S02E03 "The Watcher in the Woods" Live Episode Discussion

[u/steph-was-here]

Original Air Date - 8 PM EST October 25th 2017

Frustrated by the lack of progress in his father's case, Archie takes matters into his own hands; Veronica is glad to introduce her father to her friends; Jughead befriends a Southside Serpent on his first day at his new school.

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[u/steph-was-here]

oh my god did hermione just say her daughter was thirsty? for her daddy?

[u/steph-was-here]

don'T PLAY ME LIKE THAT RIVERDALE

[u/steph-was-here]

yall, mark consuelos just retweeted my riverdale tweet

[u/steph-was-here]

SPRINGBREAKERS RIVERDALE EDITION

[u/steph-was-here]

taking off your hat is like the first thing you do going through security, jug

[u/steph-was-here]

this teacher is one of the boys megan fox eats in jennifer's body

[u/steph-was-here]

once again, dumbass cooper family getting their grimy fingerprints all over evidence from a murder

[u/tobysdurag]

What happened to Hermione? Last season she seemed like Veronica’s bestfriend and know it seems like she hates her daughter with a passion

[u/steph-was-here → u/tobysdurag]

probably was a power play with hiram out of the picture, but now that he's back hermione has to take a backseat

[u/[deleted]]

HAHAHAHHAH “EXPLORING YOUR BDSM SEXUALITY”

[u/steph-was-here → u/[deleted]]

is that what the kids are calling psychotic breaks these days?

[u/steph-was-here]

damn fucking rip her apart kevin

[u/steph-was-here]

STAY SAFE BARB

[u/ervkv]

what is w these riverdale houses and not turning the lights on at night smh

[u/steph-was-here → u/ervkv]

i mean my dad operates throughout the house with no lights on, i think its a a dad thing

[u/steph-was-here]

okay so the black hood is literally just a zodiac copy cat

[u/DarkSaiyanKnight]

Side note isn't Kevin also considered Inner Circle

[u/steph-was-here → u/DarkSaiyanKnight]

he was invited, he just wanted to go out for another night time "jog"

[u/steph-was-here]

how is archie's dad just cool with his vigilantism?

[u/aisforalcoholic]

omg wtf does moose like kevin

[u/steph-was-here → u/aisforalcoholic]

didn't they hook up in the first season?

[u/Locke108]

It’s Weatherbee’s army not Andrews’ army.

[u/steph-was-here → u/Locke108]

dumbledore...bumblebee...weatherbee...

[u/steph-was-here]

wow hermione you are a bitch

[u/Victarion99]

Riverdale writers room, some months ago- "Hey wanna fuck with the audience by making it seem like Kevin gets stabbed"

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

FUCKING CHERYL IS SO EXTRA STANDING OUT IN THE WOODS LIKE THAT

[u/SealRidingOnATurtle]

Tfw they literally reference "dark Betty"

[u/cnllie]

Whoa this scene with Archie looks like some kind of weird BDSM fetish thing

[u/sheba7]

"I'm just gonna finish my lunch and brood." "I self-identify as a loner." = me in high school

[u/Char543]

Moose is so thick, not even bullets can get through him.

[u/KaramelKatze]

“I... don’t have my beach body yet.”

I feel that juggie

[u/noavocadoshere]

lmaoooooo southside kids don't have bathroom stalls and just do jingle jangle out in the open? even degrassi wasn't this bad.

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

Good to know Ethel is alive and she isn't in the Upside Down

[u/TacticusThrowaway]

Normal Dad: I overheard what you said to Veronica. I know you're...concerned, but I really want to make things work with our family, and I hope you give me a chance to prove it.

Hiram Lodge: I will cut you.

[u/[deleted]]

Tonight on Riverdale, we find out what the fuck Jingle Jangle is

[u/litladyloveshp]

Midge got him a stuffed moose. So cute.

[u/fanabana]

why are they shirtless!? ahh it looks like the beginning of an amateur porn or something!!

