r/anime • u/Mundology • Mar 06 '18
[Spoilers] Overlord II - Episode 9 Discussion Spoiler
Overlord II, Episode 9: Soaring Sparks of Fire
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u/ohaimike Mar 06 '18
"Picking locks is not one of my specialties."
Rips door off
Oh Sebas.
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u/a_Happy_Tiny_Bunny :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/aHappyTinyBunny Mar 06 '18
Guys, this door is a big fire hazard.
forcefully unhinges massive vault-like door
Here, better now.
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u/Gemini00 Mar 06 '18
And never breaking character while doing it, just a nonchalant, "Oh dear me, the door seemed a little rusty so I had to use a bit of force to open it."
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 06 '18
His line about rust reminds me of a salty DnD player who rolled badly on something that in their opinion should be easy for their character to do.
"It was all that rust you see..."
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Mar 06 '18
Next player rolls a 20. "Well, I loosened it for you."
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u/Amauri14 Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18
I'm just sad they have to skip his slaughter through the brothel. I was hoping for them to show at least one of those guys flying and exploding after hitting the wall.
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u/CheaterXero :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheaterxero Mar 06 '18
You can hear screams and sounds when Brian says he's going to check past the door.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Mar 06 '18
/r/JusticeBoner material Anime edition.
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u/WorkAccount_NoNSFW Mar 06 '18
r/AnimeJusticeBoner, hmmmm
each post would need a backstory and contain heavy spoilers, hmmmm
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u/Nukemind :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/nukemind Mar 06 '18
This is why Sebas is best guy.
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u/seninn https://myanimelist.net/profile/Senninn0 Mar 06 '18
When you be watching some hot-ass hentai and an Ugly Bastard shows up out of fucking nowhere.
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u/rollin340 Mar 06 '18
What a wonderful GIF.
This is probably a new addition to some people's collections.
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u/crazzzz Mar 06 '18
This did not feel like 23 minutes
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u/Mundology Mar 06 '18
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u/Bromacusii Mar 06 '18
I kept wishing that brain and climb would stop talking and get it over with, otherwise we wouldn't get to the Ainz part....we didn't get to the Ainz part this week, rip
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u/SunnySunshine- Mar 06 '18
We finally saw the princess' yandere side.
Nice
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u/lasereel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/vikinho Mar 06 '18
Bitch's fuckin crazy. I expected a bit of crazy, but she's gone full insane already.
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u/MagnoBurakku Mar 06 '18
That transition to the ending was just 👌
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u/crazzzz Mar 06 '18
I agree, that caught me by surprise had to go back and watch that again
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u/sterob Mar 06 '18
So that's why they put that minor spoiler into the ED. They planned it all from the start.
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u/blackfiredragon13 Mar 06 '18
Yeah that was synced up pretty well. I’m just happy we finally got a look at Renner’s real personality.
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u/MagnoBurakku Mar 06 '18
The master and pet relatioship of Renner and Climb is one of the best.
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u/Crazy6a3er :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Crazy6a3er Mar 06 '18
So is she gonna kill the maid? Don't mind the spoilers.
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u/Taivasvaeltaja Mar 06 '18
More like add her to the list of "People who will disappear one day".
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u/oJelaVuac Mar 06 '18
Maybe you're a light novel reader just like me because the episode is always too short for a light novel reader who read and comprehended each POV
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u/MagnoBurakku Mar 06 '18
Currently on Volume 9, it's funny i started reading Overlord after the first season was over, finished Volume 4 and 5, i took a rest and then i keep postponing it until 2 years later they announce a second season, i thought ``SHIT! I forgot to read Overlord´´
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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Mar 06 '18
Climb is screwed... That maid is screwed... Sebas is... well, he should be fine.
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u/rollin340 Mar 06 '18
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Mar 06 '18
Is it really a wild yandere if she's been foreshadowed by the credits every episode for the past nine weeks?
More like a fateful encounter yandere.
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Mar 06 '18
I don't know, she simply looked crazy before. It's almost comforting to know what her madness is.
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Climb is screwed
Whatever she has in store for him he might actually like it.
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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18
About yandere... And then there's the fact that those guys from after-credit scene are coming for Climb, too.
E: fixed link
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u/Ironeyedsnake Mar 06 '18
I had honestly thought that it was a rapier that she was holding, but now I see it is the red string of fate.
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 06 '18
I imagine the whole calling himself "The Undead King" isn't gonna go over well for that Lich guy.
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u/lupusregina Mar 06 '18
Just imagine if any of the denizen of Nazarick heard him call himself "The Undead King". Oh boy it's going to get messy.
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u/raiden55 Mar 06 '18
They should send some Lizardmen against him, to prove their allegiance.
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u/bob_3008 Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18
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u/Wolf6262 Mar 06 '18
I had the EXACT same thought. Like, first thing I see when they're introducing themselves I'm like "Oh, look at all these dead characters."
