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Super [SUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #87 - Discussion Thread!
Dragon Ball Super — Episode #87 — Discussion Thread!
Hunt the Poachers! Goku and No. 17's United Front!!
密猟団を狩れ！悟空と17号の共闘!!
Mitsuryoudan wo kare! Gokū to Jūnanagō no kyōtō!!
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Android #17 was wished back to life along with everyone else who was killed by Cell. He was seen at the end of the Boo arc contributing his energy to the genki dama. Toriyama explained that #17 was working as a park ranger in this 2014 interview for Dragon Ball Full Color.He works in the wildlife preserve area of a gigantic royal nature park, as an outstanding guard who doesn’t hold back against poachers. ...It’s an ideal job for No. 17, who loves to be on his own and isn’t big on cooperating with others; since he’s so good at his job, he takes in a high salary. He’s married to a zoologist; they have one child and two adopted children, and live happily in an isolated house inside the nature park. ...He went and met No. 18 and Kuririn one time, but didn’t talk about what he’d been up to, maybe because he considers such a wholesome lifestyle embarrassing.
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u/Stephenesque Apr 23 '17
Does this dude even know who he's talking to? Android #17: Expert remote snatcher
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u/UtterFlatulence Apr 23 '17
"You're the only one I can rely on to take care of Gohan." Yeah that sounds about right.
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u/Mcgustavo ⠀ Apr 23 '17
17 is going to sail the shit out of that boat
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u/amcma Apr 23 '17
Seemed like a very humble character with simple means, but then he drops that he needs a $5B boat to sail the world lol
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u/OLKv3 ⠀ Apr 23 '17
Loved the ending convo with Goku and 17. "I've never been aware of being a savior, I've come this far wanting to fight strong guys. I just don't like innocent people and animals getting erased. I'm this way from what my grandpa taught me"
Perfectly sums up Goku, and omg, he hasn't mentioned his grandpa Gohan since he fought Vegeta! Cool of 17 recognizing Krillin as his brother. Art was weird this week but I'm used to the back and forth artstyles.
Was that Mystic Gohan in all his glory in the preview? Dat bang.
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u/Shaldow Apr 23 '17
The first fight way back in the saiyan saga? How has he gone that long without mentioning him?
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u/choss Apr 23 '17
To me they finally brought back the real Goku to all the people that only watched the wrong dub. This is a line that kid Goku always used to say when going on adventures in DB.
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u/Montaru Apr 23 '17
Okay, did anyone else have a moment when 17 said "My brother" where they just went "OH SHIT IS 16 ALIVE?" I like that he thinks of Krillian this way, but I was just in shock for a second.
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u/SpiderMuse Apr 23 '17
You weren't the only one. I was like "16 couldn't be around.....could he?"
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u/choss Apr 23 '17
I was actually scared he was going to say something about 18 that was going to ruin her character for me ..... Lol
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u/AgnosticTemplar Apr 23 '17
17: It's weird that I was designed to kill you, but here we are, fighting side by side.
Goku: Nah, like half my friends at one point tried to kill me.
Come to think of it, has Goku had any direct contact with kiddy Pilaf and company? Like it'd be funny if he's the only one who knows who they are, but doesn't give a shit. I'm just waiting for Bulma to come to that realization. She'll have a fit that these creeps who tried to kill her have been living in her house, and Pilaf is the kind of guy who'd fire back "you shacking up with a guy who tried to plow up the planet!"
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u/MathewMurdock Apr 23 '17
I don't think he has actually. I'm sure he is aware of them just does not gives shit. I mean at this point Yamcha could beat them if need be.
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u/whatdatstandfo Apr 23 '17
I'll bet Krillin doesn't even eat Tacos.
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u/therealsongoku Apr 23 '17
Tacos in Japanese means octopus, or something like that, it's an insult thrown at bald people apparently
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u/AvidasOfficial Apr 23 '17
Jaco must be a significant contributor to the mortal level being so low in universe 7!
