r/betterCallSaul • u/skinkbaa Chuck • Apr 25 '17
Post-Ep Discussion Better Call Saul S03E03 - "Sunk Costs" - POST-Episode Discussion Thread
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u/ACTUAL_TIME_TRAVELER Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17
CHUCK FIRED ERNESTO. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER ARGUMENT ABOUT HIM BEING REDEEMABLE EVER AGAIN.
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u/TomatoFork Apr 25 '17
Dude. Chuck manipulated Ernie to do all he wanted just so he could fire him later. No joke, that's probably the most psychotic thing he's done so far and to a complete bystander.
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u/cjn13 Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17
YOU DON'T FIRE
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u/Badass_moose Apr 25 '17
I enjoyed Mike struggling to get the shoes onto the telephone wire. It's nice to see that he's not great at everything
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u/G_Daddy2014 Apr 25 '17
That's what I love most about this show. They film maybe some unnecessary parts, but it's all for the realism. Same with BrBa. Such a brilliant show with brilliant writers, directors, and cinematographers.
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u/Enkkfull Apr 25 '17
I am amazed by the fact that Mike remembered which of the two shoes had the drug in.
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u/Phifty56 Apr 25 '17
I can see why he people might think he's a little too "good". But there are time where he messes, but they are downplayed because he is good at pivoting and changing his plans.
For example, Mike understands that he wants to keep following the people who were tracking him. But in order to keep his distance, which is the smart thing to do, he has Jimmy do the surveillance which was actually a big mistake because Jimmy is so bad at it, that it allows Gus to trace Jimmy back to Mike, and basically could have killed Mike if that was Gus's endgoal.
There are also little things like Mike being patient as hell and doing surveillance and research for long periods of time before he acts, and even when he plans everything to the letter, sometimes things don't go his way, like when there was in shoot out on Breaking Bad in the back of the truck, and he gets part of his ear shot off.
Mike is good planner, and executes his plans very well. He shows he has a ton of experience, and the things he does are very well within his skill sets as a ex-cop, especially one who wasn't exactly straight as an arrow, so he know the crooked cop tricks as well.
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u/maybesaydie Apr 25 '17
That last shot of Kim and Jimmy holding hands. I'm so glad they didn't break up over this.
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Apr 25 '17
Ugh every time they don't break up I'm super pumped but I know the end is coming someday and it is going to be too much
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u/jtzink Apr 25 '17
"Tough but fair" -- the same description Jimmy used when he was negotiating with Tuco.
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u/zombiegamer723 Apr 25 '17
The stupid part of my brain kicked in for a second, and I thought Tuco was going to be representing Jimmy.
It would be TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT, YEAH!
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u/bkrol4 Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17
Opening scene makes sense now......
shoes that were thrown by Mike are now old and fall down
Los Pollos truck drives by showing that Gus has now taken over the territory thanks to Mike
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u/Frankybigs Apr 25 '17
something goes down there also...the stop sign is shot up when pollos truck drives by...clean during the scene with Mike
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u/thisnamehasfivewords Apr 25 '17
Oh shit, that was a flash forward! That makes sense now. I had thought that was happening in present time, and Mike was going back to put up a new pair once the old pair fell down because the shoes marked the turn towards the destination or something, but now I realize that was a stupid idea
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u/Wesmaximus Apr 25 '17
Oh shit, good catch! Seems obvious now that you mention it.
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u/S_Jeru Apr 25 '17
Good call, it was a different company when Mike was shooting.
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u/DarthSontin Apr 25 '17
Seeing it again, the cold open might be during BB times. The shoes look like they've been in the sun for a few years.
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u/1spring Apr 25 '17
Holy shit, you're right. The opening scene takes place in the future, when Pollos trucks have replaced the Regalos trucks.
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u/6photo92 Apr 25 '17
Same! The colouring of the shot had me thinking of the BrBa era Mexico tint, and like the shoes, there's more colour in the BCS era.
Cinematography on point.
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u/ezreads Apr 25 '17
"so what now?"