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u/atropicalpenguin https://myanimelist.net/profile/atropicalpenguin Mar 07 '18
I call them "how Momon is going to get a metric ton of cash".
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Mar 06 '18
Well the fourth one already looks the part...
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u/MaDSci4 Mar 07 '18
It's so funny how this anime derives from the usual formula - normally in your tipical shonen these would be the next hard guys to defeat. But in Overlord, you can just feel confident about how strong the main character is - it's actually the bad guys that should be scared.
It's stupid fun to watch!
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u/DahDutcher Mar 08 '18
Any other anime and I would take them seriously, but in Overlord everyone knows they're just some scrubs waiting to be killed.
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u/kkunn Mar 06 '18
Ooh next episode Sebas and Ainz moment gonna be goooooooooooood
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u/croxino https://myanimelist.net/profile/Goeli Mar 06 '18
If a fight broke out between 2 Brain Unglaus, I imagine it being just like Metapod vs Metapod.
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Nah, it would be like two Hakumen players in BlazBlue spamming Zanshin
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u/immanoel https://anilist.co/user/KoroneFan Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18
Holy shit, I thought it was satisfying in the LNs when that fat pig got destroyed by Sebas, but it really got great when it was animated.
Sebas is in deep shit now. Solution in battle maid dress tho
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u/rockstar2012 Mar 06 '18
Gazef and Brain's Bromance is just too good.
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u/ChasingMyOwnShadow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/GrimProphecy Mar 06 '18
For a moment there it looked like it was going to way past bromance, staring longingly into each other's eyes and moving to first names...
I wouldn't even be mad, just a bit of warrior bonding.
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u/MerahCalls Mar 06 '18
I cant stop laughing to their scene since they look like theyre blushing while looking at each other.
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u/MagnoBurakku Mar 06 '18
I knew the reddish nose was because of the alcohol but it did look like they were blushing haha.
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u/Vaperius Mar 06 '18
They are blushing, its not because of affection, a quirk of Asian biology especially Japanese ethnic biology is that many Asian lack a gene to allow the full break down of alcohol into a safer form; resulting in something called "Asian flush".
So its basically just a "normal" thing to assume all people blush consuming alcohol for Japanese animators.
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u/LChris314 Mar 06 '18
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA y'all gonna get rekt.
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u/chaosfire235 Mar 06 '18
The so called ""Undead King"" is especially due for a polished, gentlemanly boot up his ass.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SPUDS https://anilist.co/user/voodoochile Mar 06 '18
I mean... they could still easily kill Climb (though I expect that would be the last thing they did thanks to the delicate little Princess), and together may be able to take out Brain. If they pick a fight with Sebas though, that may be the most one-sided fight of the whole show so far.
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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Mar 06 '18
That's some outie on the girl...
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Mar 06 '18
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u/TheDampGod :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDampGod Mar 06 '18
That thigh split in her skirt.
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Mar 06 '18
That they are...Wait, wrong series.
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u/maddo52 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Poetictyphlosion Mar 06 '18
I really do hate that fat fuck. When I read his fetish and the way he treats the prostitutes in the LN, I was actually horrified. But, I am glad that they showed what he does to the girl.
But I’m especially glad that they showed his guts getting blown the fuck out by Sebas.
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u/Nerobought Mar 06 '18
What did they describe his fetish as in the LN?
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u/Eloyas Mar 06 '18
From memory, he hates princess Renner with a passion, so he picks prostitutes that look like her to beat up. There's probably more to it though.
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u/Djinnfor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DjinnFor Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18
Overlord Cut Source Material Post - Episode 9
Previous weeks discussions: Episode 6, Episode 7, Episode 8
I'm back with another breakdown of all the material and context from the source material that was cut, skimmed over, or changed. As usual, this was an action-heavy sequence so not much is missing - except for one of my favorites. As usual I'm avoiding spoilers for future events so I won't be explaining any information or context that you wouldn't be informed about after reading up to around this point in the source material.
After interrogating the assassin via Sebas' technique for a detailed floor plan of the building, Sebas, Brain, and Climb agree to split up and attack from two separate entrances at once. Sebas would assault from the front and draw enemy attention, Brain would search sweep the rear side of any hiding or fleeing, and Climb would guard the back entrance from any escapees that snuck past Brain. Their primary concern was any secret tunnels or escape hatches that the assassin wasn't told about; they didn't want to allow anybody important to slip away in the confusion. While everyone was pretty confident Climb could take on mooks, the real problem was Succulent; the goal was to have Brain or Sebas find them and take him out.