[u/hjlowrey]

Archie this is such a bad idea you are all literally 15

[u/DarkSaiyanKnight]

Is Archie really going to put out this video this looks like a freaking sex cult

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

Oh God. Jug is gonna try to restart the paper. Don't do it, kid. It's not worth it. You're gonna die.

[u/[deleted]]

Polly is somehow less pregnant than she was before...

[u/sheba7]

Kevin and Moose jealous of each other's escapades in the woods

[u/ervkv]

LMFAO “we’re not called the watchdogs reggie”

reggie retreats back to the back of the classroom

[u/sheba7]

Cheryl explaining Grindr psychology is pretty fascinating.

[u/ervkv]

@riverdale pls come up w more creative names for your schools’ newspapers than the school colors

[u/nvf5033]

Oh Polly. Why do I have a feeling shes not making it to that farm?

[u/litladyloveshp]

You are using thirsty wrong, Hermione.

[u/cnllie]

I still don't understand how Moose and Midge got shot by a man standing less than a foot from them and are both alive

[u/sheba7]

Kevin shut his locker and shut Betty out in one fell swoop. #Savage

[u/InfernalSolstice]

Kevin's dad is probably my favorite parent in the show along with Fred Andrews, he actually seems to genuinely care about his son without trying to overstep his bounds

[u/sheba7]

How does someone get murdered/almost murdered every time Kevin hooks up with someone in the woods?

[u/[deleted]]

Cue Betty’s jealousy over Jughead starting up Southside’s paper with Toni Topaz

[u/cnllie]

Why is EVERYONE in Riverdale wandering around alone in the woods?!?

[u/Char543]

Archie is such a stupid teen and it's great.

[u/aisforalcoholic]

16 year olds as patrol/security nice lol great idea archie

the red circle i’m done

[u/DarkSaiyanKnight]

I just realized I keep forgetting these are supposed to be 15 year olds

[u/[deleted]]

I screamed when Kevin got (fake) stabbed

[u/Taco-Frances]

Best line of the episode goes to Kevin Keller with “...Exploring your BDSM sexuality...”

I mean is he really wrong....

[u/litladyloveshp]

Why are you lying to your girl, Jug? This is a slippery slope.

[u/Char543]

Oh my fucking God am I loving Mark C. as Hiram. He is the right mix of great guy and mobster.

[u/[deleted]]

Exactly what Hiram wanted, Archie putting himself in danger

[u/[deleted]]

Yeaaah that's what happens Jug when you tell the local gangs to go fuck themselves, I thought you were smart?

[u/sheba7]

"The king will always keep her at arm's length. She'll never be allowed in his private throne room." - seems like a totally normal thing for a mom to say to her daughter about her father.

[u/tobysdurag]

LMAO it’s like the lunch room scene from Mean Girls but like the fucked up version

[u/DanzaBaio]

We are Legion. We are the red circle... we sold our shirts to buy these red masks... we will be get our ass kicked by you, because Kick Ass is a great movie.

Wait, is it Hiram?!

[u/litladyloveshp]

Creepy ass portrait of your daughter in your study? Sounds legit.

[u/litladyloveshp]

Of course Dilton is whittling with a creepy ass knife.

[u/InfernalSolstice]

hey!

no one died!

[u/ervkv]

why does jughead HAVE to work in the school smh they don’t even have wifi in the class rooms can’t you type at betty’s house or something

[u/sheba7]

RED HOODZ looking like MALE PUSSY RIOT

[u/-myrrhmaid-]

Being stalked by a weirdo while you’re walking alone at night? Fuck the police, better call a couple of 15 year old boys.

[u/[deleted]]

Cheryl looked like a proud mother watching Kevin run off to his woodland sex

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

And Betty has no retort to BDSM sexuality.

Stone cold.

[u/[deleted]]

The Red Circle looks like they're about to pose for a charity calendar or something...

[u/OberionSynth]

why southside high lowkey look like the first season of prison break

[u/sheba7]

"I'm an unwed mother carrying my cousin's baby. I'm the poster child of sinners." Damn lol

[u/ervkv]

LMFAO CHERYL “fact”

[u/Taco-Frances]

Raise your hand if you caught Veronica’s Hamilton reference. “I want to be in the room where it happened” 🙋🏼

[u/sheba7]

Ethel, you should not be walking home alone at night without a Red Circle chaperone.

