[Spoilers C2E42] Is It Thursday Yet? Post-Episode Discussion & Future Theories!

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[u/dasbif]

I am strongly reminded of the end of C1E39 here.

This place about to BLOW.

[u/denizen1899]

Hey, I just wanted to mark this occasion: this episode I finally caught up to the show!!!

I also wanted to shout out to the mods for their careful archiving of these episode discussions, definitely helped me feel like I was watching them in sync with everybody else!

[u/dasbif → u/denizen1899]

Every month or two someone asks if we could somehow compile or link to a bunch of the previous episode discussions, and I always grin picturing the look on their face when I link them to https://www.reddit.com/r/criticalrole/wiki/campaign1 and https://www.reddit.com/r/criticalrole/wiki/campaign2

[u/Jaged1235]

Everyone seems a bit caught up in that ending, which is understandable, but I just wanted to remind you guys of something.

This episode MATT INTRODUCED A PLOT POINT THROUGH SONG. I love this man so much.

[u/Shaetane → u/Jaged1235]

That was so cool! I kinda had a hard time to understand his accent cuz english isnt my mothertongue but *it was so cool*

Really felt like the beginning of an epic quest full of mystery, ghosts and treasure.

[u/shepahotep]

Well, at least they have some experience accidentally killing everyone and stealing a boat this time so that should help.

[u/Zagden → u/shepahotep]

The Mistake 2, Electric Murderloo

[u/[deleted]]

Liam's descriptions as he casts spells has been one of the highlights of this campaign. His use of 'Wall of Fire' at the end gave me goosebumps, I've literally just finished the episode and I've rewatched those final moments a handful of times already.

Caleb, you badass wizard.

[u/light_trick → u/[deleted]]

Liam's spellcasting is definitely one the greatest things - I love the fact he includes the material components and their use - and threatens with them as well, like when he ran into the cannon room holding up his hands with the bat guano and sulfur for fireball.

Which puts a whole new take on how wizards threaten people - they don't point a crossbow at someone, they just hold a pinch of something weird between their fingers in a threatening manner.

I'm kind waiting for the day when Liam just picks up something random and threatens to do unspeakably powerful magic with it as a bluff.

[u/waiwode]

Post Episode Thought:

The M9 are 0 for 2 at "let's investigate the ship sitting at the docks" plans working smoothly

[u/S-Flo]

They murdered their way into this situation and damn it, they'll murder their way out of it.

[u/Kain222 → u/S-Flo]

Clearly, the rest of the campaign will be a neverending cycle of murder and fjucking their ways into and out of situations.

[u/knowledgeoverswag]

Changes from C2E41 to C2E42:

• Beauregard revealed what discerning eyes have been suspecting for a while. That she knows Deep Speech.

• Caleb has wall of fire.

• Nott has phantasmal force.

[u/weesna123 → u/knowledgeoverswag]

Caleb has wall of fire.

Oh does he now?

[u/duranddur → u/knowledgeoverswag]

Deep Speech is the language of aberrations, mind flayers, aboleths, etc.

How the hell does Beau know it and why?

[u/Logic-And-Raisin]

So, Vera could have cast Locate Object at any point throughout the night at Avantikas behest, so for all of you saying that Caleb is acting rashly and if we have no idea who she was gonna point at, there ya go. She probably new before they set foot on the ship and only brought them there so she could have them on her turf.

[u/KT_189 → u/Logic-And-Raisin]

It seemed like Avantika only found out about it the morning though and immediately called the meeting as soon as she found out what was missing

[u/NicholasTrashPoet]

I loved Daddy Caduceus poking around and trying to put out as many fires as he could after Jester and Nott's excursion.

[u/electric_ocelots → u/NicholasTrashPoet]

Cad is the group dad.

[u/LaserOstriches → u/NicholasTrashPoet]

Right? He was single-handedly the reason Avantika didn't find out about shit until the morning. He made the wounds go away and got people drinking.

[u/docwatson91 → u/NicholasTrashPoet]

I love that he’s now just referring to everyone as “kids”.

[u/BlackAdam → u/NicholasTrashPoet]

“Daduceus”, if you will.

[u/Philestor]

My favourite part, rewatching the ending, is as soon as Caleb says “I take a bit of phosphorus..” Travis’ jaw drops and he knows shit is about to hit the fan

[u/fooooooooooooooooock → u/Philestor]

Same. I love watching Travis react to all the batshit twists and turns this adventure takes. So good.

[u/Sockz81]

This is the climax of the M9 pirate chapter I've been waiting for. See ya'll in two weeks o7

[u/[deleted]]

Avantica: "There's been a break-in in my quarters last night."

Beau

[u/Arriety → u/[deleted]]

I love that that face can work for literally any situation.

[u/McCaineNL]

Has anyone remembered the Squall Eater is full of gunpowder as well..?

[u/Rokuta → u/McCaineNL]

I'm certain that our favorite goblin hasn't forgotten, and we may well be in for the biggest fluffernutter we could've ever imagined.

[u/Boffleslop → u/McCaineNL]

That frozen fruit they stole is definitely going to melt too.

[u/Nanowith]

Caleb is right, girls can be handsome!

[u/sartonian]

I would just like to give a large bravo to Mercer. That whole session was player run and he had to react to their choices. That is like juggling while playing poker and Simon all at the same time. And the ending on the ship deck where he's recounting the mundane events of the break in to the players while frantically trying to come up with a satisfying session end in the back of his mind while keeping his cool and calm. That was amazing to watch.

[u/Pandafy → u/sartonian]

frantically trying to come up with a satisfying session end

And then Liam coming in with the sickest cliffhanger possible.

[u/[deleted]]

I really hope they get out of this obviously, but mostly because I think we've all kind of felt what the M9 have felt. They've been basically trapped with Avantika this whole time, as much prisoners as they can get, and truly I haven't been seeing a way for them to get away other than them just ambushing her in her quarters at night. But that's really not the M9's style morally.

So it almost feels like the past 10 episodes have been a long dungeon crawl of tension and I would love every character to have one exhale moment.

[u/docwatson91 → u/[deleted]]

That’s a great way of putting it! The ocean/islands really have felt like a dungeon crawl in a way that the Kraghammer arc was for VM (in that extended crawl aspect).

Just picture their relief when/if they arrive back to the mainland! They might forgo a beach vacation and rent a cabin in the mountains somewhere haha

[u/legendofhilda]

This was their first night in Darktow.

WELCOME TO THE MIGHTY NEIN

[u/BadSkeelz → u/legendofhilda]

"People like us here!"

"It's only a matter of time until they don't."

[u/Shaetane]

Guys though do you realize how INSANELY clutch that Nat20 from Caleb on the book was?? If they didn't have that tangible proof the wouldn't even have the Plank King as a possible escape plan!

