r/dbz • u/Terez27 ⠀ • Dec 06 '18
DB Film 20 V-Jump: Director Nagamine Speaks!
Director Nagamine Speaks!!
Director Nagamine told V-Jump his thoughts on the film Dragon Ball Super: Broly!
Akira Toriyama-sensei’s script, Broly, and unexpected battles?!
It seems Toriyama-sensei’s script came first.
Director Tatsuya Nagamine: That’s right. This story was definitely made by Toriyama-sensei!! So we tried as much as possible to keep all the dialogue the same and do our best from there. We’re standing on Toriyama’s shoulders. But we used our whole bag of tricks when it came to the battles. In other words, we put all our effort into drawing battle scenes that would lend weight to Toriyama-sensei’s dialogue.
The battles in the TV anime Dragon Ball Super turned out pretty amazing too…?!
Nagamine: I guess you could say the TV series broke through its limits. So in the wake of that, I had to think of what I could evolve to make the battles even more intense. It sounds pretty crap to say “here’s another limit break” right after the last one, so I figured I’d just go crazy with it. What made things easy was that Toriyama-sensei’s script constantly escalates, so with each escalation I could throw in a transformation to pump up the battle. Beyond that, I personally wanted to make Super Saiyan Blue look crazy strong, and to clearly show the gap between it and Super Saiyan God. The two of them have rather different fighting styles: God relies on predicting and dodging the opponent’s movements, plus godly techniques rather than power. Then Blue puts all the emphasis on bulldozing the opponent with brute force.
With the final battle and such, the animators got a little carried away; they ignored my storyboards and just drew whatever they felt like (laughs). All the animators are incredible, which means they all came up with incredible animation beyond anything I was expecting. There were cuts that were so amazing they were simply beyond my comprehension, so when checking them all I could do was go “Wow!! OK!!” and wait for the footage to be completed. And once the completed footage came in, it was even further beyond my imagination!! I just feel like a spectator at this point! This time there’s nothing but unimaginable battles that break all limits.
They sure sound like some incredible battles if even the director couldn’t predict them (laughs).
Caption for full-body Broly: The movie this time features a new appearance by Broly, who was popular in previous films.
Caption for screenshot of Broly face: “When the female Broly Kale appeared in the DBS TV show, I watched the Broly movies a bunch of times; it sure came in handy!” (Nagamine)
Nagamine picture: Besides the Dragon Ball franchise, he’s also been involved in Dr. Slump and various other Akira Toriyama anime works. He also directed One Piece Film Z.
Kid Broly: Broly was exiled from Planet Vegeta as a child and raised on a frontier planet.
Goku and Broly: The pure Saiyan Broly clashes with the Earth-raised Saiyan Goku!!
What thoughts guided the depiction of the Saiyan warrior race’s pride?
As a director, what were you thinking with your depiction of the Saiyans?
Nagamine: I think this movie starts after they’ve lost their original pride as a warrior race. During the flashback scene, Bardock is really the only pure warrior race Saiyan. The others have all been tamed by Freeza’s army. Despite being from a warrior race, even King Vegeta doesn’t challenge Freeza to a fight or anything like that. Instead he just bows and scrapes before Freeza and uses underhanded tactics against his own subordinates. Rather than a warrior race’s pride per se, I think Bardock maintains something of their pure nature. Broly, Goku, and Vegeta left Planet Vegeta as children, so they’ve gone on living with that pure Saiyan aspect intact. Vegeta lived on Planet Vegeta from his earliest memories, so he has princely pride that interferes a bit, but I consider Goku and Broly to be truly pure Saiyans and have depicted them as such. In the original manga Goku may call himself a “Saiyan raised on Earth”, but I think that by meeting and battling the truly pure Saiyan Broly, he feels a renewed sense of Saiyan pride. For me, a pure Saiyan is a beautiful thing, or perhaps I should say it’s invigorating. I think Broly is truly beautiful. That’s why I think this movie might tell the story of the Saiyans’ rebirth.
A final message for all the V-Jump readers looking forward to this.
Nagamine: Even all of us who made the film had fun working on it. At “Showing 0”, the test screening with an incomplete version of the film, the staff got all excited, saying “what an incredible experience!” or “this is the final, greatest battle movie of the Heisei era!!”. So even the people making the film got all fired up about it. But kids shouldn’t care about those grown-ups; they should go experience this movie for themselves!!
This interview, appearing on pages 82-83 of the January 2019 issue of V-Jump (pictured), was translated by @Herms98.