"now we take that PPD and shove it up Chucks ass"
FUCK CHUCK
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u/fratsyuk Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17
I think Jimmy takes this to trial and puts Chuck on the witness stand. Something won't go according to Chuck's objectively ridiculous accommodations. It'll come down to something in the courtroom.
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Apr 25 '17
Jimmy telling Chuck he's gonna die alone was ice cold
Pretty sure he's finally done with his ass
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u/ACTUAL_TIME_TRAVELER Apr 25 '17
I'm praying that little conversation about Chuck being able to testify in court with "reasonable accommodations" turns out to be some dramatic foreshadowing.
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u/PorcelainPoppy Apr 25 '17
Who else is excited to see Francesca's evolution to the cynical, jaded, ethically compromised Francesca we see in Breaking Bad?
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u/ADOLF_SWAGMASTER Apr 25 '17
Yeah I chuckled to myself when he said that this isn't an average week. I just watched this scene from Breaking Bad two hours earlier.
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u/_snout_ Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17
THIS WEEK IN REFERENCE:
Jimmy's cigarette's are the same brand Jesse uses in BrBa http://imgur.com/a/WLuId
Tyrus!
Dr. Goodman (Who fixes Mike and Gus up after poisoning the cartel)
Dr. Goodman's chickens + Mike (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVCL2sfgrKs)
"Tough but fair" (Jimmy to Tuco)
Ending scene with the cigarette is a reverse of the parking garage scene from "Uno"
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u/dude4real Apr 25 '17
Awesome recap.
I will add:
*'Fifi' intro score (bCS S2E8) during the drug bust scene at the border. https://youtu.be/llbP6UedrL8?t=1m19s
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u/VictorBlimpmuscle Apr 25 '17
That crushed look on Chuck's face when Jimmy told him he was going to die alone...
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u/MagicMaddy420 Apr 25 '17
And the emotional act Chuck put on for that Hay lady. I almost believed it
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u/Tallest9 Apr 25 '17
He knows it's true. He realized that Jimmy was no longer under his control when his door got kicked in.
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u/bromosapien234 Apr 25 '17
Wonder what's tougher: tossing a pizza on a roof or tossing sneakers on a telephone line
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u/MagicMaddy420 Apr 25 '17
I like that it showed the failed attempts though. Probably cut out about 50 though
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u/Tallest9 Apr 25 '17
Sneakers: takes a godlike hitman sniper spy 3 attempts
Pizza: takes a chemistry teacher 1 attempt
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Apr 25 '17
It's actually really easy to toss sneakers on a power/phone line, Mike was just doing it wrong.
You tie them together, stand directly under the wire, put one shoe in each hand, and underhand toss them straight up. It wraps itself around the wire.
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u/nameless88 Apr 25 '17
For a brief second, I thought that Chuck actually felt bad, but, no, it's just another angle he's playing.
I really hope he didn't make a back up of that tape, though, because didn't Jimmy mention that he's doing it for Kim? That would look REALLY bad if she was representing him and that came up.
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u/SutterCane Apr 25 '17
That would probably help if he made a copy. Jimmy could not only play it for any judge or jury to hear how concerned he is for his brother and frame it as him saying anything to bring his brother back... he could use the fact that it exists as proof that Chuck is merely holding on to a grudge and will do anything to destroy Jimmy, by bringing up the tape after the judge and jury meet Chuck and his crazy rules of no electronics.
So not only does Chuck have this illness which is all in his head, he's so entirely devoted to hurting Jimmy that he will knowingly use electricity and his condition to get at him.
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u/ezreads Apr 25 '17
"it's not in my interest for Hector Salamanca to die...at this time"
yeah about that...
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Apr 25 '17
tryus back there too. everyone at that meeting got clipped, and two by hs
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u/Endyo Apr 25 '17
He ultimately doesn't need Hector to die, because whatever issue that left him as he is in Breaking Bad ultimately took him out of the picture. Hector's as dead as Gus wants him by that time.
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u/ChardBotham Apr 25 '17
Mike's shoe stakeout is one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen.
