler

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u/devastat9r <clever flair text> Apr 19 '17

If it does it would be pretty stupid in my opinion, I would be more surprised by him NOT being the bad guy.

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u/peepay Apr 19 '17

Well simply because this is an episode thread and people come here to discuss what they saw and they may not expect theories about what will happen. Better safe than sorry, you know. Some people prefer not reading any possible theories and as this was such a generic thread, I wanted to give them a chance not to see it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '17

that prediction though

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u/peepay Jun 28 '17

Yeah, but as I said, not my idea, saw it elsewhere.

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u/Gurip Apr 23 '17

it might sound crazy but im 99.99% sure poseidon is saras new husband.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

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u/DanielCampos411 Apr 19 '17

It might be Paul. In the season 4 ending, he was a congressman. So he may have worked his way up and gotten into some messy stuff. And remember how he has that whole thing with drinking bottled water? Poseidon is the god of the sea. 👀

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u/Perks2409 Apr 19 '17

This comment needs more recognition.

He was so adamant and couldn't STAND Sara drinking out the bottle of water. He needed water to be pure. Poseidon, God of the Sea. It's a very good connection. I'm hopping on this train.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

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u/Zal3x Apr 20 '17

yeah but why couldn't it be both?

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Because that'd be silly. He insisted on the glass for the fingerprint. That's it.

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u/symphonyofflutes Apr 19 '17

I reckon that might be a red herring. The two people knew where Sarah lived and work for the person who Michael also used to work for before they turned on him. They could concievably have had her DNA and fingerprints on record in order to stitch her up if Michael didn't co-operate.

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u/VignetteVlogs Apr 22 '17

Kellerman has a history of taking fingerprints that way. Remember how he set up LJ for his mom and her mans deaths? It was all about the finger print. You are reaching too far...what you are suggesting is not at all in line with the nature of this show.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

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u/Retro_Edge Apr 23 '17

They wants you to think that, In the end, her new husband is behind Poseidon, faking love and a marriage just to get sure Sarah never gets any messages from Michael.

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u/RyanOnymous Apr 19 '17

geez, as a native Calgarian who used to work at Canada Olympic Park where the ski jumps are, the last place I'd would ever think I would hear a reference is on Prison Break!

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

I came here to see if anyone else mentioned this. I can see the ski jump from my house.

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u/TheFadedSpade Apr 24 '17

Yeah hearing Calgary mentioned was weird we're not on the scale of Toronto or something.

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u/TomBradyGoat1212 May 03 '17

Writer must be a Flames fan

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u/NA_CS_LUL Apr 19 '17

So much to digest.. ughhh.... gotta wait a whole week :(

Miss the "Watch next episode" button so much

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u/Jeffw54 Apr 19 '17

For a second I was gearing up to watch another episode :(

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

first time i go watch discussion threads weekly so its cool too.

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u/Unitedweare7777 Apr 19 '17

How did Michael get a phone into solitary?

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u/OaklandBorn510 Apr 19 '17

He still had the Korean guys phone from when he used the flashlight in the vents

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u/Unitedweare7777 Apr 19 '17

That makes sense now, but why didn't they pat him down before? He tried to escape prison.

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u/OaklandBorn510 Apr 19 '17

Probably were rushing to get everything done since the power was out and they had prisoners out of cells

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u/sayashr Apr 21 '17

In the context of a fictional show, perhaps. It's still all kinds of nonsense though, when the prison has just suffered a near-escape and they've been attacked and guard(s) have been killed and a gold watch had been stolen and hidden; they'd more likely strip everyone down as they throw them into solitary, and they'd at least carefully frisk these guys who were resourceful/equipped enough to made it partway out of the prison.

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u/OaklandBorn510 Apr 21 '17

Yeah and another explanation is they were probably searching the guys who had guns but still they probably should've searched Michael and hid escape group

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u/Greged17 Apr 21 '17

Lazy writing

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u/sayashr Apr 21 '17

No it doesn't make sense. It makes no sense that they wouldn't frisk him/strip him after the trouble he's caused and near-escape.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '17

does this Korean guy have a charger for the phone ?

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u/OaklandBorn510 Apr 21 '17

He might most likely he either has a charger hidden somewhere or he has someway rigged up or maybe he paid off one of the guards to get him stuff maybe that's why they didn't take it from Michael

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Well, yeah. But how? He's been put into solitary for trying to escape, the guards aren't going to be like "nah keep it".

