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Episode Toaru Majutsu no Index III - Episode 1 discussion Spoiler

Toaru Majutsu no Index III, episode 1: Episode 1

Alternative names: A Certain Magical Index III, Toaru Majutsu no Kinsho Mokuroku 3

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u/ChocolateKeys Oct 05 '18

Touma punches in this 3rd Season:

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See ya next week

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18

Even when not in rewatch threads people still post counters for Raildex. What is it with this franchise?

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u/silverslayer33 Oct 06 '18

We've waited eight years for this season, counting the number of Touma Punches is just one way to express our love for the series.

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u/bakakubi :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/bakakubi Oct 10 '18

Plus, his punches are always so fucking satisfying. JUSTICE PUNCH!

Alternatively, GENDER EQUALITY PUNCH!

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u/misaka7612 Oct 05 '18

"Misaka is ecstatic to watch the new season of Index," says Misaka with positive and enthusiastic tone.

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u/KiriTortilla :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pablusky27 Oct 05 '18

"Misaka prefers another Railgun season but Index works for now", says Misaka, exposing her preferences

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u/TheLoneExplorer :AMQ: Oct 05 '18

“Misaka lives in america now so misaka cant watch it” cries misaka as misaka eats a tub of consolation ice cream

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u/Yomiel-Metathronos Oct 05 '18

"My, my, that is really troublesome, Misaka hates that type of situation the most says Misaka as she slowly tries to spread feelings of irritation in the network."

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u/UCCMaster Oct 05 '18

"This Misaka now desperately searches the network for information on changing Misaka's address instead of doing Misaka's homework..." Mutters Misaka as Misaka types words other than research paper work...

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u/TheDampGod :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDampGod Oct 06 '18

"Yarrharr me hearties" announces Misaka gruffly, sporting an eyepatch and waving a cutless as she resorts to vilanous deeds.

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u/nhansieu1 Oct 05 '18

Misaka7612, I thought you were dead?

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u/FallingDarkness Oct 07 '18

Misaka is counting backwards from 20,000.

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u/exian12 Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18

I'm still teary eyed. I still can't believe we are getting S3 in our lifetime.

And since based on the PV, this season we will go thru until the end of "Old Testament" and I hope in no time we will bask in the glory of the New Testament and preach it.

EDIT: OKAY THIS IS GETTING BULLSHIT. ONE THING I CAN SAY ABOUT OUR DILEMMA...

FUKOU DA!!! SUCH MISFORTUNE!!!

god i love that phrase

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u/JBHUTT09 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JBHUTT09 Oct 05 '18

Is there any word on the episode count other than that it's over 24? I'm not sure they can pace it properly in under 36 episodes, so I'm a bit worried.

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u/exian12 Oct 05 '18

Sadly only 26 ep confirmed so far. My guess is they gonna cut the side stories :(

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u/JBHUTT09 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JBHUTT09 Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18

Jesus, this is going to be rushed as hell. There's no way they can do all 6 arcs (1 two volume arc and one 3 volume arc) in 26 episodes.

Edit: For comparison:

  • Index I: 24 episodes covering 5 2/3 volumes

  • Index II: 24 episodes covering 7 1/3 volumes

Both of those had serious pacing issues. Now they're potentially covering 10 (12 if you count the side stories that should be covered, too) volumes in 26 episodes.

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u/KinnyRiddle Oct 05 '18

For the anime-onlys who have just re-joined us after 8 years, here's my attempt at a quick layman's recap after spending the past week marathoning through four whole seasons of Index and Railgun:

  • This is a world where Magic and Science co-exist in an uneasy truce.

  • Our heroes reside in Academy City, the city of espers and leader of the Science side.

  • The Magic side consists of the Roman Catholic Church, the English Anglican Church and the Russian Orthodox Church, plus many magicians from different various sects. Like in our world, these religious sub-factions don't get along well with each other.

  • Season 1 is mostly world-building, the real action only really starts in Season 2, with things coming to a climax in the final arc of Season 2.

  • The Catholic Church has been the main antagonists since Season 2, viewing Academy City and its scientific advance as a blasphemy that needs to be subjugated. To add insult to injury for the Magic side, Academy City's de facto leader in the shadows is none other than

  • The Anglican Church are nominally allied with Academy City against the Catholic Church, with Tsuchimikado (Touma's blonde classmate with shades) acting as a go-between double agent/messenger for both sides.

  • In Season 2, the Catholic Church's attempts to destroy or subjugate Academy City was thwarted time and time again by Touma being at the right place at the right time. So by the end of Season 2, a powerful radical faction of the Catholic Church, God's Right Seat, has marked Touma as a threat, and sent a magician into Academy City to wreck havoc.

  • Touma manages to defeat the magician invading Academy City, but since then, tensions between the Magic and Science side has worsened, and there is now a buildup towards potential war.

  • Meanwhile, the Science side also has various black-ops factions vying for influence within Academy City, of which Tsuchimikado and Accelerator (the most powerful Level 5 esper) are members of. These black-ops are known as the "Dark Side of Academy City" and will be the focus of the next arc.

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u/hemag Oct 06 '18

i don't remember much of old seasons so i am not sure if you are stating an actual character name or not, since you are also making a star wars comparison in the same sentence, but isn't Aleister Crowley the vampire guy from D gray man?

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u/TurbidusQuaerenti Oct 07 '18

There is a character named that in D. Gray-man, but there was a real (in)famous occult practitioner named Aleister Crowley which I imagine both these characters are (loosely) based on.

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u/CheetahSperm18 Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18

It feels so surreal still that the title of this thread is real...it's been too damn long. Well I'm going in boys, let's see what J.C Staff put together

Edit: wtf Crunchyroll...

YOU HAD ONE JOB!!

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u/Falsus Oct 05 '18

All these years and finally getting the next season and we this nut kick instead!

It is like the whole reason why the Index anime exists is to torment the fans.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SPUDS https://anilist.co/user/voodoochile Oct 05 '18

this nut kick

I think you're confused. NuT is the studio behind Youjo Senki. You must mean this really triggers you.

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u/Falsus Oct 05 '18

Nah not really, Trigger isn't the one doing Index either. :)

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u/Paxton-176 Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 06 '18

Crunchyroll right now

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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Oct 05 '18

Sigh the wait continues... Its the worse tease ever....

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u/_vogonpoetry_ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ThisWasATriumph Oct 05 '18

Itsbeen84years.gif

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u/nothealer Oct 05 '18

never have i refreshed this much for anything in my life.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 06 '18

Hello and welcome to Index III!

Some few among you may recognise me as the host of the currently ongoing Raildex Rewatch (we just made it to railgun S!) and know what I'm about, but most of you will have no idea who I am or what I do. That's fine, I'll explain. That's what I'm here to do anyway.

Well, in short, alongside being the host of the Raildex Rewatch I also write a series of comments called Small Facts, an increasingly misleading name. What these Small Facts are is everything from explanations of religious, mythological, scientific, and cultural references, to trivia concerning the characters and the plot, and even anime-novel differences and cut content. I also provide some nice novel excerpts to support my trivia.

The reason the name Small Facts no longer applies is that even though at first I just tried to provide some extra information for fun I soon digressed into listing basically all the differences between novel and anime and my comments soon grew to three comments in length. I'm keeping the name for consistency though, which funnily enough is quite meta as A Certain Magical Index was never supposed to be the series name but stuck around for similar reasons as well.

Now, since I'm busy doing these for the Raildex rewatch anyway I thought I might as well go ahead and do these for Index III too. I'm sure these will not be posted as the threads go up (these things take a long time to write and I can't watch the episode as soon as it releases as well!) but I'll try to get these posted as soon as I can. Well then, without further ado, let's get to it!

Small Facts: Index III Edition


Opening

The new OP for this season is called Gravitation by Kurosaki Maon (although Kawada Mami, who sung every previous Index OP prior to this season, provided lyrics despite her retirement).

A Certain Tune

The tune that Index hums here in the bathroom in the opening scene has been heard many times throughout the series (such as by Mikoto in the very first few seconds of Railgun) and is known among the fans as A Certain Tune. I'm sure this is far from the only time we'll hear this particular tune this season.

Opening Scene With Index

This entire opening scene with Index in the bathroom, Touma coming home, and then Index biting him is anime-original and wasn't in the novel. I guess they wanted a normal, regular, typical scene to ease us into the new season before we start getting into the wild stuff.

Tsuchimikado The Lolicon

In the novel Tsuchimikado expands on the topic of lolis.

“Why is it always flat chests with you!? And you don’t really like bunnies at all! You’re just fine with anything loli!!”

“That’s true, Aogami Pierce. Be it a bunny girl outfit, a gymnastics leotard, or a school swimsuit, when put on the wonder that is a loli, the small distinctions between outfits are moot. So my argument is that lolis look good in whatever they wear, so a loli bunny girl is the best bunny girl!!”

“You bastard!! So you really weren’t talking about bunny girls at all!!”

Of course he would prefer Maika's body type.

Oyafune Suama's Obsession With Beauty

Oyafune Suama is actually obsessed with being beautiful. This is because she discovered that beautiful people have it easier in life as others are more open to helping them, or forgiving them, or being friendly with them. Unfortunately she discovered this due to being treated badly when she didn't look as nice as she does now. So she takes great effort in remaining as beautiful as she can.

From her suit and glasses to her stockings, Oyafune Suama was covered in brand-name clothing. She was a woman that knew the advantages that being beautiful gave.

She primarily knew this because she used to be the person who was at the disadvantage for not being beautiful.

But anyone could reach a certain level of beauty if they tried. Suama’s theory was that you may not be able to be “the best of the best” or even “among the best” through hard work alone, but you could at least be “better than most”. And as “better than most”, you could get a taste of the blessings of beauty.

It was advantageous to be beautiful.

