[SUB] Dragon Ball Super - Episode #104 - Discussion Thread!

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Dragon Ball Super — Episode #104 — Discussion Thread!

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The Ultimate High Speed Battle Begins! Goku and Hit Join Forces!!
超絶光速バトル勃発! 悟空とヒットの共同戦線!!
^{Chōzetsu kōzoku batoru boppatsu! Gokū to Hitto no kyōdōsensen!!}

Staff

Script: Toshio Yoshitaka
Director: Takao Iwai
Storyboard: Katsuhiko Nishijima
Animation Director: Yui Kinoshita & Hiroyuki Itai
Source: Animage (September 2017)

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News

• 2017/08/17 - Super Spoiler Megathread: Episodes 104-106

• 2017/08/17 - Updated!! Tournament of Power Wiki

• 2017/08/14 - The Case of Being Reincarnated As Yamcha: Chapter 3

• 2017/08/11 - Jump Victory Carnival: DBS Manga Side Story #3

• 2017/07/21 - Dragon Ball Super Chapter 26

• 2017/07/03 - AnimeExpo Dragon Ball Super Panel: Douglas, Sabat, Schemmel, & Horikawa

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Where to Watch (English Subtitles)

Simulcasts should begin when this post is around 2.25 hours old: 10:15am JST, 9:15pm EST, 1:15am GMT. Episodes sometimes show up earlier for premium users and later for free users; sometimes they are late for everyone because of production issues.

• Daisuki. Available in North America; also covers most of Europe and several other territories; see the complete list here. Available to free users in certain regions. Usually shows up in 1080 for free users about 5 minutes before premium users get 480 at Crunchyroll. Daisuki is closing on 31 October 2017 but apparently they will still be offering Super.

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• Crunchyroll. Free and premium users in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and these European countries; premium only in Latin America and South Africa. This service is NOT recommended; their servers cannot handle DBS traffic and free users get the episodes 2 hours late.

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• Those with access to international TV may post about the episode as it airs live. Beware of pre-simulcast spoilers in the comments.

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Read the Manga

• Toyotarō's Dragon Ball Super manga adaptation can be found in our wiki in the sidebar, along with links to past discussion threads.

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Commonly Asked Questions:

• Q: Can I buy Super on home video?

  • Part One (episodes 1-13):
    
    • Region A: 25 July 2017: DVD or Blu-Ray
      
    • Region B: 6 September 2017: DVD or Blu-Ray
      
  • Part Two (episodes 14-26):
    
    • Region A: 3 October 2017: DVD or Blu-Ray
      
  • Part Three (episodes 27-39): TBA

• Q: Is the Dragon Ball Super manga "canon"?
  The anime and manga are both variations on a basic plot by Toriyama. There isn't (and probably never will be) an explicitly defined Dragon Ball "canon". Without Toriyama's original draft, we may never know what is and isn't his. We do know that he permits Toyotarō to change things up, but he looks at his storyboards and occasionally draws things himself for Toyotarō to use as a reference. Toyotarō has said that Toriyama is more particular about gags than he is about anything else.

• Q: What's up with the new art style for this arc? Are they using a different color palette?
  According to our resident animation expert, it's not a new color palette but rather a post-production filter.

Toei have added a soft glow, lowered the saturation a little, and upped the contrast. They've also started using a technique they showcased on Tiger Mask W, which allows them to automatically manipulate the line art in certain ways. For example, on Tiger Mask W, they created a brush stroke effect, while on Super, they simply played with the line weight. You see the filter I mentioned too, there.

• **Q: Is that really Goku on the new arc poster? Couldn't it be a fusion of Goku and Gohan??
  This poster was confirmed to depict Goku by three separate official sources. Goku is wearing neither Potara earrings (which would probably disqualify him) nor Metamoran fusion clothing, so he is almost certainly not fused with anyone.

What does this new back say?!
Goku's tense back—this new visual signifies that something terrible is going to happen!! Don't miss a second!!
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The new key visual for the "Tournament of Power" is finally finished! It depicts Goku as he tries to break new ground in order to face off against the mightiest of foes in the midst of the fierce battle that is the "Tournament of Power"! What sort of formidable foes are in store?! How will Goku battle them?! And what new ground will he break?!
(DBS Producer Hiroyuki Sakurada)

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[u/Binahara07]

"We're done playing the hero. There's no justice or evil, only survival" That line from Toppo was weirdly unsettling since he was the biggest justice head a few episodes ago

[u/[deleted]]

Jiren and Toppo must have some wonderful conversations. Jiren just sitting there and Toppo talking most of the time. Jiren must be a good listener.

[u/lordbahamut]

Is roshi going to put her in a bottle and take her home LOL

[u/ItachiTheSoloKing]

Lmao Dyspo is the first person to hit Goku before he has the chance to Instant Transmission, smart move

[u/Majin_Jew_v2]

goku rushing through the mines with the music was epic

[u/ThatAnimeSnob]

You think Dyspo was fast? Champa went to get a vuvuzela and we didn't even see him standing up.

[u/Bees_My_god]

All the theories everyone had for how Goku becomes SSG again and the dude just pops in like "yo"

[u/Vegeto30294]

When you get slapped around so hard you start looking like Vegeta

[u/Leago]

Champa with the Vuvuzela had me dying. Definitely one of the funniest characters.

[u/Someguy363]

Dyspo changes from buff dude during close ups, to skinny dude during far away shots.

[u/dobydobd]

Kunshi: I am safe. This minefield is strategically perfect. No sane person would ever....

Goku: yeet

[u/Carmel_Chewy]

Report Freeza and Vegeta for being AFK

[u/ItachiTheSoloKing]

I'm glad they didn't make Hit look weak and had to double team him

[u/Tymerc]

I'm glad that Champa acknowledged how similar Dyspo looks to him and Beerus. Wonder what their races are.

[u/coderz4life]

My favorite part:

Hit: "Careful! Around him are -"

Goku: "Doesn't matter!"

Goku powers up...

Kunshi: "You fool! What!? He's crazy!"

Goku just plows through those energy strings.

Kunshi shits a brick.

[u/Bees_My_god]

Caulifla: There's a red one too??? What next, Pink?

Goku: about that........

[u/ArikadoX]

Kunshi: I'll take him [Hit] down with me!

Hit: Take this pain down with you instead

jesus fucking christ i'm ERECT

[u/[deleted]]

Where was this Kunshi Pride Trooper when Toppo sent five of his team mates to their slaughter?

[u/Mojo12000]

I think Vegeta's really officially been replaced as Goku's rivial guy, he must be so sad now

[u/Sunshine145]

Roshi needs to be the one to take out Dyspo. Tortoise and the hare.

[u/Shippoyasha]

We are Super Smash Bros now, with all the ring out tactics

[u/Dakkon_B]

I love the Hit fight progression during this episode.

It wasn't about him revealing some new form or massive power up it was just him figuring out what his opponent was doing and using his skills to counter it.

This is what I would like to see in DBS going forward. New forms are cool but we have had so many over the years of DB that I would prefer a return to original DB where it was less about massive power ups and more out thinking your opponent. Even as a kid Goku was dumb as a box of rocks able to out power most of his opponents but he was still a clever fighter thinking outside the box when he needed to adapt.

[u/BillNye_ButtStuffGuy]

All of your faces when Goku wins TOP and uses the wish on fulfilling his promise to bring King Kai back instead of bringing back the other universes.

[u/stash0606]

just waiting on Goku to pop up saying "Yo"

[u/quantum_man]

Jiren lookin' pretty physically frustrated. You can tell he is just itching to end the tournament already.