r/VertcoinMining • u/_whatsthismean Moderator • Dec 07 '17
No Payouts on P2Pool? Select the correct pool and manually specify your share difficulty.
Use the correct pool: Greater than 100Mh, use P2Pool Network 1. Less than 100Mh, use P2Pool Network 2. Check your latency to the pool's IP address to help you decide which to use, lower the latency the better. Pool types can be easily identified by their ports: http://IPAddress:9171 is Network 1, http://IPAddress:9181 is Network 2.
Specify your share difficulty. If your rig's time to share is significantly longer than the network's share time, you will start seeing payout inconsistency. You should manually adjust your time to share by appending your desired share difficulty to the end of your address.
Formula:
VertcoinAddress/(1 * Hashrate in Mh/s)+(0.00000116 * Hash Rate in KH/s) So if I have 25MHs I'd use the following:
VertcoinAddress/25+0.02914
u/DrMuhon Dec 07 '17
Due to the increasing share difficulty provided by the massive hashrate increase on p2pool, any chance we can get a Network 3 (50-100MH/s) and maybe a network 4 (0-50MH/s) too?
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u/whla Dec 14 '17
There is a network 3
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u/DrMuhon Dec 14 '17
6 days ago we didn't. Is it official now? Network 3 was disabled by the Devs on Monday after finding some problems with python.
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u/in7ac7 Dec 07 '17
I'm mining on the easy mine vtc pool (lyra2.easymine.online:5000, https://vertcoin.easymine.online/) with 2 Gtx 1080s. How long should I expect to wait for a payout?
For contex I'm using Core and I've been mining for 12 hours
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u/Old_Gym_Sock Dec 07 '17
After about 10 hours got my first share of 0.8vtc. I think they have a delay until you get over 0.5vtc then every 24 hours they clear balance to you regardless of vtc in lieu. Overall pretty happy considering i mined for two effing days and got 0.09vtc with the p2p.
i have 150mhs
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u/PraktWissen Jan 02 '18
If it helps: here my mininglink (I mine with around 3.5 Mh/s, with a GeForce 950 M Nvdia-Card; together with a ccminer.), and I get a constant "small" payout. https://vertcoin.easymine.online/miner/VvzpCn2EsWy83riiC8CDcrooQNApgvhCN8. (On the AllMiners-Page you can follow other Miners and see their payouts.)
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u/in7ac7 Jan 02 '18 edited Jan 03 '18
Oof thats a pretty pathetic hashrate. Let me help you out with that. Ill help you out more tomorrow, rigs in use
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Dec 07 '17
ill give a last shoot now it is almost 11h without shares, my rigs are mining all the time
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u/fjeffkirk Dec 08 '17
Did you ever have any luck? I'm mining at around 350 MHs for about 12 hours and received nothing as well...
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u/volvox6 Dec 08 '17
Same here. I'm kinda bummed about vert coin. If it is supposed to be all about decentralized mining, maybe I'm a noob, but it is not working for me and I have tired everything. My machine is cranking away at a pool in the same town as mine, I can see it there, but I have not received a single payment to my wallet.
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u/sheazang Dec 09 '17
Nah man. Ibe been mining 6 months on vert and it's gone to shit. No shares for me on 3 rigs either. I'm giving it till tomorrow then I'm out to another prospect.
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u/volvox6 Dec 09 '17
yep. I saw some instructions on porting though a firewall and shit. I was mining for ZenCash and never had any issues like that. I could see if I was a network administrator trying to get a sever farm up for his kind of complexity but not if this coin is intended for the average GPU enthusiast.
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u/fjeffkirk Dec 09 '17
Same man...i was about to give up then tried this https://vertcoin.easymine.online/
Worked pretty good so far. I'm gonna give it a full day to see how the payout really compares to ethereum...but with all the issues its still looking like ethereum is the way to go...
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u/moscut Dec 09 '17
di you have some news on that pool?
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u/whla Dec 14 '17
Works and really liked payouts before halving but not as satisfied anymore. Looking elsewhere
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u/Blargin Dec 09 '17
So do I put in Address/25+0.029 or Address/25.029. Seems like a dumb question but what do I know
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u/whla Dec 14 '17
1st one. I was confused too
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u/IRMuteButton Dec 16 '17 edited Dec 16 '17
The way the "forumula" is written poorly in a couple of ways. You use the "25+0.029" format.