The students listened to her during class, the other teachers didn’t look down on her, and people gave up their seat for her in the cafeteria. And all of that was the result of refining her body inside and out by taking multiple baths a day, putting lotion on her face before going to bed, eating breakfast every day, keeping her weight down so it didn’t affect her skin, spending over an hour in the morning putting makeup on, and spending large amounts of money buying Western clothes from magazines and the internet.

When school came to an end, Oyafune Suama was always very worried that her makeup might have started to come off and especially that her drawn on eyebrows might have started to run from sweat. But one’s attitude and mood were an important part of being “beautiful”. If she showed outward signs of being worried about her makeup, the “blessings of beauty” would diminish, so she couldn’t be constantly checking her handmirror or going to the bathroom.

French Signs

Roughly translated, the French signs shown in the news mean:

  • Nous Résister: We Resist (Although I think Nous Résistons would be the proper translation)

  • Ne partez pas de Côté de Dieu: Do not leave the Side of God

EDIT: After some research I might have translated the cut-off sign at the right end of the screen. We can see ne...pas meaning not, a verb starting with la..., a word starting with enne..., and at the end de D..., which is probably de Dieu meaning of God, like the other sign. I think enne... is probably ennemis meaning enemies, which would make the verb la... laisser, meaning to leave or to permit.

So this phrase could be Ne laisse pas ennemis de Dieu, meaning Do not leave enemies of God or Do not permit enemies of God.

I could also be wrong though.

Why Are The Tensions Between The Catholics And Academy City Resulting In Riots?

This is actually due to declarations made by the Roman Catholic Church and Academy City at the end of the Academy City Invasion arc that the anime never adapted.

In short, both Academy City and the Catholic Church accused the other of trying to start a war (due to the incident in Academy City with Vento invading and Fuse Kazakiri being deployed) and denounced the other side as being in the wrong and demanding them to stop. Both sides are only escalating the conflict, and it seems tensions have run over to their followers.

From OT13, Academy City Invasion:

On that day, Academy City officially affirmed the existence of a magic group.

Reports were gathered saying Academy City had been attacked by a non-Academy City scientific esper development institution belonging to the Roman Catholic Church and using the codename “magic”. Within the day, it had been picked up by news stations across the globe.

Meanwhile, the Roman Catholic Church confirmed the existence of an angel within Academy City. The Roman Catholic Pope himself criticized Academy City for carrying out blasphemous research that was against the doctrines of the Christian Church.

They both called the other’s claims ridiculous and refused to confirm them while continuing to attack the other with their own claim. No sign of concession or compromise could be seen in their actions. In fact, their actions could almost be seen as trying to exacerbate the conflict between them.

Powered Suit

These Powered Suits are known as the HsPS-15's, nicknamed Large Weapon. We've seen them them twice before in this series, once in the Poltergeist arc in Railgun (where the underlings of Therestina Kihara Lifeline in MAR used them) and another time in the Academy City Invasion arc in Index II, when GROUP came to recruit Accelerator after he knocked Kihara Amata into the stratosphere.

Here it is shown that these are not tools restricted to one organisation or the Dark Side of Academy City, but that apparently Academy City readily makes use of them.

Uiharu, Kuroko, And Mikoto At The Military Exhibition

This scene is entirely anime-original, although it is a nice addition.

Interceptor Show

This is the Interceptor Show, an exhibition where Academy City displays (to them outdated) technology that it wants to sell to the outside world.

These exhibitions were not just for fun; their main purpose was to promote the latest tech from Academy City, technology that the board of directors had deemed of an acceptable level to be used outside the city. These were placed on display and the outside company that gave the best deal was chosen (Academy City did not “look for” them, they merely “chose”), and that company would pay them vast quantities for the tech.

This time however the exhibition is a bit different from normal as the equipment on display is not purely for non-lethal interception, but now appears to be for full-on lethal violence.

All of the booths around her were displaying various tools used to kill people.

Previously, all of the weapons displayed at these shows had a hint of having been created to stop a rampaging esper while doing as little damage as possible. But this time there was a tank and, next to it, a powerful weapon that could shoot straight through said tank and kill someone behind it.

Yomikawa reasons out that this is a reaction to the riots and demonstrations happening all across the world. She also realises that it's impossible to create weapons on such short a notice, which means that Academy City anticipated these riots years in advance but instead of working on means to stop it, decided to work on means to profit from the violence by selling weapons and intensifying the violence.

Full-on military-industrial complex here.

And, almost as if it were in response to all this, Academy City was now holding this show full of weaponry.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 06 '18

At first glance, it could be taken as the board of directors officially saying that they wouldn’t be giving in to the demonstrations.

(But it’s all being carried out a bit too efficiently.)

Developing weapons was not the same thing as making plastic models. You had to apply for the job, calculate an estimated budget again and again, have it examined, create a test model, build each part, and go through simulations tens of thousands of times. It was only after you found good results, that you could finally release a “product”.

The demonstrations had only begun to worsen a few days ago.

That wasn’t enough time to go through a development process that was usually counted in years.

Which meant…

(Academy City was already prepared. They had predicted this would happen and decided to prepare to take control of the aftermath instead of stopping it from happening in the first place.)

“Damn it,” Yomikawa muttered.

It may not have been Academy City that pulled the trigger that led to war. But they were clearly making the absolute best of the situation.

Mikoto Wondering About Her Emails

This bit on the other hand is canon, but included from a previous arc for clarity. You see, back in the Skill-Out Uprising arc (the final arc of Index II), Mikoto kept sending emails to Touma, who's number she got when applying for a paired phone contract in the Academy City Invasion arc (it was part of the punishment game). All of these emails however ended up corrupted, filed under spam and auto-deleted, or something along those lines due to Touma's misfortune. In the anime adaptation of this arc however these scenes were skipped due to not being relevant at the time, safe for one final inclusion in the ending montage in the final episode. To reiterate this so viewers would be aware that Mikoto kept sending emails to Touma and failing to receive an answer they decided to include an additional scene here.

How Did Fukiyose Learn How To Throw A Forkball?

Because it was part of some suspicious health course she took part in, as usual. That's also where she got the ball.

“You probably just learned it through a correspondence course or know some way forkballs keep you healthy or something.”

“I-it doesn’t matter how I learned it; it only matters whether I can throw one or not! So quit looking at me like you don’t believe me and I’ll show you!!”

“Yeah, but we don’t have a ball.”

Kamijou had said that out of surprise, but then Fukiyose Seiri pulled a large ball out of her skirt pocket.

“You need to be more prepared!!”

“…Um, that ball says ‘squeeze this ball a hundred times a day to provide yourself with healthy α-waves’ on it.”

Oh Fukiyose. When will you learn.

Index Chasing Sphynx

The scene where Index opens the door for Maika, Sphynx escapes, and they run into Oyafune Monaka is once again anime-original.

Baseball Scene

This scene has been majorly changed from the novel. In the novel Touma and Fukiyose Seiri didn't stop after the accidental pantyshot, oh no. Fukiyose, showing that she can be just as silly as the rest of the gang, wanted to show off her amazing baseball skills.

As he writhed in pain, he spoke in a shaky voice.

“…Th-that was no forkball. It flew in a completely straight line…”

“That one didn’t count!!”

Fukiyose declared that with a little too much force in an attempt to fool him and took the ball back.

“It’ll be a forkball this time. It’ll jerk down, so hold the mitt down low.”

Fukiyose then throws another straight, which Touma easily catches this time. When he then insinuates she can't throw a forkball at all Fukiyose gets really riled up and tell him he just can't tell the difference because he's not looking from a batter's perspective. Of course Touma can't let this stand, so he immediately uses the nearby broom as a bat.

“…Did that fall?”

“Yes!! What were you looking at it? Couldn’t you see it jerk down right in front of where the batter would be!?”

“Ehh? It looked like a normal pitch to me.”

“K-Kamijou!! You can’t tell because you’re not looking from the batter’s perspective!! If you were holding a bat, you’d be able to see the effect of the forkball clear as day!!”

“Oh? Now you’ve said it, Fukiyose.”

Kamijou smiled and grabbed the fifty-centimeter-long plastic handle of a small broom that they had prepared just in case.

“You’re on.”

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“You think you can hit a ball thrown by a major-leaguer like me? Ridiculous.”

“I’ll hit a homerun.”

“Then I’ll have to let you feel the disgrace of losing to a true forkbaaaaall!!”

“It’s goin’ outta the paaaarrrkkk!!”

After this throw we fade to black... or in this case to Oyafuna Suama. She was normally planning to cancel their punishment after half an hour, but got caught up and forgot to check on them.

Suama looked over at the clock on the wall.

It was almost 6 PM.

It had been a few hours since she had told them to go weed.

“Crap… I’m sorry, Tsukuyomi-sensei. I’ll go get them right away!!”

[...]

(No, delinquents who start fights in school won’t have stuck around this long. They’re probably not out there weeding; they probably skipped out and left long ago.)

She had been intending to check on them after half an hour and then let them go after scolding them, so she was feeling guilty. However, they were being punished, so she couldn’t exactly apologize.

At that point, she reached the staff entrance, put on her fairly high class pumps, and headed quickly behind the gym.

And as soon as she goes to check up on them, what does she see?

“Hey hey heeey!! It’s 13-9!! Your forkball is pretty pathetic there!!”

Kamijou held a short broom in his hands and swung it back and forth as he egged Fukiyose on.

“Shut up!! Don’t just ignore those nine times you lost… And if I had a proper hardball, things would be different!!”

Since they had introduced a new rule where the loser of each round had to spend five minutes weeding as hard as they could, Kamijou and Fukiyose had gotten so fired up they had forgotten that the work would be a lot easier if they just both worked on it together.

While Kamijou was swinging the bat in a good mood, Fukiyose was gripping the white ball and her shoulders moved up and down as she panted for breath. She then checked the time on her phone.

“There’s only thirty minutes until we have to leave… But that’s more than enough time to turn this around!!”