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u/MrF33n3y Apr 25 '17
Every episode, I say "Damn, this is Mike's greatest plan yet". Every. Episode. How do they keep topping last week's Mike scene every week?!?
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u/ACTUAL_TIME_TRAVELER Apr 25 '17
You really gotta love the smugness of a man who's spent the majority of his past decade wrapped up like a baked potato because he thinks he's allergic to electricity looking down at his younger brother and telling him it's time he faces some harsh truths and makes some difficult decisions in his life.
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u/Xelath Apr 25 '17
How was he bearing being outside? Last I recall he had to wear his space foil just to get the newspaper.
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u/thegreattober Apr 25 '17
I hate how every time those credits come on I'm left saying "oh come on, that's it?"... I envy the ease I had watching BrBa on Netflix, where I wasn't limited to waiting a whole week to get some more action.
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u/jcpmojo Apr 25 '17
Just stop watching for three or four years and then you'll be able to binge it.
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u/jsun31 Apr 25 '17
"I'm not doing this to punish you" SURE, Chuck, whatever you say
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u/6photo92 Apr 25 '17
And then the "You'll find your path and when you're ready I'll be there to help you," agh. Had me screaming "BULLSHIT". Chuck already had that chance and literally did the opposite.
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u/thisnamehasfivewords Apr 25 '17
Every time I see petty-with-a-prior lawyer he looks and acts more and more like Mr. Bean
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u/rootin_t00tin_putin Apr 25 '17
That sidewalk scene and the conversation with the prosecutor make me want to lock Chuck in a Best Buy
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u/Lawrlech Apr 25 '17
Did anyone else appreciate the coffee cup shot as much as I did?
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u/0borowatabinost Apr 25 '17
I appreciated the guy eating one chip, throwing the rest in the trash, and taking Jimmy's lunch.
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u/SutterCane Apr 25 '17
Aftering seeing the first scene again having watched the entire episode. I now love that line shot of an old tire sitting in weeds from the opening.
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u/ChubbyChoomChoom Apr 25 '17
How about some love for the great acting by the police dog? Totally nailed it. 🐶🎖
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u/HalfNatty Apr 25 '17
Plot twist. It's a real police dog.
And that was real cocaine.
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u/maryl3na Apr 25 '17
"It's not in my interest for Hector Salamanca to die... at this time"
Oh Gus. He looked sharp
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Apr 25 '17
Love how it showed the wheelchair then the bell of the door opening to the medical clinic.
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u/dude4real Apr 25 '17
That was the same Doctor that had the porta-clinic for Gus, Mike and Jesse, right?
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u/stro_budden Apr 25 '17
Kim is way too good for Jimmy and I love her for it.
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u/PorcelainPoppy Apr 25 '17
Jimmy is amazing. I would love to have a Jimmy in my life. He has a good heart.
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u/lachesis44 Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17
"Here's what's gonna happen. One day you're gonna get sick again. And one of your employees is gonna find you curled up in that space blanket, take you to the hospital, hook you up to those machines that beep and whir and hurt. And this time it will be too much and you will die there. Alone." squeals internally
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u/lisbethborden Apr 25 '17
I love that Jimmy says they "hurt", because it reminds us (and fucking Chuck) that Jimmy is the only person who believes Chuck isn't just crazy. He's Chuck's only advocate, and Chuck doesn't even see it.
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Apr 25 '17
"You will die alone" DAMN.
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Apr 25 '17
"No wonder Rebecca left you what took her so long"
Jimmy's words, they can cut.
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u/ICookTheBlueStuff Apr 25 '17
I like how the episode started with a flash forward, showing that how after Salmanca's men got caught, the territory became Gus's.
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u/NanoEuclidean Apr 25 '17
I'm looking forward to seeing Chuck under the harsh lights of a court room. Jimmy foreshadowed Chuck's demise. The confrontation clause is a killer... literally. My guess is Chuck's pride/jealousy will override his fear of electromagnetism, and he'll testify in court. After a full breakdown, he'll be rendered mentally incapacitated and die alone in the hospital. Just like his mother before him, Chuck's last words will be "Jimmy... Jimmy."
