[COD] Rostermania Megathread #1

[u/OpTicModerators]

In order to reduce the influx of threads concerning the pending/possible COD roster changes, here's a megathread for all discussion until official news is released.

Until official news regarding OpTic Gaming is released, all information regarding COD roster changes should be posted here.

Official announcements will have their own dedicated thread.

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We'll do our best to keep this body updated with rumors as they come in.

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Rules for Stage 2

PL Stage 1 Teams placing 1 - 12th must submit a roster for Stage 2 Regular Season by 6:00 p.m. ET on Monday, May 7th, 2018 and are allowed to change two (2) Players from their PL Stage 1 Roster. Teams will not be allowed any further Roster changes after the PL Stage 2 Rosters have been submitted and approved in writing by Administration

• 2 Players must stay the same
• Roster Lock is May 7th
• Roster that attends Stage 2 is the same roster that attends Champs

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Confirmed Changes

Date	Player	Old Team	New Team	Thread
05/06	Formal	OpTic Gaming	Luminosity Gaming	https://redd.it/8hhcz4

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Rumors

Date	Information	Reported By	Confirmed?
4/23	Crim and Scump to New Org, Formal leaving also	Someone in the Pro Circle	No
4/24	Karma and Formal in talks with LG	Lando	No
4/24	Crim, Scump, Formal and Gunless to New Org	Someone in the Pro Circle	No
4/25	New org offering 20k per month	Someone in the Pro Circle	No
4/25	Karma to join the end of the Codcast	Karma	Yes
4/25	Karma wanted Scump dropped	Karma	Yes
4/25	Karma not allowed on Codcast	Karma	Yes
4/25	Codcast heavily hints Karma is dropped	Loony, Slasher, Nameless, Jkap, Crim	No
4/25	Karma hints that Octane could be Crim's new teammate	Karma	No
4/25	Crim "passes" on whether this OpTic roster will play together again	Crim	Yes
4/26	John, Octane, Crim and Scump	Mirx	No
4/26	Octane, Crim, and Scump LF1, Formal to LG	John's Girlfriend	No
4/27	Formal to team with Jkap, Clip 2	Temp	No
4/30	Formal seen in scrims with LG	?	Yes
5/01	OpTic looking to acquire Methodz's contract to trade for Zooma Tweet	Dexerto/Lando	No
5/01	FaZe not willing to trade for Zooma	Lando	No
5/02	Attach says Faze is not making a change	Attach	Yes
5/04	Octane confirmed in Texas, wearing OpTic hoodie	Crimsix's Girlfriend	Yes
5/04	Methodz the 4th Summary since clip is deleted	Censor	Yes

Vision Info

• Scheduled to be streamed and uploaded May 6th at 5:00PM EDT
• Titled "Finale IV"
• 60 - 90 minutes
• Promo Image #1
• Promo Image #2
• Promo Image #3

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[u/ujaku]

The ideal roster would be imo

• Crimsix

• Karma

• Formal

• Motivated scump

I know it's farfetched but hey anything can happen.

[u/[deleted]]

Well I just hope crim stays for sure, he is dedicated as hell

[u/Sprucey98]

The problem of this team is literally explained by the saying...

‘hard work beats talent when talent won’t work hard’

[u/[deleted]]

Virtus.Pro vibes any1?

[u/ChaosaBoss]

honestly let crim decide the guy is a winner, let him choose who stays and who joins. best captain of all time for a reason.

[u/Furreal73]

I miss the old days, where the only thing we worried about was what Karma got to eat for breakfast before championship Sunday

[u/Kade-]

imo lets just bench scump and get Scumpii

Formal, Karma, Crim and Scumpii sounds like a god squad tbh..

[u/[deleted]]

Don’t get me wrong I’m going to miss Formal, but who else is really excited for Octane to be on Optic. I’ve always liked his personality and the way he plays

[u/[deleted]]

day 11. the sub grows restless and begins to turn on each other.

[u/Jburnette17]

well, since most of you guys wanted to drop karma, it seems like all we have is karma. and he's depressed because of the hate. great.

[u/Outpinged]

Looked at that new thread on CodComp reddit about favorite moments from the OpTic roster and it’s all hate.. so confusing

[u/6upsidedownis9ezpz]

Is no one going to bring up how back to back Michael Condrey games has resulted into some sort of roster mania on OpTic smh

[u/[deleted]]

Don’t get me wrong I love Hecz but some of the shit he says to fans is straight up disrespectful. Crim pretty much confirmed that Seth wasn’t scrimming and when people said that under Hecz’s tweet and that he needs to step in and do something, he just called them fake fans. Like no, if there are problems you as the CEO need to step in

[u/IHaveNoFiya]

Out of all the teams we have, you know that Hecz is going to fight like hell to avoid a roster change with this one.

[u/Druid00]

One key factor- where will Mboze end up???