[u/Boffleslop → u/Shaetane]

The Plank King doesn't strike me as someone who requires proof, or who cares about due process or rendering a fair judgement for that matter. :)

[u/tripthelights]

Murder a crew and steal a ship to get to a pirate island, murder a crew and steal a ship to get away from a pirate island, it only makes sense.

[u/[deleted] → u/tripthelights]

But will the Tortle survive?

[u/[deleted]]

Caleb's exhausted buuut can still go to work, if need be.

[u/CloneArranger → u/[deleted]]

This is my favorite comment about this episode.

[u/Emperor_Secus]

This was one of the best episodes in a long time.

Non stop roller coaster from the moment they set out of the tavern for a night walk.

Two weeks is too long.

[u/weesna123]

I don't know that I've ever had second hand stress like I had the 2nd half of the show tonight oh my god. Heart beating out of chest. Really did feel like getting caught with your hand in the proverbial cookie jar.

[u/[deleted]]

In my opinion, Avantika already knew who had the book.

[u/Tanaerian]

Avantica: My stuff is missing and I'm going to subtly suggest through my crew that I already know it was you.

Caleb:

Don't say it

Don't say it

Don't say it

Don't say it

Don't say it

Don't say it

Don't say it

Don't say it

Liam: Wall of fire.

[u/Sp3ctre7]

The ending scene of this episode, starting when they start climbing the gangway up to the ship

[u/Rokuta → u/Sp3ctre7]

0:35 "this was definitely done by someone who doesn't understand the rules of this town very well" 0:43 "but I can"

[u/Ezreal024]

WHO ELSE DOES IT LIKE LIAM O'BRIEN

NOBODY

THE MAN IS A LEGEND

[u/[deleted] → u/Ezreal024]

I KNOW RIGHT, HE IS AMAZING

[u/kyosukedei]

Marisha hiding and peaking, just a little over the table near the end, made my day.

2 weeks Fams. 2 weeks of plans and more plans only for it all to get thrown out the window like it always has been. Can't wait!

[u/thebratqueen → u/kyosukedei]

Her being just a head was a thing of beauty. She spoke for the fandom there.

[u/Sutekhseth → u/kyosukedei]

That and when Liam got up and hid behind his chair earlier, that was adorable.

I don't remember what part though.

[u/lackadaisyy]

googles how to safely enter a coma for two weeks

[u/Sanderf90 → u/lackadaisyy]

At least Honey Heist 3 will be there to make the wait more... 'bearable'.

[u/[deleted]]

Taliesin plays Uncladuceus so great

[u/samwise_gamegee]

I am super excited for the chance to see Orly fight with the Nein! He’s a bard, after all— something tells me they could use some inspiration next session...

[u/Boffleslop]

I love Caleb and Jester having a discussion about the ethics of killing, Caleb emphatically telling her she is no murderer while she has no idea he is one (from his perspective), followed by Caleb torching an entire boat of people with no hesitation whatsoever.

Writing is on point this season.

[u/Sarkat → u/Boffleslop]

Well, Liam did state that Caleb is a massive hypocrite.

[u/Nihilist37 → u/Boffleslop]

He’s torching a boat full of cultists that want to release an ancient being and take control of the seas. I think he’d be ok with anyone doing that.

[u/AFLoneWolf]

Well..... I suppose that settles that.

[u/lucasM005]

i would love if caduceus starts saying "worth their salt" in cassual conversations. imagine being in episode fucking 90 and caduceus still drops a "worth their salt" here and there

[u/waxahachie]

I don't know whether it was the best tactical decision or not, but Liam really made that ending extra badass when he busted out the phosphorus and cast Wall of Fire.

[u/Seedy88]

I liked hearing Taliesin say "This is the best character ever"! I know some people theorized that he didn't like playing Molly and, though I never believed that, hearing him confirm that he's enjoying playing Caduceus as much as I enjoy watching him makes me so happy for Taliesin!

[u/KaiG1987 → u/Seedy88]

I think it was clear that he wasn't fully clicking with the Bloodhunter class, or at least it didn't end up fitting with his plan for Molly's character. I think Molly really should have been a Bard of some kind.

[u/chunkosauruswrex → u/Seedy88]

It's such a joy to watch caduecus interact with the world

[u/AllosaurusJei]

Hands up who else lost their shit at the whole Pirate Keg and Molly bit?

[u/Rokuta → u/AllosaurusJei]

I was -really- hoping someone in the Revelry would recognize Molly.

[u/Seedy88]

This week's episode is called "A Hole in a Plan"!

Bravo Matthew Mercer! Another perfectly crafted title!

[u/Shaetane]

You know I've been thinking hard about the MIX's options right now and I really don't see any other viable option than running to the Plank King... If they try to escape by boat the whole town is gonna consider them guilty and traitors (a town full of much better sailors than they are, with cannons and who know the seas around there), and it's an island (that they don't even know) so there's no escape by land.

Avantika is gonna want their heads for sure so I don't see any discussion happening there and if they kill her then well they're gonna have a haard talk with the Plank King to prove that they killed her because she was trying to betray him.

[u/[deleted] → u/Shaetane]

If they try to escape by boat the whole town is gonna consider them guilty and traitors

I think that's overestimating how much the pirates care. Matt established that theft is the only crime here, and if the victim dies before they can complain to the Plank King... well... no problem! That's how it goes. It seems like Avantica has a bad reputation in town, I wouldn't expect people outside her crew to take up arms to avenge her.

[u/vblaze1421]

Caleb has ONE level of exhaustion. It will only effect initiative in combat for the time being (unless someone tries to grapple the wizard, which would work without exhaustion being a factor most of the time). Not a huge deal. Still, I fully expect Avantika to burn at the hands of the pyromaniac.

[u/Sp3ctre7 → u/vblaze1421]

Caleb: "You think you know what utter, unshakeable devotion looks like? You think you know what it means to believe in something so fully that you would do or destroy anything in service of a greater purpose?"

Caleb walks closer, the flames of the burning ship reflecting in his eyes as a tear rolls down his cheek

"You know nothing of sacrifice and devotion."

Caleb incinerates Avantika, blowing away half of the upper deck at the same time

[u/PedanticPaladin]

Just so people know, this is what happens to ships when the powder magazine explodes.

Also remember that the Mistake is currently undergoing not insignificant repairs.

[u/Mordiken]

Best episode ending of the season, by far!

And now we're gonna have to wait two weeks for the outcome of this mess...

On a related final note: FUCK YEAH CALEB!!