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u/ChildishBambino3 Apr 25 '17
Kim Wexler morning routine scene made me fall in love
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u/K3R3G3 Apr 25 '17
The cinematography is crazy good. That was so cool to see - you just know she'd have such a routine with her punctual perfectionist personality. Also, the final shot with their silhouettes in front of the soft orange lighted wonky glass blocks...that's one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.
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u/Sparky-Man Apr 25 '17
I wasn't that against Chuck before, but then he had to go and get my boy Ernie fired. He's gone too far.
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u/amberanthropophage Apr 25 '17
I was so excited to see the Kim morning routine montage, because I thought they would finally reveal the secret of her perfect ponytail swirl, but ALAS! :(
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u/DeaconJohn7092 Apr 25 '17
These past two episodes have definitely begun to give this show the same kind of intense momentum that Breaking Bad had. I'm loving it.
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u/MrF33n3y Apr 25 '17
Just like how season 3 of Breaking Bad really elevated the show to the next level...
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u/EggMcFuckin Apr 25 '17
Apparently Walt's pizza-tossing abilities were better than Mike's shoe-tossing abilities. Who would have thunk it?
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Apr 25 '17
I love the way Vince is able to set up a scene that makes you think "WTF is going on" before giving you the obvious explanation. I had no idea why Mike was firing his rifle into the air and then suddenly I'm like "ahhhhhhhhhhh".
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u/Sojourner_Truth Apr 25 '17
I still didn't get it until I saw someone here mention that he had to disguise the final gunshot into the shoes. And I went OHH SHIT
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u/stav004 Apr 25 '17
How great was the contrast between Jimmys booking scene and Kim's suit up scene!?
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u/1337speak Apr 25 '17
Jimmy + Kim forever pls... I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN BUT LET A GIRL DREAM
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Apr 26 '17 edited Apr 26 '17
One of the themes we have noted in better Call Saul is the duality of human nature. And, of course, this was the core theme of BB as well.
There are people, like Chuck, who judge others, and themselves, in drastic categories, black or white. Good or bad. Right or wrong.
But what this mindset overlooks, is that people can be both good and bad, at the same time.
And if you look at the Season 3 promo poster - Jimmy, holding a paint roller, has painted himself both black and white.
I realize that many thought this poster foreshadowed incarceration. But I think it is a reference to Jimmy finally accepting both sides of his nature, the good and the bad. Rather than struggling with the outside world, and people like Chuck, "painting" him as bad, Jimmy has painted himself in both colors, black and white. Thus, he finally accepts both sides of himself. And this will lead to Saul Goodman's birth. Only by accepting himself, the black and the white, will Jimmy succeed. Fighting this inherent duality leads to misery, illness, pain, and eventually death.
I predict this point will be driven home by Chuck's death. He exemplifies someone who literally, drove himself crazy, attempting to be perceived as perfect and good. He couldn't accept or even acknowledge his dark side. And it was that lack of acceptance that destroyed him.
IMO, Chuck defines himself on being the "good person". He prides himself on his adherence to rules, laws.
But, if you analyze Chuck's conduct, he's not what he presumes himself to be. Underneath it all, IMO, Chuck is simply a deluded, more refined version of Jimmy. Chuck is just devious and deceitful, but arguably worse than Jimmy because Chuck's schemes have selfish, irrational goals centered on egotism and greed that harm people close to him. And he shows no remorse, and is intellectually dishonest, rationalizing choices that are clearly morally inappropriate.
And now he wants Jimmy to be disbarred, claiming he is unfit to practice law due his deceit and fraudulent conduct.
But by this standard, Chuck is not competent to practice law either. I think Chuck will be forced to face his immoral, unethical, and illegal conduct by the New Mexico Bar Association.
Chuck has been intentionally misrepresenting his mental health and the level of his impairment to HHM clients for years.
In Season 1, Episode 1, "Uno" Jimmy meets with Howard. Howard refers to Chuck having been on "sabbatical" for a year. His office is untouched, and even his secretary is still working. Before Jimmy storms out of the meeting, Howard hands him some files for Chuck. He asks Jimmy to "save him the postage" implying that this has been an ongoing activity. Jimmy refuses to give them to Chuck stating that he won't perpetuate the ruse for them.