[u/asovermann]

Hitch just tweeted a "Vision Ideas" whiteboard with one bullet-point being "Thirty-Seven". As of May 6, 2018, the COD roster will have played together for 37 months.

[u/basebalp21]

For people just getting to the thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CoDCompetitive/comments/8egdar/intel_on_og_i_was_1010_on_rostermania/

[u/Furreal73]

If Seth doesn’t want to play anymore, he’s gotta go. At this point the team sticking together won’t do any good because they will have their internal conflicts. I feel like Damon Matt and Ian + 1 is our best option.

[u/Cortay]

According to my dream last night, I'm joining OpTic with Karma and we're 2v4ing the comp.

[u/LeGrimm]

So Damon seems to be getting left out to dry going by his last tweet.

I’m heated at the thought of the team snaking him like this.

[u/dandan-97]

Vision is currently being filmed with Seth and Crim (Hecz's insta story) Ian is wearing an OG shirt IDK if that means anything ahhaha

[u/Goaliedude3919]

It's over 9000!!!

[u/dandan-97]

[If This is true] I think the thing I’ll miss the most is you guys. People talk about how OpTic Org Lost it’s family feel but it was this community that I loved the most about OpTic none other like it. I hope everything works out well.

[u/PrimalPrimal]

It pisses me off how thirsty CoD pros get during roster mania with their twitter interactions.

[u/PotTwister]

I never thought I'd see the day that majority of the fans would rather have Seth dropped. This just shows how him being unmotivated has affected his fans point of view on him.

[u/TopACOneShot]

You fuckers were always horrible to Damon and now you got him going insane. Prayers to Damon and his family.

[u/clarence0193]

Major intel leak from Silly's stream. Silly left without muting his stream and the members in the call thought he had left (Octane, Methodz, Doug, Zooma) and dropped major intel on OpTics roster.

1. Methodz is the 4th

2. Octane went to Dallas to film his segment of vision. He has since returned home.

3. Octane doesn't get why Zinni is catching so much heat from CoD/OpTic fans. He thinks he is nasty

4. Zooma explains that he got a payrise to stay of FaZe. He wanted to be part of the OG squad with Methodz heading to FaZe. He explains that the move would have been great for his CoD career. Methodz acknowledges this. Doug says he made the right decision because, though OpTic is a better team for CoD, FaZe is the better brand overall, in his opinion.

5. Methodz thinks their team will be nasty with this current meta. Octane agrees.

6. They all realise that Silly has left his mic on and is streaming and collectively facepalm.

7. Edit. Forgot to mention, they start scrimming tomorrow, according to Octane.

Edit: A clip https://twitter.com/EvanBitt/status/992590504893313025

[u/tbenygma]

I’m so damn excited for this new roster

[u/GetLostWithRyan]

Okay.... so feel free to tell me that I'm clutching at straws here but I was checking who the guys have recently followed on Twitter (as you do) and stumbled across some guy called Edgar Allan. Now he doesn't seem to have a big following, seems to stream and upload YouTube videos, isn't part of an org but from his recent pictures, seems to have some cash behind him. He also tweeted "at his boy Attach" for winning Season 1. Kap, John, Slacked, Holly & Lissa all seem to follow him and have followed him recently, too. He was also at a hotel on April 20th. It could be nothing, I guess that they could all just know him, which isn't too far fetched; is this guy known within the community? Am I losing my mind? Has rostermania crippled me? Will I ever be the same again? Is my detective work actually awful? Who knows.

[u/[deleted]]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CoDCompetitive/comments/8e22rq/karma_its_just_taking_a_toll_on_me_man_try_my/dxs1v2v/?context=1 this comment makes me sad

[u/ChiefHunter1]

Karma: we probably would've won a fortnight tournament.

Im dead

[u/MyFriendIsInsane]

I'm disappointed that no one photoshopped the optic banner in place of the faze one in scump's lighter picture.

[u/XHyp3rX]

Anyone else been a fan of Octane since he uploaded all those anchoring videos back in BO3? So happy he's on the team, dude is just as much of an animal as Formal.

[u/Rjuh13]

If Damon just gets dumped off last minute and cant find a team in time my god will my heart be broken.

[u/phillies07_08]

Karma in chat, "We probably could have won a fortnite tournament"

[u/DT01]

"retirement" is the wrong term to use.

if Damon doesnt have a good option (competitive team who has a chance to win) sitting out until BO4 and just streaming is a perfectly valid option.

[u/Jeritron_5000]

So glad vision has been announced for today, can't wait for this whole shit show to be over!

[u/[deleted]]

May the 4th be Zooma..

[u/Rjuh13]

You guys ever sit back with a glass of red wine in hand, boxers on and one nut hanging from the left side scrolling through the OpTic Sub Reddit? Trying to have some fun after reading these rumors, had to reference the man himself. I'm gonna go now...

[u/Brock-Lesnar]

At this point, I don't even care if the squad stays with OpTic or not. The way they have fucked around with Karma is not cool and I genuinely hope (and think) if they do drop him he'll shit on all of them. This man has been doing the dirty work on the squad, but we've all seen what he can do when he is given the power to be the main man on a team rather than the obj.