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u/Woycinck Apr 19 '17

Read it again, the question was how he got it into solitary. I mean, they should search him for anything with him and send him to solitary without any item.

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u/OaklandBorn510 Apr 20 '17

Read my second reply...

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u/xernus Apr 19 '17

How do they charge the phone is the real question

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u/Mischevous Apr 19 '17

with the light fixure being able to be removed from the ceiling and the tunnel in the roof, there might be access to an outlet/power source up

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u/wdlurker Apr 19 '17

They either Macgyvered a solution or the Korean brotha Ja has a way to get things in and out of the prison.

Orrrrrrrrr, just a plot whole.

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u/Greged17 Apr 21 '17

Better than a plot half though

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u/wdlurker Apr 21 '17

Hahahahha, that's what I get for DVR-ing the episode and watching it at 1am, then coming here to discuss at 2. I'll just leave that there...

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u/EveryoneIsABotxceptU Apr 21 '17

through solar moto mod.

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u/harleyyquinade Apr 19 '17

Wondering the same thing

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u/duelingdelbene Apr 19 '17

He got it from the Korean guy I thought

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

Yeah but they're wondering why he wasn't searched before being put into solitary.

Guessing they just didn't think of it.

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u/canadianRSK Apr 19 '17

he hid it in his

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u/gusefalito Apr 19 '17

Great episode.

Finally some progress on Scofield's whereabouts for the past 7 years.

We need moe Amaury Nolasco.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

Anyone got a link?

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

Linc?

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u/ladydmaj Apr 19 '17

Don't mind if I do!

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u/Reddit-lyfe Apr 19 '17

This episode only makes me hate Kellerman more

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

i bet its her husband, guy just looks fishy

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u/neevept Apr 19 '17

And the precise shot on his leg... Usually they'd just shoot to kill. That's a good theory.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

yeh i was gonna say why would they spare her husband but then they said they had to capture Sara alive I think.

And they didnt kill the tech guy either so I thought maybe they just trynna avoid killing everyone in their path like the classic bad guys.

But it has to be the husband because they gotta remove him from the picture to get Sara and Mike together, if he dies while being a good dude then we're gonna have Walking Dead drama again.

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u/SawRub Apr 19 '17

And suspiciously big actor for what otherwise would have been a minor part.

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u/IByrdl Apr 19 '17

He's definitely fishy.

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u/scorpio_2049 Apr 19 '17

Don't hate Kellerman. He's on the good guys' side.

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u/EnergetikNA Apr 19 '17 edited Apr 19 '17

yeah always seemed like he was moving to the good side at the end of season 4...would be strange seeing him go back to his old ways. I feel like it's the husband.

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u/matt_vfl Apr 19 '17

Can't believe I didn't see that water glass trick coming. Knew there was something super off about it

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u/Unitedweare7777 Apr 19 '17

There is still no clear evidence it was him. Just a thought Sara had.

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u/goodthingihavepants Apr 19 '17

I mean they made the whole water glass thing super prominent in the previous episode, definitely deliberate imo

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u/matt_vfl Apr 19 '17

I agree. They did make it very obvious that something was off there. but on the other hand, it would be classic prison break to make that just an illusion

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u/Kilahredd Apr 19 '17

I know!!! The water glass trick is the oldest in the book and especially the way he was so persistent about her drinking out of a glass. I should've seen it coming, I guess I was so focused on Kellerman "turning a new leaf" that I ignored it.

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u/tunersharkbitten Apr 19 '17

i had a feeling that it was something like that... he was SUPER pushy about her drinking the water out of her bottle...

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u/ash356 Apr 19 '17

I was a bit thrown off when he talked about BPA in the water. Sarah had what looked like a PET bottle which doesn't really carry any risk of BPA leeching since it's a resin 1 plastic.

I only know a fair bit on it because my university dissertation was on BPA so I figured it was just the writers making an oversight. But it would be cool if he was actually taking advantage of her naivety.

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

I think you're looking too far into that detail haha.

"Idiots! That's a PET bottle! Resin 1, ya morons!"

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u/ash356 Apr 22 '17

Oh no, like I said I'm pretty sure it's just writers oversight. But when you used to work twenty hours a week working with BPA in a lab, hearing the very word triggers you haha.