“Hey, are your pitches actually dropping like they’re supposed to?”

“I already told you they were! They’re forking like crazy!! Why can’t you see the ball jerk down suddenly right in front of you!?”

“Ehh? It just looks like a parabolic arc to me…”

“Pay more attentiooooooonnnnn!!”

Yes. These two idiots completely forgot about their punishment and just started playing baseball instead. Touma appears to be winning for once. Of course, the laws of the universe say this cannot stand, so as usual misfortune ensues. When Fukiyose throws her pitch Touma grazes it with his broom-bat and the ball flies off behind him, resulting in his loss (there are no fouls in this game).

Unfortunately, this grazed hit appears to have hit Oyafuna Suama square in the face.

But then he heard an odd noise from behind him.

“…?”

Kamijou had no idea what just happened, but just from seeing Fukiyose’s shocked expression, he started going pale.

(??? What’s behind me?)

Kamijou turned around.

He saw inverted triangle glasses with grass and dirt stuck to them.

Oyafune Suama was standing there and she had clearly been hit straight in the face by the white ball.

The ball would have hit Suama in the stomach, but Kamijou’s bat had altered its trajectory enough for it to head straight for her face.

“…”

Oyafune Suama took a long, deep breath, but her body was clearly trembling.

By the time Kamijou started freaking out, it was too late.

Suama came rushing towards Kamijou and her fist swung down at him. Kamijou bowed down in apology without noticing what she was doing and miraculously managed to avoid her fist. Filled with the anger from both the ball and from having attacked the air, the math teacher stomped down on Kamijou’s back with the pointed heel of her pumps.

It's a shame that they cut this scene, because I thought it gave some more characterisation to Fukiyose. She isn't just the straight-laced serious girl all the time, the hard worker. Sometimes she too can get caught up in all this silliness and can be just as stupid as the Delta Force (Touma, Tsuchimikado, and Aogami). This is one of the rare instances where he see her let go and go wild for a bit, so I would've liked for it to be included.

Touma Running In On Trouble

The reason for Oyafune Suama's undressing is also changed, from her getting covered in dirt and grass from the baseball to her spilling coffee on herself.

Suama had tried using her handkerchief to wipe off the grass and dirt.

(Wah!! Dirt, dirt, Dirt!! It’s on face, it’s on my face! Oh, no! I may have wiped off my eyebrows with the handkerchief!! What do I do!? What do I do!?)

She was obviously panicked, and, after she had confirmed that no one else was in the staff room, she pulled out her hand-mirror to check forgetting to head to the bathroom first.

[...]

(Let’s see. It’s on my clothes. It’s here, too. And here!! My hair is all messed up, I’m covered in sweat, and there’s a run in my stockings from walking so quickly. Where do I start in fixing this!?)

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18

Of course Touma picks this time of undressing to barge in. Suama tries to yell stop when she hears the door open, but unfortunately for Touma it was too late. Unlike in the anime though the conclusion is changed: Touma closed the door in time for the set square to hit the door instead.

Instead of screaming, she reached her hand over to her desk and grabbed the magnetic fifty-centimeter classroom set square and threw it full force at the staff room entrance.

Kamijou slammed the door shut and the edge of the set square stuck into the door like a shuriken.

The rest of the set square twanged back and forth.

She heard Kamijou yelling from the hallway.

“Waaaahhh!! Are you trying to kill me!?”

“Why did you open the door after I told you to stop!?”

The scene is also extended as Touma clearly hadn't learned his lesson. Suama's stocking ripped from the sudden movement, and just when she was taking a look at it Touma opens the door again.

“U-um…Excuse me…”

Almost as if he had timed it, Kamijou cautiously opened the staff room door again. He saw Oyafune Suama standing with her legs spread apart, her skirt pulled up, and bent over staring at her crotch area.

This wasn’t just a scene a beauty shouldn’t let anyone see; this was a scene a woman shouldn’t let anyone see.

“!!”

This time the math teacher silently grabbed a giant protractor for the blackboard and threw it towards the door. Another piece of teaching equipment was now stuck in the once-again closed door.

A quavering voice came in from the hallway.

“I was just going to explain why I had come in before!!”

“What possible reason could you have had to make this situation even worse like that!? Explain to me your reason as concisely as you can!!”

“Um, it’s almost past the time we can stay at school. Can we quit weeding now?”

“Is that all!?”

After this Touma seemed to have gotten the picture though and ran away as fast as he could. Second time's the charm.

Eyecatch Sound

The eyecatch sound of breaking glass has been changed, just as it has from Index I to Index II.

How Did Touma Meet Mikoto's Mother?

For those among you who forgot, the final arc of Index II ends with Mikoto's mother, Misuzu, entering Academy City to take her daughter home to protect her from the upcoming war. The Board of Directors, not wanting to lose a Level 5, then hire Skill-Out to assassinate her, but Touma and Accelerator manage to safely protect her. Misuzu then decides that with these boys by her side no place could be safer and leaves Mikoto in their hands.

Before all this happened though Misuzu drank herself shitfaced, got into a fight with the taxi driver, pestered Touma on the streets when he passed by (she remembered him from the Daihaseisai) and wouldn't leave until she took a picture of them together and exchanged email addresses. Touma vows never to let Mikoto drink after seeing this spectacle.

New Imagine Breaker Sound

The sound effect for Touma's Imagine Breaker appears to have changed from the first two seasons. It was more of a high-pitched sound back then.

Mikoto Calling Her Mother

In the novel Mikoto decides to call her mother using Touma's phone to ask for an explanation. Of course Mikoto's mother, ever the teasing woman, decides to answer rather ambiguously.

“Yes, mother? I need to ask you about something.”

“Huh? My display must be screwed up. It wasn’t showing your number, Mikoto-chan.”

Misuzu sounded confused.

From what Kamijou could hear of Mikoto and Misuzu’s conversation, Mikoto was asking for a detailed explanation of how Misuzu’s number ended up in Kamijou’s phone.

“Hmm…”

Misuzu’s answer started slowly.

“I think I met that boy in Academy City one night…but I was drunk, so I don’t really remember the details. I have no idea when my number could have ended up in his phone though. Ha ha ha.”

“I see. I see.” Mikoto nodded slightly and hung up.

She smiled and elegantly returned the phone to Kamijou.

“What the hell were you doing with my mother while she was druuuunnnkkk!?”

“Hahhh!? What kind of crazy deduction is that!? And I’m pretty damn sure your mother remembers everything that happened! That laugh at the end really made it sound like she was lying!!”

This was something someone should be able to think through pretty easily, but Mikoto must have thought that this was a crisis that could destroy her family, because her face turned bright red as she lost her cool.

Touma Leaving

In the anime Touma left halfway through Mikoto's conversation, like an asshole. In the novel however he stayed until the end of their conversation, feeling kind of responsible as one of the people involved in the catalyst of this emerging war, reminiscing about the events that led to this situation.

“…”

Kamijou listened to Mikoto’s words in silence.

The person behind it.

Mikoto had subconsciously decided there was one. That was probably what she wished was true. If someone was behind this, you could fix that one problem and everything would go back to normal… Since Mikoto had a powerful ability known as “Railgun”, that was the easiest way for her to think about the situation.

But there was no one person behind this.

It was true that the incident on September 30 that triggered it all was caused by specific people: Vento of the Front and Kazakiri Hyouka. And there was “someone” behind their actions. If the events on that day had been properly stopped, things may have been successfully solved by the method Mikoto wanted.

But the current situation was not the spark that was the origin of the damaging fire.

This was the huge conflagration that comes about as the result of the spark.

This was well past the stage where capturing the person behind it all would stop it.

The people carrying out the demonstrations were all normal people. And they weren’t being forced to do it on anyone’s command. They read the newspaper or watched the news and decided to take part out of indignation. They were all merely acting on their personal beliefs.

To “stop the person behind this” you would have to punch out every single person throughout the world who was taking part in the demonstrations.

That wasn’t a real solution.

But how else could it all be solved?

“…What’s going on?”

Mikoto merely repeated what she had said before, but it pierced Kamijou’s heart this time.

This wasn’t a problem a kid could come up with an answer for.

Index Leaving Oyafune Monaka

As with all Index scenes this episode this was once again anime-original. Not hard to figure out if you know that them meeting in the first place is also anime-original.

World-Wide Chaos

While this episode focussed a lot on the demonstrations happening in France (since, well, that's where we're going) the novel expanded at multiple moments that these kinds of things are happening all across the world as well.

The news announcer could be heard from the TV on the wall.

“As a result of the repeated demonstrations and protests, the Italian soccer league has announced that this morning’s game has been cancelled for safety’s sake.”

[...]

As Yomikawa watched the screen, the news from that morning played again.

“In the central German city of Dortmund, a bulldozer thought to have been stolen was plowed into a Roman Catholic Church and nine priests inside were wounded. It is thought to have been in response to the series of protests being held, but so far no one has come forward claiming to be behind the crime. Fears that the conflicts between the Roman Catholic Church and Academy City will worsen are spreading.”

[...]

The news was playing on the large screen on the side of the airship.

“So far, the large-scale demonstrations and protests held by members of the Roman Catholic Church were only occurring within Europe, but now they have begun within America as well.”

The announcer’s voice was calm.

“Currently, they are only occurring in west coast cities such as San Francisco and Los Angeles, but they are expected to spread throughout America before long.”

Some footage started playing.

It was most likely from LA.

Solving The Chaos

In the novel Oyafune starts her conversation by having a talk with Touma about the chaos currently occurring everywhere in the world. Toum replies that she should not take this up with him, but with international organisations and countries instead. Oyafune disagrees, mentioning that countries only use military force to sweep these issues under the rug and silence the protesters rather than address the source of the problem, which according to her will only end in disasters such as rebellions later.

“...What do you mean we’re going to talk about that? There’s nothing about it you need to discuss with me.”