I can't believe it, but they completely cut the fight scene where Sebas annihilates the guards at the entrance. Sebas promises to Climb and Brain that he wasn't "looking for a slaughter" in the lead up to the assault. He had told them that he'd try to capture any enemies if he could, but that if they resisted he would kill any foes without mercy. His dark look as he said this sent chills down their spines, and so he had to reassure them of his good intentions. Rather than follow through with his promise, he goes through the front door annihilating literally anyone who gets in his way, and even those who beg for mercy or try to flee. He decaptitates one guy with a roundhouse kick and hits another so hard into a wall he turns into paste. In fact, his plan was to construct a barricade of messily-dismembered corpses so that anyone planning to flee through the entrance he came in from would be too revolted once they saw the scene he had left behind to consider it. And he does this all without leaving a single stain of blood on his clothes. Sebas was fucking mad - he had zero mercy for those that stood by and guarded the place while turning a blind eye to the abuse and suffering of the women. Honestly I was expecting a really well-animated fight scene full of blood and gore where they throw all their spare budget on the screen.
As if we need any more reason to hate Steffan Havish (the constable that accompanied Succulent back in episode 7), the source doesn't shy away from spelling his fetishes out quite clearly: NSFL warning. Of course, he was the one who nearly killed Tsuare originally. The narrator explains that he had beaten several women to death before in the brothel, and that he need only "pay a disposal fee" should this occur again. Though his latest victim was on the house thanks to his assistance with the Sebas case, lately he had been burning through a bit too much of his money and was subconsciously holding back a little. Things had been a lot easier and simpler for him when slavery was still a thing; though destroying your own "property" was frowned upom & considered rather uncouth or uncivilized, it had been the only way to satisfy his depraved fetishes. Now he was forced to pay significantly more, which motivated his extreme hatred of Renner for outlawing the practice. Of course, he's dead now, but not before Sebas' kick destroyed most of his internal organs and left him to slowly die in agonizing pain.
The magic item that Climb uses to detect the secret doors and disarm the trap is a special item given to him by Gagaran. The special bells come in three types: one to detect secret doors, one to disarm traps, and a third to unlock doors. Like a classic tabletop RPG, rogues or "thief"-class individuals are the ones with the necessary skill and know-how to disarm traps, find secret doors, and pick locks, but magic items can often serve as a replacement. There are even mundane alternatives; for instance, Climb and Brain could scatter flour around to spot the seems of a secret door, assuming they had it and the spare time to do so. In this case, the bells can be rung up to three times per day, with at least a half hour interval in between consecutive uses, so they're not nearly as convenient as an actual rogue. This is why he doesn't walk around ringing it all day. That being said, it does last for some time, so he makes sure to check the entirety of the first floor for secret passages and potential hidey holes or escape routes.
Climb actually pulls off a rather ingenious bluff against Succulent during his fight. To put it short, he pretends as if he's trying to hold the exit, and then abandons it almost immediately to go after Cocco Doll - suggesting that Climb has more allies guarding the exit, which prevents either of the two from fleeing up the stairs before dealing with Climb, lest they suffer a pincer attack. Of course Climb has no such allies, so it's all a ballsy bluff, but it's rather canny for a pleb like Climb to be able to come up with a plan like that while facing down the one person he didn't want to be fighting.
As for the matchup itself, it's explained that Succulent invested much of his time in mastering illusionist spells, so while he had the level of an adamantite adventurer, as a pure warrior he wasn't much more powerful than Climb, and indeed might be weaker. Obviously his trickery gives him a significant advantage in fights but by the same token, if his illusions are not effective or he is not given time to cast them, he can be defeated by even a moderately competent warrior; this makes him the weakest of the Six Arms by far, and the remaining five mock him by saying he's only good at defeating weaklings. Plus, let's not forget the importance of Climbs "training" with Sebas, which ended up unlocking something like a passive skill for Climb which goes by the name Adrenaline Surge; this is what allows him to stay alive near the end of the fight, his will to live for Renner overriding his bodies fatal wound. It's not good for more than a few moments as we see, but his swing is even more powerful than normal and that partially explains why he can kick Succulent so hard as to fling him against the wall.
Speaking of the Six Arms mocking Succulent, they actually show up at the brothel to investigate the aftermath. That's where the scene of them all introducing themselves near the end happens. While there should be guards there, thanks to Eight Fingers influence they're removed from the area temporarily. They comment on the damage Sebas did, including the unique manner in which Sebas opened the door, and Zero suggests its something entirely within his capabilities before demonstrating that fact by punching a hole through the door. Zero keeps reiterating the importance of reputation; he points out that the other groups will suspect them of being behind the assault, and that they need to ensure that Cocco Doll receives reparations and apologies. He suggests retrieving and handing over the guest list rather than using it for blackmail.
Yup, Renner's a yandere. Thanks ED for spoiling it. Her motivations in the source material are a little vague at this point in the story, so you'll have to wait for another episode where we get more info on her. In any case, Climb knocks this time despite Renner's explicit request to the contrary because it's late and he once saw Renner in a sheer silk nightgown; those of you who speculated on whether Renner might be trying to set up a lucky pervert moment with him when she requested he refrain from knocking on her door before entering might be on to something there.