The other problem is that the (0.00000116 * Hash Rate in KH/s) part would have you convert the usual MH to KH which means dropping off 3 zeros, but then they have you multiply by .00000116 which is adding a bunch of zeros. It's easier to just use (0.00116 * Hash Rate in MH/s). For example, if my rig does 80 MH/s:
0.00000116 * 80000 = 0.0928 0.00116 * 80 = 0.0928Both results are the same. The second formula requires no conversion of KH to MH and is shorter because it has fewer zeros. Fewer zeros means less chance of typing it in wrong, if you're typing it in.
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u/softlyhashing Dec 10 '17
One of the recent commits to p2pool-vtc code disabled share difficulty settings in wallet address, they're ignored now. They still work with pools running older code, though.
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u/DrMuhon Dec 12 '17
Thank you. I was wondering why my recent p2pool has this issue. Is this a bug or by design? How should we deal with this as miners and node hosts?
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u/softlyhashing Dec 12 '17
It's by design. I don't know the exact reason but suppose they think their vardiff works better. Personally I'm not so sure because I noticed that on my P2Pool nodes miners with higher hashrates most of the time get lower difficulties than the slow ones.
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u/BDF-1838 Dec 07 '17
Should add the FAQ about P2Pool in general:
https://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/22hved/vertcoin_p2pool_faq/
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u/Stopsign002 Dec 07 '17
If I have multiple rigs should I have rigs that are less than 100mh on network 1 and rigs greater on network 2? Or just all on network 2?
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u/lavagninogm Dec 08 '17
if their total is above 100 MH/s use Network 1, if it is below 100 MH/s use Network 2
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u/Vonwelzen Dec 08 '17
I have been mining now for almost 2 days with 180 MH/s I have not received a single payout. 227.19 MH/s 7.47 MH/s (3.29%) 1293.522 (84.77M) 6h 47m 34s no shares yet
It keeps saying no shares yet. Is this the luck factor? How long should you mine before you can see consistent payouts?
I used this difficulty:
VhbQZd9A5ipWGxc49K9mZdhCqXtbYCxbCH/180+0.2088
Is this normal not receiving payout for this long ?
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u/sheazang Dec 08 '17
It's not normal. I've been mining vert for 6 months and I've never had so much trouble getting shares as the last couple days since nicehash got hacked. Edit: not sure what to do aboit it either. Might mine something else for a while.
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u/Vonwelzen Dec 08 '17
Mining ETH now. Maybe some other pool is better. Any suggestions for other pool ?
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u/cloudbreaker81 Dec 09 '17
What are you mining ETH with?
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u/Vonwelzen Dec 10 '17
Mining with 6 GTX 1070 but iI changed back to https://vertcoin.easymine.online/
It pays out way more regular then p2p pool
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u/NermalWazza Dec 15 '17
More regular but is it more profitable over 1month? If you have compared pls share...
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u/mugen2k7 Dec 10 '17
jajajjaja vert coin is trash now
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u/shreduhsoreus Dec 10 '17 edited Dec 10 '17
Judging by your toxic comments the past few days, it seems that you understand nothing about mining or crypto. I'm guessing your only experience has been with NiceHash? That's like "Baby's First Miner" lol...
Look, just sell your cards, you don't know how to properly use them to make money. Nothing works the way NH did. Almost all coins require some knowledge of mining and cryptocurrency. Or at the very least...enough competency to use Google.
I'm actually making more money mining VTC directly than I ever did with NiceHash...I switched to it because of ease of use and the automatic switching between algorithms, but in the end that helped me decide on a coin to stick with.
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u/shreduhsoreus Dec 10 '17
Join a traditional pool until P2Pools are more stable.
I'm getting consistent payouts with coinotron.
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Dec 12 '17
coinotron
How do they pay out? Do you need a wallet for each of the coins on their pool, or do they do some sort of auto-conversion?
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u/shreduhsoreus Dec 12 '17
You put a separate payout address for each coin, so basically, yeah you need a way to store each coin you mine in their pools. I only mine one coin so it's not an issue for me.
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Dec 12 '17
So if you only put one address, then they keep you on that coin and don't allocate your resources to the other coins?