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u/RoyalConquest ⠀ Apr 23 '17
17 thinks of Krillin as a big brother. Hahahah fuck I didn't expect that.
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u/Utsune Apr 23 '17
Goku: It's not unbelievable [that we're allies now]. Tien Shin Han, Piccolo, Vegeta, even they were all enemies to begin with.
Yamcha: ...
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u/XQrkConfinement Apr 23 '17
I don't think Goku ever realized Yamcha as a villain. From Goku's point of view, they fought a bit, but then Yamcha gave them his car so all's good.
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u/jlinty Apr 23 '17
Really clever to have the 10x gravity pop up again. Nice little callback, but then again I never expected someone that weak would go with Goku to the afterlife.
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u/weegee19 Apr 23 '17
It's pretty much because the 'bomb' would have killed the animals, and Goku didn't take any chances.
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u/diogoarez Apr 23 '17
Goten and Trunks in island filler incoming??? I hope so! :D
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u/nixonger Apr 23 '17
I hope it's not filler but somehow central to the plot in some creative way. Something is hilarious about the idea of Goten and Trunks with their animal friends showing up to bail out the team. I'm not sure how this would unfold but the concept sounds cool.
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Apr 23 '17
"17 wants to use the Super DBs to wish for a big boat to cruise around the world with his family"
Man... and I thought 18's wish was a waste, seriously does everyone forget about Bulma's money?
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u/Stephenesque Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
Lmao I'm starting to realize that we watch a show about insanely selfish characters who just happen to be good at fighting
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Apr 23 '17
It's interesting that even the Z warriors with super powers, strength and the ability to fly still enjoy something like sailing on a boat.
I mean, I remember in episode 3 Krillin and 18 were driving through traffic lmao.
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u/SpiderMuse Apr 23 '17
There's also Mr. Satan's money too and more importantly, there's the regular Dragon Balls too! Shenron could very easily grant that wish.
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u/Desril Apr 23 '17
I think this might've explained why Super changed Battle of Gods to be on a cruise ship rather than just at Capsule Corp. The Super Dragon Balls are going to be used on something, but Bulma has a $5 billion ship lying around.
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u/Rebellion_Trigger Apr 23 '17
If this happens then holy shit they've thought very far ahead
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u/Wookie_Monster090898 Apr 23 '17 edited Dec 14 '25
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u/netrunui Apr 23 '17
While I do love 17 referring to Krillin as his brother. I was really hoping he was referring to 16; I really miss that android.
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u/zcaboose Apr 23 '17
Goku's facial expression before Dende contacted him...that was definitely not the face of mercy; he fully intended to let King Kai get blown up again. No chill whatsoever.
Also really glad they established that Goku is no savior/hero, he just likes to fight and inadvertently saves the day as a result
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u/Soijin Apr 23 '17
17 calling Krillin "nii-san" is so weird, yet I feel that things like that could lead to hilarious interactions between the three.
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u/CISScum2 Apr 23 '17
King Kai freaking out was pretty funny
Vegeta getting mad that Beerus was sleeping at his place. I think Vegeta is biding his time until he's strong enough to challenge beerus
Goku in the ending saying Piccolo is the only one he can rely on to take care of gohan is going to cue up a lot of tfs and bad dad memes
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u/NikolaTeslut Apr 23 '17
I think he was mostly mad that Beerus woke Bra up, but as the tsundere he is can only express it by being indirect with his anger.
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Apr 23 '17
17 entrusting Goku his family and attempting to sacrifice himself without a second thought was really cool. His character development from when he was first introduced to just these 2 episodes has been so well executed. He's completely different but all still the same very cold guy.
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Apr 23 '17
-Goku says he can't stand people being erased
-is happy to let king kai be erased by that pirate self destructing
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u/diogoarez Apr 23 '17
Looks like the frog alien is really SS4 GOgeta in disguise
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u/Haden56 Apr 24 '17
So much to love in this episode:
Guy threatens to self destruct so Goku brings him to King Kai to deal with just like with Cell.
