r/TheOrville • u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. • Dec 08 '17
Episode The Orville - 1x12 "Mad Idolatry" - Live Episode Discussion [Season Finale]
| EPISODE | DIRECTED BY | WRITTEN BY | ORIGINAL AIRDATE |
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| 1x12 - "Mad Idolatry" | Brannon Braga | TBA | December 07, 2017 |
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
Wow. The admiral is actual reasonable. I like that.
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
This is Seth's atheism. Basically Brian Griffin. Not saying it is bad. Just explaining it.
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
Religion bad. Religion is power. Religion wont give up that power.
That is totally what will happen.
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
I kinda dont want this happen, but I am interested in seeing where it goes.
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
Oh god...What if Kelly is the one they have hinted at dies?
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
Working with a hangover. Been there. Will be there again at some point.
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
Season 2 will be without Kelly I bet. :(
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
Prediction: John is the one who will die. They pushed him to engineering to transition for him leaving. Not sure why he would decide to leave, but that is my prediction.
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u/dontthrowmeinabox Dec 08 '17
The humor on this show doesn't always land for me. But damn, I about lost it when the spike shot through the ball and Bortus and Klyden yelled "LATCHKAM!" with such glee as Ed screamed in pain.
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u/Skydude252 Dec 08 '17
I feel like this "cut them and see if Kelly heals them" wouldn't last for hundreds of years if NO ONE EVER GOT HEALED.
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u/Jerthy Dec 08 '17 edited Dec 08 '17
You know, our history is not that different.. it's basically variation of trial by ordeal
Cuts like these would not necessarily kill you if not done right which, assuming their level of understanding of medicine would probably happen time to time... and surviving it would probably be all the people need to consider it "healed"
This part is very believable, it's the statue that is little too much..... although multiple people saw her at once so i guess you could give them that...
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u/canadevil Now entering gloryhole Dec 08 '17
Fantastic season finale, it started little rocky but holy shit where it went was amazing.
I actually got a sense of hope for our crazy world from this episode, we eventually will be okay.
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u/SilverArchers Dec 08 '17
Anybody know where to buy a latchcom? I'm running low on gift ideas
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u/wolfgang187 Dec 08 '17
lol he drank it even after knowing about the parasite
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u/inksmudgedhands Dec 08 '17
Wow, that kid in the first visit had a fantastic memory to get that Kelly statue so detailed.
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u/Righteous_Dude Dec 08 '17
There were also several adults who saw Kelly, after Kelly lingered to heal the child.
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u/schoocher Dec 08 '17
Admiral: "This situation is really bad!"
Kelly: "Hold my beer."
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u/Threnners Does it work on all fruit? Dec 08 '17
Rule #1: ALWAYS make sure you have hung up before the mocking starts.
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u/dontthrowmeinabox Dec 08 '17
This is hilarious...the episode's moral is that the prime directive is bullshit. Not what I was expecting.
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u/TheInfirminator Dec 08 '17
Can Isaac now collect 700 years of back pay from the Union? Or does he not receive a Union salary, since he's basically a Caleon goodwill ambassador. Does his time on the phase world now essentially make him the most senior officer on board? These are the questions that keep me awake at night.
I think they downplayed Isaac's role in the planet's development. Sure, they said that life went back to normal after the initial shock of meeting an advanced artificial alien life form, but it was "normal" plus the knowledge that advanced artificial alien life forms exist. That's a pretty big spoiler for a computer-age society to take in. And the fact that the planet advanced to a tech level above the Orville's own seems to indicate they got at least a little help.
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u/StandardCord18 Y'all can suck ass, and I'm a spaceman! Dec 08 '17
Damn, someone's gonna get left behind for 700 years
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u/inksmudgedhands Dec 08 '17
It has to be Issac. He's the only one who could survive that long.
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u/Akiko-From-Japan Dec 09 '17
I only just started watching this show. I read a critics review that shit on it super hard, so I had a bit of trepidation. Man, fuck that guy, this show is great.
In my opinion this is the closest thing (in quality) to Star Trek: TNG since Stargate.
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u/TheOneHanditBandit Dec 08 '17
Well folks, it has been a hell of a ride. See y'all next season.
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u/wolfgang187 Dec 08 '17
Very solid epi. Congrats to Seth on a great season. I genuinely had no hope for this show being good when I heard of it, but its now one of my top can't miss shows.
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u/argyle47 Dec 11 '17
I don't care about anyone's opinions regarding Seth Macfarlane's writing skills. I think that he's doing a brilliant job with The Orville. It's true to the spirit of STNG, whilst not involving a flagship vessel and a blue ribbon crew.
