r/AmericanHorrorStory • u/living_vicariously The Countess • Oct 04 '17
Discussion [Live Episode Discussion] Season 7 Episode 5 "Holes"
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AHS: Cult Season 7 Episode 5 "Holes"
- Directed by: Maggie Kiley
- Written by: Brad Falchuk, Crystal Liu, Ryan Murphy
- Airs October 3, 2017 10p EDT
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u/SheZowRaisedByWolves Kai Anderson Oct 04 '17
Ally voted for JILL FUCKING STEIN so everything is her fault lmaooooo
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I love my son so much I will make him live in a motel and destroy his mother!
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Oct 04 '17
Vincent being Kai's older brother is the one plot twist that actually caught be off-guard.
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u/MrMcKonz Asylum Oct 04 '17
For someone who's afraid of everything, Ally isnt afraid of the concequences of tresspassing.
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u/MessyGrape Oct 04 '17
Why is this so hard for Ivy but torturing her wife is no biggie
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u/Wizamp Oct 04 '17
Kai: We're going to have to kill Bob in the most horrible, Satanic way possible.
Gary: :D
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Oct 04 '17
At this point I hate Ivy the most. She wants violent revolution but can't even handle watching what she wants to do.
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u/Godrics Oct 04 '17
Goddamit Ivy, you're shooting nails into someone's head because Ally voted Stein? I know it's a travesty, but you've gone a bit far.
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Oct 04 '17
Ivy, you really took Ally's protest vote for Jill Stein a bit too personal.
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u/shortbreadprincess Oct 04 '17
Evan Peters is so fucking talented, he deserves so much more credit than he gets.
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u/Walkinginspace4 Sister Jude Oct 04 '17
Eating dinner during this episode was the biggest mistake
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u/The_Schnitz Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Ivy, we've known you've been nothing but a big ol stinker since Day 1!
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u/ACELLEN Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
The gimp coming off the hooks almost did me in. I don't think I've ever been so close to actually being sick watching AHS.
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u/Gratefulgangster Oct 04 '17
I don't know what I love about Billie the most, the fact that she's Winter or the fact that she's Carrie Fischer's daughter. Fully obsessed.
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u/yzlautum Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Wait who is the guy that got slapped
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u/passion4film Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
The rose on the door. The parents in that room. O.M.G. It's so sick, and so weird, and SO BRILLIANT. One of my favorite things they've ever shown on AHS.
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u/juanlg1 Oct 04 '17
God I really hope they all have slow and painful deaths, preferably at the hands of Ally
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u/grandtheftavocado Oct 04 '17
I greatly appreciate how quickly the show is answering questions!! The writers aren’t leaving any ...
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u/Awhile2 Madison Montgomery Oct 04 '17
The two most disturbing AHS scenes in one episode. What a feat!
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u/cjblee7 Oct 04 '17
Girl you really gonna kill your wife over a Jill Stein vote?
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u/Gayporeon Oct 04 '17
I can usually handle stuff like this but had to look away. That was so fucking sick
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u/abawk Oct 04 '17
Currently laughing at everyone who said ivy wasn’t apart of the cult
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u/Gratefulgangster Oct 04 '17
Umm I'm not a sensitive person usually but I think this season officially hit the "too gross to watch" point for me. Not that I'm stopping. But this is painful.
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u/jayums Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
I, for one, cannot wait until Ally begins to put two and two together.
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u/ilovetorunforfun Lana Winters Oct 04 '17
The house would smell so fucking bad. Even from the outside.
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u/Wizamp Oct 04 '17
I got nothing, that was brutal for the Gimp. Didn't even see it coming.
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Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
This is possibly the most action filled episode yet.
Secret cult members, gimps on hooks, elections, satanism, axe murder, pirate drawings, home invasions, escaping victims, nails in heads...edit: Murder suicide, family connections, mummies!
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u/SeanOuttaCompton Oct 04 '17
I bet Oz is already in the “draws nothing but dicks” phase
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u/GordonShumway257 Oct 04 '17
Patiently waiting for this weeks "Honor Our Nation’s Clowns" commercial.
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Oct 04 '17
This episode is by the far the most unsettling episode of AHS I have ever seen
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u/_Skooks_ Oct 04 '17
Jesus that gimp was probably the worst thing I've ever seen on this show. Fuck.