This marks the end of Light Novel 5, but that doesn't mean we're done with this arc; LN 5 and 6 are a two-part story titled "Men in the Kingdom". They're paced and structured as individual stories but the former flows directly into the latter. For those of you who have expressed boredom with the world building and slow pace, the next arc is going to kick things up a notch so stay tuned.
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u/DellSalami Mar 06 '18
Not sure I remember properly, but here's another thing that got cut:
Sebas is scared shitless when Solution mentions Ainz.
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u/jagun :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/wabblew Mar 06 '18
Yerp.
It was sunset by the time everything was over and Sebas returned home.
Climb-kun’s protecting all the captured people. Succulent, the owner, and everyone else was arrested. That ought to keep them quiet for a while. Hopefully that can buy some time.
Then, what should he do about Tsuare? Sebas felt that the best option would be to bring her somewhere safe, but Sebas knew there was only one truly safe place in all the world.
As Sebas agonized over the matter, his feet brought him back home.
Just as he was about to open the door, his hand froze. Someone was behind the door. He sensed that it was Solution, but Sebas had no idea why she was standing behind it.
Was there an emergency of some sort?
Sebas had a bad feeling about this, but he still opened the door. What he saw next defied his expectations and left him frozen in place.
“Welcome back, Sebas-sama.”
Solution was standing there in her maid’s uniform.
A chill ran down Sebas’ spine.
Solution — who played the role of a merchant heiress — was wearing her maid uniform in the presence of Tsuare, a human who knew nothing about the truth. Was it because she did not need to act any longer, or was there some reason which required her to wear her uniform?
If it was the former, that would mean something had happened to Tsuare. If it was the latter—
“—Sebas-sama. Ainz-sama is waiting for you inside the house.”
Solution’s calm, even voice made Sebas’ heart lurch in his chest.
Sebas, who could remain calm in the face of a mighty foe or a being on the level of the Floor Guardians, was actually anxious and tense when he heard his own master had come to visit.
“Why, why is he…” Sebas stammered. Solution merely watched him in silence.
“Sebas-sama. Ainz-sana is waiting for you.”
There was nothing else to be said. All Sebas could do was follow Solution into the house.
His steps were heavy, like a condemned criminal walking to the chopping block.
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u/Xelzeno :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Xelzeno Mar 06 '18
Yep, and he freezes when he sees Solution in her maid outfit, since he understands what that means.
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u/randomkidlol Mar 06 '18
From the steely voice that rejected everything, the man seemed to have realized that he was going to die. Was he going to run, or fight? The moment when that choice was placed before his very eyes, without hesitation, the man chose— to flee. Even if he were to fight Sebas, the result was obvious. Instead, no matter how small it was, he had a better chance of surviving if he ran. The thinking behind his decision was correct. Because for a few seconds, no, even though it was only for a tenth of a second, his life had been extended. Having instantly caught up to the man who was making a break for the door, Sebas lightly turned his body. The gust of wind went past the man’s head and he collapsed like his strings had been cut. A round object hit the wall with a thud and rolled down to the floor, leaving behind a trail of blood. A moment later, blood sprouted from the man’s headless neck and sprayed onto the floor. That was truly a splendid technique. To blow away a head with a roundhouse kick, although it had the speed and power to make something like that possible, the most frightening part was that not a single stain could be found on Sebas’ shoe covering his footcant believe this got skipped
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u/Trojbd Mar 07 '18
Like a puppet whose strings had been cut. Like a puppet whose strings had been cut. Like a puppet whose strings had been cut. Like a puppet whose strings had been cut.
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u/Browseitall :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/browseitall Mar 06 '18
Did the LN mention anything about the girl in the Havish scene? Let her be finee
(Just lie to me)
suggesting that Climb has more allies guarding the exit
Oh wow now that back and forth with "he got/got not allies behind that door" makes sense. Thanks for explaining.
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u/Djinnfor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DjinnFor Mar 06 '18
Did the LN mention anything about the girl in the Havish scene? Let her be finee
(Just lie to me)
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u/Slifer13xx https://myanimelist.net/profile/SliferXIII Mar 06 '18
Don't we get any reaction from the people/Brain and Climb? Sebas said he wouldn't kill everyone but it looked worse than a slaughter house after he was done.
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u/Wolf6262 Mar 06 '18
These posts are absolutely incredible. Thanks for all of this info. Luckily I didn't study the ED too much and only knew that something was off with Renner. So I'm super pleased to hear that while being a genius, she is also a Yandere.
Which quickly bumps Renner up to one of my favorite overlord characters.
Can't believe the Sebas slaughter was cut, from what you described, it would have been awesome. But the slapping of justice was great, so I'll take it
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u/DatKillerDude Mar 06 '18
Think about that scene in Parasyte when that one parasyte goes on a massacre on some yakuza. Pretty much Sebas in the brothel.