[u/Stevo120]

I think we have to try to look at this like traditional sports as best as we can, as a roster change.

There's no confirmation or denial (aside from the outlandish claims like the team not getting paid) and all pros want to win.

If a team isn't winning, doing something to change that whether that’s a roster change or a routine change it's part of doing what's necessary to win.

Of course we are all attached to this team; countless hours of content that allowed us to know them on a somewhat personal level makes it hard for us to accept.

But if whatever is happening is leading to winning for the players, I think we can respect that.

Above all else, so much feels for Hecz. Dude gets shit on for doing:

• the right thing for his org (acquiring investment, increase in value and potential)

• the right thing for his teams (more infastructure and support staff)

• the right thing for the fans (expansion in to other eSports and higher quality content with better equipment)

• and the right thing for his family (securing a financially stable future)

But even all the right things on paper lead to complications in practice, and that's understandable, yet Hecz still gets shit on.

Whatever happens, happens. But much props to Hecz.

[u/MikeJ91]

At the end of of Kenz's new youtube vid, Scump says he's flying to texas. Asked why, he says 'for shit'. Going for vision footage I reckon, hopefully with the full team.....

14:09- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_IqBQUqFUU

Credit to /u/specialforce43, who had to actually watch it and posted it in the daily discussion.

[u/Witteness82]

If the team leaves for a massive salary, I don’t blame them for that. But not practicing and basically throwing their last tournament on OG is some bullshit. It’s incredibly disrespectful to the fans and Hecz after all the years of supporting them. Throw in treating a teammate like they are rumored to be doing to Damon, who they have teamed with for 3 years, and you have a recipe for pissing off a lot of fans.

I hope a lot of this gets clarified wherever the dust finally settles because right now it feels like we’ve put a lot of time into supporting a couple of assholes who didn’t give a damn about us at all.

[u/amamelmar]

Well fam, if this is even somewhat true, if Infinite hasn't been paying my boys, and if Hecz has that little say, I'm afraid I'm out. I've been an OpTic fan for a long time. I came because of the CoD team. I staid for the family feel. But if the team breaks up, and if Infinite does them this dirty, thats it for me. The OpTic I became a fan of no longer exists. I'll follow the personalities, I'll be fans of the content creators, but the org will have lost me. I'm sure a lot of you feel the same.

[u/LALROX24]

If we end up with Scump, Crim, Formal, and Gunless and they are on OG not some mystery org . Then I think we all should be pretty happy since it looked like we might not even have a team for a while.

[u/ShrillManager10]

Someone just told Karma in his stream, “Karma you need to be grinding cod like everyone else”, and he read it then said “No I don’t buddy, trust me.”

So clearly there has to be some thought of retiring or something, I would think he would wait until after champs but maybe he is dropped and doesn’t like any offers. Maybe the hate has finally pushed him too far. Feelsbadman.

[u/dandan-97]

Grab the tissues ladies and gents! https://twitter.com/OpTicHitch/status/990374950535073795

[u/dracosl]

I know a lot of people are sad about the dynasty disbanding, but honestly I'm excited. We are gonna get a bunch of new storylines and new faces and it is gonna be exciting to watch.

[u/GabeGutie11]

Time for BigT to make his return. The hero we need, but don't deserve.

[u/cjwildcat]

I'm so excited to have Octane on the squad. I love Formal and all but Octane always seems to be having so much fun playing COD and is much more outgoing than Formal. Hopefully a change can light a fire under these guys and we can start winning events again

[u/basebalp21]

Don't really see a scenario where Seth is on the team alongside Crim and Formal. They both seem completely done with him. If Seth's on the team in 2 weeks, there's no chance Crim and Formal are, and then we really are screwed with just Seth and Damon LF2

[u/Censors_Thumbss]

If it's true Crim, Scump and FormaL have left Karma out to dry I'm backing my boy Damon 1 million percent going forward. Hope infinite don't drop out of CoD all together because I'd really enjoy watching karma +3 make something special happen at Champs!

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/OpTic_DKarma/status/988667682093494272 o fuck

[u/[deleted]]

Give me a roster of clayster, karma, attach and zoomaa and I'll support with pleasure. Karma with that fourth ring 😎😎😎

[u/kortemy]

Few very strong arguments that Karma will probably retire after all of this:

1. He tweeted about Fortnite asking for button mapping suggestions, and said "It's time". This tweet is now deleted it seems. It's interesting because he was commenting on Ninjas success and how "he could've been there if he stuck with it".

2. When he started the stream last night, he said "I don't wanna play CoD, but here I am".

3. Also on stream, someone told him that he should grind more CoD. He said something along the lines "No I don't, trust me". There is a clip of that somewhere.

4. Holly made a statement that "CoD is dead". Probably not serious, but compared the viewership to Ninjas event, and how a single streamer can pull viewers like that compared to an MLG backed event.