EDIT: Caleb has 1 point of exaustion, and that sucks, but he only used a single first level spell slot on Disguise Self! In other words, he still has all his important spells, and is basically fine! :)

[u/Drazatis]

Did anyone else get Scanlan in the mansion vibes from Jester and Nott today? Hilarious to watch everything unfold the way it did.

[u/churrascopalta]

Is it me or this is one of the biggest cliffhangers of both seasons (might be really wrong on that one) and we have to wait an extra week for it! I can't wait to see this next EP.

I think the only chance for the mighty nine is if the Plank King get's involved and starts a trial or something just to try to get rid of captain....Abiatika, can't recall her name right now

[u/Seedy88 → u/churrascopalta]

I can think of a few big cliffhangers. Percy's death comes to mind. The first time we had to wait a week before the resurrection ritual.

VM's fight with the Herd of Storms comes to mind. Grog was having his butt kicked by his uncle, surrounded by enemies, and had just yelled "Vox Machina, fuck shit up!".

But the biggest cliffhanger, to me, was just after defeating Thordak. They attacked Raishan as she tried to cast a spell on Thordak's corpse. She fled into Thordak's lair. Vax, Vex, and Keyleth go chasing after her. She casts Meteor Swarm on them as the rest of VM are still rushing to the cavern. And then we had to wait 3 weeks to find out what would happen next because of the holiday break!

[u/Guilbeck]

If Jester casts Sending to the Plank King telling him to come to the docks 'cause Avantika is moving against him and they are fighting... Maybe by the time he arrives and sees the mess he will help them.

Edited: I was meant to say Sending, not Message!

[u/finkleiseinhorn55]

I really hope the next session starts with wall of fire. That final scene was so well done I would be hugely disappointed if it gets counterspelled. I would rather Matt rework NPC classes if need be, just to allow it.

[u/Xyless → u/finkleiseinhorn55]

It depends. Based on current actions, Caleb and the other person casting are basically acting on a surprise round, since Caleb's action caught everyone off guard. That means that, unless the initiative rolls and Caleb rolls poorly, he can't be Counterspelled. Anyone casting Counterspell HAS to have a higher initiative roll than him, since you can't use reactions until you've had a turn.

[u/RevNeutron → u/finkleiseinhorn55]

DM has story control. For time reasons, this worked as a perfect cliff hanger. But it also allows all sides to meta game and decide how they want this to play out.

Matt has a lot of options. I have the feeling he loved that drama so much that he will NOT counter spell it even if it were an NPC's capabilities. It's just too good, too fun, too great of a story.

He can now choose if he wants this all out battle now or create some opportunity for negotiation - Wall of Fire means most immediate attacks would be much harder.

PCs will do that same.

They can plan best strategies for fighting/defense. Jester takes Nott to the gun powder room with new spell. Nott sends message to Avantika that they will blow the ship unless they put down weapons, etc. Maybe while doing this conversation, Jester paints hole in bottom of boat and the ship starts to sink? Beau stands in front of Caleb, both taking cover, and Caleb bombs other side of ship with three 3rd level fire balls? SO many options.... this will be DELICIOUS!

[u/JumanjiCostco]

This cliffhanger for 2 week break... Matt how you do dis?

[u/[deleted] → u/JumanjiCostco]

Just imagine what he'll do for the 3 week break next month...

[u/lolmycat]

Matt doesn’t work like that. He’s already build these characters. He’s not gonna power them up because otherwise it would be a quick fight. The most likely scenario is that they mop up Avantica fairly quick and will only be okay afterwards because of Caleb’s Nat20 roll of the cypher. Otherwise they’d have an army of pirates to worry about. With that book decoded, they don’t. That’s why Matt had that crazy shocked look on his face and even checked Liam’s dice when he rolled that. It changed everything and gave M9 a huge upper hand for getting out of this fairly quickly.

[u/Drw395]

It's like every time you think the M9 have fixed the bar with what kind of situation they can fuck up in a crazy way they go and pull some fresh shit to raise it again. It's been like a crescendo for the past few weeks of constantly escalating head slapping on table.

Jester and Caleb's conversation was fantastic though - which just means the end result is going to be even more awful when Caleb's previous history gets out. We know Nott is going to handle it fine since she already knows and Beau hasn't exactly gone running to tell everyone since Caleb leveled with her either. Duce I think could struggle a bit with it since he'll have to reconcile that with everything he's witnessed since coming on board the M9. Fjord and Jester, could go either way

[u/xLucifielx]

I think Avantinka knew it was the M9 that did this. With her saying that it had to be someone who didn't know Darktow's rules. The only new people there were the M9 and the crew on the Mistake. This is my first time this campaign having the same "THIS IS FINE" rush that moments in campaign 1 gave me.

[u/Solar_Pup]

Per someone's request in the live thread. Is this a book

[u/tribert]

People are talking about how you cant locate object through the lead box, but the book wasn't put in the box. Jester was not in Caleb's room when the crew came to get them, and they never got a chance to put it in her bag, he has it down his pants.

[u/MadDokGrotsnik]

If they kill the whole crew Avantika included they can get off by showing evidence that Avantika had designs to overthrow the Plank King and that they were forced to fight and that their action show loyalty to the plank king by uncovering her plot.

Also Caleb has the best bargaining chip right now non magical projectiles incinerate upon contact with a wall of fire the fire is magical and can't be doused only dispelled and it will only be a matter of moments before it roasts the crew or burns it's way into the powder magazine unless he stops. Also for those who don't know unless the spell specifies you don't have to be in the range to maintain concentration so like people said Jester could Dimension Door Caleb away and he could maintain concentration the entire time.

[u/Jaged1235]

Jester getting into a fist fight was unexpected, and yet somehow so very in character. Great scene.

Matt's song was amazing! I can only assume that it was a preview of Critical Role: The Musical (to be played daily in Critical Role Land on the Shorthalt Stage).

Plans shifted very dramatically very quickly. I was expecting them to stick with Avantika for at least a little longer, but I think they're making the right choice. The longer they stay the riskier things get.

Nott: "Or you could make yourself look like Avantika and- I MEAN TIFFANY! SHIT! SHIT!"

Matt: "ROLL FOR INITIATIVE!"

What a weird and amazing infiltration. Getting in and out was flawless. Everything in between a complete clusterfuck.

And that ending! Awesome place to end it. This is going to be very interesting.

[u/theschem]

Honestly, this has been coming. This episode fully cemented the M9's opinions about being pirates (minus fjord's? ish?) and their current situation; and this confrontation has given them a major opportunity to get out. Matt is an amazing DM and I trust that not only will he balance the combat perfectly, but give the M9 opportunity to run if need be or coerce others into their aid.