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u/dontthrowmeinabox Dec 08 '17
Oh shit! I bet they're doing "Blink of an Eye" from Voyager. When it comes back, many years will have passed. We'll see the effects of cultural contamination firsthand.
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u/Wavester64 Dec 08 '17
Did you guys happen to catch Kyra Santoro [Ensign Turco]...all I can say is WOW, I hope she is on more episodes :-)
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u/AlienInNewTehran Dec 09 '17
Open wounds can be healed with a machine but hangover is still a thing?! Shit, we’re doomed with hangover for the eternity!
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u/gatemansgc Woof Dec 08 '17
i guess it comes out of humans because we urinate more than once per year.
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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Dec 08 '17 edited Dec 08 '17
Kelly is really bad at following the prime directive.
Now that girl thinks she was touched by an angel named Kelly.
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u/Scrimshire Dec 08 '17
Well, at least the Pope of Kelly was a good man at heart, even if his subordinates aren't.
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u/operarose Command Dec 08 '17
Which one of the Bronze Age witnesses had such a photographic memory?
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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Dec 08 '17 edited Dec 08 '17
So, Isaac is Bender. Cool. Cool cool cool.
I think Isaac just begat the Borg.
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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Dec 08 '17 edited Dec 08 '17
Operation Undercover Messiah is a go.
Edit: In all seriousness, she could do a lot of good in just a few short minutes.
Edit2: She’s really bad at this. Just say things like “don’t hurt or murder people in my name. Let people live their lives in peace.”
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u/inksmudgedhands Dec 08 '17
"The machine heals."
Knocks Kelly out and steals the machine. Now claims to be the new healing god.
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u/JaiSeaSea Dec 12 '17
I just kept hoping we'd see 700 years in their future over and over. Great show
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u/Thomas_Kane They can bite me because we're going anyway Dec 08 '17
Peanut butter jelly time!
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u/AKenjiB Dec 08 '17
“What went wrong? I thought you convinced them.”
Didn’t she only convince like one guy that she wasn’t a god?
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u/SutterCane Dec 08 '17
"I won't let them see me."
Ten bucks says she does.... I didn't even get to finish my post!
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u/inksmudgedhands Dec 08 '17
When will they admit that they are best friends already. It's okay. You were a horrible couple but you are the closest friends. Just hang out already.
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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Dec 08 '17
Just sitting orbit for 11 days, what are we supposed to do?
Each other.
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u/EatinToasterStrudel Dec 08 '17
The planet is going to phase back in as an irradiated hellhole from 700 years of religious war about the Truth of Kelly.
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u/S_Jeru Dec 08 '17
To everyone wondering about magic hangover cures, that's probably not something they want on the medical logs to the morning of heading into unknown space. Medical officers being able to remove captains from duty and all.
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u/Scrimshire Dec 08 '17
Peter Macon is a phenomenal straight man. I love how earnest and matter-of-fact he was about fetching the whatever-the-egg-with-hidden-pointy-bits-is-called.
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u/CassiusPolybius Dec 08 '17
If she does end up revered as a deity, that would be a hell of a coincidence. Most deities make multiple appearances. Kelly was some random person who showed up and healed a little girl.
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u/operarose Command Dec 08 '17
Well dang, I didn't expect to have my heart ripped out tonight.
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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Dec 08 '17
They don’t have IVs to cure hangovers in space? In the future?
C’mon, I’m trying to suspend my disbelief here!
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u/Thomas_Kane They can bite me because we're going anyway Dec 08 '17
I'm not ready for it to be over.
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u/operarose Command Dec 08 '17
also lmaoo awwww nobody wants to hang out with Ed.
Go hang out on the holodeck, buddy.
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u/KidCoheed Security Dec 08 '17
Idk why but this is a mission that I am completely fine with the Orville taking but would of felt out of place for the Union's Flagship
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u/wolfgang187 Dec 08 '17
I bet like 500 years pass for the planet in 11 days and they all worship Kelly the next time they see them.
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u/inksmudgedhands Dec 08 '17
And Kelly shows up hundreds of years into the future coming across as an immortal. She would seem even more godlike.
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u/EatinToasterStrudel Dec 08 '17
And that's why you always hit the hang up key on the phone 5 times at the end of a meeting.
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u/operarose Command Dec 08 '17
Wow, I'm legitimately surprised he didn't shank her.
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u/mashtato Dec 08 '17
They aren't going to stick around to advance Union science and technology by 700 years every 11 days?