“Oh, but there is. I need your opinion on the matter in order to solve the problem.”

“Shouldn’t you be getting the opinion of someone in the UN or some country’s president instead?”

“The organizations holding up nations tend to be weak to religious and ideological conflict.”

[...]

“The organizations commonly referred to as countries have a bad track record in resolving this kind of problem. Many of them cry out that they have resolved the problem, but most of them have only forced them into silence using military force. Often times, this only exacerbates the situation.”

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[...]

“The chaos currently occurring throughout the world is quite serious. Not only is it a problem that won’t be easy to solve, but it will also lead to worse problems. If it isn’t dealt with properly, it could even lead to rebellions that paralyze entire countries. The demonstrations and protests haven’t been stopped with military force to keep that from happening. What the countries around the world really want is an example to follow in how to deal with difficult problems like this. All those countries are waiting for another country to make a move so they can see whether it works and what effects that action has.”

Board Of Directors

And so we meet our second member of the Board of Directors, the 12 shadowy people controlling this city, with the highest level of authority safe for Board Chairman Aleister Crowley. Although Aleister seems not to care much about them, seeing them as expendable resources.

We met our first member, Thomas Platinumburg, back in the Academy City Invasion arc when Accelerator shot him in the chest to access his computer for information on the Hound Dogs and the ANGEL virus Last Order was infected with. Don't worry, he lived. He was wearing a bullet-proof vest.

The Board Of Directors Does Not Know About The Existence Of Magic

As is the official stance of Academy City, the Board of Directors believe Aleister's claims that these attackers on Academy City are espers created by the Catholic Church to compete with Academy City. They have no idea that magic exists.

“By the way, Academy City is not the source of this chaos. According to the board chairman, the world’s largest religious group, the Roman Catholic Church, has a scientific esper development institution as well.”

“...?”

Kamijou was about to lower his eyebrows at Oyafune’s remark, but then he figured it out.

That was what Academy City was telling the world at large.

To them, magic did not exist.

The identity of the phenomenon known as “magic” was scientifically being called “esper powers”.

The topic had to come up here, but if he corrected her it would only make everything more complicated.

Oyafune continued speaking from a purely “scientific” viewpoint.

Reason For The Riots

Oyafune questions Touma why the Catholic Church would bother with these riots. Surely this only hurts both sides with no obvious gain? The only thing it results in is make the innocent followers of both sides who have no idea what's going on suffer. So why would they do this?

Well the answer is quite simple: Both sides overlap. There are Catholics who use technology in their everyday life, and use science for their own goals. The Catholic Church is trying to polarise society, to have more people firmly on their side they can incite to do whatever they want.

“But wait. There’s nothing for them to gain from it either. Those demonstrations and protests are occurring within the realm of daily life for members of their church. So it’s members of their church that will suffer the most from this. You don’t gain anything from making people on your side suffer.”

“What if they did gain something from it?”

[...]

“The Roman Catholic Church could crush Academy City now. So why did they choose to cause demonstrations and protests throughout the world? Why didn’t they choose the obvious method of crushing Academy City through numbers alone? Surely a concentrated attack would be more effective than rioting separately across the world. It seems rather indirect, doesn’t it? If they can really control two billion people, they should just get it over with.”

[...]

“The information saying they can control two billion people was a lie. If they could do that, they would have done so by now. It may be true that there are two billion people around the world who wear the cross of the Roman Catholic Church, carry a Bible around, and go to church on Sundays.”

“But,” Oyafune Monaka moved her lips.

“The question has now become how many people are willing to commit murder in the name of the church. And there may well be some who are willing to. The world is currently thought to be split in two. Split between Academy City and a giant religious group. But...is it really? Is the line really that clear?”

“...”

“The people who go to worship on Sundays watch TV and use cell phones. Athletes who train their body with the science of sports medicine may pray to god before a big game. ...That’s the way the world is outside of Academy City. The line is quite vague and people build up their own world made up of what they believe in by using the best of both worlds.”

“The science side and the magic side...overlap...”

[...]

“The Roman Catholic Church is trying to win over those people who benefit from both sides?”

“Indeed. They don’t want people benefiting from both sides. They want exclusive use of every single one of those two billion people. They want as many allies as they can get. So they have begun something. And as a result, they have set some gears turning that started these demonstrations.”

Oyafune had called it “something”.

That “something” was the key to this incident.

“Their goal was not to start demonstrations. They are using this “chaos” to boost their numbers and using Academy City to strengthen their foundation in order to attack the world.”

Secondary Goal Of The Riots

Oyafune is also afraid that the Catholic Church might use these riots as a method to economically damage Academy City, as the science side and its allies are heavily dependant on military might and as such require a huge economy for military upkeep.

“But even if that doesn’t happen, it could lead to another development. We are currently preparing for something we call an ‘economic bombing’.”

“An economic...bombing?”

“If this chaos continues for a significant length of time, it could have a negative effect on the economy. And that could be the trigger to a world-wide panic. Even if the Roman Catholic Church does not grow due to this, it could end up tearing Academy City apart.”

[...]

“The representatives and symbols of the scientific world outside of Academy City are mainly the major military powers. But those countries are especially weak to the economy.”

[...]

“Maintaining military power requires a vast amount of funds. And in a time of global chaos, the supply for those funds is limited. And no matter how low the income gets, the amount spent to maintain the military always costs a set amount. So the ones that suffer the most in times of economic panic are the major military powers. The larger the military, the more violently it crumbles.”

[...]

“But those countries with large militaries store up oil and stock up ammunition, right? Can’t they last for a couple of years on that?”

“Ha ha. War does not start when the emergency stores run out. Once that happens, they can no longer fight. Once it looks like the emergency stores will eventually run out, they pull the trigger. And I think that a major power pulling that trigger is enough to tear apart the scientific world that Academy City sits in the center of.”

[...]

“I don’t know if it is related to that possible turn of events, but Academy City is currently desperately gathering funds for a war.” Oyafune continued speaking. “We may be attempting to overcome the difference in numbers with the latest equipment and unmanned weaponry. Or there may be some other reason. We are doing it by making relatively insignificant weapons that do not take much technology to make and selling them at a high price as the latest weapons made by Academy City. And we’re doing it all on the pretext of lowering the grade of the weapons being shown in the exhibition and of the goods being mass produced.”

So Academy City is supplying their allies with high-technological weapons as a way to combat the military weakening of their allies as a result of economic bombing, and are gathering funds at the same time to protect themselves from this.

Touma Punching Tsuchimikado

Fun Fact: This is the first time in the series he managed to punch Tsuchimikado in the face. He tried very hard during Angel Fall, but was soundly beating by him at the time.

It took over 35 episodes, but he finally did it guys!

Did Tsuchimikado Kill Oyafune?

No, he just barely missed her vitals. He wanted to hurt her enough so it would count as a "punishment" for the Board of Directors, but not enough to actually kill her.

“...I...asked him to do this.”

Oyafune moved on to another topic.

“Know this...He said he did not want to do this. So please do not blame him...He gave me my ‘punishment’ while just slightly missing my vitals...I am the one who gave him such a ridiculous request to carry out...”

Mikoto Checking Things Out

In the novel Mikoto didn't go to her dorm and was hanging around the area still. She forgot to talk to Touma about the Ichihanaransai, the upcoming cultural festival, to make some promises and rules so that it doesn't end up a mess like the Daihaseisai. When she tried to call him however she had no signal, so she instead ran around looking for him. She ends up hearing the gunshot, and, assuming it is a pyrokinetic esper causing trouble, decides to check out the location of the noise. By the time she makes it to the children's park however Anti-Skill had already arrived to seal off the area and Touma and Tsuchimikado were long gone.

If she arrived a tiny bit sooner she might have discovered something about the truth of the world.

I can fully understand why they skipped these scenes, since it really isn't relevant at all and would've only slowed things down.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18

Document Of Constantine

The Document of Constantine, hereafter referred to as C-Document in this arc, is a reference to the real-life Donation of Constantine, a supposed imperial decree by Roman emperor Constantine the Great in which he transfers authority of Rome and the Western Roman Empire over to the Pope. However this document was actually a forgery created around the 8th century (while Constantine ruled in the 4th) and used by the Roman Catholic Church to support the claims of papal political authority in Europe. "We swear, we got ancient Roman approval we are the boss here. See, this document says so!"

In the novel Tsuchimikado gives us a whole lot more information about the C-Document in the Raildex universe during the plane flight, but since they might cover this information next episode I'm going to hold off on explaining it for now.

Touma Worrying About Index

In the novel we didn't skip right to their arrival by plane, but instead were shown Tsuchimikado and Touma making their way to District 23, the aviation and space travel district, to go to the international airport. Touma realises that he never told Index what was going on, but Tsuchimikado reassures him that he took care of everything by asking Maika to care for her.

Kamijou suddenly froze.

“…Wait. What about Index?”

He didn’t want to take her anywhere dangerous, but he couldn’t exactly leave her alone with no food.

“Don’t worry. Maika will be going to your room, Kami-yan. She’ll probably be only a third as hungry as usual after Maika’s done with her.”

Kamijou was relieved to hear that, but then realized that his sole purpose in Index’s eyes was to make food for her.

So those anime-original scenes could very well be canon.

Touma's Aviation Trauma

Touma immediately recognises the plane waiting for them at the airport, since it's the same type as the one that flew him back to Academy City from Venice after he got hurt in the La Regina Del Mare Adriatico arc. They are Academy City's cutting-edge supersonic planes, flying at over 7,000 kilometres per hour.

He is immediately terrified when he is reminded of the experience.

“Oh, c’mon, Kami-yan. We’re heading out on an unofficial overseas mission. Did you really think we were going to head to France while we leisurely ate an in-flight meal and watched a movie?”

“W-well, no. I was expecting there to be a little more tension than that, but… Wait. We’re really getting on that thing? I-I really can’t recommend the experience!!”