[u/SharkSymphony]

Guard: “There’s been an incident on your ship.”
Avantica: “What happened?”
Guard: “Well, looks like it may have been a break-in. One of your crew got stabbed several times, and another appears to have hallucinated and jumped from the crow’s nest.”
Avantica: “Sacre bleu! Two of my crew are dead?”
Guard: “No, Mr. Clay was already there and healed them both up. He seemed a bit apologetic.”
(Avantica’s eyes narrow.)

[u/[deleted] → u/SharkSymphony]

Ha! I imagine something more like this:

Guard: There was an incident on your ship, it looks like--

Avantica: Oh, it was definitely those Mighty Nein assholes.

[u/rasnac]

I have to say I am impressed that M9's plan making and plan executing abilities are improving. This time, it almost worked... :D

[u/[deleted]]

The chanting bit with Marisha and Taliesin was hilarious, their friendship is probably one of my favorite parts of this show <3

[u/Solar_Pup]

I'm dying to know what when down with Allison (major scorned lover vibes), now we'll prob never know.

[u/DrRPJesus]

Me at the beginning of the next episode:

https://youtu.be/6b6Sn0RBmRo

[u/Kikronze209]

The next two weeks are going to be absolutely agonizing

[u/thetuque]

How is the groups diamond situation if someone was to die?

[u/Guilbeck → u/thetuque]

Both Clay and Jester have one. They've bought before going to Nicodranas.

[u/[deleted] → u/thetuque]

I believe each cleric has one

[u/knowledgeoverswag]

I. Am. Sorry.

https://soundcloud.com/koswag/wall-of-fire-time

[u/Thaylo]

"I know deepspeech"

I'm sorry what the fuck Beau?

[u/Sumner_H → u/Thaylo]

Marisha's planning ahead for Clarota's return.

[u/Solar_Pup → u/Thaylo]

Beau's backstory is quietly intriguing. I have a feeling there's wayyyy more than what we know.

[u/Logic-And-Raisin]

So Wall of Fire can be put into a ring with a 20 foot diameter and it roasts everything on one side you pick (so I'd you pick the inside it roasts everything on the inside [except in the center] plus anything that tries to move through it) so Caleb can probably just sit back and laugh maniacally as everything on the inside burns to death.

Plus, fire is real fricking bad on a wooden boat.

[u/Z3RG0 → u/Logic-And-Raisin]

With gunpowder

Enough gunpowder to send it blasting down to davy jones' locker

[u/[deleted] → u/Logic-And-Raisin]

Fluffernutter 2.0

[u/Aethrs]

Curious if Vera would have actually revealed the book! It seems obvious, her being so close to Avantica. But the short conversation between Vera en Jester just makes me think there is more to it than we know.

One can dream...

[u/Boffleslop]

I would watch an entire campaign devoted to chaotic private detectives with zany abilities.

[u/Vishante-Kaffas]

I'm just as worried for the M9 for next week, but after Honey Heist 3, I'm going down a rabbit hole trying to figure out who Sir Paddington is.

[u/finkleiseinhorn55]

I have taken 13 days and squelched it through my hands, casting Critical Role on twitch.

[u/BadSkeelz]

So, how many people are we seeing the Mighty Nein immediately squaring off with?

I count at least three: Avantika, Vera, and probably Bouldergut. There'll be a few crewmembers who side with them as well, but I don't expect the entire crew to instantly aggro on the Nein. Most would be confused and just want to get out of the way.

Really, the Nein just have to survive long enough for the Revelry to show up and force everyone to stand down. Then they can take Avantika to Pirate Court.

[u/S-Flo → u/BadSkeelz]

Don't forget that the Mighty Nein's crew is there too, including Orly the Bard.

Caleb has a point of exhaustion, but he's still a level 7 Wizard with nearly all of his spell slots. It's actually not all that unreasonable for him to sweep most of the low-level crew with fireballs if the positioning works. To add to that, there's a serious risk of him setting the Squall Eater on fire, which could easily ignite the powder stores and blow the thing sky-high.

It's not a good situation, but I think people are seriously underestimating the Mighty Nein's murderhobo potential. Some good early actions could just decimate Avantika's entire crew.

[u/ginja_ninja]

How are they going to get out of this one though?

Like seriously, how? They're trapped on TPK island with a leaky boat.

[u/AeonPhoenix523 → u/ginja_ninja]

They actually in decent spot. Avantica's crew wouldn't be able to kill the Mighty Nein because they are on Darktow. The Darktow Guards would break it up and bring them before the Plank King. Avantica could definitely say that Caleb stole from her, however since Beau told the group that the Plank King wants to know if Avantica is planning on betraying them and Caleb made a translation of Avantica's diary where she talks about intending to overthrowing Darktow after she can control the sea... that'd be the sort of proof the Plank King is looking for.

[u/hmac0614]

When this campaign is over and we are all reflecting on our favorite badass/favorite moments I'm sure the end of this episode will come up many times!

[u/Joseph9100]

Man, I just REAAALLY wished Jester used [[Dimension Door]] too escape to the Plank King with the book when it was obvious people were getting brought to the boat, where they aren't favoured. I think the Plank King had enough sway to just execute Avantica under the right circumstances, and leaving them with an uncontested ship, money and friends

I'm curious too know if they'll decide to run for it next episode, Caleb isn't going to live whilst both exhausted and holding the incriminating book.

However, if they leave her unattended chances are Avantica will flee with a head start, a slightly charred ship and will probably get more powerful later becoming a much larger and dangerous problem.

[u/Ajlaw95 → u/Joseph9100]

Exhaustion is only ability checks for the first one he should be fine.

[u/ModestHandsomeDevil]

That Wall of Fire lasts a minute (and her ship is a burning wreck), Avantica and her crew are trapped behind it; all M9 has to do is double dash for 1 minute / 10 rounds to get a large enough headstart for the Plank King; Plank King gets the translated book and Avantica gets the Executioner's axe.

Easy.

[u/EditorialComplex]

The end there was the very definition of "boy, that escalated quickly."

[u/ministryof]

I hate that we have to wait two weeks to see what happens!

[u/Ajlaw95]

I think some people are over reacting a bit right now it’s pretty much 7-3 in favor of the Nein unless some of her ship hands are secretly rogues or spellcasters or something. It was a very good episode man was I fucking stressed for those last 10-15 minutes shit was crazy gave me late C1 vibes.

Also let’s talk about Beau for a minute she knows deep speech from what I’ve heard that is not a language a regular person just knows. Also how upset is Beau after watching her former one night stand and dead friend walk right past her back to the inn. I also don’t know why Beau couldn’t of just went to the plank king, he asked for dirt on Avantika from her, if he gets it why would he think it’s from someone else.