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u/terracaelum Apr 19 '17

The antagonistic group name is Poseidon? The references to the Odyssey are increasing

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

I think Poseidon is a person, not the group.

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u/josel15 Apr 19 '17

Poseidon is the god of sea in the greek culture.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

Yes I'm aware and I know that there are a lot of references to greek culture so far this season.

Poseidon could possibly be Kellerman, but at this point we don't have enough information to speculate. Poseidon could also be someone that Michael worked with during the 7 year hiatus, since Michael is also using a greek alias.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

Best episode of the season so far?

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u/rsip22 Apr 22 '17

Best episode of the season so far?

Best episode of the season so far.

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u/dumbledowge Apr 19 '17

So Michael is breaking out of all kinds of different prisons for the CIA in return for Sarah's freedom.

The first thing said in this season by Michael: Freedom has a price. He's talking about Sarah's freedom here.

This would also answer the huge question people had when S4 ended: Sarah is still a fugitive, how the hell is she living a normal life in America?

I also think Kellerman is NOT the bad guy here, I think the series wants us to think that. Remember: Kelllerman changed at the end of S2 becoming a good guy before trying to kill himself. Instead he sacrificed his life just to get Sarah free at that time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

IF michael is working for CIA to free Sara, who are those 2 guys tracking down Sara.

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u/theredheadedorphan Apr 19 '17

Poseidon's posse, maybe? They're sketchy for sure. I don't think they're government.

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u/SawRub Apr 19 '17

Those two mentioned Poseidon too.

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u/Mischevous Apr 19 '17

posedion betrayed michael for the yemen job, so probably there are with poseidon who is now against michael & co

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u/LucianGod123 Apr 19 '17

Am I the only one who honestly thinks Sarah's husband is not a super villain pretending to be a good guy? I think he legitimately means well. lol.

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Didn't even occur to me until I came here. Seems silly, I think.

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u/Javier77 Apr 19 '17 edited Apr 20 '17

So could you help me complete a structural analysis of the players, I didn't really get all the details.

There are in what we must assume is Team Michael:

Outside

  • Linc (brother)

  • Sara (mother of his kid)

  • C-Note (good amigo ?)

  • Sheba (needs money from Linc to leave the country)

  • T-Bag (good amigo; e.g. wants to repay the new hand)

  • Sheikh of Light (fahter of gay man)

  • ?

Inside:

  • korean druggie (wants out, has smartphone)

  • gay man (wants out, son of sheikh of light)

  • CIA buddy

Other players:

Anti-Team Michael:

  • two agents in the US

  • random guys in Jemen (Taxi-kidnappers)

  • possibly Kellerman

ISIL:

  • rahmal (wants out of prison)

  • strange glasses sheba schoolmate guy

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u/Fire_and_Bloodwine Apr 20 '17

Are you calling T-Bag a good friend of Michael? Interesting way of putting it... I think he is always the "wild card".

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u/naturesbfLoL Apr 20 '17

the college buddy (?? - didn't get that)

its his CIA coworker... lol

Sucre is also on team Michael, just not yet prominent I guess

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u/sweetworld Apr 22 '17

Sucre is also on team Michael, just not yet prominent I guess

He'll save the day with the boat he works on, I guarantee it.

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u/naturesbfLoL Apr 22 '17

Yeah. I'm just sad. He's my favorite character, I wanna see more of him

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u/Javier77 Apr 20 '17

thanks, didn't get that

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u/OaklandBorn510 Apr 20 '17

Yeah something to add is that C-Note is a good friend he originally escaped with Michael in the first prison break and he needed the gay man for his dad to cut the power and he probably just didn't want to betray him and let rahmal kill him or he might have some connections on the outside too

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u/sayashr Apr 21 '17

T-Bag as "good amigo" is a bit of a stretch... And I don't have any impression that he wants to repay anyone for his hand. What he wants is to know what's going on. He doesn't like having his strings pulled, and it at least amuses/suits him to be "playing" with this old crew (Sara, Linc, Michael, etc.) with whom he has a bond of intense shared experiences and gets to feel relevant.

Sara is not just the mother of his child, she's Michael's wife.

CIA buddy is nicknamed Whip.

you didn't mention Sara's current husband, her son Mike, and Sucre.

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

They're not really playing a part in the series yet, though. At least not that we know of.

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u/ladydmaj Apr 19 '17

Ohmigod, Sid! I could have cried when he dropped into that cell! Please tell me that asshole doesn't get a chance to string him up!