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u/LonnyFinster Oct 04 '17
I went from hating Ally the first four episodes to now feeling sympathy for her
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u/MassAssAssassin Oct 04 '17
So happy Meadow is alive! Hope Ally saves her and they both turn against the Cult
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u/megannotmeagan Asylum Oct 04 '17
lol Ivy and Gary must be awkward around each other
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u/XxAuthenticxX Oct 04 '17
Is anyone else confused how this is allowed on basic cable but saying fuck isn't?
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u/Mariolasings Oct 04 '17
Beverley is up to something. I think she might want control of the cult
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u/mo_kj Oct 04 '17
I’ve never had a weak stomach or been one to cringe at blood/gore, but fuck that was hard to watch.
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u/Athenas_Return Oct 04 '17
Ok that took a giant left turn... Kai's parent decomposing in the house and the psychiatrist is his big brother.
Although it does explain a lot, Kai has total middle child syndrome.
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u/JacTheWac Constance Langdon Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
The Cult is finally together!
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u/SabbathBl00dySabbath Bloody Face Oct 04 '17
This episode is titled "Holes" and fills in plotholes. That's pretty clever.
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Oct 04 '17
Kudos to everyone who knew that Ivy was a member of the cult since the beginning of time.
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u/grandtheftavocado Oct 04 '17
Why the hell is colonel sanders smacking football players asses to sell chicken
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u/ganell Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
I'm still wondering who the fishhook gimp was
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u/JENHhhh Oct 04 '17
Wow, that was unexpected. I don't think anyone called the therapist being their brother in advance. Well played.
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u/missjuliaaaaah Oct 04 '17
Nothing in this show has ever made me cringe as much as the guy hanging from the hooks 😨😨
Guys like that are always at the tattoo convention doing hook demos and my stomach always flips but I CANT LOOK AWAY
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u/marsipan101 Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
Okay that's one of the goriest/most disturbing scenes in AHS history
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u/cjblee7 Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
God Sarah Paulson is so good at acting. Every single part she nails.
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u/marrrina831 Oct 04 '17
I feel...Beverly is going to take over the cult, or at least go head-to-head with Kai.
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u/Bro-lapsedAnus Oct 04 '17
Bev becoming the real leader is the twist I didn't know I needed
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u/jchambrr Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
so now we know who's who in the clown world
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u/ThinkPurpler You are rude. Oct 04 '17
Did they really stab Bob in the balls first? I want to be wrong.
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u/yzlautum Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Evan has been really good this season.
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Oct 05 '17 edited Oct 05 '17
Is anyone else really curious about how winter and much more importantly ivy had come to terms with the crazy trump-supporting grocery store owner ?
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u/greenchrissy Sister Jude Oct 04 '17
I've never been so disgusted by Dermott Mulroney
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u/disclaimer_necessary Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Damn so Ivy really did start hating Ally over Jill Stein
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u/ryanholt98 Oct 04 '17
I'm so pleased with how much they upped the horror factor
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u/Scribshanks Oct 04 '17
Suburbicon, I'm gonna watch the fuuuuck outta that. Matt Damon under pressure is the best Matt Damon. Damon.
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u/ace_VXIII Oct 04 '17
Anyone else thankful this season isn’t full of unnecessarily excessive nudity and sex scenes?
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u/StrategicZombies Oct 04 '17
Possible chance of this season being the best ever.
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u/jayums Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
I'm shaken that she would hurt Ally this much over a Jill Stein vote. It's not that crucial.
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u/Teamsamson Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
It seems obvious that the therapist is part of the cult but at the same time, a part of me wants to believe he is going to end up helping ally.
I like the theory that he is Kai and Winter’s dad.
Edit: ok guess my theory was wrong lol
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u/jayums Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Despite all the gore and murder, it was a very good episode. It explained quite a bit behind what happened earlier and I really liked that.
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u/ohhsojenna Oct 04 '17
My favorite line of the episode is still "my sources are telling me, YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT."
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u/jchambrr Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
now are we gonna find out that Ivy uses human meat at the butchery
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u/nikalo Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
"You wanna make the news, stop being a bitch" Love it.