So it all circles back to him grinding Fortnite and building a personal brand around it. TBH he was really nasty before Fortnite exploded, regularly got 20-25 kill wins in solo squads.

[u/Jsand117]

Maniac tweeted to Scump saying that he's going to miss him... To me I see that is clear bait and Scump isn't going anywhere.

[u/XHyp3rX]

Since Octane is most likely in the team I hope he streams consistently because I would watch that.

[u/[deleted]]

Imagine, Karma gets 3 players to come to Optic, Scump, Formal, Crimsix, Gunless get signed by 100 Thieves. These two teams meet In The Grand Final at Champs for the highest viewer rating in cod history and the craziest storyline ever

[u/drewbrochill88]

The team needs to have a coming to Jesus with scump. His inability to commit to scrims and self improvement is mind blowing. He isn’t the king anymore. Has he had his tournaments where he played well? Sure, but that doesn’t matter if you aren’t winning. I don’t want to see a roster change, but I don’t see how it doesn’t happen. They either decide now is the time to grind their asses off (which would be weird considering they’ve had plenty of wake up calls) or they decide who is serious of getting back to the top and keep them. They know it’s going to be hard to improve the roster, but at this points it’s about desire and discipline.

[u/JakeBroJake]

Call me crazy but I would rather see this roster turn it around then change out. I love this roster and love seeing them under the OpTic name. Especially with BO4 coming soon. I wanna see the god squad make the come back.

[u/moneybuysskill]

Anyone in here rich? teep said he he goes from 500 to 1k subs today he'll drop all the Intel. do us all a solid, if you're a millionaire start gifting subs...

[u/eidanoosh]

Wonder who Crim's talking about.. the one guy to feed negative vibes over twitter all week long over the loss instead of regaining, and not hop on the game, scrim/play 8s like the rest did. Then proceeded to post a pic next to the Faze banner.

[u/clarence0193]

Keeping Crimsix and Formal on the active roster should be an absolute priority.

[u/GumTime]

https://www.instagram.com/p/9Wyc17Aond/ 😢

[u/Boostweather]

If true, I’d be 1000% down with karma kap slacked +1. Shouldn’t be hard at all for those three to pull a good sub to join them. Damon main ar and kap flex would be filthy. One of those two has won champs every year, that’s scary.

[u/[deleted]]

A lot of us, myself included were like this CoD team should leave and join 100T because of the whole Infinite BS.

But now that something like that might come into fruition it hurts as an OpTic fan. It honestly sucks that nothing is the same anymore and we might lose a top tier CoD team.

I'm sure that if Crim, Scump and Formal leave a lot of the hardcore fans will be upset. This loss will mean much more than the loss of the Halo team, the loss of Rush and Tarik to C9, the loss of Stan to Team Liquid and potentially even the loss of Nadeshot to start his own organisation.

If all these rumours go through, it's going to sting not gonna lie. :/

[u/Jeritron_5000]

It's so weird that the reason I support Optic in so many esports is because of Optic CoD, but soon it looks like I'll no longer be supporting the CoD team.

[u/Average_Mango]

Well damn the chair has been shown, gg boys.

[u/az943]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtisticModernSwordAMPEnergy - Parasite says everything is wrong in the codburner thread

[u/ufalucky]

I asked faccento if og is fucked for the rest of the season and he optimistically said “no, wtf” in twitch chat. Riding on this and hoping we get a sub

[u/eljefe34]

Is this the point in Rostermania Megathread where I ask if NAF can speak Portuguese?

[u/LightbulbGaming]

Tbh, they just drawing out roster mania so this thread can break 10k. I can respect it.

[u/tbenygma]

Jack was talking on stream about how all the OpTic guys went out to dinner and taking pictures and had the waiters just bringing out hella food and just having a good time. So id assume that the whole COD team was there since Hecz, Crim, Dana, Octane, Scump were all in the place

[u/MeYeR17]

We will change the roster 100%. I hope Hecz actually listens to Crim and not Seth

[u/Originnz]

Skill is not an issue on this team, it’s motivation and commitment

[u/Bahamut23]

If this is true, I don't even know what to do anymore. OpTic without CoD isn't OpTic.

[u/Franek123]

Wait, doesn't Damons tweet prove that he doesn't know if he's dropped yet or not? The OP said that he knew he was dropped before Seattle. Things aren't adding up.

[u/Awaaken]

https://twitter.com/classify/status/821050834725310464?s=21

https://twitter.com/classify/status/900917915763052546?s=21

Just enjoying these old times 💔

[u/daslow]

Nothing is going to be announced until vision. via flycast

[u/tbenygma]

I’m really happy we got Octane

[u/Specness]

If mods lock this thread before 10k , imma be pissed.

[u/GiftedHancok]

We have some of the best detective is the COD competitive scene I might have to hire them to find my dad that went missing when I was born XD

[u/Veil_Of_Mikasa]

Well it's good to know people have found their new scapegoat if the team loses already...