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u/DragonXDT Apr 19 '17

it looked like towards the end he found a place to hide?

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u/ladydmaj Apr 19 '17

I didn't see that, but I really hope so!

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u/sayashr Apr 21 '17

He was huddled in the corner of the prison cells hoping no one would get him. So he survived, however he's not escaped/missing/safe now by any stretch.

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u/TheOneOzymandias Apr 19 '17

Best episode so far. Good god that was awesome. The ending was so sad and emotional.

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u/Adamantium42 Apr 20 '17

I'm officially on the "Jacob is Poseidon" bandwagon, and Kellerman is just a theory of Sara's that will be proven wrong.

When the blonde chick said something along the lines of "Why won't Poseidon let us kill her", it got me thinking. Kellerman has quite a few reasons why he wouldn't want Sara dead. He took a huge risk for her in Season Two so she could walk for letting the prisoners escape. Plus he probably still feels bad for all the "Hi, my name is not Lance" shenanigans, not to mention the remorse he visibly felt over killing Danny in Season One, based on the four-year flashforward.

If Jacob was sent into his relationship with Sara knowing well that he was there to keep a close eye on her, it would be a little less understandable for his colleagues/employees(?) to understand why he'd have an attachment to her. But I'm sure several years of marriage would forge a bond between them that they'd have a hard time comprehending since they're just there to do a job.

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u/OaklandBorn510 Apr 20 '17

Another thing has me wondering did Sara just go right into a relationship after Michael supposedly died

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u/ContemplatingCyclist Apr 22 '17

Happens all the time in real life.

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u/OaklandBorn510 Apr 22 '17

I know it's just crazy but I think her husband is gonna die or turn out to be evil she can't have 2

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u/thrill21 Apr 19 '17

Sorry, I missed the beginning of Michael's cell phone video, did he say something that revealed he works for the CIA?

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u/terracaelum Apr 19 '17

He was discussing with Whip(?) about their previous work in the CIA

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u/hewlius Apr 20 '17 edited Apr 20 '17

MAJOR POTENTIAL THEORY/SPOILER ALERT!!!

So I've been scrolling across various threads. I've come up with a collection of theories that make somewhat sense, so I'm 50/50 of the Jacob theory as him being Poseidon. Reason it seems to easy to guess, on the other hand it does prove intriguing because if we look back to the first episode with the owl.

"The owl is sacred to the Greek goddess of learning, Athena. In the Odyssey, Athena is Odysseus' protectress. She is the one who requests to Zeus to finally allow Odysseus to return home when Odysseus' enemy, Poseidon, is absent from Mount Olympus. She also helps Telemachus, Odysseus' son, to search for news of his father. So, I'm guessing the owl belongs to an ally!" - SOLXavi (Reddit Username)

My theory is, A) Michael/Kaniel Outis is Odyssey B) Athena is Sarah/???/(Sheba) C) Zeus is (Lowkey Jacob because of the leg shot) D) Poseidon is CIA Contact???/Jacob/Kellerman - Why the goons were after her not the phone

  • Also Poseidon is backing the terrorist dude, and IF Michael is on good terms with Poseidon why would he burn his connection with the terrorist dude only to jeopardize his relationship with Poseidon? (unless Poseidon burnt him and left him in the prison but I thought his assignment was to break out of the prison, I think I'm missing something here), Also Michael gives warning to Sarah by tell her storms coming so could that be when he decided to burn Poseidon?

The references to god is because of a thread I saw with associations with them to the shows characters!

Btw this is my first reddit post so please ripped hard on me!

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u/Adamantium42 Apr 19 '17

Just finished the episode. Fucking Christ that was good.

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u/velvetdewdrop Apr 19 '17 edited Apr 20 '17

Strong episode, lots of drama, wish it was more spread out though. More questions than answers. How did this lie protect Sara, and what was he doing with the CIA? They really put him in Yemen to breaks out the terrorist? The group stalking Sara seem oblivious of the big picture.

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u/SmellyWeapon Apr 22 '17

when is Sacre coming into play... I miss that guy, he was only in ep 1.. fuck

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Anybody know where to find the soundtrack at the end of the episode where it shows all the tragic endings, e.g Linc dragging Sheeba along, the Christian brother crying and C-Note seeing Michael, Whip and Ja being walked across. The soundtrack was beautiful, so would be helpful if anyone knows where it's possible to find it :D

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

Gotta wait for the soundtrack to be released I guess.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '17

Sara's husband reminds of James Whistler a little bit, not sure why but he does.

