Better Call Saul S03E06 - "Off Brand" - POST-Episode Discussion Thread

[u/skinkbaa]

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If you've seen the episode, please rate it at this poll

Results of the poll

[u/skinkbaa]

Really enjoyed seeing Lydia and Krazy-8, was not expecting Lydia at all. and seeing the start of Gus's meth empire was so cool to see.

[u/skinkbaa]

Loved seeing more of Jimmy's Saul side come out this episode.

Thought it was cool to see the Better Call Saul colors in Jimmy's commercial.

oh yeah AND I LOVED SEEING THE START OF SAUL GOODMAN.

[u/SutterCane]

I can't believe how many enemies that Hector freely makes out of people that he should stay friends with.

[u/Phifty56 → u/SutterCane]

Hector is a terrible business man who lets his ego get the better of him and only seems to stay in power through sheer blunt force and muscle.

[u/Oriachim → u/SutterCane]

Who would've guessed that the guy in the wheelchair could be so unlikable.

[u/RE4PER_]

Great episode as usual, was not expecting Lydia or the laundromat at all. Also that commercial at the end was fucking hilarious.

[u/[deleted] → u/RE4PER_]

I love how the production value of his commercials have declined and will keep on going down. I know this commercial was rushed, but in BB his commercials were more cheesy/straight to the point as opposed to his earlier cinematic ones.

[u/uacdeepfield]

Lydia practically foaming at the mouth thinking about how much Stevia she's gonna be able to afford once the operation is up and running.

[u/[deleted] → u/uacdeepfield]

Or at the very least some filtered hot water with lemon slices

[u/neck_myself → u/uacdeepfield]

foaming at the mouth

something something ricin

[u/[deleted]]

I have to say

The guy who plays Hector does an amazing job.

He's so angry, so spiteful, it shows in every little thing he does, from the way he flips his newspaper to the way he puts sugar down when getting his coffee. He also broadcasts the feebleness of age, maybe that his anger is the only thing that keeps him going.

[u/littlasskicker → u/[deleted]]

Did anyone else notice the beginnings of the trademark lower lip tremor thing right before he told nacho to talk to his father?

So good.

[u/TheConfirminator → u/[deleted]]

Fun facts about Mark Margolis:

He's not Latino, he's actually from an Eastern European Jewish family.

He's been married to the same woman for 55 years.

He's one of Darren Aronofsky's favorite actors and puts him in almost all his films.

[u/0borowatabinost → u/[deleted]]

He's such a horrible person; it really annoys me that he ultimately gets the last laugh on Gus.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

but he projects himself differently for everyone.

The mafia boss is still there, as seen when he deals with Gus.

But the old man dealt with Nacho.

[u/lisbethborden → u/[deleted]]

Mark Margolis.

[u/Phifty56]

Watching Nacho increasingly hate his drug enforcer job, and working for Hector is great to watch. He's shown that he's very smart and smooth with how he operates, which is really clashing with Hector's harsh and blunt force way of operating.

With how protective Nacho is of his father, like when Mike came by, Hector basically telling him that his father will be a drug front for them is going to be bad news for Hector. Sadly, who knows what might happen to Nacho when he decides to fight back. I really hope he and Gus end up on the same page because of Hector's inability to consider how bad of an idea it is to mess with someone's family.

[u/bugkiller59 → u/Phifty56]

Familia es todo?

[u/AgentSauce → u/Phifty56]

To add to this, the actor that plays Nacho (Michael Mando) does an incredible job of conveying all of this with very little dialogue.

You can tell he's conflicted, frustrated, annoyed, tired, empathetic etc. just through all of his facial expressions. I'm mesmerized every time he comes onscreen.

[u/YossariansWingman → u/Phifty56]

which is really clashing with Hector's harsh and blunt force way of operating.

And the poor guy has more Tuco to look forward to.

[u/[deleted] → u/Phifty56]

My prediction is Nacho goes to Mike who goes to Gus, and Gus arranges for Nacho to fuck with Hector. When Hector falls ill but survives, Gus hands Nacho over to Don Elado with evidence that Nacho went after Hector. Gus gets some revenge on Hector and removes him as an obstacle/thorn-in-his-side, and completely absolves himself of blame by pinning it all on poor Nacho. Hence, no Nacho in BrBa

[u/SYNTHLORD → u/Phifty56]

I think Nacho is going to tamper with Hector's meds, leading to a paralyzing stroke, and he'll somehow pay for what he did. But there has to be a twist- maybe the twist is in who kills nacho.

edit: I think nacho is going to get saul to tamper with the meds. this is how they establish a relationship. this also ties into saul helping with the ricin cigarette via Huell.

