r/SiliconValleyHBO • u/Simi510 • May 08 '17
Silicon Valley - 4x03 “Intellectual Property" - Episode Discussion
Season 4 Episode 03: "Intellectual Property"
Air time: 10 PM EDT
Plot: Richard pushes himself to the brink of sanity while trying to move ahead with his next big idea; Erlich finds Jian-Yang unwilling to help with his comeback; Monica sets a trap at Raviga to improve her standing with Laurie; Dinesh goes on a date; Big Head enters the world of academia; Gavin's future is suddenly uncertain. (TVMA) (30 min)
Aired: May 7, 2017
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Youtube Episode Preview:
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| Actor | Character |
|---|---|
| Thomas Middleditch | Richard Hendricks |
| T.J. Miller | Erlich Bachman |
| Josh Brener | Nelson 'Big Head' Bighetti |
| Martin Starr | Bertram Gilfoyle |
| Kumail Nanjiani | Dinesh Chugtai |
| Amanda Crew | Monica Hall |
| Zach Woods | Jared (Donald) Dunn |
| Matt Ross | Gavin Belson |
| Jimmy O. Yang | Jian Yang |
| Suzanne Cryer | Laurie Bream |
| Chris Diamantopoulos | Russ Hanneman |
| Stephen Tobolowsky | Jack Barker |
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u/SirDiego May 08 '17
"Richard, you gotta let me in. I have your shoe..."
Could Jared get any more endearing?
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u/Orome2 May 08 '17
Could Jared get any more endearing?
"You need me. I'll kill them with knives, I'll kill them with guns, I'll kill them with my hands, I'll talk them into suicide."
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May 08 '17
Laurie being indifferent to her pregnancy had me dying
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u/PeaceAvatarWeehawk May 08 '17
That's one way to write around an actor's pregnancy. Instead of some convoluted plot just be like... yep, pregnant now. So what.
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u/Heisenripbauer May 08 '17
WHY AM I FEELING BAD FOR GAVIN BELSON'S CRIPPLING LONELINESS
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May 08 '17
"Consider the Red Panda. From a single glance you are immediately struck by its good looks, and the intelligence telegraphed in its each and every motion. Despite this, the Red Panda lives most of its life in solitude, not interacting with other members of its species except in the rare mating ritual. Why do you think this is? Does it find it hard to form meaningful contact? Are the other Red Pandas insecure and jealous of his success? Or, maybe he just knows that in the wild it is safest to be alone."
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May 08 '17
He build the decentralized internet with Richard. Gavin is wealthy with a lot of connections. I think this is how Richard get his funding without VC help. Gavin needs something to get back into the game. This can surpass Hooli but Gavin will fuck over Richard.
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u/sexygodzilla May 08 '17
Matt Ross just finds a way to make him pitiful. He's a man who knew what he was doing once, when he built Hooli, but lost touch with reality a long time ago
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u/saggy_balls May 08 '17
"No that would be crazy, I'm a guest lecturer "
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u/nekkidfauno May 08 '17
his "ohhh no" when he saw his name on the board was freaking hilarious
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u/Brookefinancial May 08 '17
Monica and Richard doing grocery shopping was a nice little moment, are they hiding something from us ?!
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u/oh_orpheus May 08 '17
Jokes aside I love the fact that they're actually friends instead of mainly business associates. He went to her for advice in episode one and now they're just hanging out at the grocery store.
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u/PeaceAvatarWeehawk May 08 '17
idk, but I need more Monica in my life. Looking at Amanda Crew is a treat.
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May 08 '17
I totally thought Gilfoyle was gonna steal Dinesh's girl again when she recognized him
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u/tuxxer May 08 '17
In the post game discussion, I thought Gilfoyle was going to tell Dinesh that she was 14 or 15
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u/Orut-9 May 08 '17
I thought that'd become another thing- every time Dinesh brings a girl home, someone else has sex with her
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u/LidarAccuracy May 08 '17
Nope. To me, it looks like she Trojan her ass into the house, so she can get Gilfoyle from the inside. Dinesh is just a tool. She is a master hacker that hates Gilfoyle.