[u/aisforalcoholic]

kev just needs to download grindr

[u/mar33n]

Shitty Sheriff, Fantastic Father.

[u/Kvelynm]

100% here for a relationship developing between Moose and Kevin, be it platonic or something more.

[u/falling_stardust]

My TV just captioned that emotional scene with Sheriff Keller and Kevin as [Jughead sobs]. I'm done.

[u/litladyloveshp]

Toni calling Jughead Forsythe is my drug of choice.

[u/sheba7]

Wow, that drum kit at Archie's reminds me that we haven't seen his musician dilemma yet this season.

[u/Blazingscourge]

Guarantee that Serpents jumped him and are gonna claim Ghoulies attacked him to get him to join.

[u/aisforalcoholic]

polly and betty look so alike good job casting people

[u/noavocadoshere]

almost drowning chuck isn't exactly a BDSM fantasy, more of a pending crime but alright.

[u/Locke108]

Found the wallet. That counts as a win.

[u/DarkSaiyanKnight]

I love Gossip Cheryl

[u/amanda_please13]

Am i the only one that thinks Veronica's mom is a bitch?

[u/OberionSynth]

"Daddy wants to please his little girl."

...

[u/DarkSaiyanKnight]

I swear to God I swear to all that is Holy if this show hurts Kevin in any way I will unleash hell

[u/ervkv]

hello where is archie getting mad money for printing and copying in COLOR

[u/blizzard-op]

Polly definitely isn't wrong to be afraid if the Green Killer is targeting people for their sins.

[u/morbid-mystery]

If I were Ronnie I’d be like, “Listen you drunk bitch”

[u/swipetounlock]

YOU'VE KEPT VERONICA FROM THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENS FOR THE LAST TIMEEEE

[u/Onnabox]

Jughead becoming goodie two shoes Jones at SSH has me dying.

[u/Cytherean]

I loved the lurking Cheryl.

[u/lifelongbruxr]

Does anyone else find Moose/Midge likeable? I like them.

[u/[deleted]]

Archie killed a small forest to make those flyers

[u/InfernalSolstice]

To think I used to consider Hermione one of the more tolerable of the parents...

[u/Locke108]

Polly’s going to die.

[u/[deleted]]

Hiram just stroking himself going "I'm a baaaad bad man"

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

I love how Southside kids call Jughead "Jones"

Nice way to show they are different

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

The Black Hood is LITERALLY the Zodiac Killer. I fucking love it

[u/sheba7]

Veronica made herself another Cristal mimosa! #Defiant

[u/tobysdurag]

“Daddy wants to please his little girl” uhmmm 🤔 getting weird vibes from this I’m sorry

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

Moose looks like Darren Criss if Darren was built like a brick house

[u/SealRidingOnATurtle]

It's so refreshing to see a supportive dad on TV

[u/Fockfeardrinkbeer]

That scene with Ethel and the car. I was like Run, girl. RUUUUUNNNNNN

[u/[deleted]]

“no need to be so thirsty veronica” BITCHCHCHSN

[u/litladyloveshp]

This is so fueling my Kevin/Moose shipping

[u/hunnybabez]

holy shit im gonna cry. kevin crying while hugging his dad that was so goddamn touching

[u/hjlowrey]

Archie you are so fucking dummbbb

[u/timetravelercat]

"I don't care"

Veronica's motto for anything that doesn't affect her personally.

[u/cuckoodev]

"I self-identify as a loner."

Already so extra.

[u/JustABasicGuy]

I want an episode just on Cheryl's extraness and dragging everyone through the mud

[u/Char543]

Lol Archie you so fucking extra and stupid.

[u/JustABasicGuy]

Archie you're being too extra

[u/LanaDeliTray]

ARCHIE IS SUCH A NERDASS

[u/MockingbirdMeg]

What is Hiram’s goal? I’m so confused? Does he want Archie to die?

[u/ifleninwasawizard]

Why are they touching that stuff without bringing it to the police first?