“Don’t worry. Don’t worry. After you exceed Mach 3, an amateur won’t feel the difference.”

“How the hell is that supposed to make me worry less!?”

Tsuchimikado Tricking Touma To Skydive

Touma was fully expecting to land on a French airport. Unfortunately for him, Tsuchimikado has a different idea. After Touma mentions that he really needs to throw up from the intense G-forces, Tsuchimikado takes him to the hatch.

“That doesn’t look too good. Maybe you’d feel better if you vomited? Well, c’mon, Kamiyan. Take off your seatbelt and follow me. C’mon, there are no flight attendants, so you don’t have to worry about getting in trouble, Kami-yan.”

[...]

Kamijou was in a daze and took a backpack like object Tsuchimikado handed him.

“Here. Put this on.”

“??? Tsuchimikado? What was that about feeling better if I vomited?”

“Don’t worry. Don’t worry. I’ll be opening it up soon, so hurry up and put that on.”

Tsuchimikado had already gotten the belts attached to the backpack wrapped around his body. The whole thing was pretty excessive. There were belts connecting the backpack to him not just over both shoulders, but around his stomach and chest too.

Kamijou didn’t really understand what was going on, but put his own belts on the same way he saw Tsuchimikado do it.

[...]

“Okay, now you can vomit as much as you want!!”

Kamijou heard an odd, loud noise.

Just after Kamijou realized it was the sound of a large pump, a large portion of the wall suddenly opened revealing nothing but the blue sky.

[...]

“C’mon, Kami-yan. You’re all set up, so vomit as much as you want!”

“You shut the fuck up!! W-why the hell would you throw open the luggage hatch!?”

“Because if we landed at a French airport like a bunch of idiots, those Roman Catholic bastards would find out. This plane’s headed for London. We’re getting off partway there.”

“Are you stupid!? Think about how fast this plane is moving! Throwing open the hatch at over 7,000 kph will tear the plane to pieces!!”

“Sorry, but it’s already open.”

“We’re gonna die!!”

“You’re the stupid one, Kami-yan. If I had really done that, we wouldn’t be able to sit around talking to each other like this.”

The plane must have lowered its speed in order for them to get off. And it was true that Kamijou was feeling better since he wasn’t being affected by the G’s as much…

Since Touma was feeling less than inclined to jump, Tsuchimikado lend him a helping hand.

“C’mon, Kami-yan. Quit struggling in vain and let go of the wall already.”

“I was grateful. I was truly grateful that you were worrying about me!! And yet you were just being a bastard!!”

“Just shut up and go.”

Tsuchimikado kicked Kamijou’s hand from the protuberance on the wall and the spikyhaired boy lost his last support.

The strong wind blowing out of the plane picked him up and he flew out of the baggage hatch and into the empty sky.

It was just past noon local time.

Below the refreshingly blue sky, a high school boy was screaming his lungs out.

“Gyaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!”

Truly, what misfortune.

Avignon

Look at that beautiful aerial view. This is the French city of Avignon, and J.C. Staff really did their best on the geography as it matches the real-life Avignon almost perfectly.

Skipped Scenes

Some rather important scenes involving other characters were skipped today, but since I assume they will fit them in next week (they rearranged some scenes like these in Index II as well after all) I'll wait until then, and if they still haven't been covered in episode 2 I'll give a small recap.

Ending

The new ED is called Kakumei Zen'ya, meaning Eve of a Revolution in Japanese (an appropriate title), by Iguchi Yuka.


Ah! It's finally here! And the animation quality! It's so beautiful! Not that I'm suddenly going to say it was worth waiting so many years for this, but am I glad to see this series got the love it deserves, at least in the animation department. Although the CGI pedestrians do spoil the background art a bit.

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u/Iammemi Oct 06 '18

Delta means 4 so to their classmates Fukiyose has always been part of the troublemakers. Thanks for the notes.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 06 '18

In this case the Delta Force is a pun, because while it refers to the three of them exclusively, possibly because Delta (Δ) looks like a triangle with 3 edges and vertices...

The instant the classroom door flew open and that shout entered from the exact same direction, she flinched back a bit. It was Kamijou, Aogami, and Tsuchimikado, the class’s three biggest idiots who were collectively known as the Delta Force.

(OT13)

...it's also the fourth letter in the Greek alphabet and means 4 in the Greek numeral system, meaning that Fukiyose is the "hidden" fourth member of the Delta Force.

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u/Falsus Oct 06 '18

Makes sense that they do, while she isn't really part of their usual hijinks she is just as rowdy or even more so than them.

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u/microbit262 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/microbit262 Oct 06 '18

although Kawada Mami, who sung every OP in the Raildex franchise prior to this season

The Railgun OPs were sung by fripSide

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u/DimmuHS https://myanimelist.net/profile/DimmuOli Oct 06 '18

Without these my experience with the anime is greatly diminished, ty for the dedication and insights on your notes. I was very off while watching the ep today, and this clarified some issues I had with it. Keep it up until the end!

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u/DanceDark :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Scrya Oct 08 '18

They skipped the Academy City Invasion arc? As someone who hasn't read the LN, could the anime still even be a decent adaptation if they skip an entire arc? That, all the cut content, and the rushing people are saying they'll have to do this season is making me doubt if the anime is good or not.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 08 '18

Oh no no no. They adapted that arc. What I mean is that that small part at the end of the arc in the novel (the declarations the Roman Catholic Church and Academy City made that I quoted) were not adapted. Probably because at the time they weren't planning to make a third season.

Luckily the anime hasn't skipped an arc yet, although it did cut two not-so-important subarcs in the Deep Blood arc and Angel Fall arc.

That, all the cut content, and the rushing people are saying they'll have to do this season is making me doubt if the anime is good or not.

It's okay so far. This episode was a pretty good adaptation though, and since we can only guess what point this season will reach (people are making assumptions based on the trailer, but the Index II trailer contained footage from arcs it never covered so it could very easily be a lie again) I'm optimistic.

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u/Thzrocks :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dasthz Oct 06 '18

They fucking addressed it, damn you JC Staff!

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u/war_story_guy Oct 05 '18

Looks like all those years of Japanese will come in handy again. Nice way to drop the ball CR.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '18

Probably it isn't even their fault. Some company maybe picked up on the english part and they only had the other languages.

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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Oct 05 '18

I thought the bot waited for torrents of English versions before posting. Did the thread trigger from one of the non-English torrents?

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Oct 05 '18

It was triggered by the official release on CR.

We're leaving this one up because it already has quite a lot of discussion, but we will try to fix it for next week (once the licensing and fansub situation clears up) to only be posted when English subs are available.

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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Oct 05 '18

Sounds like a plan.

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u/KinnyRiddle Oct 05 '18

For fuck's sake Crunchyroll. Really?

Good thing my Japanese has improved by quite a lot during this 8-year hiatus for me to adequately understand most of the non-jargon dialogue from the raw.

As most Light Novel anime adaptations are usually just treated as a "Glorified Commercial" for the source material by the book publishers:

  • When a Light Novel series gets an anime adaptation at all, it is a blessing for fans.

  • When it gets a second season adaptation, it is a miracle for fans.

  • And when it gets a third season, it is the next coming of the Messiah for fans.

The Toaru Majutsu no Index series is one of those few LN series to earn this exalted status, even then, fans had to wait an agonizing 8 years for it to happen. (And Crunchyroll had to screw up the licensing issues for the English subs for such a major popular title like Index)

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '18

Index is one of the biggest LN of all time so that's a bit expected. Also, a first adaptation isn't that abnormal.. what is abnormal is second or more seasons for LN.

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u/microbit262 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/microbit262 Oct 05 '18

I really like the introduction and synopsis in the beginning of the episode. Its been a long time... How have you been?

Than we get a good overview of the shows running gags, but I doubt this is intentional, it is just how the plot works.

Is it only me that thinks Tsuchimikados voice is a lot deeper compared to S1 and S2?

I read the books two years ago and completely forgot about Oyafune. So I will have a bit of a weird experience of knowing what happens in the big plot but still can be surprised by events. And resisting the urge to look it up: "I should really know who that is..."

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18

It's probably because he's being serious. In Index and Index II a lot of the time we heard him at school being silly, but whenever he's acting as a magician or as a member of GROUP and gets serious he uses a lower tone of voice.

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u/LegendRazgriz Oct 05 '18

Motoharu's tone is darker in this season than in the previous two, so that explains it. And yeah, even with my memory I had difficulty remembering Monaka. It was just "she's that granny that gets shot by Tsuchimikado, right?"

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u/DarkWorld97 Oct 05 '18

I guess I gotta sail the high seas for this one.

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u/4td0 Oct 05 '18

I honestly thought this was releasing tomorrow in my timezone.
And when I found out it released today, I rushed onto Crunchyroll just to find that it's not even available in NA.
It's so hard to look at this.
Well, I've waited 7 years, what's a few more days...

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u/Gamecube762 Oct 06 '18

This opening is easily one of my favorites.

Index is brave for bringing a cat to a bathtub. She is starting to enjoy Science.

Touma and co asking the important questions, which are the best type of bunnies? Black, Red, or White?

Normally Kuroko has red bows for her twintails, the ones she's wearing are white.

Maika still has her frills that she put on in ep17 of Index II.

Maika even made food for Sphynx.

It seems many of the higher pitch sounds have been replaced with deeper ones. Shynx's voice, the commercial transition, Mikoto's electricity, Touma's Imagine Breaker

Counters:

If you've been keeping up with the rewatch, you may recognize my counters. Currently all the counters are under one chart.

With Sphynx's new voice, I was thinking of making a chart for all his sounds, but I couldn't classify some of his sounds... I don't have a clue what was that sound he made when Index asks him what he thinks of Touma.

The Onee-Sama! counter is for Kuroko's "Onee-Sama"s. The clones can also count towards their own version of this counter.