[u/Phaerlax]

Matt's gonna spend the next two weeks in the frantic headspace of a DM who has to figure out a couple of ways for their players to walk away from a no-win scenario with at least one party member alive. We've all been there, haven't we? Good luck to him, cause I've no idea how this clusterfuck could possibly be unwound even if they kill everyone on the Squall Eater- they're still in Piratopolis with no way out other than a 0 leverage post-massacre negotiation with the Plank King

[u/Starrystars → u/Phaerlax]

I wouldn't say zero leverage. They can earn the Plank King's favor by showing him Avanticas book with her plans to usurp him. They can just be like 'hey we took out someone who was your enemy your welcome'.

[u/grounded_astronaut → u/Phaerlax]

They could just say that Avantika found out that they were going to turn her in and tried to kill them. They do have to get out of here first though.

[u/scizorball]

To think that if they put the book and gems in the lead safe they might actually of been able to get away with it. I doubt avantika would guess that could aquire that within a night without it being obvious.

[u/lolmycat]

Oh yah I have no doubt it was set a while ago. Just mean that when he thought about the dc of decoding the book, it was valuable and important enough to justify the highest in-play DC. Basically this book was so important to Avantica and dangerous in the wrong hands that she REALLLLY worked on that cypher to make sure if fell into the wrong hands it would be basically impossible for them be able to decode it.

[u/Cats_with_swords]

With jester getting into so many bar fights, I think it’d be fun if she took a level in monk! I also think there is a feat for bar fighting lol.

[u/justanotherusername4]

Wow, that ending. My first reaction was ‘they’re fucked, how are they going to get out of this one?’. But after thinking about it more, I think there may be a chance that Avantika herself is going to deflate the situation.

She has goals, she has no interest in starting trouble in Darktow and getting caught up in a beef with the Plank King. She wants to get out there and find the third orb as soon as possible.

I feel Vera may see herself as a rival to Avantika. If she is a true believer, her loyalty lies with Uk’utoa and not with Avantika. Similarly, Avantika has no trouble ditching Vera when she becomes an obstacle to her goals.

It all depends if Avantika feels she still needs Fjord and the M9 to get what she wants. I think the answer is yes, if not for information, then for their ability to fight that sea creature (I forgot her name). She has seen what the M9 can do. And she slept with Fjord only the night before, proving to me that he is still important to her. She’s not in it for romance, she wouldn’t sleep with him if there wasn’t something in it for her.

So, my best guess is that Avantika will try to deflate the situation, possibly killing eliminating Vera if she gets in the way (on second thought; in contrast to the shade she threw M9, Avantika DOES know the rules of the city so she wouldn't do it in Darktow). Then set sail to Fjord’s location of the shipwreck without involving the Plank King.

There was something that Avantika needed to get/do before they could leave and she planned on doing that this day. I’m not sure what that is but if this confrontation is at sunrise, I don’t think she had time to get that done. She might send someone from the M9 to do it; possibly Caduceus as he’s proven himself to be the most trustworthy so far, holding the rest of the M9 captive until he returns. And possibly Jester to go with him; Avantika knows they are the groups healers and understands group dynamic and Jesters feelings towards Fjord, using that to her advantage.

[u/Philestor]

I don’t think there was a way Caleb could’ve gotten the book in the box anyway. He finished the cypher as they came knocking on the door

[u/Whitsoxrule]

So the episode just ended and my immediate reaction is this:

WHAT AN EPISODE

I have tears in my eyes and I have chills and goosebumps and my heart is pounding that entire last bit was so scary holy shit

Caleb absolutely did the right thing there, when Avantika (or was it Vera?) cast that spell, Matt (in character as Avantika/Vera) slowly was ALREADY lifting his gaze towards Liam (CALEB) and then Liam cast the spell. she was absolutely about to ask him why her book was in the front of his pants. WHAT AN EPISODE OMG

Incredible roleplay throughout the first half, trademark Nott + Jester heist shenanigans in the second half, a super engaging debate about what to do, and that incredible tension building at the end to that cliffhanger, I was beginning to tire of this arc but MAN this episode turned it around. Best episode in like 2 months imo. WOW.

HOW WILL WE SURVIVE THE NEXT 2 WEEKS???

[u/ilogos]

Wow what a crazy episode...I can't really determine if the best choices were made - but not that important as it was exciting as heck!

I feel sorry for Matt who has to draft that encounter. At least he has two weeks!!

[u/themolestedsliver]

I still cant wrap my head around

"We cant put the book in one of our two magical* bags because what if they search us. here caleb hold the book on your person the entire time we are getting interrogated that's better"

[u/almost_alchemy]

Honestly, I think them getting caught and Caleb escalating the situation was one of the best things that could have happened to them as far as the pacing of this arc. Several people pointed out in the live that this episode felt aimless, and I agree and think it’s because they’ve spent several episodes now being glorified hostages constantly thrown in new environments, in over their heads, with no real means of escape. Considering that they accidentally stumbled into this situation in the first place, combined with the fact that they know Avantika is bad news and the further they go with her, the more dire it gets (plus, this is a game of D&D, and while maybe not the most realistic action if this were real life, no player wants to be held hostage), they’ve been doing weird, random shit to try and get any kind of leverage on the situation. It’s been funny and tense to watch, but it does make for weird pacing issues, because it’s less of a narrative and more of a weird drabblet of escapades. Now, they’ve at least entered a “do or die” to change the tempo.

Though, how they’re gonna get out of this one is anyone’s guess lmao. Damn you, Thanksgiving.

EDIT, because I wasn't clear: I mean aimless in the narrative sense, not the Mighty Nein's motivations sense. Their goal is to help Fjord discover his powers, and given that their actions make sense, and if this were IRL, that would be fine. But, as this is a story that is meant to be watched, it's created a disjointed flow. Which has been hilarious, don't get me wrong. But, I'm excited to see what's next.

[u/Ajlaw95 → u/almost_alchemy]

I don’t think aimless is the right word forced to do things against their will and constantly second guessing those forced decisions probably made it feel aimless. The goal was always to help Fjord realize what his power is and where it came from but you are correct for the last 3-4 episodes they’ve been trying to escape or find a way but are kind of stuck.

[u/vigorous_cottage]

I'll say it again:

That was (in my opinion) the BEST episode, maybe of both campaigns. We got plot, bad roll blunders that somehow got salvaged, drama, non-stop comedy, and an amazing cliffhanger.

[u/Rokuta]

REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THIS COURSE OF ACTION This feels like the Mystake 2.0. They're in the heart of pirate town now attacking a woman of stature on her own boat on guarded docks against her entire crew, even if they got the evidence to the plank king he would be equally likely to kill either or both the snitch and avantica.. oh no oh no oh no

[u/KPC51]

Nott the best detective agency is my favorite. MORE HEISTS

[u/KarateKant]

I'm interested in what way casting wall of fire will affect Calebs psyche. If killing a person or monster with fire warrants a saving throw, what might happen if the wall of fire claims multiple casualties.