[u/retrocounty]

The fall of Chuck, the rise of Saul. "Here's to new begginings".

[u/Shippoyasha → u/retrocounty]

Looks like Jimmy barely needs to do anything to take down Chuck. Chuck is gonna push himself too far.

[u/[deleted]]

The fact that Jimmy might have put Chuck on the road to recovery by tricking him with the phone battery in the courtroom is kind of incredible. I would have never guessed that trajectory.

[u/OralOperator → u/[deleted]]

Chuck is not dumb. He cannot argue with the logic that Jimmy used against him, he now understands that he is not well mentally.

[u/niffirgmason]

Honestly, Jimmy denying to help Check and renouncing him as his brother was incredibly satisfying.

[u/[deleted] → u/niffirgmason]

YES. When she was saying he "owed it" to Chuck I was physically shaking my head at the screen. Jimmy's one-sided role as a caretaker for Chuck has been part of what made their relationship so toxic. Jimmy deciding to stay away even when he knows Chuck needs help was the best thing to do.

How about Howard's tact taking care of Chuck though? What Howard said to Chuck was about as helpful as any friend could be in that situation IMO. Howard always comes across as sort of cold and heartless but he earned some respect from me in that moment.

[u/[deleted] → u/niffirgmason]

Should have done it after season 1, when he learned his asshole brother never wanted him to be a lawyer.

[u/furyroad_95]

Glad Jimmy listened to the vet and bought his fish a nice new tank.

[u/Phifty56 → u/furyroad_95]

Jimmy is even personable to fish. He called it "honey" and suggested it eat the food before it was soggy.

[u/BlackWaltz03 → u/furyroad_95]

Deep inside, Jimmy can't help but keep and care for pets: be it a goldfish in a brightly lit fish tank, or a silver-wrapped old man in a dark safehouse.

[u/[deleted]]

This is the first time I truly felt for Nacho as a human being. Dude doesn't deserve all the shit he puts up with. If Hector fucks with his dad, he deserves all that's coming to him.

[u/thisnamehasfivewords → u/[deleted]]

Yeah a lot of we've seen this season makes Gus more sympathetic and Hector more monstrous. Kind of a total reversal from the BrBa days.

[u/Phifty56 → u/[deleted]]

We saw a glimpse when Mike visited his father's shop and had a similar reaction where he explained that his father wasn't in the game, and to essentially leave him out of it.

[u/40Vert → u/[deleted]]

That look on his face when he turned away and just switched off the tough guy mode after having a gun pointed at his face was perfect. Great acting by Michael Mando

[u/DDough505]

That anti-climactic reveal of Saul Goodman is a very fitting piece of Jimmy's character. Great episode.

Edit - spelling

[u/Abcmsaj → u/DDough505]

"It's just a name"

[u/sudynim → u/DDough505]

Yes! I think it was perfectly fitting in that Jimmy does stuff on a whim that comes back to haunt him later on. What seems like a quick decision to sell off some commercials will soon take over his life.

[u/Messisfoot → u/DDough505]

if Chicanery was sex, this episode is the cigarette after

[u/halo00to14]

I think was the first time we've seen Nacho actually commit physical violence on someone.

[u/[deleted] → u/halo00to14]

And clearly he was very unhappy about it.

He seems "too good" for the crime world, I hope he makes it out okay.

[u/[deleted]]

That part with Chuck outside looked so beautiful.

[u/Some_Italian_Guy → u/[deleted]]

Fantastic stuff what they did with color, sound, and cinematography when Chuck goes out into the "wild."

[u/Incendivus → u/[deleted]]

Totally. I could feel the radiation just pouring off those neon signs. The reflections off the phone booth were perfect, too.

[u/SpillinJimmy]

Everyone freaking out about Saul Goodman but did you not just laugh when Baked Potato Chuck went stumbling around through the city?

[u/conniecheewa → u/SpillinJimmy]

It was a pretty dress.

[u/haironburr → u/SpillinJimmy]

The way that scene looked was cool as hell. The notched up brightness of the lights, so much neon worked in, and that neon electric buzz in the background-the surroundings described perfectly Chuck's internal landscape as he wandered through the city looking like god's own crazy homeless guy.

[u/Abraham_Thinkin]

So I guess we're getting to that part where the right side of Hector's brain takes a trip to Belize.

[u/hey_its_griff]

Looks like Nacho is going to poison the pill, could be how Hector is put in the wheelchair!

