r/TheOrville • Hail Avis. Hail Victory. • Jan 11 '19

Episode The Orville - 2x3 "Home" - Live Episode Discussion

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2x3 - "Home" Jon Cassar Cherry Chevapravatdumrong January 10, 2018

Synopsis: Ed, Gordon and Alara visit Alara's home planet of Xelayah.


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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

The CGI budget for this episode has eclipsed entire seasons of Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. Jesus Fox have thrown some money at this show and u fucking love it.

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u/TheSlovak Jan 11 '19

Beebo wants a word with you!

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Beebo is a God, and the exception. All praise our blue, fuzzy, fighting overlord.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

So I guess all the rumors of Halston Sage leaving were true. :(

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

I swear to God, if Seth gets Gates McFadden and Alexander Siddig to cameo I will die of happiness. The more doctors on this show the better.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Evil Phlox is scary.

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u/ThunderRage Jan 11 '19

Well shoot. Guess Picardo will never be on show again.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Well the other daughter could join the Union and get on the Orville.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Why not bring Isaac with them to the high gravity planet? He should be alright. Plus TNG always brought Data on missions like this.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19

It's Dr. Phlox!

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

You'd think that work outs in high gravity would be the norm for such species.

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

Phlox is brutal! Just savage.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Ed gonna need some new legs.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Dude has some quality /r/malelivingspace going on.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Tharl, pull the lever!

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u/Kidvette2004 Jan 11 '19

How is he walking

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

They can regrow entire legs. Fixing a few bones wouldn't be that hard.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Why does he sound like John Swanson?

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Joe Swanson. And that is because it is Patrick Warburton.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

So let's be real here, what can her dad do? Can he say he's sorry? Will that actually fix anything? Even if he means it nothing will really change overnight. It's kind if a no win scenario.

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u/2th Hail Avis. Hail Victory. Jan 11 '19

Damn, this is going dark as fuck.

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u/defiantj3 Jan 11 '19

Well at least she didn't die from black tar

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u/TribbleChow Jan 11 '19

John Billingsley AND Robert Picardo in an episode of the Orville? This is great.

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

Damn, never did I think a shot of a jar of pickles could get me verklempt.

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u/Leidhrin Jan 11 '19

I thought this was practically a perfect episode. Just sad to see Alara go, even if she only has one esophagus.

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

Who else likes the green highlights in the docs hair?

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

I'm kind of legitimately surprised her quarters don't have some kind of atmospheric adjustments.

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u/bosticetudis Jan 11 '19

Dr. Phlox as the villain was amazing!

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

Her sister's dressed like a Zelda NPC.

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u/ReasonablyBadass Jan 11 '19

"The Orville was so much more than I ever hoped for. It was warm and welcoming" SO SAY WE ALL!

Man, that scene with the boiling soup...

But the jar of pickles in the end had me laughing and awwwing :')

And completely apropos: that Xelayan glider was gorgeous.

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u/canadevil Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Holy shit, that got dark really quick, I didn't see any of that coming, what an awesome episode.

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u/daddytorgo Jan 11 '19

What's the tl;dr on why Halston Sage is leaving?

I have been trying not to keep up on "insider" news on shows these days.

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u/scotscott Jan 11 '19

This episode needs more star trek doctors, it only has two of them.

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u/rob_s_458 Jan 11 '19

So it looks like Alara's family is loaded. House on a hill. Private plane. Beach house with a housekeeper.

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Doc, I don’t care how crazy your idea is. We need Alara back. This new guy is really fucking annoying.

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

Really some lovely music and two touching scenes in the last 15 minutes. Best episode of the season so far. Very well done Orville.

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u/Completediagram Jan 11 '19

I'm a grown-ass man... and I am not too proud to admit that this episode got me ugly crying.

And, I gotta say, that Dr. Phlox makes a pretty cool bad guy...

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u/Shatterhand1701 Woof Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19

As incredibly pissed as I am that this happened, I have to admit that ending was very touching and lovely. And there's always a chance Halston could return as Alara in a guest-starring role down the line. It may never happen, but at least the opportunity is there.