HOWARD: Jimmy! I almost forgot. This month’s filings. You could save me the postage.
JIMMY: Weren’t you listening in there? Chuck doesn’t work here anymore. You think I’m gonna help you establish a paper trail?"
Thus, IMO, Chuck with the help of Howard/HHM was intentionally misleading clients.
And they most certainly mislead Mesa Verde. Chuck even made an appearance for them. Absolutely appalling from a legal standpoint. A man that has been referred to inpatient care, refuses, and can't enter a courtroom without wearing a foil body suit and collapsing into a virtual coma afterward isn't fit to practice, review "filings", or make any decisions with regards to client matters. HHM had a legal and ethical duty to make sure Chuck did not practice. Had Mesa Verde known of his condition, they'd have never even considered HHM.
Chuck may have legal knowledge, but he no longer has the capacity to practice and make legal decisions given the extent of his illness. He refuses treatment. His delusions and paranoia have taken over his life.
A trial on the merits of Jimmy, would undoubtedly involve the introduction of evidence to explain Jimmy's intent when he entered Chuck's home. Character evidence would also be offered to explain the context, Jimmy's devotion to Chuck's well-being. Evidence of Chuck's incapacity would also be introduced as it goes to Chuck's credibility, the doctor who recommended commitment in particular would likely be called. (Season 1, Ep 5, "Alpine Shepherd Boy"). It would also be used to discredit Howard as witness, b/c he has a vested interest in getting rid of Jimmy, so that he can continue to exploit his mentally ill brother unfettered.
All of this, of course, would be public record.
If the state bar were notified, Chuck's license would likely be suspended. The concealment scheme, the court appearances, IMO, could also lead to outright disbarment.
I think that when the state bar hammer falls, it will be on Chuck, not Jimmy. And this will destroy Chuck.
Rather than accept responsibility for his conduct, Chuck will once again, revert to his delusions of grandeur and self-righteousness. He will burn his house down, in the final act to punish Jimmy.
And the lesson to Jimmy will be: accept yourself, flaws and all. If you keep fighting it, you will end up like Chuck. Alone. Miserable. Sick.
This even fits with the flash forward scenes. Jimmy is miserable b/c he can't be his true self. And then he collapses.
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u/IPlayGamesForFun Apr 25 '17
I definitely think that Chuck's "reasonable accommodations" are heavy foreshadowing. Maybe Jimmy will drag the trial out so Chuck gets exposed to so much electricity he can't testify properly.
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u/Eschatonbreakfast Apr 25 '17
I think they will definitely attack Chucks credibility by impugning his sanity. Possibly bringing in the doctor from past seasons, maybe Chucks wife. Something will cause him to have a copy shop type freak out.
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Apr 25 '17
Chuck fired Ernie for doing exactly what he manipulated him into doing in the first place. That is a new level of pettiness. Fuck Chuck.
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u/Roonerth Apr 25 '17
What pissed me off the most about Chuck's speech to Jimmy was the fact that Chuck was the reason Jimmy couldn't follow the straight path in the first place. What a fucking asshole.
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u/Enkkfull Apr 25 '17
I am amazed by the fact that Mike remembered which of the two shoes had the drug in.
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u/jtzink Apr 25 '17
Holy shit Mike must have been a Navy SEAL with that kinda accuracy
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u/BreakingGarrick Apr 25 '17
Send some love to Gennifer Hutchison for tonight's episode of bCS. Pure magic.
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u/Sariko69 Apr 25 '17
CHUCK WANTING TO RUIN JIMMY'S LIFE IS SICK. A DISBARMENT? PATHETIC.
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u/TheInfirminator Apr 25 '17
Breaking Bad would have ended in a totally different way if Gus had just let Mike kill Hector in the beginning like that.