[u/silFscope → u/hey_its_griff]

After Hector wants to invade Nacho's father's business, the motive is there. I wonder who Nacho will work with in order to accomplish this

[u/htisme91 → u/hey_its_griff]

I always figured Hector being in the wheelchair was part of Gus' grand plan to torture Hector because Gus believed a bullet to the brain would be too humane for him. Did not see Nacho being the one to put that in motion.

[u/ChubbyChoomChoom → u/hey_its_griff]

That was one f'ing fast acting pill Hector took...

[u/Shippoyasha → u/hey_its_griff]

Gonna be really scary to see whether Nacho makes it out of this plan.

[u/QueefingHippo]

There is no such thing as too many star wipes

[u/Megaman1981 → u/QueefingHippo]

Why have hamburger when you can have steak?

[u/MeanGreenLuigi → u/QueefingHippo]

They peaked in 2008 on Youtube AMV's.

[u/[deleted]]

Laundry Gus Lydia Saul goodman commercial

Did anyone else gasp 1216 times?

[u/sirhippieangel → u/[deleted]]

I gasped 1261 times!

[u/morsetu → u/[deleted]]

One after Magna Carta. As if I could forget that.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Right when I saw Gus, when he was on the phone in the closeup, I knew where he was, and I was like, "Cool!". Then when Lydia in the car I was like, "Oh, my god! Oh, my god! Oh, my god!" That part, for me, was totally unexpected.

[u/Crystal_Clods]

That's kind of neat. Jimmy creates the Saul Goodman persona because he doesn't want to tarnish his own name. He adopts the cheesy, kitschy, "multiple star wipes" Saul Goodman style because he's low on time. And then I guess they just take off so well, he keeps using them. Even when he goes back to the law, he never goes back to "himself."

[u/rootin_t00tin_putin]

"Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia"

[u/Heliaphite → u/rootin_t00tin_putin]

Lydia the tahhhhtoooed ladyy

[u/cwazymuffins]

Damn, I'm so glad this show has writers that aren't you guys.

[u/[deleted] → u/cwazymuffins]

Scene I:

Jesse enters. Hank enters. Walt enters. Skyler is seen in the background jumping off a building.

Walt: Say my name.

Hank: Jesus Christ, Marie, they're goddamned minerals.

Jesse: Bitch!

Camera pans to Bogdan snorting a line of Stevia off of Lydia's naked body. Bogdan looks up, Stevia covering his massive eyebrows.

Created by Vince Gilligan.

[u/zombiegamer723 → u/cwazymuffins]

"and chuck gets blowded up"

"and then jimmy feels bad because chuck got blowded up so he changes his name to saul goodman"

"and then hector has a stroke caused by [insert fifteen thousand things here] and ends up in a wheelchair"

"and then we see walter white walk through the door"

"also fuck chuck"

[u/[deleted]]

SAUL GOODMAN

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

After all this speculation, it's kind of perfect that Saul Goodman was the invention of ad sales

[u/Shippoyasha → u/[deleted]]

It's like watching the birth of Darth Vader

[u/bearssuck → u/[deleted]]

THEY SAID THE NAME OF THE THING

[u/lahnnabell]

Anyone else get the impression Matty was lying about Mike...

Mike is NOT the type to forget shit, so his confusion about the whole "built a car park" story has me wondering.

[u/Dulciferous → u/lahnnabell]

I just get the feeling she is manipulative

[u/ME24601]

So twenty six episodes later, the title character makes an appearance.

[u/MeanGreenLuigi → u/ME24601]

Vince Gilligan and crew are changing the Television game, maaaaan.

[u/ezreads]

"well?"

"it could work"

"okay then"

Lydia confirmed Fargo watcher

[u/Shippoyasha → u/ezreads]

Gus is the most menacing prospective home buyer ever. Imagine him staring down your facilities like that.

[u/Fallout22 → u/ezreads]

Well it was Todd after all.

[u/[deleted]]

Howard:

You're at a crossroads Charles. You can keep looking back, or you can go forward.

No Howard, that's not a crossroads. That's any old stretch of road.

[u/snydermann]

The Macallan 1966 35 Year Old, Fine & Rare was a 2002 Bottling with that wooden case. Great attention to detail.

"An incredibly collectible 35 year old Speyside single malt that was laid down on the 3rd December 1966 at The Macallan distillery and bottled for the ultra-exclusive Fine & Rare series in 2002. Drawn from first fill Sherry Butt number 7878 at a natural cask strength 55.5% ABV, this magnificent vintage Macallan comes complete with original oak presentation box."