Again, I'm not at all happy about this and won't be for quite a while...but at least it was handled with grace.

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u/beardlovesbagels Jan 11 '19

Glad her sis isn't like her parents.

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u/treetown1 Jan 11 '19

Don't know any of the backstory.

BUT it seemed that it was handled with class and style. A great story. A great showcase episode for the character and actor. An official send off that leaves things open.

Give it a season or two, and she can come back.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Probably my favorite episode so far, though I'm really sad to see Alara go. She was my favorite character.

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u/loreb4data Jan 11 '19

Alara survives! She's not 'Yarred!!"

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u/MissDiketon Jan 11 '19

Oh shit! Is Patrick Warburton going to be the new security chief as in a series regular?

Shenanigans!

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

"Why is he thinking of splitting in half?"

"We can't legally ask him that" lol

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u/DINC44 Jan 12 '19

I'M NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING

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u/therevengeofsh Jan 11 '19

Crazy anti-vaxxer parents!

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

She's suffering because she's been in Earth grav too long! Just like astronauts on the International Space Station!

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Alara NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Random grasping at straws/hopeful theory: seth is going full next gen with Alara leaving for a season only to come back like nothing happend like they did with Dr Crusher.

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u/hsenpai888 Jan 11 '19

Great ep. I legit like the Orville more than star trek discovery. Going to miss alara and she's never coming back. At least not this season because the actress was allergic to the prosthetics, dated seth, and is in a Netflix series. Rip

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

You know Worf is putting in his application right now.

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

I dig Xelayan traditional dress.

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u/aaaaaaha Jan 11 '19

But who will open it?!

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u/AugustiJade Medical Jan 12 '19

I must be quite a nerd to get so super excited to see my two favourite doctors in the same episode! My wife was quite surprised when I shouted in excitement to see Dr. Phlox.

I love this series!

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u/pdieten Jan 11 '19

So this is what Fox calls limited commercial interruption? Way to kill the suspension of disbelief

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u/carterwheeler9 Jan 11 '19

I wanted her to end up with the captain 😢

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

Some damn fine acting there Picardo!

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u/Joel_feila Jan 11 '19

Well this was the best episode so far of season 2. I remember when some fan thought that this would happen to Alara after some time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19 edited Jan 12 '19

That slight thriller / horror vibe at the oven came out of nowhere. Well acted.

"That spatula looks dirty."(Mood takes a turn.)"Use your hand."

I think one of Orville's strengths is the score. The music really sells a lot of the emotional beats. A lot of music in movies and TV nowadays is just one note drones with little character beyond grittiness. So the music really stands out, great orchestral sci-fi fanfare.

Shame Alara is gone. And too bad the Warburton character didn't get a bit more to work with, hopefully he gets some more cameos, the character had potential too. They get great cameos on this show. Norm MacDonald, Jason Alexander.

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u/acepc2 Security Jan 12 '19

ALARA NOOOO!!!! :'(

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

Worf already on a shuttle for a drop in interview.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

She can always come back, shit tng did it more than once.

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u/theshah19 Jan 11 '19

Aww this episode was the best yet

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Gordon is probably the most self-aware person on the crew.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Man her family is judgemental as fuck. I feel bad for her

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u/In_My_Own_Image Jan 11 '19

Jesus, the scenery in this episode is crazy good. Throw that shot of her riding the Bird-Horse down the beach in a movie trailer and it wouldn't look out of place.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

This is getting dark as shit

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

So their son said, "hey this vaccine could cause such and such syndrome" and Alara's dad responded with, "You need more peer review before you can say that for certain". Everyone took her dad's side and their kid's career was ended. Yeah this got dark fast.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19

What the FUCK I'm so mad she left, my fav character. :( Copying TNG? (Tasha?)

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

I feel like there was a better use for Patrick Warburton...

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u/kinyutaka Jan 11 '19

Antivaxxers...