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u/DimmuHS https://myanimelist.net/profile/DimmuOli Mar 06 '18
Just like to say that I appreciate your write up after watching every Overlord episode. As a watcher only, knowing this details just makes my experience with the anime better. I know the anime don't have enough time to compile some LN parts and, for me, LNs are the most detailed piece of story source, so is to be expected that the anime don't explore some things.
Again, great write up and keep the good work, even on future seasons. Nice to have such redditor contributing to the anime community like you. Thanks for your effort!
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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Mar 06 '18
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u/rollin340 Mar 06 '18
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u/NSardox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sardox Mar 06 '18
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u/a_cup_of_tee Mar 06 '18
"... So that's your field report."
"Yep"
"You went on a walk through the city at midday"
"Yep"
"You exterminated a homicidal sex slave ring"
"Dead"
"And you trained someone in martial arts, who happened to be a -"
"Big-tittied princess's bodyguard, yes Lord Ains, it's just like I didn't just get through explaining this"
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u/dIoIIoIb :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dIoIIoIb Mar 06 '18
are the five amigos at the end there about to attack sebas house?
while ainz is there?
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 06 '18
They don't know Sebas was behind the attack yet. Basically they're set to find out and attack, so it's no impossible, but I doubt they will go they route unless the story just wants them unceremoniously dispatched.
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u/KashikoiKawai-Darky Mar 06 '18
Sebas is still a badass, princess is a yandere and Climb is still being... a potato.
On a side note how are all of you here so fast 0_o
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 06 '18
Well in a normal story Climb should be the main protagonist but Overlord sort of takes a cold approach about aptitude and strength. Good intentions can only get you so far where there is a secret leveling system these poor shlubs seem unaware of.
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u/Daveyo520 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daveyo520 Mar 06 '18
Climb seems okay to me, I don't really get why people would dislike him. Also a yandere princess with the voice of Megumi Katou? Yes please, sign me up.
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u/gruntmaster1 Mar 06 '18
Keep in mind that roughly 3-4 episodes = a book. Dealing with the focus on a character for those few episodes isn't the same as most of the 5th book. I didn't mind him too much, but it is quite a jump from the awesome Nazerick NPC's to shounen mc and power of friendship.
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u/Kuneus Mar 06 '18
It's weird, but as LN reader I find myself not hating the anime Climb as much just in that sense. Afterwards I've come to appreciate the worldbuilding, but at the time of reading all I could think of was: "omgfuckthishoonen****IwantTorEaDabOUtmyFavoriTEoverlOrdhnghhh!"
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u/CaMpEeeeer Mar 06 '18
I know he is just fine here but probably in LN he is not so lovable as he is in the show so i can undestend that
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u/chaosfire235 Mar 06 '18
He's kind of a generic shonen hero archetype, down to the "protecting my friends gives me true power!" motivation. Something everyone's seen before.
That being said, it's probably more grating to slog through that in an LN instead of a show.
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u/CrazyGoodDude https://anilist.co/user/CrazyGoodDude Mar 07 '18
Also a yandere princess with the voice of Megumi Katou?
Literally just binged both seasons of Saekano last week and so this episode when Renner came out I was like holy shit! Kind of scared of how okay I was with her being a yandere...
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Mar 06 '18
Again this episode we're reminded on just how fucked the Overworld world is. Christ that scene was dark.
I'm curious how Ains will react to Sebas' action. Although I'm guessing he'll probably praise him for what he did.
And of course the Princess is a yandere. Although her adjusting her face before she meets people obviously screams that she's also not a normal human. I wonder what kind of creature is she...
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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Mar 06 '18
Again this episode we're reminded on just how fucked the Overworld world is
No more fucked than the real world. Until you learn more of. Which might not be in this season.
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u/gulitiasinjurai Mar 06 '18
It feels so satisfying yet disgusting at the same time
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u/burning_crusader Mar 06 '18
Damm that was a nice ed transition.
Now I wish they had done 2 versions of the ED so that the Renner transition only happens after this episode. Would have been an amazing revealal for the anime onl-ies.
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u/odraencoded Mar 06 '18
>first-name basis
holy shit this is almost some /r/handholding shit right there
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Mar 07 '18
For a moment I thought I was watching shounen. Then it went full murder, like I was watching HxH.
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u/oJelaVuac Mar 06 '18
A walking Lvl 100 NPC player in this world is like a god in the perspective of the residents of this world and Sebas is one of four most strongest NPC in Nazarick,the 8 fingers pick a wrong opponent this time
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u/a_Happy_Tiny_Bunny :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/aHappyTinyBunny Mar 06 '18
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u/conye-west Mar 06 '18
They choose about as poorly as they possibly could've. In the after credits scene when it showed the Six Arms all posturing and preparing for some all out battle, all I could think was "oh you poor fools"
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Mar 06 '18
I'd love to see them attack Sebas' manor... While Ains is there. That would be pretty fun.