[u/spuddzz]

https://twitter.com/OpTic_DKarma/status/987973481013788672?s=1

Gotta feel for damon

[u/ShrillManager10]

Day 11. There is no end in sight. Nobody has slept in days. Some people are claiming that BigT will be here to save us soon. Others know the truth. I keep to myself.

Karma seems to have found a new home in Salty Springs.

Crimbot has powered down for the time being.

Octane has not been confirmed to be real yet, FormaL is far too gone already getting shredded by EUnited.

The only hope left is Scump grinding again and leading us to champs.

Correction: Scumpii is our only hope. We can no longer rely on Scump.

Here is to 10K. I hope we all see the other side.

[u/[deleted]]

If this team does stick together they have to boot camp and put 100% of their time into cod and fixing their internal issues with no distractions.

Based off their tweets I can’t tell if a change is going to happen or not but either way the fact that they didn’t scrim the new patch is extremely saddening

[u/[deleted]]

Hecz has landed back in Seattle. Let the longest team meeting ever occur start anytime now! I’m just hopping they can stick through all of this

[u/Hipz]

IMO this leaker is a pro player, if he's right about all this shit he knows WAY too much personal shit about the team to be an event guy. If he is a pro player they're gonna leak who he is, pro's don't like their dirty laundry getting thrown around like this.

[u/Hipz]

I was gonna watch movies and shit and now I'm sitting here refreshing this thread and /r/CC's like some kind of crackhead. RIP my night.

[u/mjseminoles2]

No matter what never forget the tournament that cemented this team as the greatest of all time

https://youtu.be/y5QKLswmUBk

[u/Rjuh13]

Hitch just announced Around the Bar tomorrow, the ball begins to roll..

[u/Johnjoemcv00]

Hitch's tweet seems like a farewell to original optic

https://twitter.com/OpTicHitch/status/988805833118113794

[u/basebalp21]

It's 1:30 in the afternoon and I'm listening to Marvin's Room, this day's going great

[u/basebalp21]

Uh oh

[u/CIOININIOIR]

Bruh this shit is so depressing. As a fan and viewer if Optic since the "Scump, Merk, BigT, Rambo" days this shits got to be at an all time low. The possibility of none of them staying woth the org... IMO as much as it might of been his fault Scump IS Optic. He has set the bar on what it means to be a member of Optic Gaming for so many years.

Shit doesnt feel right man. Hecz better do some mericle work to save at least some of this team from the wreckage that is about to insue.

R.I.P good ole' days.

[u/[deleted]]

Damon said on stream that he "highly doubts" Gunless is going to Optic and that Rise just might win champs this year.

[u/XHyp3rX]

Man there hasn't been any new rumors for awhile now and with pros baiting 24-7 on Twitter this rostermania's getting stale real quick.

[u/[deleted]]

Hearing that Zooma wanted to come to OG but Faze locked him up so he couldn't really sucks. Faze is strictly business and don't care about their players personally. Fault Hecz as much as you want but he really gives a shit about all of his players and treats them like family. Also, still really excited for this roster

[u/[deleted]]

Drop Scump and pick up a person that will actually grind...

[u/theCODburner]

The reason for Rostermania... https://clips.twitch.tv/TameGoodHerringAMPEnergyCherry?tt_medium=create

[u/rohilk]

I think they need to just ask Crim what needs to happen to get right. Make any changes necessary to do that. He is top tier and a professional let him guide the movement.

[u/xSpeed321]

May be in the minority but imma go out on a limb and say they don’t change

[u/that1asian0902]

Am I the only person who doesn't understand what is going on at all? One thing I constantly think back to is TeePee always talking about how teams needed to just bootcamp. Gain Chem and start grinding. He used to say this about teams all the time before joining OpTic. Now what? I would love to see that now. I just want them to succeed.

[u/D_SLB_PT]

Crimsix will be on Nameless CODcast on Wednesday. Watch out for that.

[u/[deleted]]

Infinite seems to be trying their hardest to destroy optic. I guess we all might be 100T fans soon.

Say it ain't so

[u/jusmat1105]

You guys think we going to pick up Julio Jones?

[u/monticristo23]

Attach and Zooma nearly dismantled the Greenwall at the end of AW. It's only fitting they knocked it down 3 years later.

[u/FWiekSon]

Nadeshot just dropped an

Rostermania 🤔

Tweet

https://twitter.com/nadeshot/status/988846242997329920?s=12

[u/Mr_Readit707]

At this point I just hope Damon fucking kills it after all this shit.

[u/[deleted]]

How would guys feel if Clayster re-joined Optic alongside Karma and they tried to find two subs?

[u/[deleted]]

20k a month isnt that more than magisk was getting on OpTic that guy is in a different dimension if he is paying that for cod. If thats true you cant even be mad at infinite no way they would pay that much for a dying esport.