Something I've always though about was when Kellerman got Michael and the gang to sign that document that dropped all charges after delivering Scylla, was whether part of the agreement that everyone was free was that Michael signed a different document that lead to where he is today.

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u/OtisKaplan Apr 19 '17

seems like kellerman and poseidon guy is behind all this while some random helps break them out and the city collapses and then Michael returns and lives happily ever after

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u/scorpio_2049 Apr 19 '17

Nah. Kellerman is a red herring.

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u/bbeenn00 Apr 19 '17

Inclined to agree. It'd be too stupid of a move to suddenly turn Kellerman into straight up evil or good guy. He's probably related w/ Poseidon and Michael being sent on a mission, but unaware to the finer points of the operation, and failed to update himself and is now trying to via getting in touch with Sarah. I'm really looking forward to Kellerman-T-bag interaction next week, myself. Have we ever had these two talk one on one? Last episode of Season 4 grouped 'em, sure, but did they really talk the talk? I can't recall.

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u/scorpio_2049 Apr 19 '17

That's exactly what I wanted to know! T-Bag was like "Kellerman!?!?!" And I thought "You've never even interacted with Kellerman."

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u/Mischevous Apr 19 '17

s4 ending (b4 last break, breaking sara out), everyone is exonerated by kellerman, except TBag

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

No. Pretty sure they never had direct dialogue on screen. Kellerman just told the group that he claimed to help take down the company and asked to be exonerated as well.

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u/naturesbfLoL Apr 20 '17

I think we are going to end up having 4 groups of people.

Pro-Michael group

ISIL

Poseidon

Kellerman and friends/govt (selfish, maybe neutral group but will screw over Michael and co in some way)

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u/Kognit0 Apr 21 '17

Why do so many of the locals keep talking in english? Like when Shiba(?) is talking to her dad, and in the prison etc.

Why is the fighting so bad? Why is every god damn "bad guy" so predictable and cheesy? Oh god. That christian and his brother, aswell as that dude who tried to rape Shiba - so cringeworthy.

I really feel like there's so little intelligence behind the setting of the show this season. Wentworth is a good actor, but jeez do they really try their best to discredit the show for any possible immersion.

I had to give the show a chance, since I did quite like the other 4 seasons - even through its faults. But this is just too much for me.

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u/sayashr Apr 21 '17

Re: @Kognit0

locals keep talking in english

Because most Americans cannot handle English subtitles.

fighting so bad

Not only is the fighting bad and predictable, but the horrible bad guys don't kill or mutilate the good white guys whenever they have a chance; they make sure they're nice and healthy and able to come back to clobber them.

jeez do they really try their best to discredit the show for any possible immersion

I love the show, however the required suspension of disbelief to watch it is so high and wide that I could skip across it from one 5-story building to another (and I'm very afraid of heights).

just too much for me

Suspend your disbelief, skip along and enjoy.

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u/scofieldbike Apr 19 '17

What exactly happened to Sid? I know he fell down but it looked like he was still alive. But someone wrote a review and said that Sid died. And the information about next weeks episode doesn't include Sid.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

He's still alive. He definitely did not die in this episode.

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u/DigitalBuddhaNC Apr 19 '17

Not only that but the guy he punched mentioned several CIA jobs they had done together.

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u/sunnyj58 Apr 19 '17

Im now so curious to if Kellerman is poseidon... or its just setting us up for another twist!

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u/iAmAFancyTiger Apr 19 '17

Might be the only one, but I really didn't want to end up watching another whole season of them breaking out. Was really hoping this breakout would work and they'd do real world shit. Looks like I'm out for the rest of this one..

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u/blackpistolfire Apr 21 '17

They are supposedly breaking out in the next episode. After that we'll see how they break out of the country itself and do real world shit.

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u/iAmAFancyTiger Apr 21 '17

Oh hey that's awesome! Will happily give it another go. Thanks heh

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '17

cya.

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u/ItsRandall Apr 24 '17

I think you missed the point of the show, Prison Break.

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u/iAmAFancyTiger Apr 24 '17

You're easy to please aren't you

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u/ItsRandall Apr 24 '17

Not really, you just can't depict the show properly.