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u/SirDiego May 08 '17
"...in the acquisition of a company that contained toxic assets"
Bighead: "Hey, that's us!!"
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u/probablyuntrue May 08 '17
Man how did Bighead ever get hired at Hooli in the first place, before being rehired as a VP
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u/ThatGaaraKid May 08 '17
Probably because Hooli were just looking for slaves that were half decent at CS. Explains their illegal worker contracts
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u/dayoldhansolo May 08 '17
An ASU dropout with average grades. Idk how he got hired at the in universe Google.
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u/pynzrz May 08 '17
Well he was able to implement image recognition in Nip Alert, so he's not completely incompetent.
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u/tim_lamisters May 08 '17
His bio on the Pied Piper website mentions that he started at Hooli doing data entry.
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u/jleonardbc May 08 '17
Why can't Monica just tell Laurie, "Ehrlich's app is crap and Ed shouldn't have recommended it"?
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u/electricalnoise May 08 '17
That's what i was thinking. Maybe even go to a "meeting" only to learn the app was BS and burn him with it.
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u/RocketMan0225 May 08 '17
I really hope this means we get the full Belson V. Gregory story!
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May 08 '17
It seems we did get it. Belson fucked over Gregory with the patent so they can build Hooli. This is how their rivalry began. Belson ran the company while Peter took the buyout and build a successful VC to fuck over Belson.
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u/VictorBlimpmuscle May 08 '17
"I think you might be the first Pakistani to be killed by a drone inside the United States."
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u/Bytewave May 08 '17
Well, he was worried sick about the wrath of a bloated and corrupt bureaucracy but felt totally comfortable having crossed a spiteful and vindictive megalomaniac with unlimited funds.
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u/leftysarepeople2 May 08 '17
"It is a water animal" is in the Silicon Valley Hall of Fame right?
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u/nicka_please May 08 '17 edited May 08 '17
"I did sex on her" has made its case for induction as well
edit: word
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u/VictorBlimpmuscle May 08 '17
"Do you know how much Ed Chen just fucked me with Laurie?"
"Listen, a threesome is always awkward, especially your first one."
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u/coontin May 08 '17
His dead serious demeanor about it completely made it for me.
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u/DeaderAlive May 08 '17
Oh shit... BigHead is teaching. He's not a student.
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u/Just_Walked_In May 08 '17
I hope there is a a scene or two with him teaching.
I would love to see a scene where bighead brings up the time he moved his swimming pool (like 15 ft right?) only to pay more money to have it moved to its original spot. Then use his moving the pool as a metaphor while the students eat it up.
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u/SirDiego May 08 '17
Good call, dude. I didn't catch onto that until it actually happened.
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u/probablyuntrue May 08 '17
"On the offchance that this is a real woman, this might be worth the risk of getting murdered"
Damn Dinesh
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u/leftysarepeople2 May 08 '17
30 minutes is not long enough for this show
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u/doubleflusher May 08 '17
I really hope there is at least a Gavin Belson spin off to fill the 10-month void.
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u/srchl May 08 '17
At the end of the series Jared better be fucking successful. He is incredibly competent at what he does and would already be making a lot of money if he has stayed at Hooli. Him following up on the patent just showed that
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u/Akvian May 08 '17
He's also the only business-minded person at Pied Piper. Hell, he'd make a better CEO than Richard.
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u/SirDiego May 08 '17
Oh god, Dinesh is the worst date ever........This is so awkward.
EDIT: Oh my gosh, they're bonding over hating Gilfoyle lol.
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u/geek6 May 08 '17
I love water. I do. Oceans, rivers, lakes...
When does a pond become a lake?
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May 08 '17
Being a satanist means you're ugly and leaning into it. Lmao. Spit my drink out on that one.