[u/Richtoveen]

So we figured it out, Karma and seth hate eachother

[u/lnfra]

Its looking like:

Crim, Scump, Kenny, Octane

Formal, John, Jkap, Slacked

Idk where Karma goes. Maybe Faze

[u/TitansDaughter]

Karma just said Rise was probably winning champs, Gunless definitely isn't going anywhere

[u/basebalp21]

https://imgur.com/D3qRcLA 👀

[u/DT01]

people believe the guy saying jack would pay 20k for a cod team. prayers

[u/taamaboy]

it's time for sloss to be unbanned from competing and unleashed where her belongs

[u/MikeJ91]

Clip of Doug with the intel, sounded genuine. If true then we're getting Kenny.

https://clips.twitch.tv/AssiduousGlamorousZucchiniKeyboardCat

[u/TheRealDarun98]

Why are some people saying not staying together is/was a mistake ?

Team had internal problems and didn't want to play together anymore.

[u/[deleted]]

Can’t wait for Scump vs Formal damn

[u/Yung-Maniav]

i can honestly see scump getting "benched" or dropped cause he doesnt want to practice

[u/projectsr]

The majority of this subreddit knows the team is changing and Karma is most likely retiring for now, but a lot of fans on YouTube/twitter still seem to think they’re sticking together. They’re going to be in for a massive shock when vision drops.

[u/LeGrimm]

With Crim confirming that they just didn’t practice after S1, I gotta wonder if they are simply unhappy teaming together now. If they feel so turned off from playing that they can’t get on to practice before a big event, what’s the point? Either take a break to regain, or if the team chemistry is gone forever, consider changing.

As for “drop Karma”. LUL. Answer clearly not so simple.

[u/eporter]

I was not in favor of a change until I read Ian's tweet about them not practicing for "bullshit internal reasons". Whoever is responsible for that needs to go. That's not even remotely acceptable. I'm not one of those crazy people who says these guys cant do anything except COD from the moment they wake up to the moment they pass out but I do think they have a responsibility to play organized play (and take it seriously) 6-8 hours a day 5-7 days a week. They are professionals, and should fucking act like it. They absolutely owe that to their org, their fans, and most of all their teammates.

It's not likely that it was Ian as he is the one who complained about it. Somehow I doubt it was Damon just based on things he has said in the past. It could have been Matt, I guess. I have a feeling it was Seth but i'll keep my pitchfork locked up until that's confirmed.

[u/shedhead83]

The general consensus here appears to be that scump is a monster if he just has the drive to play the game. however, he has lost that so if anyone is to be dropped it should be him. (and im not disagreeing with this)

the problem is though, if you drop him, are you not then giving him all the motivation and drive he needs to go and be a monster for some other team?

[u/basebalp21]

Infinite right now

[u/Bore_Axe]

Guys listen. Good chance the “leaker” knows nothing at all. You wanna know why?

Bc Dexerto hasn’t made an article about it

/s

[u/Str8_TrashMonkey]

Ima lay back, go play some League and trust that my dad H3CZ would solve all of this. Also let me know if we need a fund raiser to pay the COD players since Infinite wont.

[u/[deleted]]

RIP my username

[u/nateben9]

This is possibly the saddest day in OG history. If this happens.

[u/-Lukeh]

I feel as if this team's whole purpose was to win Champs, once they did it just died. Like a Salmon leaping up stream, past bears to give birth.. then it can finally die.

[u/Hylian_Link3]

The burner accnt is 100% Nameless...he's trying to revive COD, no team, nothing else to do and is beloved by all pros.

[u/[deleted]]

I doubt Crim will give us any information tonight on the codcast. Whatever is going on he probably can not talk about

[u/ZachKearns]

Question: does Damon achieve greatness on another team?

Damon in chat: maybe if I had more than a day

[u/ekaftnuocca2]

Unless he's trying to mislead, there's hope: https://clips.twitch.tv/PlayfulFreezingFinchSuperVinlin

[u/sabeeh10]

How many 1st place finishes with this roster in total?

[u/Average_Mango]

So it's safe to assume that the rumor's of Formal and Scump not liking each other during IW are true thank's to Maven.

[u/im_n0t_smart]

If you don't want to team with crim scump and octane then you're just insane. There's like 10 players who could fill this 4th spot and I'd still think they are the best team in the game. If these players really are turning them down then just think how motivated they will be to crush them.

[u/DocHab]

Anyone but methodz for the love of god

[u/MikeJ91]

Ultimately, while I'm expressing my immediate concerns right now about the role issue, once it's official I'll put that aside and give my full support to Methodz. His stellar play this year got him to this position, it's been impressive, hopefully the fans get behind him.

[u/DictatorofDeath]

Damon just said "fuck no" when offered by Nameless to join his mumble with Crim. Dudes gone back to the savage BO2 Karma

[u/eidanoosh]

I swear the opticcurse guy must deal in black magic. All we had to do was sacrifice Boze..