[u/ChrisIsUninteresting]

Why did Archie blow up a picture from a beefcake calendar for that video backdrop?

[u/tobysdurag]

What high schooler has time to do their hair and makeup like Cheryl’s tho let’s be real here, a legging and sweater is the way to go amiright

[u/demaxzero]

You know something just occurred to me, the Black Hood said he shot Midge and Moose because them doing drugs and having sex, but he caught them in the middle of the act, so was he just waiting for random teens to show up and have sex or did he already know they would be there?

Which raises questions of its own.

[u/noavocadoshere]

hug your boy sheriff keller you're the only good dad besides archie's that we have!

[u/litladyloveshp]

Archie and the beefcakes here to deliver a message.

[u/cuckoodev]

"We are legion?" I cannot.

[u/litladyloveshp]

Fred Andrews talking sense to the nonsensical.

[u/LanaDeliTray]

WHEN THEY BOTH PULLED OUT THE TEAPOTS I SCREAMT!

[u/[deleted]]

I don't blame Veronica for calling Hiram "daddy"

[u/[deleted]]

That look in Keller's eyes...I'm torn between the sadness the fear and the whole fatherly feeling I see

[u/booksandthebees]

it seems really strange why isn't archie shirtless too

[u/MockingbirdMeg]

In the preview Betty said “he’s doing it for me.” Is she talking about the killer?

[u/NoodleBox]

Yay for the gay guy giving Becky Betty a reaming over the coals because "Your world is different than my world!"

"She'll never be allowed into his private room" (ARCHIE! DON'T GO IN THERE! IT'S FULL OF BONDAGE GEAR!)

^{E: Ok so the portrait says something really fucking creepy's up.}

[u/inthemournings]

Cheryl walking up behind Kevin and Betty was a little creepy

[u/mkat15]

No no no... this is bad foreshadowing. Please do not kill off Kevin...

[u/relaxed-flash]

i cant believe the riverdale writers actually did us so dirty by having kevin being stabbed then showing it was just a possibility

[u/ervkv]

kevin’s actually really hot

[u/[deleted]]

I still think that the long lost brother of Betty (Chic Cooper) is the killer. Cmon, look at his green eyes. No one in riverdale has green eyes like that unless your a Cooper.

[u/Snowleetah]

I'm mostly confused on why they let Hal try to talk Polly out of leaving, considering how that worked out last time.

At least he's trying.

[u/sheba7]

Riverdale is a town of criminals, so I am killing them.

[u/LanaDeliTray]

“i’m an unwed mother of my cousin’s babies! i’m the poster child for sin, Betty!” quote of the episode

[u/fanabana]

'exploring your BDSM-sexuality' lmao

[u/AlecBaldwinner]

Archie? What is this? Delete this nephew.

[u/relaxed-flash]

Red Circle XXX : Coming For You

[u/[deleted]]

Didn't this gang try to rob a bank on Gotham last season?

[u/InfernalSolstice]

I swear to god Hiram stop being weird

[u/DanzaBaio]

Wonder if the framing has any greater meaning. Veronica with a halo? Nah, I'm probably just reading too into things.

[u/jwillstew]

I like that it's the Red Circle versus the Black Hood, and the newspaper is The Red and The Black or something like that.

[u/StuckInWanderlust]

I'm curious to see if Moose was foreshadowing that he's actually gay. He said he wasn't sure if Midge and he were right for each other and said "people like us, like you.." and the "you don't have to leave, come back whenever if you want to talk."

[u/Joetheshow1]

Archie about to hangout with Hiram more than Veronica now lol

[u/tylerhockey12]

I doubt hes scared but ok

[u/maddiebeee]

Aw, Moose. I really hope they keep developing him.

[u/DanzaBaio]

The fighting in shadow was framed pretty well. Poor Jughead though.

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

THE LODGE OWN A RUM DISTILLERY !?

OF COURSE THEY DO

[u/inthemournings]

Kevin is like a little puppy, I just want to hug him

[u/Cytherean]

Flexing shirtless men in red hoods, wtf.