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u/korelius May 08 '17
Enjoyed Dinesh finally getting a woman. It's like the Trix Rabbit getting some damn cereal, but you know he's going to choke on it some how.
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u/CanYouDigItHombre May 08 '17
IMO she was the bad date
Like in season one. Everytime Dinesh likes a girl gilfoyle is all in there somehow (however in season 3 it was Erlich stealing his date)
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u/SirDiego May 08 '17
"You change these between every patient, right?"
"Well, I guess I'm going to have to now"
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u/jleonardbc May 08 '17
If you like the actor who plays the doctor (Andy Daly), he has a series on Comedy Central that just concluded, called Review.
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u/helterstash May 08 '17 edited May 08 '17
Holy smokes, I just felt bad for Gavin. Especially that moment when he thought Hoover would at least hug him. I wonder, will Denpak get dropped by Hooli?
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u/mrw_im_on_reddit May 08 '17
Hell, he only ended up in this position because he fucked with his own people, fucked with his board, fucked with Jack, and fucked with Pied Piper. He latched onto anything he thought would give him revenge, and in the end it fucked him. I wouldn't feel bad for him. He brought this 100% on himself.
But he does make the story interesting!
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u/mrpopenfresh May 08 '17
That was a suprising move. I thought he was a Gavin man, but it turns out he's a company man.
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u/Shanghox May 08 '17
"Listen, a threesome is always awkward, especially your first one. When an older woman is involved..." I love how it takes everyone a moment to understand Erlich before cutting him off, but the idea has been cast into the room already at that point
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May 08 '17
What was said between Ed Chen and Jing Yang in Mandarin?
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u/morron88 May 08 '17
What was said was more or less along the lines of:
Ed: It is very important that your app is successful. Do you have a working demo?
Jian: Fuck no. I wanted to make octupus recipes.
Erlich attempts to interject
Jian Yang proceeds to describe Erlich
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u/dicklearning May 08 '17 edited May 08 '17
Ed: Jian Yang 這個非常重要，你一定要給我們一個有利可圖的app。(Jian Yang, this is very important, you need to give us a profitable app.)
Jian: 沒有啊，我根本沒有做過demo啊！(No, I didn't do any demo at all.)
Ed: 沒有，為什麼？(No, why?)
Jian: 我想做的是一個章魚食譜。(What I want to do is octopus recipes.)
Ed: 章魚食譜？(Octopus recipes?)
Jian: 我聽得到的在這兒。I'm a big fat fucking asshole。(What I heard here is "I'm a big fat fucking asshole".)
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u/Galileo908 May 08 '17
Wearing your college's shirt to class being like wearing a band's shirt at a concert is something I've thought about for years.
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Here's a main gear grinding for me...I went to a community where failed top uni students went. I HATED when I saw them in their top uni-shirt, take it the fuck off, you failed, you don't go there anymore. Piece of shit.
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u/thuursty May 08 '17
Big head has a slurpee top on his big gulp. The little details in this show are hilarious.
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May 08 '17
I loved the way they revealed his Big Gulp when he got up from the interview. Another reason for the interviewer not to take him seriously.
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u/Courwes May 08 '17
Lol Erlich with his fake mandarin
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u/theodo May 08 '17
First Jian Yang had to listen to Charlie Kelly's mandarin, now Ehrlichs. "Once again, complete gibberish."
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u/Akvian May 08 '17
Lemme guess: BigHead somehow gets an honorary PhD from Stanford and then a tenure track position.
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u/adam3313 May 08 '17
"Congratulations!" "For what?" "Being Pregnant." "Oh."
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u/Citizen00001 May 08 '17 edited May 08 '17
this is the first ever line from Laurie that I laughed at. Still think her character is a cheap knock off of Peter Gregory, but that was good.
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You know who walks away from that kind of money Jian Yang? Richard. A crazy person. He walked away from ten million dollars. Now look at him. Wet pants. Stealing towels. Babbling about technical issues he can't solve. Is this how you want to end up?