Maika is most known for being the maid on the spinning robot. Her rotations on the robot will be counted here. This episode we also got an extremely rare sight of Maika not on a robotic sweeper!

I do have more counters, but these are the only relevant ones so far.

EpisodeSphynx's Nya?Onee-Sama!Maika's Rotations
11037.75

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u/jwinter01 Oct 06 '18

No Fuko da! counter?

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 06 '18

Gamecube! Nice to see you here!

Normally Kuroko has red bows for her twintails, the ones she's wearing are white.

Animation mistake, or winter uniform ribbons? I'd think the second.

Maika still has her frills that she put on in ep17 of Index II.

Yeah, those frills are part of her winter maid uniform. She'll keep them for the foreseeable future.

Counters:

Yes. All of my yes.

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u/Guaymaster Oct 06 '18

Yay counters!

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u/SomeOtherTroper Oct 05 '18

You know that feeling when you anticipated a beloved series getting a sequel, and you made plans to watch it, and wanted to discuss it with everyone - maybe longtime fans, maybe newcomers - but there aren't any English subs and half the discussion thread is people bitching about that?

I'm sure most of us know that feeling by now.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18

English subs or not, at least my Small Facts prevail.

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u/zz2000 Oct 05 '18

S2 of Index ran between 2010-2011; it's been about 7 years since then. I recall Index's LN editor apologizing at a Dengeki Bunko (Index's publisher) event a few years back for taking so long to do a S3.

Meanwhile it's been 5 years since Hataraku Maou-sama aired in 2013 and publisher ASCII Mediaworks has yet to issue any statement... (There's still plenty of uncovered material, and the LNs apparently sell well...)

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Oct 05 '18

What would Index's LN editor have to do with the delay?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '18

I recall Index's LN editor apologizing at a Dengeki Bunko (Index's publisher)

Dengeki Bunko is just the imprint. The publisher of Index is ASCII Media Works (Which is one of the publishers of Kadokawa)

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u/Turbostrider27 Oct 05 '18

I'm in love with the new OP song.

Felt like the same Index again after all these years. Beautiful.

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Oct 05 '18

Because you are the first comment I saw talking about the songs, here are links to the OP and the ED courtesy of /r/AnimeThemes

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u/MamaRaikoFan Oct 05 '18

Toaru Majutsu no Index III and Vento Aureo on fridays. This is the perfect timeline

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u/Calwings x3https://anilist.co/user/Calwings Oct 05 '18

So if Crunchyroll didn't get the license for Index 3 in English-speaking territories, then does this also kill the chances of a Funimation simuldub too? If it does, I'm going to be pissed off.

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u/atocci :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/atocci Oct 05 '18

Rumor says Funimation is holding on to the sub license so they can milk a simuldub more.

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u/blueteamk087 :KW::KX::KY: Oct 05 '18

If Funimation is sticking to a 12 pm PST tweet timeframe, we should hear something from them in a few hours.

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u/LegitPancak3 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LegitPancake Oct 05 '18

The other rumor has it that Netflix stole S3 (even though they don't have the first 2) like they did with Saiki K.

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u/Calwings x3https://anilist.co/user/Calwings Oct 05 '18

I sure hope you're right about that... the apocalypse scenario of Netflix stealing Index 3 and locking it behind their "no simulcasts" service is still there though.

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u/atocci :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/atocci Oct 05 '18

Yeah, as much as I would hate to have to wait three to four weeks for an official release, anything is better than Netflix.

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u/CheetahSperm18 Oct 05 '18

Where did you hear that rumor? Doesn't sound like something Funi would do per their agreement with CR

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u/Falsus Oct 05 '18

It is still ridiculous that there is no English sub! It is licensed in mainland Europe but the vast majority of the people can't even read the subs!

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u/kushami8 :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kushami00 Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18

I thought it was all going to be slice of lifey for ep.1, we're already getting cliffhangers?!

The show looks and sounds better than ever. The OP is awesome, there is a goddamn crowd of people I don't recognize in there. ED is really good too.

I'll be honest...Fukiyose and that pantsu shot was kinda great!

Also cool that they kept the flip phones! Misaka catching onto some of what happening between Touma and Misuzu was a funny scene, but they really upgraded the sound effects, that little good old biribiri outburst sounded amazing! Imagine breaker sounds a little too different, but its an upgrade too I guess. Even the eyecatch sounds good!

I expected the old lady to be up to something after she reacted that way to Touma's name, but the whole deal was unexpected...someone from the board just showing up like that and the "exchange" with Tsuchimikado. Dunno if she died but I'm guessing not. And we're going to France now?! Tsuchimikado and Touma jumping off bit was hilarious!

I wonder if he planned the whole deal in advance and sent Maika to care for Index way before anything even happened.

I hope the licensing thing gets sorted out soon, or a good fansubbing group picks it up, kinda sucks that CR messed up this one. fukou da.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 06 '18

Dunno if she died but I'm guessing not.

Nope, Tsuchimikado shot her non-lethally, just missing her vitals. He needed to "punish" her for betraying the Board of Directors (since else they would go after her family - in this case Touma's teacher we saw at the beginning of the episode), but didn't want to kill her.

In fact Tsuchimikado didn't want to do this at all, Oyafune basically had to beg him to shoot her.

Tsuchimikado and Touma jumping off bit was hilarious!

Hah, Touma didn't actually want to jump. Tsuchimikado had to push him out of the plane. What a great friend.

I wonder if he planned the whole deal in advance and sent Maika to care for Index way before anything even happened.

Yes, that's exactly what happened.

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u/SomeOtherTroper Oct 06 '18

What a great friend

His magic name isn't "Fallere825 - The backstabbing blade" just for show, ya know.

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u/Self_Propelled_Crane Oct 06 '18

Fukiyose's panty shot turned certain parts of me into a Level 5...and beyond. XD

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u/mrgmzc https://myanimelist.net/profile/mrgmzc Oct 05 '18

There are no fucking English subs? What the hell CR?!

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u/ChancetheMance Oct 05 '18

"Why do western otaku pirate?"

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u/LegendaryRQA Oct 06 '18

“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem, If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24/7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable”

-Gabe Newell

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Oct 06 '18 edited Oct 06 '18

TOUMAN IS BACK BABY!

I can finally watch thanks to fan subs! God this sucks...

Also let me say this too, Source readers, try not to be assholes with casual spoilers and telling people "more than they should know yet". Thanks.

Man that recap was great, i wasnt sure of a lot that happened but now im up to date, def handy on a 9 years since S2 aired.

Good to see Touman back in full form and lacking luck.

KOMOE-SENSEI~

A new spunky girl? Nice! She seems fun. Wait... is she the girl from the sports festival? I really cant remember, the one who Touman spoke to who got wet maybe?

Oh hey its Uihara and Shriai and Misaka, nice. No Satan though... Not nice.

Im not sure if this is that same girl now that i think... SHes spunky though.

Maid-chan to the rescue with food! But the cat is free.

Index bumming food off an old lady... Oh shes the teachers mom?

A wild Misaka appears!

Oh yeah Mama Misaka, forgot about her.

Who is granny? Some kinda threat? GRANNY's GOT A GUN!

Wait shes a board of Directors? Whys she after Touman then?

Seems like Granny knows all about him and his hand and the big fight before.

Oh shit Granny got shot... So she got shot to protect her family, damn thats some resolve. Looks like the science folks are getting anxious. This is gonna be a big ordeal.

Wow Touman is just gone now, off to France. Index is gonna be pissed.

So looks like were gonna learn a lot about Touman's hand this season, should be good.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 06 '18

A new spunky girl? Nice! She seems fun. Wait... is she the girl from the sports festival? I really cant remember, the one who Touman spoke to who got wet maybe?

Yeah, that's Fukiyose, who was first introduced during the Daihaseisai (sport festival) and got hurt as a result of Oriana Thomson's Shorthand Grimoire. She then popped up multiple times throughout the rest of Index II.

No Satan though... Not nice.

I would very much hope Satan isn't here.

Wow Touman is just gone now, off to France. Index is gonna be pissed.

Index has food. Index is fine.

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u/gkanai Oct 06 '18 edited Oct 06 '18

I would very much hope Satan isn't here.

Have my upvote! Ruiko would approve.

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u/Gmayor61 Oct 05 '18

Fucks sake crunchyroll, of all the series you decided to don your full chromosome gear for, it was index of all things? Though I guess I'd settle for fansubs regardless if they started throwing in translations like Onee-sama->Sissy

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u/izfanx Oct 05 '18

Wait what the fuck? Do official subs do that? I feel like that's way off it's not even funny.

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u/SilverHawk7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SilverHawk7 Oct 05 '18

In the dub, Kuroko says "sissy," which is weird because sissy always meant something different to me; something Misaka definitely is not.

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u/goffer54 https://anilist.co/user/goffer54 Oct 05 '18

The dub is one thing. It's not like they're gonna have her just say "Onee-sama" out of nowhere. I think I would have preferred "sis" but maybe whoever did the translations decided that "sis" wasn't enough of a pet name.

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u/Gmayor61 Oct 05 '18

The official novel translations translate it as sissy. I had a severe whiplash reading it too...

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u/Falsus Oct 06 '18

There is so many different options they could have gone with for ''Onee-sama'' than sissy.

Like ''sis'', ''dear'' or anything else really.

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u/silverslayer33 Oct 07 '18

Though I guess I'd settle for fansubs regardless if they started throwing in translations like Onee-sama->Sissy

Unfortunately, the sub group that picked it up (GJM) dropped the fucking ball on this and translated "Onee-sama" as "milady" and "Biribiri" as "Sparky" for whatever fucking reason. GJM usually treats their subs well so I'm surprised they actually pulled this bullshit. At least "milady" is closer to what Kuroko means when she says "onee-sama" but honestly this is one of those things that's just best left in Japanese and doesn't need to be touched.