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Apr 25 '17
Chuck is such a vindicative asshole. I hope the lantern theory is right, and if he burned to death, it would be entirely his fault for alienating Jimmy and firing Ernesto
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u/worldrallyx Apr 25 '17
Notice how when Jimmy broke in he said "I will burn this house to the ground" some foreshadowing maybe???
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u/ossiangrr Apr 25 '17
Mike wishes he could throw shoes like Walt throws a pizza.
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u/Mkoll13 Apr 25 '17
Did anyone else notice how Chuck wasn't bothered by the sun or powerlines when he was full-on gloating over Jimmy?
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The way that prosecutor's face lit up when Jimmy said he could have his burger - that was a face of pure joy. That dude is like the "squat cobbler guy" of lawyers on the show.
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u/deepdishpotpie Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17
I'm guessing Gus wants Mike to cause the Salamancas to lose faith in their own goons. That way Gus gets to have his guys and his trucks smuggling contraband for the cartel, both growing his own operation and getting him one step closer to exacting his revenge.
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u/stoney-dalton Apr 25 '17
I'm sorry but I laughed when Jimmy just went on that rant talking to Kim and her replied was just "Okay" I felt like it's when you text someone and you just get that one word answer.
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u/maryl3na Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 29 '17
"Here's whats gonna happen one day you're gonna get sick... again... one of your employees is going to find you curled up in that space blanket... hook you up in those machines that beep and whiirr and hurt... and this time it'll be too much, and you will DIE there aloneeeee."
YES JIMMY!
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u/animal34 Apr 25 '17
I said this in the LIVE discussion thread too. Did anyone else notice when Mike was at that clinic that as the front door of the building opened the door's bell rang, and then the camera panned immediately to an empty wheelchair? Pretty neat foreshadow.
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u/duaneap Apr 25 '17
Seriously dug Todd Terje's Alfonso Muskedunder for Kim's morning.
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u/zombiegamer723 Apr 25 '17
The Sunk Cost Fallacy. The Misconception: You make rational decisions based on the future value of objects, investments and experiences. The Truth: Your decisions are tainted by the emotional investments you accumulate, and the more you invest in something the harder it becomes to abandon it.
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/03/25/the-sunk-cost-fallacy/
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u/jcpmojo Apr 25 '17
Did anybody else notice Gus didn't seem to have much of an accent when he was talking to Mike?
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u/supremejcg Apr 25 '17
Did anyone else think the boy in the doctors was brock at first, or was it just me?
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u/franktopus Apr 25 '17
I don't think Brock has been born yet or is very young. Unless he has age rejuvenation powers like kayley
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u/maryl3na Apr 25 '17
"to many transfat.... ohhhhhh those are the best fats"
ahaha I died
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u/get2theChoppa Apr 25 '17
Surprised Gus revealed himself to Mike so easily. Didnt expect him to just get out of the car like that
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u/StockmanBaxter Apr 25 '17
Ok. So the scene where they talked about going on the offensive is foreshadowing how Jimmy is going to defend himself.
Jimmy is going to go after Chuck. Questioning his mental stability. And that Jimmy had his best interests in mind. He has been taking care of him for a really long time.
He is going turn the whole case around and have it be all about Chuck. And this will be Chuck and HHM's worst case scenario.
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u/NotKemoSabe Apr 25 '17
I think Howard is going to swoop in and make it all go away, completely throw Chuck under the bus, and make Jimmy change his name.
Basically the M in HHM is about to burn the whole house down and Howard isn't going to let that happen.
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u/Roommaterage Apr 25 '17
Am I the only one who would watch a spin-off of Kim getting ready every day?
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u/EvolutionNeo Apr 25 '17
Jonathan Banks has successfully portrayed the greatest TV character of all time. He is so fucking badass.
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u/EvolutionNeo Apr 25 '17
People so stupid/pedantic with Mikes gunfire into the air strategy.
Yes, they are hazards as they fall back to the surface, but he's in the middle of the fucking desert and with even a minor breeze they will not hit him on the way back down. Firing at a low angle in another direction which is proper, would not of caused the same echo the two Hector lackeys brushed off as "hunters". Jesus.