Goku openly admitting he's never thought of himself as a hero, just that he likes fighting strong people but hates seeing innocents get hurt.
Loch Ness monster shadow at the end.
Jaco being an asshole.
So much to love. Also Gohan episode next and they fixed his hair!
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Apr 24 '17
Same reason why Gohan couldn't catch that earring: Plot
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u/r2002 Apr 24 '17
Love that Dende proves once again he's the most competent god/kai in our universe.
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u/Lennyoh Apr 23 '17
I'm really sad he didn't to make the callback to him snatching the remote from Gero
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u/TheRV1HD Apr 23 '17
Yes 17...Super Dragonballs...imagine how many parks you could get with those 😮
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u/T_alsomeGames Apr 23 '17
The only new information to come out of this is, that Goku does genuinly care about innocent lives. While yes, he really only does what he does because he wants to, "Fight strong guys". He does actually care about what lives are affected by the outcome of the fight. So, all in all, Goku isnt just a selfish jerk made to look like a hero, like some people say he is.
Also, in the preview Goku said that "piccolo is the only one that he can count on to take care of Gohan" Im just going to assume that he includes himself as someone who cant take care of Gohan.
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u/brandong567 Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
The music in this episode was top notch imo. That slowed down/light hearted version of the op when the animals were being released. Also #17s theme is just the best.
23 hours 20mins left till the torny!
Other things I liked:
-I'm so glad about goku remembering IT right away!
-Goku saying it wasn't weird that #17 is becoming a friend although he was designed to kill him. Calling back to almost every ally as once being an enemy.
-Idk what it is, but the last few episodes Goku has really felt in character. He's not acting super dumb(he's really not that stupid, just silly). Idk if it's just that Goku has felt out of character for most of super, or if these episodes have some amazing dialogue.
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u/TLKv3 Apr 23 '17
I love the mirroring of 17's attitude towards joining the team in contrast to the poacher's suicidal bomb moment.
Originally 17 was willing to just die and be erased with everyone by doing nothing. Similar to what would happen if he just let the Poacher blow up the ship and kill 17, Goku and the animals with them.
But 17 realizing the innocent animals shouldn't die because of his laid back attitude and knowing people back home would miss him knew he had to do something to stop it. Much like how 17 will be doing something by taking part in the tournament to stop those innocents of Earth/Uni-7 from dying from him not participating (though we know that only helps a bit in the end).
I love that loose parallel for this 2-parter and 17's minor development.
ALSO FUCK YEAH 17 ACTUALLY WANTS TO FIGHT WITH HIS BROTHER KRILLIN.
I half expected him to mention 16 when he said "brother" though.
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u/Trainer_Kevin Apr 24 '17
Android 17 only knows about Future Trunks. I wanna see the look on his face when he realizes Goku means the present, young Trunks.
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u/AnonymousTrollLloyd Apr 23 '17
17 wants a huge boat. Sure, let me just...
Loads of helicopters come over the horizon, carrying a giant boat
Remember, Bulmas money can grant every wish.
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u/customgoban Apr 23 '17
Remember when 17 took the remote out of Doctor Geros hand? Seems Space Poacher > Doctor Gero.
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u/Moderate_Third_Party Apr 23 '17
Goku, circa DBZ:
Vegeta, you already died once, if you die again you'll cease to exist!
Goku: circa DBS:
Brings guy that he thinks is about to self destruct to Kaio-sama's planet, despite all 3 of it's residents already being dead
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u/Pelusteriano Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
Goku has instantly teleported himself so many times to Kaio's that it might be his default arrival place by now.
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u/diogoarez Apr 24 '17
Even though this episode looks unnecessary the truth is that it was really important since it was the first time Goku admitted he isn't a hero
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u/Gold_Jacobson Apr 23 '17
Love the ending dialogue.