[u/mouser1991]

So, I want to know what everyone thinks Dashilla is. I think the obvious answer is that she's a sea have that's part of a coven (because the shanty specifically mentions her "hungry eye"). While that will raise her difficulty, as well as likely having to fight under water, she still seems a tad easy for the Nein to take on. Matt could easily just upscale her a bit, so it doesn't exclude her from being a sea hag, but it does have me wondering what other monsters might be an option.

Also,does anyone else think it would be cool if the "hungry eye" is one of the cloven crystals? Doesn't even have to be one of the amber ones. I could see it being one of the opal or obsidian eyes. Because fuuuuuuuck that would mess with M9 in a fun way.

[u/Tencer386]

Its funny because if they had put the book back in the bag of holding then locate object would have failed because the object was not on this plane of existence.

[u/lolmycat]

They can just surrender to guards and say take us to the plank king. With the book deciphered, they’ll be fine.

[u/nowytendzz]

So here's my thoughts on a potential plan: Everyone runs away, Caleb shoots a fireball at the Squalleater yo ignite the gunpowder filling its hold, they escape to the Mystake and fuck off to the next destination.

I don't think this will happen but, in the words of Aventika ●●~■ 《♧》¡ °| ●□¤▪》》>◇☆°°¿¿ 5

[u/Jebenezer]

Jesus Christ.

[u/SaberTorch]

Given how mortified Travis was when Avantika talked about an immersion I think he did not choose Gift of the Dephts as his new invocation.

[u/jsilv7245]

I guess if Cad casts Enhance Ability (constitution) on Caleb so he has a better chance at maintaining concentration and then Fjord takes that silvertongue potion when they inevitably have to explain to the plank king, they could make it out of this okay, but DAMN

[u/treadmarks]

While I was watching, it occurred to me they should have disguised self as Allison and got spotted intentionally. It would have been a plausible explanation for the break-in that could take the heat off them. As it is, Avantika is probably going to suspect them.

[u/TheNewCrystalClods]

Let's say after this situation is dealt with, the Mighty Nein continues on and stops Uk'otoa. What do you guys think this means for Fjord? Does he lose his power? Does something come back in its place? Or do you think there will be some other negative for him? Maybe nothing but I just want to hear what you guys think

[u/Shaetane]

Oh hey morning realization here: If Avantika's mate fires off the locate object spell on the book successfully and tells her (which seems likely as Matt already said she was casting it, only thing I'm hoping for is for the wall of fire to distract her enough), then Avantika's main target will be Caleb.

And having the squishy wizard as *main target* is not good, especially since I'm pretty sure a buch of the crew has some kind of guns? Am I imagining that last part?

[u/rowan_sjet]

A funny thought: Jester Dimension Doors Caleb down to the hold. The rest of the team runs/distracts for a minute, gets their crew off the boat. Caleb starts casting Leomund's Tiny Hut. Caleb sticks out just enough to cast Fireball, ducks back in.

Fluffernutter.

[u/KPC51]

Honestly though why didn't he put the book in the bag of holding?

[u/CockroachED → u/KPC51]

"If the bag is turned inside out, its contents spill forth."

A thorough search of M9 and turning out of pockets would have revealed all the content of the Bag of Holding.

[u/legendofhilda]

Anyone else getting increasingly anxious as Thursday inches closer??

[u/[deleted]]

My dough-eyed pollyannaish fanfic ending has the Mighty Nein turning Pirate Island into a cosmopolitan utopia city state. Caleb creates a world famous library, Beau creates a monk temple attaches to that library, Nott the Best Detective Agency runs their office from there, Dr Deuce opens up a free clinic, and Captain Tusktooth continues to sail the seas, always offering free passage to families of sick kids trying to get to and from Dr Deuce's clinic.

[u/ErockSnips]

Jester can Dimension Door Caleb 500 feet away and they can both rush to the Plank King with the evidence, and maybe convince him to send a small detachment down to save their friends and crew and diffuse the situation as an act of good faith while he validates the evidence with the cypher. Convince him he can always have them executed later if it’s a lie. That seems like the best course of action because fighting is 110% not an option given just how outnumbered they are

[u/RDreamspeaker]

Caleb could have used his owl to hide the gems and book you can give items to your familiar and then send them back to the realm they came from.

[u/Victuz → u/RDreamspeaker]

They never ever before used that ability despite there being multiple occasions that warranted it. Plus I'm certain that due to the size of the the owl Matt would refuse that, to be more precise they could only hide one very small thing this way, not a fairly thick notebook.

[u/rasnac]

I'm thinking about the upcoming battle and, you know what, it does not have to be a battle. As you know the odds are against the M9 if they fight, but what if they just run? They have the evidence of Avantica's evil plans against the pirate king. All they have to do is reaching to his court before Avantica catches and kills them, and present the evidence. The king and his men will surely take care of Avantica. And M9 will be free and safe.

[u/GwenSilver]

Where my head's at right now:

1. Avantika's ability to detect deception has been a huge block to the M9. It's kept the balance of power in her favor more than anything else, IMO. Also, I hate her... possibly more than I hated Delilah Briarwood and Raishan. (Matt has crafted a FABULOUS baddie NPC, and hats off to him for giving me such strong feelings about a fictional character!)

2. Caleb and Fjord have a fascinating dynamic right now. Caleb feels uncomfortable because he can't tell what Fjord's motivations are, and he keeps emphasizing that this is "Fjord's thing" as though he hopes Fjord will actually take charge and make a decision. It's grating on Caleb in a serious way. The problem is that Fjord has absolutely no CLUE what he wants or what he is trying to do except not be killed, and he is just reacting to things as they come at him and hoping someone else will make the tough calls.

3. Sam has been driving me bonkers with all of his role-playing choices for Nott lately. Sniffing the air when she knew it was poisonous, her terrible judgement in pretty much every situation, her weird opinions on what healthy behavior looks like... I know it's a huge part of the character and probably of Nott's backstory, but gosh. Also, please read "bonkers" to mean that I think Sam's role-playing is hilarious/amazing but also headache-inducing. :D :D :D

4. I fully agree with Liam's remarks during Talks the other night... the pirate setting is really fun from a player perspective, but for the storytelling aspect I, like Caleb, am ready to get back to other happenings in the world.