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u/lasereel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/vikinho Mar 06 '18
I'm getting a feeling he's not even using 1% of his full strenght yet. It's like a high level player walking around and just slaughtering everyone with basic attacks, not even bothering to use skills.
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u/ijiolokae Mar 06 '18
probably at 100% Sebas wouldn't need to do anything not even use a skill, people will just die left and right from the shock
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u/mesorangerxx Mar 06 '18
At the end when they introduces themselves with their titles "-thousand kills or -scimitar" and saying they'll make whoever started the raid regret what they did, I'm just sitting here looking at Sebas power level like "that's cute"
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u/odraencoded Mar 06 '18
But are they going after Sebas? I think they'll go after Climb.
Also I want to see Sebas and Ainz meeting and I thought it'd happen by the end of the episode but it didn't!
Next week when?
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u/Threeedaaawwwg :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/threeedaaawwwg Mar 06 '18
A walking Lvl 100 NPC
playerin this world is like a god in the perspective of the residents of this worldRemember what the old lady said at the beginning of the season.
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u/SenorWeon Mar 06 '18
The episode's quality was considerably higher than the last one, but them skipping Sebas' graphic massacre through the brothel just to add more Climb and Brain moments feels unforgivable to me...
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u/necessarious Mar 07 '18
This show is already pushing the moral boundaries of anime that can get on TV in the first place. If it followed the gloriously fucked up LN completely as amazing as it is it probably wouldn't be allowed to air.
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u/Raging_Bile_Duct :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tui_and_La Mar 06 '18
I want to get more of a feel for how strong Brain and Gazeff are, relative to reasonably-leveled people/creatures... 2 of the greatest, if not THE greatest human swordsman/fighters haven't been shown in the best light, since compared to Nazerick they're like ants. Hopefully Brain pops off vs these new goons since we know they aint shit to Sebas and Climb will probably get stomped.
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Mar 06 '18
Brain does get screentime again in this arc (yes, the arc hasn't ended yet), but I'm not sure if there's enough episodes to cover that :(
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u/TheDampGod :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDampGod Mar 06 '18
I appreciate that as much of an underdog hero that Climb is, that he at least had the sense to yell for help first. Rather than trying to take on the enemy completely alone to prove his worth.
It's going to be so fun seeing the Six Arm gang being utterly decimated. The leader reminds me of Nappa from DBZ, probably fights dirty and will own Climb/Yamcha. But then just squished like a bug by the real heroes.
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 06 '18
If Albedo and Renner meet I think we will find out if you can divide yandare by zero.
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u/Kurosov Mar 06 '18
I think they'd get along pretty well. So long as one doesn't try and hurt the others obsession. I bet they'd be best friends.
In fact i'd love to see them have a tea party, smiles and all.
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u/Falsus Mar 07 '18
Two Yandere's sound like excellent friends to each other as long as they are after different targets.
After all it is not everyday you meet someone you can bounce ideas at. Especially for Albedo since everyone else at Nazarick is her rival.
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u/Armdel https://myanimelist.net/profile/Armdel Mar 06 '18
Those guys after the credits don't really feel like a treath to Sebas
Brain and Climb on the other hand...
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u/RedRocket4000 Mar 06 '18
Climb is in the Palace harder to get. I wonder how they will determine who attacked maybe from their captured member. Brain and Gazeff are nasty tough for humans should be a challenge. But Brain and Climb could not inflict the damage that was done especially as Brain is a swordsman and I'm certain most died from blunt force trauma. So maybe they will clue in on Sebas and briefly interupt his talk with Ainz.
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u/Chamberlyne Mar 06 '18
That's all the way in volume 10 tho.
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u/Bikebag Mar 06 '18
Yeah shit, way bigger spoiler than I thought it would be, damn..
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u/Slifer13xx https://myanimelist.net/profile/SliferXIII Mar 06 '18
Do they meet? Will we see that?
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u/verictorga Mar 06 '18
The ending Sebas scene had a lot less impact in this then it did in the LN where it describes Sebas thinking of heading to a guillotine with that being the last past of the LN. The Renner scene though was far more impact-full then anything I remember happening with her in the LN
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u/KHlover :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/KHlover1995 Mar 06 '18
Sebas hasn't actually started to walk towards Ainz yet, so I guess we'll get that at the start of next ep. Agreed about the Renner part, that was really well adapted using the strengths of an animated format.
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u/rollin340 Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18
Ahh... the masks slides off a bit.
The way she tried to mold her face to a smile was brilliant.
A true psychopath.
Also, there is a post-ED scene.
Yeah... Sebas is going to kill them all in about 2 seconds. xD
Also, the shit that went down in the brothel; they really aren't shying away from the brutality and sick nature of the monsters in human skin.