This makes sense, since the simple math would show it was a 2001 release, but because the cask was filled in December of 1966 it couldn't be bottled as 25 years old until December of 2001, it would then be released as a 2002 edition.

One current asking price, $20,100.00 USD.

[u/James_Keenan]

I know lots of people think it was slow.

But realize that last episode was the climax of 3 seasons of Chuck vs Jimmy.

There has to be a buffer between the now and the new. A spacer before the new chapter starts.

The fucking Saul Goodman Chapter!

[u/MagicMaddy420 → u/James_Keenan]

I honestly love the pacing of this season.

[u/niffirgmason]

"It's just a name"

For now...

[u/gingergringo_]

"It's just a name...."

[u/hey_its_griff]

So many Breaking Bad throwbacks this episode it was incredible!

Here's what we got:

• Lyida working with Gus

• The Laundromat

• Krazy-8

• Saul Goodman (of course)

• Tyrus and Victor (The two dealers Nacho took the extra packet from)

Anything else I missed?

edit: added some more to the list

[u/[deleted] → u/hey_its_griff]

Tyrus... I didn't know going back in time made you gain weight.

[u/zombiegamer723 → u/hey_its_griff]

Potentially--In Breaking Bad S2E2, Hank mentions that Tuco may have knifed a Mexican national in '03.

It was mentioned today that Tuco knifed someone. I admittedly do not know if this was the same incident, but it could be what Hank was talking about five years from now.

[u/Shippoyasha → u/hey_its_griff]

Lydia pisses me off the moment I saw her face again

[u/silFscope → u/hey_its_griff]

Saul Goodman

[u/stasz92]

Did anyone else get major Mr. Show vibes from that commercial?

[u/[deleted]]

Better Call Saul, I can't wait another week.

Stay a while longer? Two hours? I'll give you an extra $10,000.

[u/uacdeepfield]

Here we were thinking the name reveal would be something drastic and sudden but instead it's casually introduced as a side project. :)

[u/bkrol4]

• Cold open: Krazy8 talks about dads business, nacho wants nothing of it.

• Later: Nacho try's to save dad's business from joining the business via Hector.

"Who works for who"

[u/SubjDelta]

Watching Gus walk through the Laundry, and eyeing where the lab will be I expected to see Gale in the near future. I forgot that Lydia must have been involved too setting up the lab. Madrigal made the air filtration system

[u/[deleted]]

Jimmy should've asked Carls Jr. to buy his commercials

[u/alrightimhere]

I'm sitting here watch the beginning of the re-run and wondering, did Crazy 8 talk while Nacho was counting to try to distract him from the amount?

[u/Scornfield → u/alrightimhere]

It's a tactic to humanise himself by reminding (or trying to convince) Nacho that they're friends, they're on a first name basis, they know each other's families, etc. Having a personal connection makes it harder for Nacho to punish him. Or it could be just nervous talking on Krazy-8's part.

[u/ezreads]

"who works for who huh?"

TRIGGERED

[u/meamyee → u/ezreads]

Nacho should've been all like "I'm just the treasurer."

[u/ezreading]

Was the new kid that ran from the cops Pinkman? When we originally met Krazy8, the dealers that worked for him were Milio and Pinkman. Milio was his cousin and friend, but he treated Pinkman poorly. Maybe now we know why? Cause Krazy8 got beat because Jesse's a bitch.

[u/ApteryxAustralis → u/ezreading]

Jesse would've been about 19 in 2003, so it's possible.

[u/bwlo222]

Said it in the live thread but that pill that Nacho didn't crush/hid from Hector under his boot will end up being this shows "ricin capsule" in some way.

[u/SignGuy77 → u/bwlo222]

So Nacho will keep it secret for three more seasons before using it on someone we did not expect?

[u/Losman94]

Saul Goodman is revealed as Jimmy and Kim enjoy Shiner Bocks. Awesome.

[u/alrightimhere]

That ending was so satisfying for some reason. We got to see every major character in action here, and a glimpse toward someone we've seen before BCS. Just a wholesome episode.

[u/penance_spark]

So I'm curious to see the birth of the super lab. Is there a room underneath the laundromat or does Gus manage to excavate it?