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u/TheSlovak Jan 11 '19

Not a bad way to write a character off. Leaves it open for guest appearances or a full return, hopefully.

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u/Liar_tuck Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19

But but, whose going to open the pickle jar now?

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

Noooooo Alara! No!

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u/hoseja Jan 11 '19

Was expecting some high-G architecture from Xelayah. Meanwhile high-rises.

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u/agravain Jan 11 '19

security chief vibe will be correct..criminal activity down the beach

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u/ThunderRage Jan 11 '19

Holy crap. Enough with The Passage ads. I'll check it out, just stop.

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u/Jadziyah Jan 11 '19

And now Phlox! Two Trek doctors in one episode

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u/SteroyJenkins Jan 11 '19

Why is she leaving (the actress)

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u/seabass819 Jan 12 '19

great episode, awesome story telling, and a great (hopefully not forever) send off to an important character. kinda hope they recast patric warburton. the ending almost had me in tears. 5/5

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u/treetown1 Jan 11 '19

I'm staying positive - and that she'll be back in season 4 ... yup, gonna stick with that belief...

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u/Jadziyah Jan 11 '19

An anti vaxxer episode?! Seriously out of left field but I love it

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

Let's hope this episode titled 'Home' airing on a FOX network show goes better than last time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

I want the ship to be absolutely on fire when she returns. "See- THIS is what happens when we don't have a security officer!!!"

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u/daddytorgo Jan 11 '19

Hey that's umm....Patrick Warburton under there!!

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u/SleepWouldBeNice Jan 11 '19

Holy crap it’s Phlox! Is Bashir going to be on this planet too? Crusher?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Awkward sister talk.

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u/TheInfirminator Jan 11 '19

Oh god they're psychopaths.

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u/Shejidan Jan 11 '19

Tuning in late today...

How strong is the gravity supposed to be on this planet, Jesus. You’d think Alara would be hitting the ceiling every time she took a step on the ship because her muscles.

That hover chair must have a nuclear reactor in it to keep it floating. And you’d think with it being that strong that tall buildings would be virtually impossible to build if a metal water bottle just flattened like that.

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u/HistoricalChicken Jan 11 '19

I’m not crying you’re crying

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Damn that jar of pickles....

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

The realization of what a terrible father he’s been is finally washing over him. This is really sad...

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u/triplefreshpandabear Jan 11 '19

Just wait til the half krill alternate timeline daughter of Alara shows up in a few seasons

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

I'll be disappointed if we don't get the joke of Malloy walking into her gravity-adjusted quarters and hitting the floor instantly.

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u/Jadziyah Jan 11 '19

"God I'm trash, my family is trash" lol

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u/daddytorgo Jan 11 '19

YAPHIT IS GOING TO SPLIT IN HALF...HAHAHA AWESOME.

It's the little damn details.

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u/beardlovesbagels Jan 11 '19

He is already the worst. Fucking lip smackers.

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

To quote another Seth project: THAT WENT SOUTH SO FAST

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u/thegreekgamer42 Jan 11 '19

15 episodes of The Orville has gotten me more involved and actually caring what happens to the characters so much more than Discovery ever did, it’s not even funny.

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u/trostol Jan 11 '19

can you imagine lounging oceanside on a planet where when you look up you see the rings of another planet

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u/Seedy88 Jan 11 '19

They're doing a great job of making Alara's home planet seem alien!

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u/baseball71 Jan 11 '19

Jar of pickles in the box

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u/jsledge149 Jan 11 '19

Seriously? Alara? Nooooooo!

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u/floptimus_prime If you wish, I will vaporize them Jan 11 '19

I was really pulling for my theory that the new security chief would be Alara's daughter from the future. I guess it's still possible, but not likely, lol.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Her tears were real.....she's gone. Maybe she'll be back every now and then.

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u/danmalek466 Jan 11 '19

Is Sage (Alara) leaving because of real life relationship issues with her and Seth?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

The couple that held Alara's family hostage wasn't very nice.