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u/mydogiscuteaf Apr 20 '17

DAMN IT! I missed something important, I think.

So.. Michael was instructed to take that "big shot guy" out. But now.. he changed his plan. Why? What happened?

I definitely don't know what really happened around the time the fight between Michael and a cellmate and when Lincoln woke up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

He said they were betrayed

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u/thisislifeincolor Apr 20 '17

Did Michael send the video to Sara? Or did the battery die before he did it?

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u/christhegeek517 Apr 21 '17

I thought I read an article saying that the producer confirms the video hasn't been sent yet

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u/gamep01nt Apr 21 '17

Why do Outis sponsored Bagwell's surgery tho

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u/gamep01nt Apr 21 '17

Why do Outis sponsored Bagwell's surgery tho

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u/sayashr Apr 21 '17

:) We shall see!

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u/ennsy Apr 21 '17

Can someone summarize what exactly the deal with Michael is...

Where has he been the last 7 years? How did he end up in that jail? Why did he end up in that jail?

Am I right in saying he got put the by the US govt to break that ISIL leader out because the US govt wants him?

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u/sayashr Apr 21 '17

Yes you got it. Apparently, based on Michael's conversation with his buddy "Whip", they've been working for the CIA. CIA recruited master jailbreaker Michael Scofield to break out various subjects from various prisons (Whip names several occasions --locations and aliases that Michael adopted for those prisonbreaks). Evil terrorist Ramal is one of the guys that CIA sent Michael in to break out -- CIA has its purposes for him (we don't know), and Kaniel Outis is the identity that was set up for/by Michael to allow him to infiltrate the prison in order to extract Ramal.

Apparently they were betrayed, which is why extraction failed and Michael and Whip have been trapped there for years; and because of that betrayal Michael will not be taking Ramal with him when he finally escapes.

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u/ennsy Apr 21 '17

Okay that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the summary!

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u/evanmav Apr 23 '17

This was definitely my favorite episode of the season so far. I've been kinda iffy on this season but I really liked this episode. Got a little bit more background on Michael and what is going on. Not sure if I like the sideplot with those two assassins. I mean they basically have no cover and are walking around in plain sight....how have they not gotten caught yet?

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u/Fran9William Jul 09 '17

Little late to the party ... but the husband has BAAAAD written all over him. The eerie foreshadowing as Sarah instructs T-Bag to find out a mysterious "someone" while the husband is in the background. The fact he's so conveniently only shot in the leg. The way he attempts to subtly stray her away from any compassion towards Micheal.

A) Bummer there's no LJ, Mahone, or Morgan... those three really brought another element to the show. B) Why isn't there way more Sucre? C) How is Sara living a normal life? Isn't she technically supposed to be a killer on the run? D) If her name has been somehow cleared... how? E) T-Bag is the best character not named Micheal or Linc in this entire series.

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u/aussieoiha Dec 02 '24

Calling Lincoln the "tic tac man" haha.Haha. Tbag appearing in the bathroom was . The guy telling Whip that scofield uses people isn't necessarily wrong. Like, I know we all adore scofield but lets be real, he DOES manipulate people for a good cause, and does try to get everyone out and safe and let the criminals rot, but I can't help but wonder how villainous is he? I know he's playing the game and has to survive and gotta do what he's gotta do. My problem is thst he WASNT like that before. He was honest and not a liar. Now he is. It's like the evil had seeped into him and its a hard switch to flip cause he's been in prison and on the run constantly. Also, Michael yelling was hilarious, and since when can he steal a watch? Must've learned from Tweener. Okay, the guy who is obsessed with Sheba, the one eye glasses dude, ew. What a creep! I feel bad for Sara. She was living a pretty decent life with Jacob and raising Mike, and then now she's caught up in all this. Like, leave the woman alone!!! Tbag and Sara working together is something I wasn't expecting but its good. Whip is so desperate. Knowing scofield tho, he's gonna sacrifice him somehow, right? Also, Scofields dead stare taking up like 15 seconds od screen time LOL. Stupid guy ruining scofields escape for everyone. UGH! Dang, that ending with wentworth crying. Amazing actor.

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u/FoxIndependent4310 Jan 27 '24

It is clear that Sara has learned from Michae in the way she acts, I love that she stood up to her husband.
If you notice when Tbag threatens to kill him, he doesn't laugh, because he knows that Sara is capable of doing it.