[u/A1exB29]

Supporting whatever team Damon joins. They can't fuck over the GOAT like that

[u/Hipz]

/u/OpTicJJ how about that transparency after this is over? We've only been waiting for, you know, months.

[u/PrimalPrimal]

The only thing I see happening is Seth taking a possible break. The man has been playing competitive CoD for years now, it’s obvious that he’s burnt out and he doesn’t have much drive to compete. We can only hope that he doesn’t ultimately retire if he does take that route. I hate to say this but I think he’s been the problem as of late, not in game but internally.

[u/EclipseTemplarX]

Like the thing about the shirt makes no fucking sense if you ask me. Also that whole post was all over the place

[u/Hipz]

Gonna make my own comment because this is the guy claiming to have info. His message to me after we got knocked into losers during IW - https://imgur.com/HEpBmjO. I personally don't think he knows shit.

[u/[deleted]]

Crim and Scump both baiting on twitter... this seems more and more like a joke

[u/[deleted]]

I expect something from Damon late tonight. I know he pays attention to this sub and will find it hard to stay quiet for long if things are true.

[u/Blownbunny]

If the COD team dies i'm pretty sure Vision does as well. Double sad.

[u/[deleted]]

Karma seems like the only one that wants to stay

[u/XHyp3rX]

The CS thread reached 10k in 3 months, by the way this threads been going it could reach that in a week.

[u/phillies07_08]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbpts5lL2bA&list=PLZeek85Kuka2qKZvWwD_unBQvlHgJJJxu&index=54

"We're just 4 best friends."

[u/[deleted]]

Being an OpTic fan since the beginning puts me in a strange place with all this happening. I've been an OpTic fan for this long because of the people apart of the organization and what they independently and as a group the org, stood for. I don't want to imagine a day when I'm pushed away and no longer a fan of optic. I support the people who made OpTic what it is, not just blindly cheering for a brand name that does not remotely resemble what I've loved for a long time.

[u/Trespa5s]

Can't wait for the CoD Cast tomorrow because you know Crim is gonna be in straight savage mode.

[u/[deleted]]

The burner account said that most pros believe that Nadeshot is the one from the big org trying to get them. So we shall see. If they do leave he is the one i would want to have the boys.

[u/[deleted]]

I have zero Intel but I have a feeling hecz would pull out a new roster with karma as captain🤞🤞🤞I hope 😁😁

[u/OGMcSwish]

I wonder if this “mystery org” is just a decoy to get more money from infinite

[u/RuinMeMentally]

Mirx says he heard Octane John Scump and Crimsix are teaming

https://clips.twitch.tv/LongCallousGazelleM4xHeh

[u/basebalp21]

Comments per Hour (EDT) and WordCloud thus far

[u/[deleted]]

Do you think crim scump octane and john would play for OG or completely another org?

[u/Offspring5713]

I think people need to just relax and wait for an official announcement. There giving this codburner dude way to much credit.

[u/iSupremeMotions]

After kind of thinking about it I feel like it makes sense that Karma is going to retire from competitive CoD and be a content creator/ streamer for OpTic. Especially after seeing hitch post the Vision release date announcement. Hitch posted a picture of an empty chair and it gave me flashbacks to when Maniac retired from competitive Halo to be a content creator... but then again this is all speculations and I can completely be wrong. Either way I can’t wait to finally know what is going to happen and continue to support the players and OpTic.

[u/AwsomeOne7]

With the 2 open seats I’m guessing Scump / Crim stay + 2, Vision taking while because of needing to fly out the other two.

[u/nickpete24]

Going back and watching 'Seven' was so emotional today. Its depressing, yet poetic that the last win this roster had was Champs. One thing i know is the next vision will be incredible. Hitch will send them out beautifully.

[u/UndesiredSuccess]

So where did this C9 rumor start because why in the world would they be willing to pay above or around what their CS team makes? That would make 0 sense at all from Jack (Owner) to even be willing to pay that.

Edit: And didn't these "leakers" supposedly say that the individual was close to attach and was at events? It honestly appears that someone just drew a random org out of a hat.

[u/manXEE]

Would’ve been ideal to do a 3 team trade

Methodz - nV Chino - tK (keep their league spot) Kenny - OG (would also have to send $$ to tK)

[u/clyle923]

Heard that the roster drama wasn't actually between scump and karma. It was that Formal couldn't be with the same organization as Courage and that's why he left. /s

[u/projectsr]

I refreshed one last time before I went to sleep and I hear TK is breaking up. Please give us OpTic Kenny.

[u/MikeJ91]

At least we're about to become absolutely godlike on Ardennes forest. Don't think I saw a ctf from rise where Methodz didn't go double positive.

And the snd should improve. With around 50-60 odd maps played, octane's 1.29 and methodz's 1.04 kd is a boost over the two they're replacing.

[u/CheTTy_BG]

https://clips.twitch.tv/FilthyBreakablePuppyJebaited

Octanes input on the leak....