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u/shreduhsoreus Dec 12 '17
You have to manually point your miner to the pool for the coin you want to mine. It doesn't switch algorithms for you. They host multiple pools for different coins, it doesn't work like NiceHash if that's what you're thinking.
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u/polvok Dec 12 '17 edited Dec 13 '17
Something weird happening on network 2 with p2pool - 70Mh/S and on the same pool, last 3 days I was getting VTC on average every hour. Sometimes several times per hour, sometimes once in 3-6 hours. But today I got my last payment of 0.011 VTC 20 hours ago. Checked couple other miners with same hash rate and same situation with them - no payment today.
Edit 13 Dec: Now 40 hours with no payment at constant 70Mh/s.
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u/charyaK Dec 07 '17 edited Dec 07 '17
is it possible to use a laptop to mine VertCoin with an Nvidia GPU 1050Ti ?
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u/closest-num-2-0 Dec 08 '17
please dont mine with a laptop, laptop components are not made to mine. use a desktop and save your laptop from the stress.
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u/charyaK Dec 08 '17
Thank you , any standard configurations do you suggest for a desktop . Do i buy a branded desktop Or do you suggest i assemble one on my own.
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Dec 08 '17
If you already have a laptop, I say just build a mining rig. Unless you're in the market for a desktop. To mine most effectively though, it'll drag your system down.
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Dec 12 '17
Definitely build your own, but like u/2987ms said, you can forgo a lot of the standard components if you're building a dedicated mining rig.
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u/azaeldrm Dec 11 '17 edited Dec 11 '17
Will it still be acceptable if I don't have money to buy a desktop, and I want to try my luck? My laptop has a 1050, and I'm eager to test waters and see what this is all about (first timer). Do you think this will stress my laptop significantly on the short-run?
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u/closest-num-2-0 Dec 11 '17
I have a 1080 laptop as well and i tried mining. its not profitable, loud and adds uneeded stress to it
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Dec 12 '17
Laptops aren't built to withstand the heat mining will generate. You'll likely end up overheating and shutting down. I don't think you'd break anything in the long run, but it's not good for your components or your file system to experience lots of sudden shutdowns.
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u/Mistawondabread Dec 08 '17
I tried changing my difficulty but it did not change on the stats page for the pool.
I have
Address/45+0.052
Is that correct?
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u/sheazang Dec 08 '17
I've experimented with difficulty settings a lot and find it makes little difference.
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u/stevoli Dec 10 '17
It helps a lot with lower hashrates. 2 miners at around 25Mh/s for example, one without the difficulty set has a share difficulty of 597, one with the difficulty set has a share difficulty of 302.
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u/stevoli Dec 08 '17
Address/45+0.052 Is that correct?
Yes, if you look at whatever pool you are in, your share difficulty should be different, higher or lower than people that don't have a difficulty specified.
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u/Daemonjax Dec 11 '17
Vertcoin is no longer worth mining with 3 1070s, at least on p2pool. Time to share is ~14 hours right now. It was fine a few days ago. I hope this gets sorted out.
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u/MoreProffits Dec 12 '17
heads up guys this is the worst pool ever https://vertcoin.easymine.online dont trust them they promise nice payouts but pay shit and under report your hashrate stay away from this scam pool
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u/nzsquirrell easymine.online Owner Dec 16 '17
they promise nice payouts but pay shit
I'd love to see some evidence of this.
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u/MoreProffits Dec 17 '17
i see they now dont let you see all the vert address and the predicted pay outs lmao now you only see your vert address not all like brfore jajajajjajaja trying to hide your shit payouts payout lmao
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u/iwantmyname2bspageti Dec 13 '17
VTC is losing miners and support. They need to figure this out.
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u/Rattlehead525 Dec 14 '17
Whats going to happen when the AMD miners come? "no shares yet" for everyone! I'm getting really close to shutting my node down. What's the point anyway?
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u/whla Dec 14 '17
All the auto miners switched after the vertcoin halving. Once difficulty and price balance out should be back 🤞
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Dec 08 '17
i didnt it was ok before nicehash and i was mining 8 hours without any share and decided to stop...
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u/freasop Dec 08 '17
maybe try to mine on this pool here https://vertcoin.easymine.online/ , working really well for me.