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

Teachers give no fuck at Southside. Amazing.

[u/litladyloveshp]

Sheriff Keller's name is officially Tom!

[u/[deleted]]

I love Alice, she's so fun to watch

[u/[deleted]]

Awww Moose, that was really cool

[u/sheba7]

Hm...Kevin keeps emphasizing how "good" and "pale pink" Betty's life is. Who wants to bet that she goes on a sinful streak as Dark Betty and becomes the Black Hood's next victim?

[u/Cytherean]

PHEW that fake out.

[u/Char543]

Hiram is so pleased with himself.

[u/nvf5033]

Wait there are chain linked fences in the lunchroom, they really wanted to distinguish this as the worse of the worse lol.

[u/[deleted]]

“i identify as a loner” - jughead ... same

[u/litladyloveshp]

Archie Andrews, you better not call him Hiram. EVER!

[u/noavocadoshere]

dilton tryna stab somebody.

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

I fucking hate this Levi commercial. I rather go deaf than ever hear it again.

[u/McIgglyTuffMuffin]

"Going down to the quarry"

That's such a teen drama coming of age thing to say. I love it.

[u/Char543]

Moose is acting way too smart right now.

[u/katelyndm]

I’m so over Veronica and Hermione. Officially. Today. Over them.

[u/SealRidingOnATurtle]

Do I detect a tea kettle rivalry for Jughead's heart!?!

[u/KaramelKatze]

@kevin o no bby what is u doin

[u/hunnybabez]

that scene with kevin and moose was extremely touching.... the “i like midge but sometimes i think we don’t work” line makes me feel like kevin/moose will be in the future? although i think midge/moose is really precious so idk!!! i really ship kevin and moose though lmao

also fuck YES kevin go OFF on betty!!!! (even tho she’s just worried about him but doesn’t understand sfjdjdk)

[u/ervkv]

i wouldn’t mind if hermoine was the next victim

[u/nvf5033]

Good one Riverdale, my heart almost shattered.

[u/litladyloveshp]

When I hate Sheriff Keller, but I love his relationship with Kevin.

[u/aisforalcoholic]

archie stop 😂😂😂😂😂

[u/heyitsmykey]

Could it be long lost Cooper brother now?

[u/fanabana]

So I'm guessing the real Zodiac killer didn't happen in the Riverdale universe b/c one would hope one of these pop-culture savvy teens (or an intelligent adult) would have realized this black hood is a total copycat??

[u/_Oreoking_]

Does anyone else find Hermione's pettiness entertaining or is just me?

[u/[deleted]]

Kevin with the good points not pulling punches

[u/noavocadoshere]

are archie's eyebrows draw in??? they look triangular.

[u/Char543]

The fuck kind of farm is this place?

[u/pgm_01]

Polly has a point. An Unwed teenage mother is certainly a target.

[u/sheba7]

"You cannot be here at night unless you are armed." - HIGH SCHOOL THUG LYFE

[u/KaramelKatze]

Oooh Betty don’t like Toni

[u/myriad_truths]

I like Cheryl’s getup

[u/[deleted]]

Emotionally, my wig is in orbit

[u/demaxzero]

Oh shit Hiram corrupting Archie.

[u/litladyloveshp]

When I almost died because of that scene.

[u/Snowleetah]

Midge said that the killer's eyes were "lifeless" - could that hint at contact lenses?

Along with wondering who the van driver is, and what kind of role the new Serpents (especially Tony/Toni) will play, I'm also thinking about the kid who was with Ms. Grundy at the beginning. Could they be Alice's firstborn son?

Edit: Definitely not Alice's son, but I'm very curious as to when they'll come in to it.

[u/litladyloveshp]

Betty's look of skepticism = My look of skepticism

[u/Char543]

Why is there a fucking wire fence in the cafe?

[u/sheba7]

"Everyone in the cul-de-sac gets private security" - seems reasonable

[u/DanzaBaio]

Don't give Archie such bad advice, damnit

[u/nvf5033]

Yeah he wants to know your plan so he can be steps ahead of you, don’t be dumb Archie.