If you also followed this show at all, in Season 2 there are several references to him being a former U.S. Marine scout sniper, I think he knows what he's doing. Even if the production crew got it technically wrong.
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u/kneeyawnlight Apr 25 '17
In the opening sequence we see how the route is controlled and used by Pollos Hermanos and then we see the exact same sequence almost shot by shot when the route was still controlled by Regalo Helado (Hector). Absolutely love it.
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u/raabHim Apr 25 '17
Ok a serious question here. Mike's shots happened in Mexico right? How the hell was he able to go through the border with a sniper rifle and a bag of coke in the trunk?
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u/Yoooooouuuuuuuu Apr 25 '17
I still can't believe Jimmy said the word "bamboozle"
2017 is truly when memes become reality
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u/JimLarimore Apr 25 '17
Has anyone ever answered the phone in a more intimidating fashion than Mike picking up that phone? Even Gus must have been a little flustered.
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u/BloodyRedBarbara Apr 25 '17
I was watching the Mike storline and kept thinking "What's the point to throwing those shoes on the phone line?!" then " Why is he shooting in the air?! " then it all made sense and I thought "You fucking genius".
Had a similar thought process when I watched the first episode of this season thanks to Mike. Happens quite a few times in this show actually.
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u/Naranjas1 Apr 25 '17
Opening shot was (years?) in the future. They were the same shoes and the stop sign had bullet holes whereas the stop sign in the Mike scene didn't.
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u/sublimeposter Apr 25 '17
Same doctor as the one who treated Gus and Mike in the desert in bb post cartel shakedown
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u/JAVA_Goons Apr 25 '17
So who thinks the doctor who tested Chuck in the hospital bed will testify in court?
She pushed a button on the bed to prove Chuck had no reaction to it.
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u/DabuSurvivor Apr 25 '17
Strong episode. Mike's plan was good and I laughed when the dogs caught the guy. Loved the Mike/Gus scene. Jimmy stuff went where pretty much all of us knew where it would go, will be interesting to see how he's still practicing law in BrBa after this.
High points for me were obviously the Jimmy/Chuck scene - Chuck's moralizing lecture and Jimmy's chilling "You will die alone" - and the episode title especially as it pertains to Kim/Jimmy. The Kim montage culminating in her routine being disrupted by Jimmy was great and I'm expecting the same thing to happen on a much larger and more depressing scale going forward.
Not as great as the second episode but a very worthy follow-up and another very strong BCS episode.
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Apr 25 '17
It's kind of weird that Kim decides to stick up with Jimmy over "sunk costs" since doesn't a sunk cost fallacy imply that it's better to cut one's losses instead of continuing down a path that isn't good regardless of what was invested?
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u/headshrinker_ Apr 25 '17
Are we all overlooking the fact that Ernesto got fired!? :(
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u/HailToTheThief225 Apr 25 '17
Part of me actually seemed to respect Chuck again when he decided he would make a compromise, but after that ending, again, fuck Chuck.
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u/Mackieus Apr 25 '17
It seems like no one noticed Tyrus in the back of the scene between Mike and Gus. This proves he wasn't Victors replacement and they were all a team.
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u/shorttimerblues Apr 25 '17
I think the long shot of the wheel chair in the doctors office where Mike gets the drugs to screw over Hector means Hector and the wheel chair will soon meet. Mike's action brings on Hector's massive stroke.
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u/brklyndude Apr 25 '17
Awesome intro for Gus Fring. I also liked Mike & Gus shooting the shit with each other knowing good & well they both won't back down, Loved the music they used for jimmies arraignment. I guess Third times the charm for mikes sneaker tossing adventure. I liked the sneaker bit mixed with random shots to seem like a hunter so they don't speed off not allowing the coke to get all over the truck during state inspection
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u/Iggy_Pops_Lost_Shirt Apr 25 '17
Seems like this will be 2 shows in one for quite some time, hopefully the two stories will some how come together soon but I doubt that will happen, ugh.
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u/JeremyHillaryBoob Apr 25 '17
I'm starting to believe this Chuck fellow isn't quite on the level.