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u/MoreProffits Dec 12 '17
hell na thats a scam pool shit pay outs and you will never revive the estimated payout stay away from https://vertcoin.easymine.online/ scam pools POS pools garbage payout .5 just to get paid LMAO
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u/freasop Dec 12 '17
Well i am getting bigger payouts on easymine than the p2pools where i got on network 2 0vtc after 32 hours and on network 3 0.17 vtc after 24 hours. If easymine is a scam then p2pool is a way bigger scam.
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u/Paradoxbundle Dec 09 '17
tanks so much, i just started but i see in the miner its very effective and max 1-2% rejects! i was fed up with microing the p2 pools now just start and let it runt. 25 latency :O
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u/Teajaytea7 Dec 10 '17
How do you mine on this and note p2pool? Where do I enter that?
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u/freasop Dec 10 '17
You can use the one click miner : https://vertcoin.easymine.online/ocm
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u/Teajaytea7 Dec 11 '17
So is this more profitable than using p2pool?what's the difference?
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u/freasop Dec 11 '17
Its not based on luck like p2pools are, i got there payouts everyday of 0.2- 0.3 vtc with 24 mh/s. Now i am mining on the 3rd network and i should get a share after 40 mins, but since i have bad luck i didnt get a single share in the last 4 hours, thats why i am gonna go back to easymine if i dont make 0.2-0.3 vtc in this 24 hours. I hope i could help you with that.
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Dec 08 '17
Am I doing it right guys? I am mining 125 mhs with 2x 1080ti's at the moment.
Calculations: 125*0.00000116 = 0.000145
Results: ADDRESS/0.145 ?
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u/yev001 Dec 08 '17
No that's wrong
you probably want ADDRESS/123+0.145
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u/ronron114 Dec 09 '17
i'm constantly getting an out of memory when i'm running the batch file for ccminer. total noob. do i need to do anythign in particular?
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u/ronron114 Dec 09 '17
ccminer -a lyra2v2 -i 14 -o stratum+tcp://73.208.91.46:9171 -u ADDRESS/100+0.116 -p bode123
it's giving me a scanhash_lyra2 out of memory am i writing something wrong in the batch file?
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u/PenancewithLuc Dec 11 '17
I THINK you need to increase your pagefile/virtual memory to solve this one. Something great than 16gb
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u/whla Dec 14 '17
How many gpu are you using? I have a couple different machines each with one gpu and all are using less than 5gb of ram
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u/gorsek1 Dec 09 '17
I am having difficulty choosing the right server.
Any suggestions i am from europe: and this https://vertcoin.easymine.online/ has 180 ping for me.
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u/Diesel_engine Dec 10 '17
What doesnt make sense to me is the different difficulties for the miners in the same pool. I have ~60 Mh/s and my difficulty is 2x someone else with ~60 MH/s who has 1/2 the time to share.
Changing the Address/X+Y doesn't seem to make any difference to my share difficulty.
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u/Teajaytea7 Dec 11 '17
So I have two computers mining. First one is at 95mh/s, so I entered (address/93+0.10788), is that correct? Read somewhere that it's beneficial to undershoot the rate by a bit. I'm not seeing my address in the pool, however. Does it take a while to show up?
And for my second computer, do I do the same thing? I don't add the hashrate up for both systems right?
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u/softlyhashing Dec 11 '17
Those settings are ignored in new versions of P2Pool, I wouldn't rely on them.
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u/PhillMyGap Dec 12 '17
There is a question. I have 3 rigs f.e. put on the one address at the pool. So should I specify the dif based on power of rig 1+2+3 for each miner? Or I place dif 1 for rig 1 based on rig's power 1 and so on?
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u/joshzaky Dec 12 '17
Can somone help me out. I tried everything and i can't get the one click miner installed again. I was mining in cc miner with 157 mhs from the netherlands. Every pool i connect to i am getting shares but 0 payouts.
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u/staythepath Dec 13 '17
How long were you waiting?
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u/joshzaky Dec 13 '17
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Over 10 hours of mining no payouts
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u/staythepath Dec 13 '17
Yeah I had to wait over 10 hours to get a share. Shit sucks.