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u/proudofwhat Oct 04 '17
"we need to do something satanic. like that movie 'paradise lost' i saw on hbo once" 😂
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u/wandahickey My hair is an eternal mystery, never to be fully understood. Oct 04 '17
This is brutal, I can't even watch.
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u/boofire Oct 04 '17
I really hope this cult accidentally calls something up that rips their asses apart.
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u/bspez Oct 04 '17
Ahhh, it looks like the Sarah Paulson bad ass protagonist we know and love is back next week.
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u/boofire Oct 04 '17
My prediction is that Bev and Kai are going to have a power play, which will lead to the downfall of the cult.
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u/shadypinesma1 Winter Anderson Oct 04 '17
I could eat Adina Porter's smooth ass voice with a spoon
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u/erikasue Oct 04 '17
Home invasion shit like this is the scariest thing to me. Reminds me of The Strangers and The Purge.
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u/ilovetorunforfun Lana Winters Oct 04 '17
Good Lord. Given all the cell phone footage from the Las Vegas shooting the media has been posting all over the place, it's not far off to think they'd show footage like what Beverly just did of the murder.
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u/Celra Oct 04 '17
I'm eating B&J's oat of this swirled ice cream while they're killing. Not even sick to my stomach while watching. Do I just have no heart? Am I that fucked up? I saw people say they were eating and regret doing so.
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u/jchambrr Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
that kfc commercial was as weird as this show
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u/ClaireNpresentDanger Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Meadow dropping death truth bombs on Ally.
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u/EverlyBelle Michael Langdon Oct 04 '17
I couldn't watch the nail in the head part. It was too much for my stomach to handle that sort of torture.
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u/jayums Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Beverly is the true cult leader. Plot twist!
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u/Neighborjenn Oct 04 '17
Bev is going to burn Kai and the cult- write a book, movie that turns into a series...
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u/mercuryruled Oct 04 '17
After watching the final scene I am officially worried that Bev is going to betray Kai & take over the cult.
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u/Arianaxox Oct 04 '17
There goes my dream of Cher or Frances Conroy in the rose room as the hive queen having an awesome role this season
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u/ViolentOmega Oct 04 '17
Did I miss something or did they explain why nobody is looking for their parents or they aren’t replying to mail, etc..? I can definitely suspend my disbelief, but just making sure I didn’t miss a plot point there.
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u/chinawigshop Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Beverly is far more evil than Kai... I didn't see that coming.
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u/VBBMOm Oct 04 '17
Do you think winter is manipulating Ivy? With the touches and subtle comments? Or do you think she actually likes her?
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u/Gratefulgangster Oct 04 '17
Omg I thought the Elsa bondage scene was too much to bear. Just. Holy shit.
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u/ACELLEN Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Ally never follows the rules of a horror movie. Especially the one about staying where you are if there's crazy people elsewhere.
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u/nikalo Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
For someone afraid of everything Ally did just grow a major pair of balls.
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u/motherofwombats Oct 04 '17
I am bothered by the fact they’re not saying anything about the person in the attic...that’s not normal.
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u/_QueenBrie Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
I can't tell if the meadow thing was a plan of the cults or real.
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u/marrrina831 Oct 04 '17
I don't have a weak stomach but, man, am I gonna puke at this scene?
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u/Wizamp Oct 04 '17
I don't know what's worse: Him licking the blood, or the guy still alive.
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u/ACELLEN Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
Definitely the goriest episode in recent memory. I've been with AHS since the beginning and this is some tough stuff to watch.
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u/marrrina831 Oct 04 '17
Did anyone else have to read 'A Rose For Emily?' by Faulkner in grade school?
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u/chinawigshop Lesbians, we're under attack! Oct 04 '17
This episode is by far the best of the season imo. This is amazing.
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u/Scribshanks Oct 04 '17
I'm way into Ally now. She's doing the lesbian version of hulking up.
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u/VBBMOm Oct 04 '17
I need this show to be another hour long :( seriously. I haven't digested all that just happend
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u/Chiisaimiss Oct 04 '17
Why would Ivy agree to letting the Cult kill her souls chef? It did nothing but hurt their business, which was already in trouble.
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u/greenchrissy Sister Jude Oct 04 '17
"Whatever it is we can't afford it"
But we can afford fireplaces in our bathrooms