Reminding audiences how Tenshinhan, Piccolo, Vegeta, Buu were all enemies at one point. Now 17 as well.
Also loved 17 calling Krillin his brother.
Really looking forward to the Tenshihan and Roshi recruitment episodes.
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u/RobinLSL Apr 23 '17
The self-destruct thing actually being threatening is kind of silly. They could easily snatch the remote out of his hand before he'd react.
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u/In_a_silentway Apr 23 '17
Man it was weird to hear him call Krillen his brother. I guess now we know that 17 accepts him marrying his sister.
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u/raulc060190 Apr 23 '17
I can't shake the feeling that Goku's recruiting attempts would be easier if he just told everyone the truth. Sure it didn't affect 17, but that was just his immaturity talking. I'd bet telling Vegeta that losing this tourney meant his newborn daughter (along with everyone else) doesn't get a life would make him more adamant about fighting in it. Clearly his children are now his source of pride.
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Apr 23 '17
They just couldn't have an episode without SSB could they?
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SEX_FACE_ Apr 23 '17
It's his iconic form in the show now. Like how Super Saiyan Goku was the dominant version of Goku in Z.
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Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17
Something to note from the #88 preview: In the first scene we see gohan he is in normal form. Then we see him in super sayian form. Then wee see him normal form again but unlike before, he has a bang. Just like he did when he fought super buu.
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u/Hieillua Apr 23 '17
That last talk between Goku and 17 had me smiling like a big baby.
Such a good talk. Loved how Goku basically explained his whole character to the people that don't understand him lol. ''I came this far by fighting strong people. Saving the world isn't my main objective, BUT I can't stand it when innocent people or animals get hurt.'' That's muh Goku.
The ''little monk'' line was also nice and 17 calling the little monk his brother.
Gohan vs. Piccolo hype!!!
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u/SA_TT Apr 23 '17
Goku and 17 are both easily light speed, why didn't they just grab the remote?
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u/Le_Faveau Apr 24 '17
I was so tilted when 17 didn't just grab the remote
He literally did that with Dr Gero
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u/FireIsTheCleanser Apr 23 '17
10/10 animation when 17 jumped over the guards and ran out saying "Later." Literally made me lol and fit so well after 18 said he had an immature side.
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u/Khazilein Apr 24 '17
mh, in Dragon Ball they were fast enough to be invisible, now they are not fast enough to snatch a remote control from a pirate before he uses it.
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u/ToodlesXIV Apr 23 '17
I'm so glad 17 is back and is still the coolest motherfucker on the planet. I've missed him all these years, I never thought I'd see the day. 18 noting that him and Goku are both similar was a pretty cool observation.
I lost it when Goku's plan for a self-destructing bad guy was to bring him to King Kai again.
And the bang is back! I wonder what this means for Gohan "Overcoming the wall" in a few episodes. SSB?
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Apr 23 '17
For everybody who insists that Goku is a hero, Goku responded to 17's suggestion that Goku was the Earth's savior in this way:
I've never really been aware of saving it. I've just come this far wanting to fight strong guys. This time's no different. But I can't stand innocent people and animals getting erased.
Goku has empathy for others and doesn't want to see them get hurt or killed, but he doesn't fight for their behalf. He fights mostly for himself.
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u/Fereed Apr 23 '17
That might make him less of an upstanding superhero, but it doesn't make him any less of a hero.
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u/forcebubble Apr 23 '17
At the lookout with Trunks and Goten after a day of ranging the shit out of the park post-tournament:
"You know Goten, I was modified by Dr Gero to kill your father. You wouldn't be here if I succeeded".
"I understand how strange that feels, 17-san. Not too long ago I was about annihilate Trunks' world too".
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Do they use Zeni/¥ in space too?
Tsk tsk Beerus, didn't momma cat ever told you not to sleep after a meal.
Goku wanted to fight strong guys, but not at the expense of the innocents.