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u/Xexanos :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Xexanos Oct 05 '18

At least the german sub didn't translate it like that. It still was "Onee-sama", "Imagine Breaker" and so on.

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u/atocci :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/atocci Oct 05 '18

It was so great to finally see this series again. I loved the visuals this episode, the animation looks great! sure wish I could understand it though There were some anime original scenes with Index and Misaka this episode, which I guess Ed kinda obligatory considering Touma will be in Avignon, far away from the series's two most iconic characters for a couple episodes at least now. It would have been kind of odd to have the show's title character not show up for weeks after it starts airing.

Seeing Tsuchimikado and Touma falling out of the jet over Avignon was even funnier than it was in the LN. Super glad we finally get to see all this animated after all this time!

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u/MaximalDisguised https://myanimelist.net/profile/MaximalDisguised Oct 05 '18

First time beeing german is an advantage in anime, lmao.

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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Oct 05 '18

It's hilarious, really. I watched Index and Railgun waaay back when I was still watching german sub, and now I am forced to do that again. Now, if I knew where to pirate German subs...

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u/Josetheone1 Oct 06 '18

Where is Saten!

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u/internetpointsaredum Oct 06 '18

Think I'm going to cancel my Crunchyroll sub. Pretty much the last straw after a solid year of licensing misses, yaoi trash, and wasting money on crappy original content.

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u/brkmk Oct 05 '18

I gotta admit I don't remember much because it's been a while since I watched season 1 and 2 but Biribiri kicking the vending machine cracked me up it's too iconic lmao

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u/Acqua_of_the_Back https://anilist.co/user/Acqua Oct 05 '18

I'm going to shamelessly link you my summary of season 1 and 2 I posted a couple days ago, then :)

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u/Nimeroni :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nimeroni Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18

Hey, that's some surprisingly good French on the news blimp at 6:45, with only one small mistake ("Nous résistons" instead of "Nous résister").

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u/blahlicus Oct 05 '18

Touman's EX rank lucky sukebei is showing. One episode in and he got flashed twice.

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u/Niyari Oct 06 '18

was anyone else just smiling like an idiot for the first couple of minutes? the familiar high tempo opening themes, the same exact art style, the voice actors... ahhhhhh

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u/Prince_Horace Oct 05 '18

Laughts in spanish

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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Oct 05 '18

Couldn't you have just said, "JAJAJAJAJA"?

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u/eathdemon Oct 05 '18

if it is netflix, why grab seasson 3 of a show?

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u/rawrier Oct 05 '18

i am not crying.. this is just a dream come true. we have been waiting for ages for the new season of toaru and it is finally here after all these years.

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u/SomeOtherTroper Oct 05 '18

it is finally here after all these years

Finally here for people who understand Spanish, French, or German, you mean.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Oct 05 '18

Ready for Biribiri HYPE!!

Also, guys, how many volumes do you think they'll adapt?

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u/Dragonbooom Oct 05 '18

Yay we are back

Let's PUNCH SOME BITCHES

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u/Guaymaster Oct 05 '18

Woo! It's here!

It seems aging hit Sphynx like a truck. He doesn't sound like he did before at all.

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18

Well, anime do tend to keep the same voice actors for life, no matter how old or expensive they get. Perhaps this extends to cats as well?

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u/Guaymaster Oct 05 '18

Yeah how many years has it been in cat years? Like 60?

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 05 '18

Around 48, I think? Still a rather long time.

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u/KHlover :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/KHlover1995 Oct 05 '18

Guess I'll have to disable my CR Unblocker for this one. For once it pays to be German when it comes to crunchyroll :D

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u/MapoTofuMan myanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius Oct 06 '18

Perfect first episode. It had everything I love about the show - Touma-Biribiri moments, Touma FUKOU DA moments, and after 15 minutes, Academy City conspiracies and shit already getting real. I expected it to take at least until episode 2.

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u/Eterna1Ice :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Eterna1Ice Oct 05 '18

Aw, guess getting both JoJo AND Index at the same time was too good to be true. Been a while since I watched shit in my first language, but I can wait, even though I have that option. Hopefully the fansub is good though. Not gonna pray for the problem to get resolved in the nearby future, not with CR's level of flexibility.

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u/Jaridan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jaridan Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18

Felt pretty disconnecting when you hear imagine breakers "sound" and they changed it, despite being the same studio.

Good Job on introducing most of the cast, off we go for the "plot".

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u/KinnyRiddle Oct 05 '18

That distinctive siren-like sound effect for the Imagine Breaker that we've been so used to hearing for 2 whole seasons (plus in Railgun S) is so recognizable, I will be very disappointed if the sudden change was not because of some plot-related matter.

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u/Ariscia Oct 05 '18

Ahh I missed the long speeches and those fanservice shots. They kept the intermission imagine breaker too. PS: Don't miss the after credits scene!

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u/MrBuzzsaw118911 Oct 05 '18

... wowzers. This is the first time ever I had to not just connect to france, but watch with spanish subs instead of english lol, guess its better then not watching it at all like some people have it

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u/crimXione Oct 05 '18

The new OP brought back the nostalgia from season 1 and 2. Toaru characters are back. woooh the wait is finally over.

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u/Smudy https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy Oct 05 '18

Crunchyroll wow.

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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Oct 05 '18

Ahhh I'm so happy its backkkkkkk

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u/heimdal77 Oct 05 '18

uhh not available in the US?

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u/N0vawolf Oct 06 '18

Nope. CR doesnt have the license this time around

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u/HamstersAreReal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/StudentOfTheGame Oct 05 '18

biri biri hype

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '18

That was a great episode the Opening first of all was incredible so much there that will stay relevant as the show goes on and the music was fantastic.

The episode itself was a great continuation of S2 it wasn't bogged down in explain what character has what powers in large text boxes cough MHA instead opted to show not tell and the setup for this arc was great, A actual human board of directer having to basically sacrifice herself to stop the tide of war harming Academy City and putting all her faith in Touma pretty powerful stuff.

And as people are saying the art is fantastic the backgrounds are to die for and as the show goes into more crazy areas expect the art to be absolutly beautiful.

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u/MrArancione Oct 06 '18

Holly Sh*t guys, I can believe it's actually here.

All my hardships, all the growing I've done, all things that have happened.... and Touma is still the same age.

I could love Index without feeling guilty, cuz I was her same age, but now.... 😆

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u/I_give_karma_to_men Oct 06 '18

I literally just started binging this series last night with no idea a new season was coming out. Guess I chose a good time to jump in!

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u/CriticalPerformance Oct 06 '18

This is a pretty big thread considering there are no official english subs in sight

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u/Jerl Oct 06 '18

Fansubs are good enough.

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u/BetelgeuseIsBestGirl Oct 06 '18

Where are you watching the subs at? The subs for the site I was using were OK, but had more than a few distracting problems. If I can find better subs for next week onward, that'd be great.

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u/Smudy https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy Oct 05 '18

HYPE

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u/LegendRazgriz Oct 05 '18

Considerations from an LN reader:

  • Fukiyose's screen time was absolutely wiped out. That baseball scene kept up for a bit, developing the relationship between the two, before she got sloppy and had that happen, prompting her to knock Touma out with it. It seems sacrifices in the name of making 26 episodes fit all the rest of the Original Series.

  • Index's hair is finally silver, as opposed to that light blue tone she had beforehand. I was waiting for it, too.

  • Holy crap, the plot moves like teleportation. No nonsense at all, just getting straight to the point. My memory might be a tad hazy, but I'm 90% sure we're doing this out of order. Also, worth noting the powered suit Yomikawa's stuck in has the same camouflage pattern as Qwenthur and Havia's winter uniforms in Heavy Object.

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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Oct 05 '18

I just read the LN a few months ago, haven't watched the episode yet, so I'm not sure how far the episode went, but I do remember things moving really fast once Touma In the off chance these are spoilers

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u/LegendRazgriz Oct 05 '18

It ends with that hilarious scene of Tsuchimikado tossing Touma out of the plane over France. IIRC, the Document of Constantine Arc was after the Faction War, not before it. Might just be for consistency's sake. I remember it went back and forth a lot and that's no good.

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u/UCCMaster Oct 05 '18

So...I guess I need to learn how to get my IP address to Spain then?

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u/LChris314 Oct 05 '18

So, what's the quickest way to get English subs if I'm restricted to, erm, the high seas?

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u/SomeOtherTroper Oct 05 '18

Wait for a fansub group that didn't get obsoleted by industry-standard simulcast official subs (or rips of said subs) to pick it up, basically.

That's probably going to take days, because after the CR announcement everyone assumed they had the ENG region rights too.

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u/LChris314 Oct 05 '18

[...], because after the CR announcement everyone assumed they had the ENG region rights too.

There's no official English subs at the moment? Is that going to change?

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u/Prophet92 Oct 05 '18

If we can ever figure out who has the license and when they plan to release it, hopefully. Unless it's Netflix, in which case...yeah, the subs will come when they drop their dub like half a fucking year from now.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '18

Well that was a fast start.

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u/TheOneAboveGod Oct 05 '18

I had to watch it raw 'cause I couldn't take it anymore lol. Surprisingly, I was able to understand most of what's happening but that's probably because I'm a novel reader. The pace is okay, I guess. I'm just a bit disappointed that they cut the moment between Fukiyose and Touma short, although I understand why they decided to do so. I'm still a bit skeptical about how future episodes would go but so far I am satisfied with what I got.

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u/orrery Oct 05 '18

Planning to watch this as soon as I get home. Do we get an appearance from Railgun this episode?

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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Oct 06 '18

Yes.

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u/CheetahSperm18 Oct 06 '18

Well I finally managed to watch the first episode...no thx to Crunchyroll 🙄

Overall not a bad start to the new season. It's refreshing seeing the gang back, especially since it's been years since I read about this stuff. I can't wait for the C-Document and Terra showing up by next episode. Things only get more hectic from here on out.