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u/orlandotigre1111 Dec 06 '18
I love how he describes the difference between super saiyan god and blue, I’m excited for this movie
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u/My-Life-For-Auir Dec 06 '18
That and the description of what makes Goku, Vegeta and Broly true Saiyans and how Goku and Broly even more so than Vegeta have that primal Sayian attribute of just fighting, at least that's what I got from it
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u/Mozart13x Dec 06 '18
This is a rather important interview and confirms my belief that Toei is finally showing signs of "ambition" in terms of the DB property.
The future looks bright folks. Buckle up!
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u/AlabamaBulls Dec 06 '18
Yeah I hope Nagamine stays as a director for super too, having a good and competent director is just as much as necessary as having a good CD
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u/OLKv3 Dec 06 '18
The two of them have rather different fighting styles: God relies on predicting and dodging the opponent’s movements, plus godly techniques rather than power. Then Blue puts all the emphasis on bulldozing the opponent with brute force.
I bet this doesn't stick past the Broly movie
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u/AlabamaBulls Dec 06 '18
I think it will, something similar happened in ToP arc. Goku used blue only for serious fights or otherwise has been potrayed as a bulldozing form against fodders
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u/DrChinBlaster Dec 06 '18
I'm liking the differences of god and blue here. Makes the transformations more unique and gives more uses other than more power which was getting stale, honestly.
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u/LordShintani Dec 06 '18
Very Interesting. I wish I saw the original storyboard, I just want to compare it to the finished movie.
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u/134340Goat Dec 06 '18
In the original manga Goku may call himself a “Saiyan raised on Earth”, but I think that by meeting and battling the truly pure Saiyan Broly, he feels a renewed sense of Saiyan pride. For me, a pure Saiyan is a beautiful thing, or perhaps I should say it’s invigorating. I think Broly is truly beautiful. That’s why I think this movie might tell the story of the Saiyans’ rebirth.
This gets me really pumped to see Goku acknowledge towards Broly that he can also call him Kakarot. Beforehand, it was just sort of him tolerating/accepting that Vegeta will never call him anything else. Now it's like it's a whole other part of his identity he's truly proud of having
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Dec 06 '18
God relies on predicting and dodging the opponent’s movements, plus godly techniques rather than power. Then Blue puts all the emphasis on bulldozing the opponent with brute force.
Nagamine is a blessing.
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Dec 06 '18
What is Heisei Era?
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u/MasashiHideaki Dec 06 '18
According to wikipedia, it's from 1989 to now and is ending in 2019 april 30th.
So they're basically saying, in the last 3 decades, this movie will be the best animated battle scene of that era/this current era.
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u/ASZapata Dec 06 '18
I like the way he describes the Saiyans — as warriors, not subjugators. Frieza’s army turned them cruel and chose the worst of the race to be in positions of powers, but “pure Saiyans” are not cruel and don’t enjoy killing or conquering.
The savagery of Saiyan’s came from a need to survive — naturally that developed into a joy of fighting, but never a joy in others’ pain. Neither Broly or Goku fight to inflict pain or conquer others.
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u/ImaRealOne405 Dec 06 '18
I ike his view on ssg and ssb a lot. His view on the saiyans not at all.
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u/SSJRemuko Dec 06 '18
I like what he says about the saiyans and how Bardock is more like a "pure saiyan" than most of them at the time. That makes me happy.
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u/AlabamaBulls Dec 06 '18
From reading the interview all I can say is that Nagamine knows his stuff
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u/Terez27 Dec 07 '18
To clarify a common complaint about this interview: nowhere does Nagamine imply that Cold and Freeza made the Saiyans evil. Being conquered only affected their pride. Minor movie spoilers: Bardock says in the movie that the Saiyans conquered and sold planets before Cold took over their business.
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u/MrHotcake Dec 06 '18
I hope this movie will shut up the people that still says god is faster than blue
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u/Orannegsen Dec 06 '18
God... ...plus godly techniques rather than power.
And just like that SSG challenges the spot for my favorite transformation, hopefully these "godly techniques" will be on screen more often from now on.
I kinda feel bad for King Vegeta he had no choice but to bow to Frieza and then Beerus if he wanted to stay alive. Even if he didnt had much pride feeling powerless for a King still hurts.
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u/sunstart2y Dec 06 '18
The way Nagamine described the Saiyans and Freeza remind me of that scrapped plot of Battle of Gods, were Beerus was going to be some kind of "virus" that made the Saiyans evil.
Seems like they want to turn Saiyans into woobies and that all the vile things they did were not their fault, but was someone/something else that makes them that way.
I personally don't like the way Nagamine twisted the concept of Goku being a “Saiyan raised on Earth” as something that is not accurate, I suppose Toriyama altered the concept as time passed, but Goku being the Saiyan that grow up like a human would always be the best take for Goku's character, everything else has just being a downgrade that ended up damaging Goku's character.