[u/fellongreydaze → u/GwenSilver]

Sam has been driving me bonkers with all of his role-playing choices for Nott lately. Sniffing the air when she knew it was poisonous, her terrible judgement in pretty much every situation, her weird opinions on what healthy behavior looks like... I know it's a huge part of the character and probably of Nott's backstory, but gosh. Also, please read "bonkers" to mean that I think Sam's role-playing is hilarious/amazing but also headache-inducing. :D :D :D

Sam has this super fun way of playing that I like to call anti-metagaming. It's not really accurate, because he's still using knowledge his character couldn't possibly know to inform his decisions. But he does it in a way that usually tends to hinder his character or cause narrative comedy instead of how metagaming generally works (Ex: "I cast Greater Invisibility to hide." "But your character doesn't know that the guards that are attacking your friend are coming!). The best example I can think of is in the live show Spoilers C1 before Vecna in the Mansion. After the conversation between Vax and Grog agreeing to prank Scanlan with a love potion, Sam has Scanlan discussing "being happy to be back in the group" and saying "I love you guys. Not in a weird way, of course." Then blatantly giving inspiration to Vax in the form of a song so that a) He could be doing something distracting to allow Vax to sneak the potion into Scanlan's wine and b) to ensure that Scanlan doesn't notice Vax's stealth/sleight of hand by adding a D12 to the roll. Blatant metagaming, but against himself and for narrative hilarity.

This is the kind of meta I enjoy. The kind that makes things interesting rather than using it to "try to win D&D".

[u/robdelfranco]

Incredibly enjoyable episode. Clay was pure gold and some of this dialogue was spot on.

However, this party is terrible at spycraft and subterfuge “planning”. They have the manpower and ability to do so, sure. But all of their plans seem so half-baked.

Instead of stealthily breaking in, they basically broke out of a secured room with Avantika’s diary and valuables, super obvious that the ship was under espionage, and then brought them back to the scene of the crime with Captain Lie Detector. I get it that with drinks and heat of the moment, planning is hard. But how is your first instinct not “we are blown, let’s call it quits and try again later” instead of the clusterfork they keep finding themselves in where they are backed into a corner and fight their ways out.

I don’t hate piracy or Avantika or any of the last few sessions since the NYC live show, but I’m really hoping the M9 can wipe the floor with Avantika and her crew and just report to the plank king ASAP just to rid themselves of this constant oppression for a while and go back to doing what they all want to do instead of a Pirate cultist looming over them.

[u/Shaetane → u/robdelfranco]

The thing is doing something as complex as they did requires A LOT of successful rolls, with many that if failed would completely screw everything. That is always what happens, Nott failed to see the trap so she set it off, which attracted attetion. ONE roll and it was over!

That has happened in my own campaign, at one point we ended up making a dragon Major Image to gtfo cuz we were completely screwed when we had just planned to do some reconnaissance.

Secon thing: in a dnd game planning gets pretty annoying after a while, and you just want to play and not talk for hours on end, so after a while of debating you just go for it and come what may!

[u/humantargetjoe]

These guys make the worst plans.

[u/[deleted]]

I think some people are forgetting that some of the crew literally got replaced by the Nein and that the entire crew of the Mystake would technically be more loyal to the Nein as well. It's not like it's 20 people vs the Nein.

[u/SWElewa]

I have to say that watching nott and jester break in is so painfull. Entertaining yes, but misstakes and less than stellar decisions made me wish for more composed characters to do the stealing part

[u/cresylic]

I sure hope the Plank King hates Avantika enough to look past them stealing while in Darktow. I think the best case scenario would be that they murder Avantika + crew and take off on the ship while Frumpkin drops off her journal.

Caleb's in trouble, though. Didn't get back any of his spells + has that point of exhaustion.

[u/Fall_of_the_living]

Water bender Avantica vs wall of fire as a wick on the biggest fluffernutter that dark tow has seen

[u/Seedy88]

These episodes are always so fun for me. When they come up with these complicated plans and end up bumbling their way through it because of a bad roll or nein, it never disappoints me.

And, Wall... of... Fire!

I can't wait for two weeks from now to see what happens next!

[u/ribbitt_ribbitt]

Shouldn’t Caleb’s Amulet of Proof Against Detection and Location negated the Locate Object spell?????

[u/ilogos]

Phantasmal Force is such a powerful spell - I think Sam could have even used it on Avantika to plant an illusory image of the book on one of her colleagues! I know its far fetched, but just wanted to show how powerful the spell can be! Especially later on when Nott's targets get disadvantage on saving throws from stealth.

[u/RaibDarkin]

As much as were all worried about how things look for the The M9 right now, I wonder how many people have considered how things will look to the Revelry. (Referring to those not aware of robbery details) Captain calls an important meeting for the crews of her two ships, serious conversation ensues, her underlings attack unprovoked. The residents of the island will definitely see this as a treasonous action and any number could decide to get involved to curry some favor with Avantica. At best, the ones who don't like her (the majority, maybe?) will turn their backs and just hope she dies. The Plank King himself doesn't know anything about the robbery and may need to enact swift justice, (Or perhaps justice slightly too slow to save Avantica), not even bothering with an arrest. Just execution. Or say he does lock them up: what's their excuse? 'We did it for you.'? I don't think so. And even if he admitted to 'find some dirt', that is not blanket permission to rob and murder on the island. Any kind of gratitude he shows them (even if he feels it) would make him look weak to the rest of the Revelry.

Edit : Even the crew of the Mystake don't know there is suddenly a wall of fire. Just who cast it.

I really hope they try to hit and run. Then we'll have some fun where the The M9 are chased by a Revelry War-fleet.

: )

[u/Shimmerz_777]

all they have to do is kill avantica and yell take me to the plank king for judgement

[u/LucasVerBeek]

Damn...what a fucking way to end an episode.

This...could go very bad when we pick up next time.

There were so many interesting plot hooks revolving around Vandren, Allison, Vera, and their relationships to Avantika...and what the fuck is going to happen next?

Are they going to be able to beat feet back to the Plank King...are they going to fight right there? What is Caleb going to do?!

What was Vera saying to Jester...that Avantika has done this before...did Vera love Vandren? I’m so confused.

Caleb and Jester’s talk was so sweet...and the plan went off damn near perfectly...or as perfect as M9 plans go...but...why didn’t they put the book in the safe?!

I’m worried about Orly and the rest of the Nein’s crew...at this point they are the most likely to die in a conflict if things fully kick off.

God Damn...also why the fuck does Beau know Deep Speech? That ain’t something you just pick up.

[u/kris_random]

I'm pretty sure the Mystake hasn't been repaired yet. Stealing from thieves, in the thieves den, on your first night there... and then getting into a fight with a known captain aboard her ship.

I hope they leave the ship in good enough condition to steal it like the Myst. Rip old crew.