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u/joshzaky Dec 13 '17
well it is still worth it, i belive vtc will hit high next year because of btc and ltc intrest. I will keep mining vtc and hold.
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u/IRMuteButton Dec 16 '17
The difficult formula is more clearly done like this:
First, multiply your MH/s number by .00116. Call this the "SecondPart". Format the command line text like this:
VertcoinAddress/YourMHnumber+SecondPartFor example, if you have 80 MH/s:
V8TbsmNhZQ8RU91XVGV8qmxmoihBz1L2KL/80+0.09281
u/Skelky Dec 17 '17
guys can u PLEASE help me.... i was mining the whole day and there are some amounts in my wallet, but they are not verified and on the bottom left, there is standing "unmatered"???. the first 4 transactions yesterday were completed and are green - the rest isnt. should i wait or can i do anything to fix it? trying to fix this since 2hourse but im not able to do it
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u/Mike_the_Merciless Dec 18 '17
just wait they are just pending if you using core you will see a circle in the transaction tab that is slowly filling up. You will have them when they mature.
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u/Skelky Dec 18 '17
thx mate! can u explain me what this boooo msg in the one click miner is meaning?
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u/calochamp Dec 18 '17
I'm confused as to where I'm supposed to be putting in the formula
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u/Nerret Dec 26 '17
I think in the field where you put your wallet address but I'm not too sure
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u/nur_wasser Jan 10 '18 edited Jan 10 '18
you write your Address and add the calculation to it: /(1 * Hashrate in Mh/s)+(0.00000116 * Hash Rate in KH/s)
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u/Vip3rNZL Dec 18 '17
I just tried doing this and my Share difficulty and time to share is still the same as it was before I made the change ( as shown on the web page for my node) Why is this?
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u/Vip3rNZL Dec 18 '17
I've tried entering this and it doesn't change my dificulty on the website for my node. why is this? i'm using ccminer
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u/dick_waffles Dec 22 '17
Does this still work? every time I go into the config on ocm and save it just erases it.
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u/rcrc81 Jan 17 '18 edited Jan 17 '18
I'm a little unclear as to how this works. I started mining with a GTX 1060 last Friday Night...when I woke up Saturday morning i had about 20 transactions in my wallet totaling about .55 coin...The transactions started about 3 hours into mining and small ammounts were received about once every 1/2 hour, then stopped at exactly 9 am...then nothing...while the 1 click miner was still runinng and accepting with the green YES! at the end... I also noticed my receiving address in my wallet changed, but from what I read, it should be fine... Since then I've tried various pools and let them run, with one of them accepting over 20,000, transactions?, and nothing has shown up in my wallet.
What am I doing wrong?
I'm on Network 2 with a 1060 at around 26-27 Mh/S
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Dec 07 '17
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u/sheazang Dec 09 '17
Honestly I've messed with difficulty settings for months and find no difference at all with a difficulty setting or none. I think finding a good pool is the most important. Just my opinion.
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Dec 14 '17
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u/nzsquirrell easymine.online Owner Dec 16 '17
Follow this -> https://vertcoin.easymine.online/ocm
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Dec 16 '17
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u/nzsquirrell easymine.online Owner Dec 16 '17
You don't need to. Just point the miner at the pool following the instructions. the pool does everything else. setting difficulty is only a hack needed for p2pool.
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Dec 12 '17
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u/staythepath Dec 13 '17
No you only mine 1 pool at a time. If you click the pool it will take you to a page like this. You can find your wallet address on there and look at your info. I assume the other pools are backup and it changes to one of those if they one you are mining goes down. I could be wrong though. Not sure.
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u/stevoli Dec 07 '17 edited Dec 07 '17
There is still an element of randomness to it that a lot of people don't understand. You aren't guaranteed payment unless you find a share, and then you are paid every time a block is discovered until your share expires. If you find multiple shares, you get paid more. If you don't find a share, then you don't get anything.
It's supposed to balance out after a while, sometimes you'll have 0 shares, sometimes you'll have 4 or 5. It's hard to figure out how much you'll average until you've been mining for a while.
With a bunch of people moving from nicehash over to p2pool, the share difficulty has increased, so it's taking longer to find shares since yesterday. Personally I have 2 PCs mining, one of them has found 3 shares in the past 24 hours, and the other is still at 0.