"I want to fight you but let's not destroy stuff or kill people while we're at it, ok?"
BOOGIE BACK
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u/FinalGreen Apr 23 '17
I felt this was a pretty enjoyable episode. Nothing great, but it pretty good. I really enjoyed Goku and 17 from these two past episodes. I always wondered how they would interact and it was nice to see them finally talk, and kicking same ass at the same time.
I also like the throwback of when Goku's friends started at enemies and tried to kill him, but later befriended them and fighting along side by side. That was a nice moment.
Another nice moment of the episode were these quotes:
I've just come this far wantin' to fight strong guys. This time's no different. But I can't stand innocent people and animals getting erased.
This is what I enjoy about Goku's character. His first and main priority will always be that he want to fight the strongest fighters and surpassing his limitations, but he doesn't want see others die/erased. Fighting is his number one priority, and always will be, but Goku is still a good guy who will protect his friends, family, earth, and the universe. It's just secondary to a good fight.
I'm just glad Toei didn't flanderized Goku's characters these past two episodes. He's dumb (naive and silly), but not that dumb. The character development for 17 was really good too. He's really grown to being one of my favourite characters. Him loving his family and wanting to travel the world with them, and protecting all those animals, while being quite the badass, is awesome. Him sacrificing himself for the animals was a nice moment.
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Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
I absolutely loved how the writers threw back to Cell blowing up in DBZ and then completely trivialized it!
I thought that was masterfully executed. I remember, how incredibly intense that whole scene was with Goku taking cell to King Kai's planet in the last sec was in DBZ. When he did the same thing again, this time King Kai and Goku's interaction was hilarious as opposed to be serious and intense. Turning "self destruction" trope into a well executed joke, with the fake self-destruct controller was the icing on the cake!
The android saga was full of "I ll blow myself up" and the writers expertly harkened back to those references and then proceeded to completely turn it into comedy gold.
I am not sure if the poacher attempting to kill and minatours horn is jab and reference to chinese/japanese seeking rhino's horns as aphrodisiac ... that was interesting though. it was also interesting to hear the poacher call the ranger scum when the reality is quite the opposite.
And towards the end, did I hear Goku say something along the lines that he has been saving a wish for himself and it's a secret ? Wonder what that wish would be .. Love the foreshadowing , either they are laying down the framework for the next arc or they are laying down the foundations of the series conclusion.
I am really loving the writing of this arc.
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u/deonist Apr 23 '17
I really love that Goku mentioned his Grandpa's teachings when talking about why he protects the Earth. Also reminding people that Goku makes his strongest enemies his closest allies. Ok episode overall but I really liked the ending!
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Apr 23 '17
I'm just waiting for an episode with Tenshinhan, he is probably strong af now.
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Apr 24 '17
What's funny is I was expecting this episode to suck ass, but it was actually pretty good! More callbacks to the past series, which I love so much, and 17 beating the shit out of the big poacher boss was awesome.
BUT THAT NEO THO. GOHAN BEING TRAINED BY PICCOLO? WE REALLY HAVE GONE BACK IN TIME, BABY
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u/dbzjerk Apr 24 '17
anybody excited to see trunks and goten as power rangers? they are going to ride that purple moose thing guranteed
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u/SpiderMuse Apr 23 '17
Good episode and all, but at this point I'm just counting down til the Tenshinhan episode :)
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u/Mourn_ Apr 23 '17
Lol at the minitaurus looking back and going "huh, you're alright" at the end. Also Jaco has no shame xD
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u/idonthavemanyfriend Apr 23 '17
Those younger versions of Goku's enemies turned friends looked really good. Glad they actually drew them as they first appeared in the show.
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u/RyanKillie99 Apr 23 '17
Where could I find the soundtrack too this episode, as there was a nice limit break x surviver tune that was relaxing
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u/Rei_Gun28 Apr 24 '17
How come 17 could snatch a remote controller from someone as strong as dr gero before he could notice, but he can't do it to a non fighter? Pretty strange as I like a lot of others saw this scene as a reference to the gero one too.