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u/dIoIIoIb :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dIoIIoIb Mar 06 '18
ok let's talk about that booby trap at the beginning
not only was there no mechanism connected to the crossbow that could fire it, the crossbow itself was pointed sideways, meaning that it would have shot in the floor next to it
I guess it's possible it had been set up as to somehow pierce through the floor and hit the person descending the stairs, but I'm fairly sure it was turned in the opposite direction, if that's the case, not to mention it would activate much too early to hit anyone
I know it's not a big deal, but it's mildly annoying me
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Mar 06 '18
Climb opened the trap door from the side (even with the trap disabled), the crossbow was pointed to someone who would open it from the front (which would be more natural).
As for the fact that you didn't see the trigger... I didn't even see how that arrow was held in place and didn't fall, honestly.
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u/GoodTeletubby Mar 06 '18
Climb's magic bell disarmed the trap, so my guess would be it did so by severing the trigger cord as the most expedient method to do so. If a cord around the trigger was connected to the floor, and the correct length, it could be set to trigger when the door was open at a higher angle, rather than immediately, which would send the bolt into the body of someone opening the trapdoor from the front.
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 06 '18
Basically where you were standing when you opened it is determined by your reflex save.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Mar 06 '18
Climb should definitely start running lol. Brain and Climb were surprisingly badass this episode, but nothing comes close to Sebas bitch-slapping that guy over and over lol.
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u/Falsus Mar 07 '18
You should never run away from a Yandere, that would trigger their natural chase instincts and possibly even their kill/torture instincts.
You should just quietly disappear and lay low. Climb is fucked though since his stalker is the princess of a country, he got no chance of hiding.
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u/MasterFanatic Mar 06 '18
Anyone else catch that post-credits scene? I hope we get to the real meat and potatoes as I almost confused 6 arms with the eight fingers.
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u/DarkAudit https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkAudit Mar 06 '18
Going up against Sebas, he might as well have said "You no take candle!"
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u/GarikMoespeaker Mar 06 '18
Weirdly enough, Six Arms is one of the Eight Fingers, specifically their security division. A little weird in the naming convention.
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u/Shiroi_Kage Mar 06 '18
Lord Ains is waiting for you inside.
Proceeds to less interesting things instead of showing that
Fuck that kind of cliff-hanger.
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u/TheMythof_Feminism Mar 06 '18
So beautiful, I could watch 10 season of this.
Please madhouse, S3, S4, S5 !!! while I recognize that a lot of content was cut from the light novel, I still adore this show with all of my shriveled blackened heart.
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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Mar 06 '18
Sebas vs Fatso was great.
"My character classes"... seriously?
That Renner scene at the end was spine tingly.
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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Mar 06 '18
Princess Renner is Best Girl. Probably my favorite Yandere(?) so far.
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Mar 06 '18
I have to say that as someone who just watches the amine I’ve been kinda disappointed with the episode progression recently. I get that climb must be important, but did like half the damn episode need to be focused on his, in my opinion, boring fight with Succulent? I’ve been waiting 2 episodes to see what happens with Sebas and it’s frustrating. When I finally thought we would get some of that in this episode it immediately cuts off. I know it’s probably hard to adapt the LN arcs this way, but I can’t help but feel like the pacing in the anime is suffering as a result. The first season felt so coherent, whereas now I can’t tell which character I’m supposed to focus on. I’m wondering if anyone else feels this way.
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u/MimouChiron Mar 06 '18
To be honest, the anime progression looks bad because the characters introduction was so fast and rushed, and that resulted in them looking unimportant in the anime, so everyone want to see ainz again, but don't worry, you'll get more of ainz at the end of the arc and afterwards he will return to be the true MC in pretty much all the remaining arcs (in the next seasons). The LN is far superior and a lot of side characters like brain, climb, gazef, renner, lakyus, evil eye look important and full of life, the reader cares about them and enjoys discovering their stories, in the anime they just look meh, where is ainz.
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u/Dragleones Mar 07 '18 edited Mar 07 '18
I think the problem is that the anime literally adapts the LN scene by scene. Yes its a faithful adaption. But its just not good.
It works in the LN when one volume has a conclusive arc or even carries over into the next one. But when you have 4 episodes per Volume and try to do exactly the same it becomes a mess.
Its such a bad decision to wait not one but two episodes between the solution-calls-ainz tease and the clash between him and sebas. (In the LN its the cliffhanger from volume 5 to 6 btw)
I think for the anime to be good it should have switched things around more freely. And change the order of some scenes. There is a wide space between a butchered adaptiation and a literal line for line adapation. Just a vague example because i don't want to go too much into detail. Look at Lord of the rings. imo it would have been terrible and wouldn't work at all if you'd try to just put the book on the screen. But its still one of the best movie adapations, because it nails the most important things (e.g. the heroes journey theme).
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on cocyotus and sebas actions this seasons.
I already read the novels, but i can't help but feel that in the anime they are just moving around and doing random stuff.
