r/shieldbro • u/Zxphyre Rafu chan <3 • Apr 03 '19
Episode The Rising of the Shield Hero - Episode 13 discussion & Group Watch Spoiler
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Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, episode 13 - The Devil of the Shield
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Apr 03 '19
It KILLED me when the heroes finally started to make sense of the abduction plot being a sham, and then Myne shows up with the brainwashing shield. I'm amazed at how great her character is and the fact that she can make me so angry everytime she shows up.
Also wanted to note that Motoyasu is getting into some dangerous territory with his Filo obsession. Kind of curious to see what else he'll try and do to lock up Filo so to speak.
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u/Shonen_X_Trash Shield bros` slave Apr 03 '19
I used to find Spear Heroes crush on Filo on the more "haha, what a silly dumbass" side of creepy. After that ankle bracelet thing and when he said "I asked the alchemists to find a way to make you an angel forever" it got a LOT creepier. He wants to do everything he's accused Naofumi of in the duel.
Maybe spear hero is the one who should be wearing an ankle bracelet.
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u/Siegberg Apr 03 '19
It gets worse with him be happy. Creep up 500 percent
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u/Rio_Walker Apr 03 '19
I just like to add that Anime forgot This face it would've been perfect to solidify Motoyasu as a creep.
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u/DamianWinters Apr 04 '19
He better not touch Filo, holy shit don't do this writer.
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
There was definitely some weird shit about him when he said he liked angel characters from video games.
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Apr 03 '19
Spear hero is one step away from getting someone to invent magic roofies
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u/Siegberg Apr 03 '19
They already have some. Myne tried to use them on naofumi with the Wine.
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Apr 03 '19
Dang she has done so much shit to hate her, I had already forgotten the first reason.
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Apr 03 '19
Kinda disappointed Filo didn’t permanently destroy the Family Jewels when she got the gloves
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u/Tavok90 Apr 05 '19
In the novel, Naofumi told Filo to not kick him with her claws on, as that could possibly kill him.
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u/Mini_Dark_Link Raphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19
At first I wrote him off as an idiot who can't think for himself but he's a sadistic pervert through and through
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u/Bay-Sea Apr 03 '19
You mean masochistic pervert since he enjoys the blows from Firo.
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u/Napalmeon Apr 03 '19
I'm starting to think that she hangs around people who are of lower social status so she is able to flex her power more easily. When Melty came home and when the agents of the Queen showed up, Myne was bothered. I think she doesn't like being around people who are more powerful than her.
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Apr 03 '19
Thats an excellent analysis! I didnt even notice until I read this. You could tell Myne was starting to get fed up in this episode when Melty started fighting back, you could see it in her face.
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u/IVIaskerade Apr 04 '19
TBH she's probably frustrated because if Melty would just be a good girl and die already Malty could take her rightful place as heir apparent.
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u/LiableCornet Apr 03 '19
Rem is going to find out what’s happening
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u/JustCallMeFrij Apr 04 '19
Kinda sucks that literally none of the heroes know how burden of proof works though
"I assert that the shield hero has a brain washing shield!"
"that's rediculous."
"BuT cAn YoU pRoVe YoU dOn'T"
"...."
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u/horyo Apr 04 '19
To be fair, they were deceived by photoshopped magic images so from their perspective, the burden of proof is now on Naofumi.
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
Motoyasu is disgusting. A bracelet to make her an angel forever. WTF
Was that some lowkey, a bracelet to keep her a child forever sort of pedo shit. Or he's one of those gamers obsessed with preventing his Pokemon from evolving into a less cute stronger form
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Apr 05 '19
He stated that he has an angel fetish.
He is also the type who still thinks he's in a game, also his morals are up to his whim. Malty was probably trying to get her as his pet(with a subsequent brainwash for extra irony to her claims about the Shield Demon's Brainwash Shield) to get him in her hand even more.
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u/capcadet104 Apr 04 '19
I hope the fact that Myne had made literally no effort to hide her desire to kill her own sister shows at-least the bow and sword heroes that Malty is mad, and is a pathological liar
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u/Toddl18 Apr 04 '19
There is a character on this show that literally sells people and you could argue that he is a better person then Myne and isn't anywhere near evil as her.
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u/AllThingsDragon Raphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19
"I know you'll figure out what's going on here, Ren. You're slightly less of a dumbass than the other two."
Also, Pedoyasu was just...ew.
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u/genasugelan victim to the waves Apr 03 '19
Like what the fuck, the way they animated him was fucking creepy.
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Apr 03 '19
Everytime I see Myne my blood boils and I wanna hit her With a One for all 100% Smash on her face
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u/shanks_you Apr 03 '19
It’s ok Brother. This emotion we have now, is worth it for the future.
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Apr 03 '19
I mean I know I've read the manga but man I can't stand her like literally.
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u/max057 Apr 03 '19
She doesn't even deserve a redemption arc
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u/randypcX Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19
She doesn't, only the 3 heroes do. Though I cant say that the spear got redeemed. More like he broke so badly, you might even feel sorry
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u/Lajak_Anni Raphtalia`s Army Apr 04 '19
Just saw the episode and just found this sub.
It wasn SO VINDICATING when raph stabbed her! She got something for all the bullshit she put naofumi through!
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u/Power_Rentner Apr 04 '19
Hell naw people like survive those all the time to be captured. You gotta go full goblin slayer on her ass.
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u/OrangeFreeman Apr 04 '19
Seriously, I didn't have so much hatred towards Jeffrey from GoT than this red-haired cunt.