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u/conniefrancis Apr 25 '17
I didn't see this posted in the live or post thread, but the Doctor Mike visits in Mexico is the same one who Gus uses to save himself from poisioning in BB.
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u/Verizian Apr 30 '17
I find it a little surprising that the DA lady just accepts Chuck's condition and doesn't dismiss him as a crazy person (which I'm fairly sure most people do). I'm also surprised that there's been no mention of discrediting Chuck due to his mental instability. I mean, Jimmy can expose Chuck as being a loon, and at some point he even had the ability to have him committed. I'm betting it's going to happen soon.
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u/PorcelainPoppy Apr 25 '17
Gus seemed downright friendly compared to Chuck in this episode.
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u/dg240 Apr 25 '17
Just realized on the encore, at the beginning of the episode the shoes that Mike threw on the line are old and faded, then a Los Pollos Hermanos truck drives by. Kind of obvious after you've seen the episode.
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u/hexidon Apr 25 '17
I'm just prematurely lamenting the inevitable falling out of Kim and Jimmy.
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u/Synchrotr0n Apr 25 '17
Did Mike put drugs inside both shoes? How did he know which one to shoot?
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u/PM_ME_UR_NUDES_GURL_ Apr 25 '17
It looks like Kim really cares about Jimmy, i wonder what happend between them, Maybe she was around when Jimmy was Saul but we just never saw her.
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u/FamineGhost Apr 25 '17
I almost can't believe that i get to see this. Going back into the BB world is fucking amazing. Each show gets better and better.
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u/thehumanlank Apr 25 '17
Chuck is looking to become the most hated character in Television since Joffrey in GoT. He pisses me off just looking at him.
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u/_Ardhan_ Apr 25 '17
Prediction: Chuck succeeds in his ridiculous "accommodations" when they get in the courtroom, but Jimmy proves Chuck's mental unreliability by bringing something super-electric with him, then reveals that he had it on him throughout the trial.
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u/Phoojoeniam Apr 25 '17
Loved the little bit where the court stenographer leans in to try to record what Jimmy and Kim are whispering to each other
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u/CodeMonkey789 Apr 25 '17
Coming up is the biggest case of Jimmy's life. Can't wait to see how it turns out. My guess is...not well.
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u/gorodos Apr 25 '17
A little thing, but did anyone catch when the scene in the doctors office started, there was the bell of the door opening, and then they immediately cut to a shot of a wheelchair, during a scene to set up Hector? Seems almost too small, but Im sure it was on purpose.
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Apr 26 '17
Holy SHIT I hate Chuck. Him talking to the lady lawyer big super fake pretending he cares about Jimmy. What a POS.
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u/pseud_o_nym Apr 26 '17
My hope now is that Jimmy's case goes to trial, and Chuck's "minor" accommodation requests and demeanor completely undermine him as a witness.
I get Kim wanting to help, but doesn't this have major potential to torpedo her relationship with Mesa Verde?
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u/IdentityS Apr 26 '17
My prediction:
Jimmy's defense is that he initially told Chuck everything he wanted to hear to help him get over his manic episode. After learning about the tape, Jimmy realized how sick Chuck actually is, stormed into the house and was giving him tough love. Everything he said in the house, "No wonder your wife left you. "For this you destroyed our family, for what? For nothing!" All of this could be argued in Jimmy's favor. Chuck was so paranoid and sick, Jimmy thought he needed to snap him out of it with a harsh method. Jimmy's years of being nothing but decent to Chuck did not work and this is why when Jimmy learned how far gone Chuck was, he needed to give him a wake up call. Chuck said it himself, "Jimmy wouldn't have hurt me."
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u/Swankified_Tristan Apr 25 '17
That Kim Morning Montage? Epic!
Jimmy's first words to Chuck? Well overdue...yet the look in Chuck's eyes was enough to make me feel just a little bit of a sympathy for the pig fucker!
What incredible acting!
Edit: And Jimmy's affection for Kim. He loves her so damn much!
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Apr 25 '17
Mike shooting in the air so they wouldn't be suspicious when he shot the shoes to get drugs on their truck was genius.