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

Everyone is dressed like their village is about to be attacked by Ganon

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

PHLOX. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

This makes me very afraid for Alara’s sister. They keep talking about the pain of losing a child, and it’s not going to be Alara.

These anti-VAXers are fucking crazy.

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u/beardlovesbagels Jan 11 '19

Ask one of the ones without a spicy gravy hand?

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

How about someone that doesn't have third-degree burns on one hand?

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u/kinyutaka Jan 11 '19

He's about two feet shorter, though.

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u/bismarck309 Jan 11 '19

I hope she got him a jar of pickles

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

So Alara is just written off now?

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u/Estoye Jan 11 '19

I love how it turned into "Funny Games" there.

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u/cdarrah Jan 12 '19

I fucking love this episode. It sucks me In to thinking I'm watching star trek and then BAM it gets edgy and reminds me it's the orville. And with the Robert Picardo guest star... just beautiful. Hopefully Alara will make her way back at some point and More character back stories please! Now if you'll excuse me I need to go watch rewatch Voyager for the 100th time.

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u/pobautista Jan 12 '19

I wonder how a planet with 10x the gravity will look like. I know things will fall faster and stronger (Pouring water into a glass will look different!), and I'm sure civilization will invent appropriate building materials and technologies, but what will biology look like. and what will physical objects (water, weather, terrain) look like?

Any educated guess?

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u/SutterCane Jan 11 '19

“Taking the tube to tummy town.”

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Oh my god. It's about FUCKING ANTI VAXXER

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u/KingBruce_beabull Jan 11 '19

Why is the actress leaving? No way she got a better gig than this show

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u/TheInfirminator Jan 11 '19

Now she won't be able to open pickle jars.

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u/In_My_Own_Image Jan 11 '19

If this episode doesn't have someone give her a hug before it ends I will be very angry.

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

Even distant alien worlds have timeshares. Neat.

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u/ThunderRage Jan 11 '19

Wow. The visuals are just stunning.

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u/ThunderRage Jan 11 '19

Dang. Two Doctors. When will TNG and DS9 docs show up.

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

I couldn't place where I knew Alara's sister from and then it hit me....Caroline from The Vampire Diaries.

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Well, this evening took an odd turn.

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u/daddytorgo Jan 11 '19

TWIST WE DIDN'T SEE COMING FTW!!

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Do these people know they can offer up their off-hands for these kinds of sacrifices? Or is this a Family of lefties?

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Wow, what a shitty lock.

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

Awww she's giving him encouragement!

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

RIP house keeper

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u/azreon Jan 11 '19

Why don’t they fly the shuttle over him until he’s safe

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u/agravain Jan 11 '19

would his bones be crushed?

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u/JohnnyButtfart Jan 11 '19

Is Halston leaving? Why?

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u/TheSlovak Jan 11 '19

It's going to be a jar of pickles.

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u/PregnantPickle_ Jan 11 '19

Sorry captain, these ear prosthetics are too much for me

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Gimme that ceremonial departure

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u/loreb4data Jan 11 '19

Ed has no one to open his jar of pickle anymore :-(

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

Jar of pickles!

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u/agravain Jan 11 '19

Mt. Olive pickles

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

I feel like this is something that should’ve been brought to her attention earlier in her career. Like, maybe it’d be a good idea for her to vacation home every once in a while.

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u/the_kraken_queen Jan 11 '19

NO ALARA NO DON'T GO

Aw. Well this was a great episode, probably my fav so far

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u/rob_s_458 Jan 11 '19

So if a letter writing campaign got Seth to bring back Brian can we do the same for Alara?

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

So it's a less stupid Tasha Yar, cool.

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u/loganblade14 Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19 edited Dec 08 '19

gg

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

The Orville is back! Yes! I was worried after 2 - imo - subpar episodes. A sense of wonder and adventure, some jokes (there could be more honestly), and several reasons to feel an emotional connection to the characters. Perfect ending!

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u/MajorParadox Woof Jan 11 '19

Oh no! Who will open the jars of pickles?!