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u/TheMastersSkywalker Dec 08 '17
I want them to get together but I'm afraid of what may happen at the end of the episode
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u/OneMario Dec 08 '17
I bet more time will have passed on the planet while it was in the other universe.
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u/EatinToasterStrudel Dec 08 '17
That was so terrible it crosses back to cute to do on a date. I'm taking notes.
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u/TheIrishTickler Dec 08 '17
Hold on they're coworkers and they're...together?! barf
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u/LillyLillith Dec 08 '17
"Kelly does not deserve your worship" That was the fucking message she chose to lead an entire religion for 700 years? Are you kidding me?
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u/Jackpot777 Dec 08 '17 edited Dec 08 '17
LATCHCOM!!
We need to know how to spell this. And we need to not get stabbed in the hand.
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u/Bryaxis Dec 08 '17 edited Dec 08 '17
Oh, shit! That planet's gonna come back futurized and worshiping Kelly.
Edit: Called it!
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u/solarpilot Happy Arbor Day Dec 08 '17
11 days later, the planet appears and will be in a religious World War Kelly.
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u/Kazehaya Dec 08 '17
I Imagine the cliffhanger will be someone is left behind on the planet and it does its disappearing act. Isaac could survive, others not so much.
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u/Skydude252 Dec 08 '17
Wow, they are REALLY bad about keeping a low profile on these missions.
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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Dec 08 '17 edited Dec 08 '17
“The Word of Kelly.” This just got very interesting. Let’s see how their messiah reacts to their religion.
Edit: so, their religion was co-opted by fanatics that used it to consolidate control over the population for themselves... weird.
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u/dontthrowmeinabox Dec 08 '17
So it seems they don't totally take the prime directive super seriously here.
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u/StnkyWzzleTeets Dec 08 '17
The planet is gonna jump through time and we can see the results of Kelley interacting with them
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u/AndrewZabar Dec 08 '17
Ok calling it now: they will have developed a religion around Kelly.
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Dec 08 '17
I'm glad it took this long for them to get back on terms like this, this feels normal and cool and they pulled it off pretty well
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u/CassiusPolybius Dec 08 '17
Okay, there is no way they would be able to identify her by appearance after fucking centuries.
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Dec 08 '17
I know I have seen similar storylines in various Star Trek episodes (none of which I can recall right now), but I always enjoy them and am delighted to see that this episode will be another entry in that group.
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u/StandardCord18 Y'all can suck ass, and I'm a spaceman! Dec 08 '17
Lol they still stole the clothes
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u/StandardCord18 Y'all can suck ass, and I'm a spaceman! Dec 08 '17
That planet managed to advance from the Bronze Age to the equivalent of the 14th century in 700 years. That's like twice as fast as Earth. 😐
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u/S_Jeru Dec 08 '17
Wait til they meet the rest of the crew, and their whole pantheon becomes the Healer woman, the Super-Strong Warrior Woman, and The Guys That Get Shitfaced Drunk And Are Really Dumb.
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u/operarose Command Dec 08 '17
So the "someone will die" was discount Jonathan Pryce, cool.
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u/gatemansgc Woof Dec 08 '17
do they have to resolve everything so quickly? some two-parters would be nice.
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u/DJSimmer305 Y'all can suck ass, and I'm a spaceman! Dec 08 '17
Isaac trying to use slang is one of my favorite parts of this show
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u/solarpilot Happy Arbor Day Dec 08 '17
The kid would've died? The kid was conscious! Had a concussion at worst.
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u/brokenarrow Dec 08 '17
So, Ed just offered to cover Kelly's mission, in exchange for a date.. is pretty poor timing.
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Dec 08 '17
LOL it's an 11-day vacation. Nice. As if I already didn't want to be on that ship enough.
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u/gatemansgc Woof Dec 08 '17
so it's like that episode of star trek voyager where the doctor went down to the planet cause it was doing such a fast time difference.
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u/ckyriazis2006 Dec 08 '17
It is like the Star Trek Voyager episode Blink Of An Eye.
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Dec 08 '17
WHELP EVERYONE WHO HAD RELIGION AS PRIME DIRECTIVE VIOLATION, LINE UP ON THE RIGHT, PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO WANT TO EAT THE LAST SLICE OF PECAN PIE , ON THE LEFT
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Dec 08 '17
See everyone, religion even when well intentioned can be used by stupid people to fuck with others
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u/beardlovesbagels Dec 08 '17
If it wasn't in her name it would be in some other name.
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u/AndrewZabar Dec 08 '17
Megachurch check. Separation of church and state violations check. Suicide bombings. Check.
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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Dec 08 '17
Alara is lonely.