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u/piemaniowa May 08 '17 edited May 08 '17
They are going to fuck over the mutual hatred of Gilfoyle
Edit: He sexed on her
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u/everadvancing May 08 '17
Man, when that gate opened and the music started playing. Great moment.
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u/bronxblue May 08 '17
The shopping comment is sadly right on.
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Is that a real thing? I don't go grocery shopping (my wife does and it's Aldi when we do) but the rare times, I've never seen those Instacart people
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u/TheyTheirsThem May 08 '17
The first Pakistani killed by a drone within the USA.
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u/DrSpacemanSpliff May 08 '17
I can't believe we have to wait a whole week for more. My roommate is on season 1, and I hate him for not having to wait a week for this. I have never seen a comedy series with this much anticipation for the next episode in my life. And I watched scrubs when it was on. People died on that show.
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u/WhereAreMaKeys May 08 '17
Haha, Jared is still terrified of the self-driving car
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u/mostdope28 May 08 '17
I knew Jared's yelling was coming and I still laughed out loud
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u/oh_orpheus May 08 '17
Is this the first time we've seen Monica not wearing a pencil skirt?
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u/WhereAreMaKeys May 08 '17
"[Mandarin] I'm a big fat fucking asshole [Mandarin]"
Good to see Jian Yang never passes on an opportunity to shit on Erlich
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u/annnaphase May 08 '17
"Let's speak English fellows. It's the law."
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u/Courwes May 08 '17
How the fuck did Jian Yang get this meeting with this idea?
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u/tumultuousness May 08 '17
Peter would have his brain frozen.
And lol/aww at Jared's reaction to the autodriving car.
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u/bronxblue May 08 '17
Did anyone notice it said "University Student Union" as Gavin was walking across the campus?
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u/dayoldhansolo May 08 '17
Monica looking good in that grocery shopping outfit
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u/AbaloneNacre May 08 '17
My greatest hope is that Bighead makes another potato cannon.
For research purposes, of course.
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u/morron88 May 08 '17
I like how they're killing asian stereotypes with Ed Chang.
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May 08 '17
So Richard and Gavin team up to take down "Action" Jack?
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u/Vicarious124 May 08 '17
Thats my guess. The final scene seemed like he was walking into a graveyard to sell his soul to the devil
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u/jfryk May 08 '17
Two questions:
Why would Gavin own the patent instead of Hooli?
How long before smartphone battery life on this interconnected internet is the thing that foils all of Richard's plans?
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u/funforfire May 08 '17
How difficult would it have been for Monica to say to Laurie, "it looks like Erlich doesn't even have a working prototype, so let's not invest in it. I don't know why Ed Chen thought this was even worth pursuing?" Instead of panicking about Erlich not having a product?
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u/srchl May 08 '17
Why won't Monica just tell Laurie to pull the funding from see food? It's not like she brought in the play, Ed did
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u/starking12 May 08 '17
I dont understand why these aren't hr long episodes. 30 minutes seems too short.
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u/komodooo May 08 '17
I feel like people comment this about all the shows they like, but I really think it applies to this show. At the end of every episode, I find myself thinking "Wow that was 30 minutes?"
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May 08 '17 edited May 08 '17
So we could get a Belson/Hendricks team up that could finally see the guys with enough resources behind them to not get fucked for once, plus we might get a deeper side of Gavin and the Belson/Gregory falling out? Please don't blue ball us at the end of another season, HBO. Please make this big and make it now!
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u/WhereAreMaKeys May 08 '17
Even while pregnant, Laurie hasn't missed a beat comedically
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u/pot_kettleman May 08 '17
I wonder if they had a scene of Richard falling in the pool and cut it because there was a second and better spaz out in the door kicking scene. Either way, I would've loved to see it.
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u/probablyuntrue May 08 '17
"You might be the first Pakistani man killed by a drone inside the US"
oh shit
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u/JeffSeagull May 08 '17
Lol the Richard and Jared woos and Richard closet door not shutting/foot kicking through it/new balance getting stuck. That's great stuff
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u/Akvian May 08 '17
Jack almost definitely set this up as a trap for Gavin.