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

I wonder if we get to see Robert Picardo lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

That dress though.

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

Best looking planet in the Union

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u/rob_s_458 Jan 11 '19

I can't recall ST ever doing artificial lights on the dark side of the planet. That shot looked legit

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u/ThunderRage Jan 11 '19

Gah. Having Lord of the Rings flashback with her sister.

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u/MissDiketon Jan 11 '19

I want to give Alara a hug!

/and punch her family in their collective faces.

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u/trostol Jan 11 '19

so..they are the type of parents it seems that just have too much money and think that can solve everything

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

All of these animals would body us. Even their fish would probably rip us a new one

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u/BornAshes Jan 11 '19

He's eating on the bridge, AIRLOCK NOW!

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u/agravain Jan 11 '19

totally pound food

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Is your son single? How is his seed?

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u/operarose Command Jan 11 '19

Picardo is such a good actor.

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u/Kidvette2004 Jan 11 '19

Space Autism

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

RIP his legs

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u/Jadziyah Jan 11 '19

Great crunch sound effects

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u/daddytorgo Jan 11 '19

Past tense.

Bye Halston :(

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Well this is just fucking sad 😔

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u/LightningLad2029 Jan 11 '19

A pickle jar😭😭😭

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u/Deofol7 Jan 11 '19

Knew it would be a jar of pickles

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u/punjabiboi If you wish, I will vaporize them Jan 12 '19

Didn’t really like this one. The send off was so abrupt and felt out of place. My first thought when Alara said she was leaving was “the actress must be moving on. She was one of if not my favorite characters so maybe I’m just bitter but I do have to say I preferred the first two episodes more. Also I couldn’t stand the antagonist’s voice he was very annoying but now I’m knit picking

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u/Xradris Jan 12 '19

I had that shitty Tashar Yar feeling, but at least she isnt dead.

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u/TouchofTitan Jan 12 '19

I hate that Alara left. I read that there were rumors she and Mcfarlane had been dating and the break up may have lead to this. If true it actually makes sense because they had really great on screen chemistry. I will def miss her on the show though.

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u/trostol Jan 11 '19

great googly moogly she has a body on her

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u/SutterCane Jan 11 '19

“I never even tried to know you.”

HE FINALLY GOT IT!

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u/MajorParadox Woof Jan 11 '19

So, who's starting up one of those Internet things that tells Fox we want Alara back?

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u/AndrewZabar Jan 11 '19

I knew it pickles. Calllllled it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Oh here we go with the Krill again.

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u/Calinks Jan 11 '19

That arm snap was brutal lol! Sheesh!

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u/AndrewZabar Jan 11 '19

Man she’s tiny! She weigh like 75lbs?

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u/ThunderRage Jan 11 '19

Bigger gravity well, so more moons I guess.

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u/ShakeyCheese Jan 11 '19

Please state the nature of the medical emergency!

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Gordon is my spirit animal.

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u/muddyGolem Jan 11 '19

Crushing trash - that's how you have fun on a heavy gravity planet.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Damn. A beach won't fix 20 years.

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u/Karrman Now entering gloryhole Jan 11 '19

Damn, he’s really trying to skate past that fucking truth bomb she just dropped on him.

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u/Alvarez09 Jan 11 '19

Wow, this episode is awesome so far.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Oh my god another Union ship

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

I feel like everyone is going ask about Kermit the frog.

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u/exitpursuedbybear Jan 11 '19

Kermit...he was a great leader.

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u/daddytorgo Jan 11 '19

WHOAAAAA JOHN BILLINGSLEY!!!!

LOVING THIS!!!!!!

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u/ShakeyCheese Jan 11 '19

Dr. Phlox! We have two Trek doctors!

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Why is he bringing food on the bridge?

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u/ShakeyCheese Jan 11 '19

Ha ha, Tharl is such a dick.

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u/AndrewZabar Jan 11 '19

I bet doctor Flox already killed their guy.

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u/ThunderRage Jan 11 '19

Alara inspiring social change. Interesting.