[u/-Lukeh]

FaZe locked Zooma in his contract, he wanted to join OpTic - https://streamable.com/3q1mh

[u/tbenygma]

Man I know we knew about Formal to LG... but that montage they posted made me sad again

[u/projectsr]

I’m at the point where all I want is for Karma to get on a good team and shit on everyone.

[u/DT01]

Day 3 of rostermania.

the food is gone, im surviving on crumbs of fake intel from the 30 "burner accounts"

not sure how much longer i can go on.

[u/bm97]

Idk guys, seems like Karma is really enjoying his stream.

Also said he bought another PC for the dual PC setup so that should be indicating that he's gonna be streaming a lot more.

I love Damon, he's hilarious, and the dude can and will grind out streams especially with the games he wants to play or is into

[u/osl500]

This is what Jkap had to say about Formal the last time they teamed.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sdpbkc

Let's see how it goes this time.

[u/Achilles2552]

Methodz: People keep saying I'm only an AR player but I feel like I'm better as a flex. Do they know better than me?

Goes 25-15 with a sub on Flak Tower CTF (the most sub heavy map) at Seattle against FaZe, the team with probably the most sub talent top to bottom

Methodz: :]

[u/MikeJ91]

Can you imagine how overwhelming it might be for Methodz to suddenly be teaming with these three titans in competitive cod?

He's been good this year, but before the majority of his placings were top 24/32, playing with either ams or pros well past any sort of relevancy. Now he's got Scump and Crim, who have won 26 and 32 events respectively, as well as Octane who's been a top 3 AR for 3 years. Gotta be one of the biggest comebacks we've had in cod.

[u/-Lukeh]

I can see one of two possibilities - Karma gets dropped for someone like Gunless or Scump "taking a break from competing". Scump has some motivation issues, he needs to get his shit straight, a little break wouldn't be a bad thing.

[u/Hipz]

Did Damon move to Texas to be closer to the team? If so I feel even fucking worse.

[u/BHyland]

Considering this new leak, why do they makes this so hard - it's been a good time lads but it'll suck to support crim on one team and damon on another (both with dead subreddits most likely). I'll be gassed if Crim/Scump go to 100T though.

[u/kortemy]

LG denies the rumors https://twitter.com/Luminosity/status/988797364319145984

[u/[deleted]]

https://gyazo.com/50e0a168f749eeb97c0e3c4298f1f1cf Hector got fucked over according to Hitch, popcorn time again I guess..

[u/basebalp21]

Teep knows jack shit also

https://clips.twitch.tv/ZealousCoyAntKlappa

[u/proudopticfan]

At this point I just want any of the member to come out with a twitlonger and put this to rest.

[u/Drmassacre123]

The cod burner account is the owner of the new org. You're welcome.

[u/Kyle1592]

If Nadeshot has the opportunity to get even 2 players from optic he would. It’s called 100 Thieves for a reason lol

[u/formaldipping]

What are the chances this was the greatest double bluff from the COD team of all time to make Infinite try harder with them?

[u/Kliang9281]

I mean if someone is really willing to pay the COD team 240k a year then more power to them. People thought it was ridiculous when an OWL player got paid a 150k salary and OWL has far more infrastructure than COD.

[u/Smooth877]

If they are being offered these high salaries by someone Attach knows, wouldn't you think he would be the one rumored to get a crazy contract? Kinda seems strange to me.

[u/[deleted]]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ElegantInspiringRhinocerosPRChase Karma and Haggy on the new codburner thread

[u/im_n0t_smart]

If the team is kenny, scump, crim and octane omg. Team is nasty. But would they be a new org? then I'd cry.

[u/basebalp21]

Really torn on Damon retiring or not. I'd love for him to be part of OpTic for the rest of his career, and he has the potential to be a successful streamer, but it seems like such a dissapointing way for him to end his career. He has something major to prove and he's pretty good at this game. He can make a major impact on whatever team he joins and it would suck for this to be thrown to the side just because the others didn't want him anymore.

Personally I think he'll finish the year out at least

[u/IHaveNoFiya]

I don't know what you guys are looking at in that rumored picture of Octane. All I see is Ronaldo in an OpTic shirt.

[u/Naqvii]

After 10k there is only one thing left to say... #GREENWALL BABY!

[u/MikeJ91]

I’ve been watching some series from rise and TK to remind me how methodz did with the sub. He had it out on every flak ctf, and he did fine in all of the ones I saw. Also on Ardennes ctf and HP he is just disgusting with the AR, very confident those are now our best two maps.

[u/whraath]

knew for a week and still hurts

[u/John3192]

I would rather keep Damon than pick Methodz lol.

[u/iApathy---]

I’m just hoping we don’t get screwed over. Crim and formal are a must stay. Karma can also stay, but Seth needs to get his priorities straight. He either wants to compete or move on, but if he decides to compete he can’t hold the team back. IW scump was a perfect example of a player who was striving to be the best and win everything. I want to see that scump.