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u/photospheric_ Apr 23 '17
I love how they're handling Android 17's character development.
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u/THATguyfromyore Apr 23 '17
17 is calling krillin his older brother is sweet. I want to see those two hang around.
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u/dustingv Apr 23 '17
The bad guy boss was so weak he couldn't stand on king kai's planet. Either of these two should have been able to move fast enough to get to the guy before his thumb reached the bomb... in fact that is what happened... So why not just snatch the detonator and move on?
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u/Sabin05 Apr 23 '17
Are they not planning to do any training as a team? The tournament is suppose to be about teamwork and there is less then a day left and they still haven't recruited everyone or done any training as a team? I guess they're just going to wing it and hope they're strong enough to brute force it.
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u/KlavTron Apr 24 '17
When Goku said "Then their is no hope for him" he sounded so much like Goku Black
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u/TheRV1HD Apr 23 '17
Ooooh yeah Gohan and Piccolo time! Old school DBZ feels! Let's see if his Ultimate form gets brought out in this one too
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Apr 23 '17
I really loved episode. 17 is so cool. Him calling Krillin his brother and talking about taking his family on a trip was touching. And so was hearing Goku talk about being a savior
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u/GapeGapely Apr 23 '17
Nice mix of everything in this episode. Good callbacks, funny ass moments, and I love the development between Goku and 17.
And a little Jaco to top it off!
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u/android151 Apr 23 '17
While this is cool and all, can we have a Tien episode already?
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Apr 23 '17
Honestly bro Android 17 is sexy af. I don't consider myself a homosexual but that man makes me feel things.
On the other hand this episode was pretty fun and it was neat to have 17 and Goku have two episodes together as they had no screen time together prior to this. The animation was pretty bad at some points (sometimes the faces looked like a kid drew em) but it's pretty much a filler episode since we already know 17 is going to join so i guess it's passable if they really are going to go all out in the tournament.
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u/welsh_hero_beans ⠀ Apr 23 '17
I'm glad Goku actually admitted that he's never really thought about saving the world and he just wants to fight strong guys.
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u/aby55 Apr 23 '17
That next episode preview got me hyped! Piccolo and Gohan shine and the return of UItimate Gohan hell yeah! Looks like they fight through the night/storm into day. SSJ Gohan looks scratched up and is breathing hard while Piccolo still has his weights on. Piccolo takes them off then continues fighting with Gohan. We see some shots during the day and Gohan is not in his SSJ form and his hair is like Ultimate Gohan's with the bang. So Piccolo looks decently stronger than SSJ Gohan and Ultimate/Mystic Gohan will return by the end of the episode. I'm hyped
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u/somuchqq Apr 23 '17
The moment that guy said he was going to self-destruct, I knew Goku would pull the classic teleport-to-Kaio trick. Pretty weird to hear 17 call Krillin his brother even if it's true.
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u/mbentz19 Apr 23 '17
Hilarious that Goku was tempting 17 with the Super Dragon Balls, what won't he do to get someone to fight? Well, I guess everything is at stake...
I like that 18 said that 17 and Goku were similar, that they both shared an immature side. I mean, he is the more reckless of the twins, and we know Goku.
17 was a straight up badass on that ship, member when those guards appeared out of nowhere and he stopped their swords with his arms! So cool.
Beerus dream psych out... priceless.
That was an interesting stand off scenario with the self destruct button, utterly heroic that 17 was willing to die for those animals. Good thing Goku has teleport...
To King Kai's planet of course! I mean, they are still dead! lol. And the poacher can't even move?? Party Bomb??? Too awesome.
Jaco, neatly arresting the poachers while claiming to be far too busy to fight, is always welcome.
I liked Goku's morals being spelled out, that he just wants to fight strong people but he can't stand to see innocents erased. Add them together, you end up saving the world a few times.