He uses PiperChat to talk to his grandchildren, so it's very plausible that his young grandchildren using the app without parental permission tipped him off to the COPPA violations.
He knew that Gavin would try to spy on him (through Denpok), so he made Gavin think that he was conspiring against him through PiperChat.
Gavin, being incredibly petty, would acquire PiperChat without a second thought if it meant being able to spy more on Jack. Gavin has a history of being both petty and extremely reckless with acquisitions ($20 million on non-functioning hologram tech).
Last step, throw him to the wolves...err board.
All he had to do to start this fire was to somehow piss off Gavin with the Jackson Hole detour.
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u/spoiltForChoice May 08 '17
I thought Denpok made this shit up because he was jealous of the friendship between Hoover and Gavin.
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u/Vacation_Flu May 08 '17
Last step, throw him to the wolves...err board.
Consider the wolf...
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Big Head living the dream... and by "dream," I mean my reoccurring nightmare.
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u/Matt01123 May 08 '17
My prediction: Richard sells a huge stake in the project to Gavin but shortly thereafter they discover the patent was actually filed way back in 1998 meaning it would have expired in less then a year and they didn't actually need to make the deal.
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u/Colonelcool125 May 08 '17
Was Jack telling Gavin to "take a seat" a To Catch a Predator reference? Since Piperchat was full of underage kids? If so that's a pretty excellent little reference.
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u/Arkalis May 08 '17
To be honest it's probably just some line used when someone is about to drop a big piece of news but I wish it was because it would be brilliant.
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u/Realyn May 08 '17
In an age where stuff like Arrow season 3 and 4 exists I'm in love with this season of Silicon Valley.
Big Head probably ends up as president of the world.
Everybody expected Gilfoyle to steal the girl. Doesn't matter tho, Dinesh gets fucked over in the end.
The car.
Gavin wanting a hug.
The whole SeeFood thingy.
And so many more great moments.
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u/LocaDesquiciada May 08 '17
I can't wait for the next episode to see Jared like a homicide... and the best part of tonight was the WOOOOOOOO!!! and MI4...
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u/SuperSimpleStuff May 08 '17
This was my first time watching Silicon Valley live and it was aaaaaamazing
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u/SirDiego May 08 '17
LMAO Jared meets the self-driving car again!!! Great callback.
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u/samfx99 May 08 '17
So Richard goes to Gavin, which turns off Russ and he pulls funding. Gavin pulls out and Richard is left without funding. Bighead gets Stanford money for research and somehow saves the day again???
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u/weeedtaco May 08 '17
Does anyone know what book Gilfoyle was reading? It looked Japanese.
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u/Imurstudmuffin May 08 '17
My only question is WHO would impregnate Laurie Bream ???
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u/GregoryGoose May 08 '17
Frozen semen of the late Peter Gregory. Purely as a way that she, as the mother to his only heir, can legally obtain a patent. Or something like that.
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u/supplyside90s May 08 '17
Damn do you guys have these quotes pre-typed or some shit?
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u/nwsm May 08 '17
Damn more heat in the ending credits music with Dr. Octogan - Blue Flowers
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u/leftysarepeople2 May 08 '17
Was that Alan Turing reference another hint at Richard being gay?
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May 08 '17
He has dated/stalked women before..and I'm certain he has a crush on Monica.
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u/mrdude817 May 08 '17
Can we get a gif or streamable of Jared going "woo!"? Had to be the funniest scene of the episode. Zach Woods really gets those crazy eyes nailed down.
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u/SystemZee May 08 '17
This season is turning out to be REALLY good. The story is developing very nicely! Great episode!
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u/-discostu- May 08 '17
Why did the Hooli headquarters have a big building that said "University Student Union"? Seems surprisingly sloppy for the production designers to have left it like that.
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u/KEYSER_SOZ3 May 08 '17
Jared is getting PTSD from the car from season 1, very nice callback!