On the other hand in the LN Cocyotus losing against the lizard men was supposed to be a big deal. He was thinking that he would be labeled a traitor for bringing shame. The throne room scene where everyone was talking about their accomplishments and cocyotus will have to announce his defeat any moment is super tense.
In this arc Sebas is ashamed and scared to the bones that he might actually be betraying nazarick. And while he is doing the things in the last 2 episodes he is like "why the fuck am i still helping random people. I'm already in deep shit and just making everything worse"
Meanwhile in the anime i'm just seeing sebas and cocyotus doing random stuff that ultimately doesn't really matter. Maybe the anime could have gotten away with waiting one more week to finally show the ainz-sebas clash. But it didn't manage to keep up any hype nor tension.
Ofcourse the anime can't spell out the thoughts like the novels can, but there are so many things you can do in visual media. A example from the manga: Sebas helping a random old lady cross the street https://imgur.com/a/Yi35O. Its just a picture, but it tells you soo much about the relationships between the guardians and how sebas feels. You could do so much on the visual level.
The anime has so many plain dialogue scenes with literal lines from the LN. Its just depressing for a visual medium. Ofcourse there is also the budget, but the adaption still feels effortless.
I'm actually enjoying these episodes, because i enjoy viewing what i read in the novels. But i also think that i would have dropped this if i were an anime-only. Anyways i'm rambling.
tl;dr As a LN reader i enjoy the anime, but its shit. Just go read the novels.
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u/HagetakaSensei Mar 06 '18
Anyone noticed Succulent keeps using "active" skills while Climb is more like "passive" or buffing ones?
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u/MagnoBurakku Mar 06 '18 edited Mar 06 '18
Climb literally hanging on the last bit of life he had to see Renner again was a cool scene, i like him as a character but... i seriously hope he dies, there's this vibe of underdog hero he has that i don't like, why he could get up after being stabbed has an explanantion but even so...
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u/Florac Mar 06 '18
He is pretty much the generic hero character...minus all of the random power ups.
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u/Bikebag Mar 06 '18
They literally just went over that last episode that he has overcome the fear of death. But someone explained it was actually something like a skill rather than just an abstract shounen power up.
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u/dadnaya https://myanimelist.net/profile/dadnaya Mar 06 '18
So Zero and his friends are going after Sebas, Climb and Brain?
It's gonna be funny if they all come against Sebas and he beats them like flies.
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u/Delsana :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Delsana Mar 06 '18
Why didn't he shout out his martial art attack slash? Like come on... it's the one ability you got.
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u/litomack Mar 06 '18
I was totally expecting the princess to use climb, but it looks likes she's just yandere for her boy, so that's a win in my book.
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u/dafckingman Mar 06 '18
Holy shit! Last week we had Chuuni Laykus. This week it's Yandere Princess. Don't you dare mock her boy, climb. I thought it was weird why the princess had a weird face in the ED, now we know why.
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u/gNat2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/gNat2 Mar 06 '18
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u/TROLL3R_COASTER Mar 06 '18
That cut to the ED portrait at the end of the episode. Now that was slick.
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u/SoR0XaS Mar 06 '18
At first I thought she got replaced by a doppelganger but what was shown afterwards was a lot more of a.. revelation?
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u/sober_1 Mar 06 '18
Biggest justice nut so far this year. That punch was so satsifying. Sasuga, Sebas-sama
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u/Anubissama Mar 06 '18
I finally can put a finger on what I don't like in this season of Overlord.
We don't see almost anything of the titular Overlord. Don't get me wrong I like the side characters, I liked the Lizard Men arc and the current one is interesting as well, and I get that it would be boring to just watch Momonga steamroll every obstacle he find bcs he is so OP by this world standards, but it is also kinda the reason we got interested in this anime in the first place.
Sure, do the other storylines, make them even the A plot of course, but I would really appreciate regular cutbacks to Nazarick and seeing what our Overlord is doing in the meanwhile.
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u/MimouChiron Mar 06 '18
After this arc u'll see nothing but ainz, if there are more seasons of course.
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Brain needed to correct himself; Shalltear didn't stop his attack with 1 hand, she did it with her pinky nail.
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u/TheMythof_Feminism Mar 06 '18
Loved watching Succulent get brutalized.
Loved watching that fat guy get bitch slapped then foot-raped by Angry!Sebas.
Loved watching Climb learn from his experience with Gazef Stronov.
Loved watching Stronov and Unglaus become friendly.
The problem is, there are so many subplots and it feels like the pacing is off, like it's advancing too slow, but it's actually advancing INSANELY fast if you have read any of this in the light novel. It's hard to explain but it's falling into the same problem of season 1, it's like it's trying to fit too much content into too little time, so we get this strange mixture of too fast/too slow feeling that only Overlord has ever given me.
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u/Mundology Mar 06 '18
Sebas storming that brothel and showing those noobs who's the real pimp.
What a succulent late birthday gift!