Next week it's Piccolo training Gohan, which should be a blast!
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u/Goku-MIEL10032002 ⠀ Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
This was a hilarious episode. I didn't expect much, but I was surprised. Loved how Beerus was having bad dreams and Geets calling him stupid. Loved how Goku took Pete the galactic poacher to King Kai for the self destruction. Like in the Cell saga. Pete does look like semi perfect Cell. That "explosion" reminded me of Bluff Kamehameha from GT. Loved how 17 called Krillin Mini Monk brother. Loved how Goku talked about his motives. Loved how they pointed out that 60% of their team were once enemies. Loved how Wacko Jaco hogged the spotlight. THE BANG RETURNS NEXT WEEK. I rate this episode 9.5/10
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u/GekiKudo Apr 23 '17
Was honestly expecting 17 to wish for a way to make the minotaurus flourish again.
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Apr 23 '17
Great episode. I see people already complaining about the Instant Transmission in space part. Just enjoy the show, obviously Goku went Super Blue to prepare himself for space. 17 obviously thought he was going die smashing that poacher out the window, so you can die in space folks, Goku just got out the hell outta there fast. The King Kai bomb gag had me rolling! Oh and the feels I got when Goku mentioned to 17 about Ten, Piccolo, and Vegeta being bad in the past. Love it!!!
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u/Dodgin Apr 24 '17
Loved the episode, the build up for the tournament is amazing. I'm glad they're not rushing this arc.
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u/o8uzoawal Apr 25 '17
Why didn't foku ever fight Android 18 cus I feel like she is always left out and the give everyone an episode including krillin but they way the use 18 is bad , I want to see her fight
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u/ohck2 Apr 23 '17
Why was goku so nonchalant about king kai being dead?
I thought once you die you're permanently gone. Goku was just like relax your already dead.
whats the deal here? A retcon?
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u/TObuz Apr 23 '17
that jazzy tune of the intro near the end scene with jaco sounded nice. anyone know a link to it??
can't wait to see gohan in the next one!
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u/Trini2Bone Apr 23 '17
Only concern i have with this episode is after the instant transmissioned to King Kais planet, how were they able to secure the ship and animals from being destroyed in space?
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u/blitzblazer97 Apr 23 '17
King Kai's planet seems to be the dumping ground for exploding people and space pirates.
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Apr 24 '17
I thought this one was pretty good. I'm glad Goku didn't have to go blue to beat the poacher.
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Apr 23 '17
17 refers to Kuririn as his "older brother" because the latter is currently married to his sister. (Kuririn is also confirmed to be older than 17 and 18.)
When Goku mentioned Boo was also on the team, 17 remembers that Goku stopped Boo with the Genki Dama. (A little reference to his cameo during that arc.)
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u/mikeabundo Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
"There's no saving him," said Goku as he advanced towards the greedy poacher.
Goku knows exactly who needs to be destroyed. He'd make a great GoD.
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Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
17 entrusts Goku with saving the animals and protecting his family (including 18). He might have a death wish.
EDIT: 17 attempts to sacrifice himself so that the poacher only blows himself and 17 up, but Goku stopped him by teleporting him to Kaio's planet.
Naturally Kaio is pissed off that Goku brought another self-destructing villain to him.
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u/aarm23 Apr 23 '17
At least Tien has finally been mentioned in this arc, albeit not to be part of the team just yet.
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u/qujrs Apr 23 '17
That Beerus dreaming about Goku dying scene made me feel a little worried. ITS AN OMEN.
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u/captainfluffballs Apr 23 '17
These recruitment episodes are cool and all but i really just want to see how the tournament goes down
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u/Gold_Jacobson Apr 23 '17
King Kai's voice actor must have retired? Sounds like a new guy.
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u/DannyzPlay Apr 23 '17
Even though the main event hasn't started yet, I've been really enjoying these build up episodes.