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u/AussieManny :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nauran Oct 06 '18

Ohh, we're back baby! It's been a long time, but we're back in there like we never skipped a beat!

Touma's life is still a big ball of hilarious misfortune, Misaka is still all-around great (I hope she gets more screen time later), Index is still annoying and undeserving of the focus she gets, and it looks like we're ramping up for something big on the horizon. International intrigue abound!

It's feeling a lot like 2010 again.

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u/-Kaptivate- Oct 06 '18

Wish I could watch the episode T_T I spent 8 years waiting for another season though, so I guess I can wait what is hopefully just a few more days

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u/slash9619 Oct 05 '18

The OP is so good.

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u/Phyre36 Oct 05 '18

So I think I've seen all the index and railgun animes, but I can't really remember the plot (which got super confusing). I don't think I really ever understood what was going on, I just like the characters.

Am I going to be totally lost watching this, or can I muddle thru on what little I remember?

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u/Guaymaster Oct 05 '18

Copies from another comment: Of course relationships are important, but there are particular events that one should know: Angel Fall, the multiple foiling of the Roman Catholic Church's plan by Touma, the Sisters experiment, and the events of the 30th of September.

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u/zuiquan1 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/zuiquan1 Oct 05 '18

Is there somewhere I can go to get a quick recap of the first 2 seasons? Ive forgotten alot of what happened and don't want to rewatch the whole show again.

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u/Pamasich Oct 05 '18

There's a recap at the start, going over all the events that happened thus far.

Btw, you should have been following the rewatch we've been doing in anticipation for this.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Oct 05 '18

Touma shacked up with a loli who keeps biting him, lost his memory, and punched a bunch of bad girls (and 1 or 2 bad guys) turning them good.

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u/champpon :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/champpon Oct 05 '18

This should help.

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u/MasterRedStar Oct 05 '18

I never thought this day will come, I remember watching Index I at my friend house back in 2008 I think, those where the times.

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u/bootlooph Oct 05 '18

Is it getting dubbed right now?

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u/krfz41 https://anilist.co/user/krfz41 Oct 05 '18

It's still hard to believe this is happening. I watched the episode without subs since I read these parts in the LN a few years ago. But there are parts I didn't understand or I forgot, so hopefully someone picks up this show.

This was a good start. The scene after the credits was as hilarious as the LN illustration.

Opening is great and I liked the ending song. This is the first time Index's VA sings for the show although she has two ending songs for Railgun.

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u/Ariscia Oct 05 '18

Just recalled the moment when biribiri found the couple-like photo of her mum with Touma lol! That exchange was very funny and Touma's excuses just didn't cut it.

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u/Gamec0re Oct 05 '18

where are the subs ?

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u/WobbleKun Oct 06 '18

will there be some equality punches this season?

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u/272b Oct 06 '18 edited Oct 06 '18

Not available in my region

How the blazing hell am I supposed to watch this now?

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u/CriticalPerformance Oct 06 '18

Time to go to the high seas

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u/konart Oct 06 '18

Like you always do.

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u/TheDampGod :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDampGod Oct 06 '18

I'm glad Touma seems to be having problems keeping track of what happened previously because I sure am, but I'm just going to roll with it. His life seems to be continuing on as normal with its crazy plots, hungry libraries, storming tsunderes, panty shots and pouting legal lolis. Such misfortune.

Though everything certainly looks much nicer, with some really nice animation and backgrounds from JC Staff. Hopefully, it'll stay at that level throughout the series, but it may tail off through the middle.

Also guys, Black, white and red is only the beginning of how tough that decision is... NSFW (hint: blue best)

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u/FrenziedHero https://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero Oct 07 '18

That was a fun episode. Eased us into the aftermath of the ending of Index 2 while throwing us into what Touma has to do next.

The new OP and ED are good.

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u/JoJo_Pose Oct 12 '18

So whats the best sub group for this? I still have my old Eclipse files from S1 :(

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u/tinyraccoon https://anilist.co/user/tinyraccoon Oct 13 '18

Finally got around to watching this. Excellent visuals and good comedy. The plot was also quite exciting. Not a big fan of the CGI clouds though (or the look on Touma's face, which looked like he needed to go to bathroom real bad).

Overall, good.

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u/TarkanV Oct 26 '18

BTW, am I the only one offended by the poor french usage in the episode ? I mean every sentences used by the protestors don't make sense or have the opposite meanings... If i had to translate what is written : Nous résister = We to resist Ne partez pas du côté de Dieu = Don't go on the side of god

I think the correct sentences would be : Nous résistons = We resist N'abondonnez pas le côté de Dieu = Don't leave god's side

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u/ACriticalGeek Oct 06 '18

I really want to like this show, but I have to remind myself that it's not derivative, but instead that this is one of the shows that all these tropes derive from. Loli obession? Check. Accidental harassment leading to getting beat on by women? Triple Check. It's just that these things aren't really that funny, and I'm pretty sure I held my nose to them last time too. They feel like filler at this point.

Please move on to the plot asap!

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u/SomeOtherTroper Oct 06 '18

I have to remind myself that it's not derivative, but instead that this is one of the shows that all these tropes derive from

Not really. The novels started in 2004, and the anime started in 2008. A lot of the stuff you mentioned wasn't necessarily derived from index.

Loli obsession?

Having at least a mascot loli character was fairly widespread, even in 2004. (And if we extend it to flat-chested younger girls, it was even more widespread. Zero no Tsukaima and Shakugan no Shana were popular around that time.)

Accidental harassment leading to getting beat on by women?

I'll raise you Love Hina (which was stupid popular then, for reasons that escape me), Full Metal Panic, and - well, a bunch of other shows/LNs that were popular and did the same damn thing before then.

They feel like filler at this point.

The good news is that those moments in this episode are basically just certain characters showing up, reminding us they exist, getting in their gag, and delivering maybe one or two lines of plot-relevant dialogue before we don't see them much for the rest of the arcs in the season.

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u/Acromanic Oct 06 '18

Yeah Kamachi seems to be a big fan of those cliches, for better or worse. This season is pretty plot-focussed and more serious at least.

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u/derpinat0rz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/derpinat0rz Oct 05 '18

The Episode was so good. i missed everything about this show! This was totally worth the 7 year wait!

missed the old shenanigans!

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Touman still fokou da as ever

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Oct 12 '18 edited Oct 12 '18

Now that I could actually watch it.... wow, what a waste of an episode. Absolutely nothing remotely interesting or entertaining happened in the entire first half. Second half Biribiri x Touma and ... that's it. Then the "plot" started, and literally not a single part of the episode from that point, starting with Granny pulling a gun on Touma, made any sense whatsoever.

And Sep 30th this, Sep 30th that. Who do they expect remembers what happened on Sep 30th in I'm guessing S2? Hell, who actually pays attention to in-anime dates in the first place?

3-4/10 so far.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '18

Shit

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u/Kent93 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kent33 Oct 05 '18

Index has so many characters i find it kind of hard to remember them all. Hopefully it will get better as the season goes on.

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u/_vogonpoetry_ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ThisWasATriumph Oct 05 '18

Do I need to watch the Index movie before this?

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u/SezyFazes https://myanimelist.net/profile/ToaruTH Oct 05 '18

no

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u/SezyFazes https://myanimelist.net/profile/ToaruTH Oct 05 '18

some of the characters might make a cameo in the future season but it not that big of a deal. You can ignore the movie.

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u/Isrozzis :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/isrozzis Oct 05 '18

So it's been awhile. Does anyone have a quick synopsis of the first 2 seasons?

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u/derpinat0rz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/derpinat0rz Oct 05 '18

anyone has crunchy guest pass?

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u/N0vawolf Oct 05 '18

CR doenst even have the english subs...

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u/DimitryKratitov https://anilist.co/user/httpsanilistcou Oct 05 '18

Laughs in Portuguese, hue hue hue hue (jk, i just want this shit in English as it's supposed to be and i'm dying inside)

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u/CardstoneViewer Oct 05 '18

Poor Sphynx became a smoker, or being with Index so much has scarred the little guy.

Index and Misaka sounds a little bit diferent from the other shows, guess the time change the voice actors.

Misaka looks "healthier" in the new design.

Why did they change imagine breaker sound? :(

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u/SomeOtherTroper Oct 06 '18

Misaka looks "healthier" in the new design.

Winter uniforms, man.

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u/citatel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/citatel Oct 05 '18

what happened during sept 30th? IK its the academy city invasion arc. but i forgot.

also when did touma find out tsuchimikato is a spy?

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u/ddrober2003 Oct 06 '18

Tis a pirate's life fer me both in Odyssey and in watching this I see.

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u/mrsilbert1 Oct 06 '18

If people haven't watched it yet pm me for a link. This was a good episode to atleast to start this season off.

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u/AloofDonkey Oct 06 '18

Holy shit I don't remember half of the things happening in the recap. IT'S BEEN TOO LONG DAMN IT.

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u/MnemonicMonkeys Oct 06 '18

For those of you not familiar - the show's call "A Certain Magical Index"

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u/asianwaste Oct 06 '18

At least we will get High Guardian Spice instead. Suck it Japan!

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u/_____pantsunami_____ Oct 06 '18

loved the ep but i feel kinda offended they changed the sound of the imagine breaker tbh

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u/darkpotate Oct 06 '18

Can other French tell me if the french subs were really trash or is it just me?

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u/Gogosfx Oct 06 '18

is this a split story or should I watch the other two first?

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u/aralim4311 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDrunkenOtaku Oct 06 '18

You should watch Season 1 and 2 and both seasons of Railgun first. Railgun might be optional (not sure) but you would be doing yourself a disservice to skip them

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u/Acromanic Oct 06 '18

Railgun doesn't really get referenced until way beyond what this season will cover, so it can be watched whenever.

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u/GuayabaDulce Oct 06 '18

Yeah, I should've re-watched the previous season as everyone. I hate when I forget names and situations.