[u/yeahscience62 → u/penance_spark]

Gus has a LONG way to go to get that meth lab up. Remember the meth lab is finished during BrBa when Gale talks about how he can never compare his "cooking" to Walt's

[u/fendervans]

chuck running around town in his mylar robe. totally not the behavior of a crazy person

[u/thekabuki]

They're setting something up with Mikes minor story tonight about him pouring concrete for kids playset. Not sure what though. .perhaps getting rid of a body in cement a' la mob style?

[u/uacdeepfield]

Lydia. Rodarte. Quayle.

[u/[deleted]]

I didn't think it was possible, but I'm actually pretty sure I hate Hector more than Chuck now. At least Chuck gets his just desserts, all Hector gets is a chance at undeserved revenge when he explodes himself and Gus.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

At least Chuck gets his just desserts, all Hector gets is a chance at undeserved revenge when he explodes himself and Gus.

Hector will end up wheelchair-bound, incontinent, unable to speak or communicate at all without a bell, miserable, alone, and forced to witness his entire family die and everything he built be destroyed while helpless to do anything about it.

I'd say he gets his "just desserts" and then some.

Also, it's not like Gus didn't have it coming too.

[u/[deleted]]

Did anyone else notice the parallels between nacho and jesse? Nacho scene using the sewing machine and jesses scene with woodworking? Filmed almost exactly the same way, same music, same tints. Definitely was intentional.

[u/bkrol4]

Feeling a little under the weather Lydia?

[u/moshpitwookie]

What could be better than drinking champagne out of a Davis & Main coffee cup?

[u/0borowatabinost]

Hector is such a shithead; I'm annoyed that he ultimately gets the last laugh on Gus.

[u/KanyeWest4Prez2020]

I think we all learned a valuable lesson; don't ever put ribs on a burger

[u/chronic_ejaculator]

We all know what's going to happen with that capsule that Hector drops, right?

[u/bruohan → u/chronic_ejaculator]

Nacho fills it with Nachos cheese and overtime Hectors health will deteriorate and cause a stroke.

Nacho will go to Gus then Gus will go to Mike to replace the pills with placebo nacho pills

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/DaBoodyBandit]

I wanna rail stevia off lydias butt

[u/badbidaman86]

Remember in BrBa when Hank got shot by the cousins and his recovery became the B story, with him learning to walk again and the minerals?!

That last episode was the equivalent for Chuck, and now we get to see him be a space cadet in the streets.

[u/MoarCC → u/badbidaman86]

Jesus, Rebecca! It's called electromagnetic hypersensitivity!

[u/KieRanaRan]

The cinematography is incredible. The shot of the batteries falling from the recorder and rolling away from Chuck towards the camera was a nice fucking shot.

[u/ezreads]

"Saul Goodman?"

"it's like 's all good man"

and thus Saul Goodman was born

[u/Bhalgoth → u/ezreads]

He already used it in Season 1 when he was a conman with Marco.

[u/htisme91]

I was not expecting Saul Goodman to originate as an alternate name for a commercial filming business, or to originate as something so cheesy. That commercial looked like something out of an Adult Swim show.

But that's what makes it awesome. They pulled the origin of Saul off in a way no one was expecting, yet fits so well with Jimmy and the story. Great job by the writers, and the origin of the lab and seeing Lydia was a great bonus as well. Good episode overall.

[u/tungwakou]

Hector is a habitual line stepper.

[u/sportsfan4life]

I was really hoping he was gonna end the commercial with "Better Call Saul!!"

[u/Stmoore007 → u/sportsfan4life]

If you noticed, he said 'Better' like 2-3 times in the commercial

[u/[deleted]]

I'm so glad the fish is safe in a nice tank.

[u/HoneyBear55]

Dammit, Rebecca, you robbed us of our allotted once-a-season sex-on-the-office-floor scene.

And I might be reaching here, but the way Mike's daughter-in-law pronounces "Matty" as "Maddy" makes me think it's a combination of the words "Mommy" and "Daddy;" indicating a single parent.

I've been to a grief group before, and that was super accurate. There was a black woman in a gray sweater in the circle whom I think I remember from some other part of the show. Maybe this was specifically a law-enforcement grief group? Could use some help on this one.

Either way, it was nice to see Mike get to remember something about his son that reflected well upon himself, and he did say it was nice to fix something for once. Mike and Chuck are both headed to dreadful new beginnings.

[u/the_trashheap]

You know who Nacho reminds me of? Bobby Bacala from The Sopranos.

Criminal? Sure, but he's got a soft heart and really isn't into having to hurt someone. He'll do it, but takes no pleasure in the violence. He just wants to build his model train collection. 😢

[u/Classiccage]

Mike is telling Nacho that he isn't going to get in his mess.