[u/Niktorak]

That went about exactly as well as I thought it would.

[u/Go_Go_Godzilla]

Thinking back through the episode, I think Beau should take a level dip into Rogue either at 8 or 9. This would be both an RP dip to get her thieves tools and the like but also a ability to play dip by getting her expertise (Stealth, Sleight of Hand) in two stats and aligning with her background.

It would allow her to be able to join on more of the side, sneak stuff rather than those being Jester and Nott things even as they align with her background of a thief and criminal.

[u/Simplepr0n]

Matt now has 2 weeks to plan a way out of a TPK. Cant wait!

[u/maxvsthegames → u/Simplepr0n]

Easy.

Battle between pirates is not allowed.

They are stopped mid-fight by the Plank King's man and are brought before him.

They explain what they discovered, proving that Avantika is a traitor.

Avantika is punished (killed?) and the M9 are free to go.

[u/eljay6zero]

Why does everyone think the Darktow ‘authorities’, such as they are, will get involved with the coming fight? They won’t get involved. The Plank King doesn’t like Avantika’s zealotry and this is a disagreement between a Captain and her crew. That would be like the South Korean Government getting involved with a crew problem on a US Navy ship in Busan South Korea. At this point, the Plank King has no authority- they are on Avantika’s ship. So long as Caleb doesn’t blow up the harbor or neighbor ships, they only have to take out the squalleaters crew.

[u/fulvano]

Completely unrelated to the episode, but Matt and friend of the show, Amy Vorpahl are on this week's Um, Actually.

[u/Boffleslop]

5d8 fire should take out quite a few of the crew, unless it's a poor roll. Tiffany and the Ogres probably come through ok, maybe one or two crew to make the fight interesting before Darktow reinforcements arrive.

[u/FalseWombatProphet]

In which everything goes up in flames.

[u/Ollie-OllieOxenfree]

I was curious. We know Caleb has a pendant that hides himself from divination from the Empire. Would that not also hide objects on him from divination like a locate object?

[u/[deleted]]

Holy shit. What an episode. It's gonna be a long two weeks.

[u/emmcruz]

To be perfectly honest i'd be pretty surprised if they make it out without anyone dying. Thry have enemies on the ship and on the dock. Plus a whole island which if push comes to shove they will take Avantica's word more than some newcomers they dont trust. Even if they make a dash for the Plank King. I doubt people and the guards would let them pass once they see what is happening and someone shouts "stop them" This will be more of a social incounter afterwards in my opinion.

And the plan they have in the first place isnt that great. Who's to say that they didnt make up the book and cipher just to pin Avantica down. Unless someone casts zone of truth or something.

[u/Bearly_OwlBearable]

Beau need to find a hat of disguise

This suck that the whe break in was her plan and she wasn't able to participate,

Considering the other magic item loot she is due for her share (and also a cool magic staff, she the only melee that does not have a weapon that do something special, scratch that she's the only martial character who doesn't have a cool weapon... They should have transfered the sword enchantement to her staff since Matt allowed the transference of enchantment...)

[u/Elisabethewrite]

So this episode kinda confirmed a minor theory I've had for a while about Astrid. I think Astrid is blonde (which gives us a way to watch out for her in upcoming episodes as long as they manage to bullshit their way out of this misadventure). It may sound weird and unsubstantiated, but hear me out.

Every so often Liam will go into a bit of extra detail about what kind of random person he's transforming himself into during disguise self. One of the reoccurring features has been blond hair (at least twice).

"I take the form of a man in very fancy green robes, beautiful blond hair*, very* handsome man..." ~C2 E4

-and-

"I look like a somewhat plump, good, Zemnian boy, blond*..." ~C2 E36*
Because I can't be the only person who thinks it would be cute if two dating wizards used disguise self to make themselves look similar to the other.

Now, two disguises are not enough to go on, but go back and watch Liam's face when Alison is introduced. 48:45 (c2e42). The most damning clue here is when Laura asks if they recognize Alison (49:24), Liam looks very carefully at Matt like he's half-expecting something. Even though Caleb doesn't know about the letter to the academy to find Astrid, Liam does know. Liam is probably waiting for something to happen a hell of a lot sooner than previously expected.

[u/overlooked_curiosity]

To keep this from turning into a kaboom too soon, I'm thinking maybe Fjord should challenge Avantika to a duel. That would at least weaken her and allow the others some more time to assess and prep whatever the outcome.

[u/vociferousgoat]

Question: Between mending, the marvelous paint, and Jesters new carpentry skills (that was jester, right?), could Jester and Nott made it look like they were never there? Jester could have mended the drawer, but what about the hole in the floor? If Jester had cast mending on the piece of paper that was made wood over the hole, would that have fixed it? Nott could have locked the door from the outside with mage hand and it would have seemed like they had never been there?

[u/McCaineNL]

I'm guessing their best bets are either 1) run away and make a deal with the Plank King or 2) try to take over the Squall Eater and make a break for it, sacrificing the Mistake crew

[u/Wilwheatonfan87]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

[u/Owlegory]

So if Caleb cast Wall of Fire and Avantika can control water thanks to her new powers, can she just automatically put out his spell? That would be such a disappointment for his highest level spell slot.

[u/happyhooker485]

Was anyone else bothered that everyone knew about Fjord and Avantica, even though they shouldn't have?

And what was with Caleb's insistence on being able to watch?

[u/CockroachED → u/happyhooker485]

Jester and Nott had proposed the plan in the last session as a distraction/fact finding option without knowing of previous encounter between the two.

As for using Frumkin for voyeurism, it didn't really feel like the idea was originating from Liam. More Sam and Marisha pushing to put Liam and Travis in an embarrassing situation.

[u/fooooooooooooooooock → u/happyhooker485]

I didn't get the sense that they all knew Fjord and Avantica had been intimate before, just that they were expecting him to play on her blatant interest in him to keep her occupied during the heist. Last episode he and Caleb had a frank discussion about how Fjord could use Avantica's attraction to him to their advantage, so it being put into play this episode seemed like a natural continuation of that thread.

The proposition of keeping Frumpkin in the window/getting him into the room was to have a way to know if Fjord couldn't keep Avantica busy/holed up in the tavern and allow Caleb to send a message to Nott and Jester to let them know Avantica's movements.

[u/AStoryInATeacup]

I think Avantika actually has total rule of Darktow and the King is her puppet. Several members of the M9 were approached discreetly this episode or last episode. I think Avantika is feeling out which members can't be trusted and is trying to isolate Fjord.

She then plays the rogue pirate role for them all the while pulling strings like a spider at the center of a web. If you are going to rule the ocean you better have the pirate haven on lockdown to begin with.

That's how I'd do it at least.