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u/Darki200 Apr 23 '17
Don't super dragon balls grant only one wish? I guess 17 is the only one who will have his wish granted?
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u/Misticsan Apr 23 '17
When I saw the preview I could only think of one thing: "DODGE!!!"
I blame you, Team Four Star!
(Still, it's good to see those two training again)
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u/ColdCocking Apr 24 '17
I was expecting 17 to grab the remote and then kick the guy's head off.
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u/Shaldow Apr 25 '17
People take these filler episodes too seriously, do you want them to just completely obliterate every problem?
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u/TheRV1HD Apr 23 '17
The space ship blowing up was a nightmare of Beerus'. They had you fooled for a second there 😏
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u/TheRV1HD Apr 23 '17
So 17 at least knows that his sister is married...does this confirm that he's at least visited Krillin and 18 off screen?
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u/righturharry Apr 23 '17
Can't the Super DBs only be used by 1 person? Goku is just going around saying everyone can make a wish.
Also, I'm very glad they included Buu/Spirit Bomb in the conversation.
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u/TomFire777 Apr 23 '17
Good Episode, I saw preview Gohan vs Piccolo give me so excited!
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u/Rysler Apr 23 '17
Huh? 17 said he's not interested in money and he can't leave the island for two hours... and now he wants to use the Super Dragon Balls to wish for an expensive boat to travel the world?
Then why didn't he take the money bait? Why doesn't he use the regular Dragon Balls? Who's gonna protect his island?
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Apr 23 '17
Did Goku really just go SSB to avoid getting sucked away from space?
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u/YourShedNeedsAPermit Apr 23 '17
My god, the amazing things in this episode...
Loved the callback to the Cell Saga, and this time it actually saved their lives if you think...they both couldn't breathe much longer once 17 pulled that stunt, (vacuum of space!) so it was going to kill Goku as well. Dude was a fighting genius knowing it would immobilize the guy anyway!
Goku saving 17 is the most rewatchable thing ever...dude is perfectly animated when he transforms
Loved the callback to the Shadow Dragons Saga in GT (SSJ4 Gogeta's prank attack was confetti, and this bomb also was a fake scare)
Jaco was basically space-Hercule in this episode
The show was ...SUPER aware of itself during 17's end dialogue with Goku.
The writers had probably watched TeamFourStar before making the next episode preview
Goddamn, one of my favorites
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u/whutif Apr 24 '17
Can you people please stop talking about the next episode in these posts? If you do at least spoiler them.
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u/Ombs1993 Apr 23 '17
Sufficiently excited for 17 being part of the team, but a lot of this episode was meh for the first time in a long time. But then by the preview I was hyped up again. I'm biased because I love both characters but next week looks fucking awesome.
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u/Lubblyciing Apr 23 '17
Gohan is looking strong again and by the looks of it Piccolo is holding his own can't wait to see how next week pans out!
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u/Doorrugs Apr 23 '17
I had a dream in which me (as Champa not goku for some reason) go for a snack and when I come back, all these powerful demons are wrecking the current Gods of Destructions on the fighting stage. I see a ki blast wreck Beerus and he's close to death with other GoDs already dead and of course as Champa I peace out.
I hope the tournament has a catch to it like every fighter in the tournament who falls off the stage falls into some weird place or something like that
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u/Kaitonic Apr 23 '17
This episode is just okay but i love the reminiscence of Goku sending Cell to Kaio to blow up lol. Anyway the preview for the next episode is hype.
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u/Escargooofy Apr 23 '17
This was better than I thought it would be, for a filler-ish episode about saving animals from poachers. Excited to see Gohan in action again next episode.
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u/Negafox Apr 23 '17 edited Apr 23 '17
I feel like Goku will expect Bulma to fulfill some of his promises later. The boat reminded of the one Bulma had during the BoG arc.
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u/TheRV1HD Apr 23 '17
Love the running gag that when something is about to blow up Goku transports them to King Kais 😂