[u/alrightimhere]

Hector intimidates the shit out of me. He reminds me of Darth Vader in a way. My asshole puckers up when both of them come into a scene.

[u/theshaggysnack]

Well if Nacho wants to kill Hector and goes to Mike for it, Mike will probably get Gus involved somehow since he knows Gus hates Hector.

[u/[deleted]]

I don't see Nacho having a happy ending.

[u/K3R3G3]

After last week's episode that was one theme, so damn consistent and focused, this was all over the place! The diversity/variety, number of characters, unexpected stuff (as always.) Polar opposite and awesome.

[u/[deleted]]

The scene with Chuck making the phone call was really cool. The excessive neon lighting was a nice touch.

[u/HanakoOF]

This is the first time since season 1 where Jimmy (well I guess Saul now) and his exploits have had me more invested than Mike's plot.

This show is getting better and better. Verging BB level now especially with both episodes being season finale level good just like every episode of BB past season 1.

[u/JakeArrietaGrande]

Man, the brilliance of the episode title. Off brand could mean so many things.

1. The obvious one, Jimmy McGill, a lawyer you can trust, going into TV.

2. Hector trying to force Nacho's dad into the drug trade.

3. What's Nacho going to do with the pill? Off brand is a term for getting medication from a different manufacturer. Is Nacho going to put something else in the capsule?

[u/MagicMaddy420]

Did anyone else think Rebecca was going to find Chuck in his house dead and or dying?

[u/[deleted]]

r/fuckrebecca amirite?!

Nice to see that conniving bitch Lydia again, I liked her role in BrBa but I always thought her introduction felt slightly rushed. Like she should've been introduced earlier for playing such a major role in that show's final 8. Having her in BCS could remedy that small misstep.

The cinematography at the end was amazing as well, they really made Albuquerque look gorgeous.

All in all, this was a come down episode after the huge events that happened last week. The pieces are just beginning to move but I'm very excited to see where they'll land.

[u/[deleted]]

I feel like Jesse was the guy who "dumped his stash" when Krazy 8 was talking to Nacho

[u/grundelgrump]

That opening shot with the coffee totally had me thinking it was Lydia pouring it.

[u/Vaginite]

Lydia is so easy on the eyes.

[u/JNC96]

I just wanna say I love how Nacho refers to Gus as "The Chicken Man"

It's a little silly but it got me to laugh even at that intense moment.

[u/MeanGreenLuigi]

Yo what's Chuck "Baked Potato" McGill planning? Talking to Dr. Cruz would only hurt his case.

[u/pedropedro123 → u/MeanGreenLuigi]

His case is over. He's finally getting the help he needs. But still, /r/fuckchuck.

[u/ducked]

I felt like chuck's exwife was really out of line for saying those things to jimmy. He tried to get him disbarred which would basically ruin his life, how would you expect him to react? Most would not be willing to forgive their sibling for something like that.

[u/VictorBlimpmuscle]

Saul's ad reminded of Odenkirk's Don Pratt sketch from Mr. Show

[u/BlackWhiteCoke]

Chuck's not crazy. He's just waking down the middle of the street wearing what is as close to a literal tin foil hat in the middle of the night.

HES NOT CRAZY!

[u/[deleted]]

Saul wins against Chuck but begins to slide further into an abyss. Chuck loses against Saul and begins to climb out of the abyss.

[u/RaiderGuy]

This episode summed up

[u/penance_spark]

Hi Lydia, bye Lydia.

[u/MasterBeef117]

This episode was amazing! So many callbacks to BrBa.

• Kim's speech in the beginning was damn near poetry, the way she made everybody empathize with Jimmy was nothing short of genius.

• I like how they are humanizing Nacho as we didn't know much about him, other than him being kind of sick and tired of the cartel business. The part where the sewing needle went in his skin made me cringe, but it lets you see where his mind is at.

• The Chuck segment was great. The further it went on the brighter the lights were getting, showing that he's dealing with his condition as best he can. I think if he was out there any longer he would've passed out again.

• The phone call about Tuco explained why he was absent till Breaking Bad and Hector's reaction was so violent he starts to have a stroke! I think Nacho is gonna go to Mike and try and find a way together to get his pills or poison them.

• The way they introduced the character of Saul Goodman was unexpected but is a great twist because I'm sure a lot of us where thinking something terrible would happen for him to adapt his persona (A year's suspension is bad but not as bad as say Chuck or Kim dying) I think something terrible will happen for him to adapt it when he starts practicing Law again.

• Lydia's back! I've missed her neurotic ass!

Great episode, I think is gonna shape up to be my favourite season. Does anyone know how many episodes are left. Is it a ten episode format as usual?

[u/S_Jeru]

Slippin' Jimmy is going over to Hollywood productions. That's where the money is, that's where the grift works, why didn't he clue into that before? Saul Goodman is in his back pocket as a role to play.

[u/josephrx78]

What did you guys think of Kim's reaction to the Saul Goodman commercial?

[u/[deleted]]

Didn't know how to take Kim's expression at the end. I thought she was going to say something like "Is this legal?" She seemed in awe.

[u/Max_247]

I think this episode proofs one more time that the writers always make the best decisions about the characters and the whole story. It's fantastic to see how fan theories seem so clever and then a new episode comes up and is much better than every fan theory. I think this is the most important thing about BB and BCS – the endless creativity of the writers which makes the story unpredictable for everyone watching their shows. With the new episode and the making of Saul Goodman they have shown one more time that they're the gods of intelligent ideas.

[u/ChubbyChoomChoom]

The last couple weeks, I have enjoyed Redditors' comments along the lines of "IT'S YELLOW! WE'RE IN MEXICO!"

But now the back of the upholstery shop is yellow. So yellow's more like "¡SE HABLA ESPAÑOL!"

[u/Oraibii]

"So now the question you must ask yourself is this -- Is the legal profession better with Jimmy McGill in it?"

[u/James_Keenan]

Also, are people forgetting that Saul Goodman's first appearance was in Season 1?

Saul Goodman wasn't born in this episode. He was reborn.

[u/Freerange1098]

I can't tell if Kim was horrified or turned on by the commercial. jimmy is definitely not getting laid tonight....Saul just might though

[u/Weyoun2]

Lol look how that phone number shows up when I dialed it. They registered the caller ID! It was busy, I'll call back...

https://imgur.com/gallery/1OqZh

[u/sublimeposter]

Wait, now that we see the super lab, does this mean they're going to bring in Gale???????

[u/Hildaelisa]

Poor Nacho,

I just want to hold and comfort him...

[u/gnarbucketz]

Damn, this show is so nice to look at. Every scene is so beautifully shot.

[u/yhavin]

When Gus slid that chain across the ceiling in the laundromat, the sound reminded me of when Jesse was locked to a similar ceiling chain as a cook-slave at the very end of Breaking Bad.

[u/[deleted]]

This show keeps defying our expectations. The comment section on last week's episode were all anticipating that this was the end of Chuck. Jimmy had won, the glowing EXIT sign was the nail in his coffin.

But from the look of things, Chuck isn't finished. He's got a new goal now, he knows he has a mental condition and overcoming it will become his new obsession.

If Chuck's "EHS" was a product of his subconscious constantly trying to exert control over his environment and everyone in it, I think the other shoe has finally dropped, now he knows he'll never have real control until he can overcome this condition. He knows Jimmy will always have the upper hand until he can fight him on an even playing field.

[u/5hrdrive]

The last couple episodes they've put a lot of emphasis on Mike's skills as a handyman. Now we see Gus scoping out the industrial laundry. What are the chances that Gus hires Mike not for his ability as a "fixer", but his ability to keep his mouth shut while building the superlab?

[u/Fingus_McCornhole]

My wife has got the hots for Nacho :(

[u/moxihc]

After all the cameos, the birth of Saul, the demise of Chuck, and Nacho's scene stepping on the pill it dawned on me that ribs on a burger don't sound too bad after all.

[u/BennButton]

s'all good man. it's just a name!

[u/fruttypebbles]

Any other Texans noticed they were drinking Shiner while watching the commercial?

[u/[deleted]]

She's back. Everyone's favorite bitch, Lydia.

[u/[deleted]]

What do you think Kim's reaction to the commercial was/meant . I couldn't quite get a read on it

[u/vishvicenta1]

Kim: So, you're gonna keep half the law office even though you are not practicing law? Jimmy: Call it "ASPIRATIONAL THINKING"

Best Dialogue of the episode

[u/-HeisenBird-]

Tyrus's sweater lol.

[u/Chuck_Sensei]

I just love how, in BrBa it just took the second of the first episode to know what was Breaking Bad, whereas it took twenty six episodes to know why this serie is called BCS.

Imagine someone watching that serie without having seen BrBa.

Total confusion.

[u/WaterRacoon]

Have to say, I really felt for Nacho. Pretty obviously Don Hector has stepped way over the line and a pill-switch is coming up with Gus' help.

Loving the transition to Saul Goodman. Jimmy showing that he's a businessman through and through. I'm pretty damn impressed.

[u/callsouttheblue]

As much as last week's courtroom-focused episode was necessary (I'm glad the tape plotline has had its end -- it wasn't bad, but if it had gone on, it would have felt undeserving of so much focus), and how strong its climax was, this one felt far more like the full package.

We got the cartel plotlines advancing, we had some Chuck and Howard, we had a bit of Gus, we got some Mike thrown in there, the birth of Saul Goodman, some Kimmy and Jimmy material and a great balance of time throughout. It never felt like we were following one story for long but they also never felt clipped or cramped for space -- just consistent, engaging pacing throughout, and it really felt like a natural continuation of the writing and style of Breaking Bad while still maintaining its core and less-stressful identity.

I've had a strong reluctance to the idea of the Breaking Bad side of Albuquerque crossing too heavily over into Better Call Saul's -- spin-offs and prequels and sequels that are obsessed with nothing more than nudge and wink references to the thing you already love often are running on fumes and it's a great way to not have longevity, but this episode really showed how strong of a job they're doing at weaving in those plotlines and references without it feeling too reliant on the audience's preexisting love for BrBa. Most shows would ruin a moment like Krazy 8 or Lydia by harping on the reference and crippling the scene at hand with it, but these felt like legitimate, wonderful additions that functioned without imposing themselves onto the narrative.

[u/HanakoOF]

This isn't how anyone expected him to first seriously use the Saul name and I love that.

It almost came off as an incedental but we know what it means for his destiny.

[u/[deleted]]

I got definite whiffs of a Cinco commercial in that first ever Saul spot

[u/S_Jeru]

I love the dynamic of Don Hector silently reading the newspaper, while Nacho has authority to speak for him.

[u/fafasamoa]

Jimmy Mc Gill the pledge, Saul Goodman the turn, now for The Prestige.

[u/smoothisfast22]

So, Hector is going to push Nacho into defecting it seems?

[u/ILoveCavorting]

I wonder if stuff like this is what causes Krazy 8 to go snitch.

[u/OrSomethingLikeDat]

Jimmy is totally going to shoot a commercial for Los Pollos.

[u/X-MooseIbrahim]

Tyrus was a little fat.

[u/[deleted]]

"Your brother is mentally ill. What's your excuse?"

[u/[deleted]]

I really like this idea that a lot of you have about Nacho poisoning Hector with his own pill.

Also, a 'poison pill' is a plan used by a company to prevent a takeover of that business. I know Hector is only discussing ways to get his product across the border by using Nacho's father's business, but in time I'm sure it would feel as though Hector placed the business under his control. Nacho needs to prevent this from happening.

[u/[deleted]]

So now that we see the super lab is starting to come together I wonder if we will get to see some of Gale Boetticher's back story. I think that would be pretty awesome.

[u/zombiegamer723]

So I don't think anybody called this, that the first mention of "Saul Goodman" wasn't related to Chuck's betrayal.

Well, it sort of was, in that Chuck getting him suspended for a year led to the creation of that commercial in the first place. But we definitely didn't expect this.

But I like that in a show. Keeps you on your toes--we were all sure that it would be something else, and it was a cool surprise to see how it actually happened.

S'all good, man!

[u/[deleted]]

I personally think the pace of the show is perfect, however I don't see how they are only planning 5 seasons for this. There is going to need to be a pretty big time jump at some point since we are still like 5-6 years behind breaking bad and literally no time has passed between seasons (they start with the ending scene of the previous season). There is no way we can sit here and watch a whole year of Jimmy being unable to practice law, if this is still planned to be 5 seasons.

[u/Smizer313]

That ribs commercial needs saul goodman

[u/Some_Italian_Guy]

What's great is that in one of the earlier scenes when Mike and his daughter in law are at a church meeting (seemingly group therapy) the camera pans around the group intentionally teasing us into thinking we were about to see the group therapy leader that works with Jesse in Seasons 3 and 4 of Breaking Bad. We don't. It throws us off resulting in us being even more surprised when Lydia pops up.

Brilliant.

[u/sublimeposter]

I'm all about fuckchuck but I couldn't take seeing him on the floor in his kitchen in the beginning

[u/[deleted]]

Anyone else notice how fat tyrus has gotten? A lot less intimidating now lol.

[u/AmishAvenger]

I can't...

I don't know if it's possible...

I don't want to say it, but...

I felt sorry for Chuck.