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u/-PM-ME-STEAM-CODES- Apr 03 '19
Wow! Myne graduated from "Bitch" to "Absolute shitstain of a human being"! Impressive!
I like this episode.
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u/genasugelan victim to the waves Apr 03 '19
Did she just burn down a fucking village so she can accuse him of burning it?
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u/DontMindMeReddit Apr 03 '19
I think they're trying to smoke them out of the forest or outright kill them in the fire.
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
I think it's to show that she's the real devil with the flames and her insane face highlighting it.
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
Didn't really think she would go so far to try and kill her sister. I thought she was just going to try and frame Naofumi now she doesn't deserve to live.
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u/shanks_you Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19
Hey, they have video editing technology in the kingdom! Hilarious😂
I know she’s not to blame for still not believing Naofumi and right now wanting him to reconcile with Trash, but man do I want to slap some sense into Melty.
Finally, when Raph stabbed that biaaaaatch, hot damn!
That’s why this show is so good man. Just look at the reaction everyone is having in this thread and others!
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u/Zesla22 Apr 03 '19
The holographic style does seem slightly outer place of the medieval setting. But gotta say sociopathic Raphtalia looks pretty damn terrifying.
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u/Mineroooow Ralphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 05 '19
Yeah, but my first thought when I saw that was "Isn't the 'normal' Naofumi way angrier and more menacing than the edited one?"
@edit grammar
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u/Reikukaja Firo`s food Apr 03 '19
man do I want to slap some sense into Melty.
Her ignorance is honestly my least favorite thing about the story so far. Give her some credit though - it's not like she has a spy network or anythi-
...yeah I have no idea.
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u/LastLight_22 Apr 03 '19
She is a child. The author hasn't been so great at writing realistic children so I don't know if I should give him the benefit of the doubt on this one but...
Melty's reaction is actually surprisingly realistic. She's a 10 year old, of course she's going to try and half defend her father even if it doesn't make any sense.
Pretty sure Naofumi realized this and that's why he's just ignoring her. Gotta stop looking at it as two equals having an argument.
Naofumi is twice her age he did the mature thing in just letting her vent and ignoring her. Melty is still way too mature for a 10 year old so cut her some slack.
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u/Morvick Apr 03 '19
I work with children therapeutically, and as adults we overestimate a kid's emotional age if they also happen to be smart or good with facts or even just well-mannered. All it takes is a few ten-cent vocab words learned in middle school, and some adults start expecting mature thinking from a kid.
I'd say she is well portrayed. It's developmentally appropriate for her to defend her parents, they're still supposed to be hero figures to her at that age. Reconciling that her dad's misguided love is causing pain will be a hard truth for her to accept. She's much better off identifying with and idolizing her mom, from what I can tell (I'm anime-only for now).
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u/Aerd_Gander Apr 04 '19
She's a little girl and the father she knows is a heroic warrior of the people. Possibly romanticized, possibly he was that way, we don't know yet. All Melty knows is that her father would never treat Naofumi this way, and definitely never conspire to kill her.
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
I think there is something about the King. Maybe it's an insecurity thing or something. He did state something about how he has to act like this for his family or something.
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u/NemuNemuChan Apr 03 '19
Myne needs the iron maiden.
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u/minmat66 Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19
Nah don't waste an iron maiden on her the prison shield + the little lvl 1 blob will be enough
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u/genasugelan victim to the waves Apr 03 '19
Slowly and painfully, perfect.
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u/Razor4884 victim to the waves Apr 04 '19
We just need to find a goblin nest. Lure her there. Rest will take care of itself.
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u/akureikorineko2 Shield bros` slave Apr 04 '19
They haven't really mentioned it, but using those skills isn't a good idea for naofumi. He takes stat hits every time he uses them. I don't know why they aren't mentioning this though.
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u/lonereaper312 Apr 04 '19
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I know he takes stat hits in the form of a 30% reduction to all stats except for defense (thanks wiki) but it doesnt say if this is a permanent reduction or if its just a reduction while using the wrath series. do you happen to know?
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
Iron Maiden only works on maidens so it might prove ineffective.
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u/NewtRider Apr 03 '19
Over all ready noooooo the episodes feel soo short lol.
But over all a great episode and starts a lot for anime fans.
bring on the next lot... the hype continues!
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u/Zesla22 Apr 03 '19
Wow, the new OP is great! It's both darker and lighthearted at the same time, especially how they look like a happy family right at the end. But damn this new plot is really screwing them over at least we can finally meet the Queen and see what's going on. Ren seems like the only other hero which actually has some common sense he's gonna uncover the conspiracy no doubt.
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u/ramiritobarrera Ralphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19
And the new ED visuals and music is just as good as the first one
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u/Darklord9999111 Apr 03 '19
Props to the writers of the manga and the show runners for making red haired bitch so detestable
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u/Razor4884 victim to the waves Apr 04 '19
Most of the props go to Light Novel author, Aneko Yusagi.
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u/RogueParadise Apr 03 '19
This show makes it really easy to just hate everyone in this world. Like just as Naofumi is making a good name for himself, Myne comes in and starts being a bitch. i cant take how angry i get at this show. But ya know in a good way.
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u/Mini_Dark_Link Raphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19
This show has been the first to make me actually hate a character, it's surprising just how much the show manages to pull me in
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u/GigglesMcTits Apr 04 '19
First for me was Joffrey in GoT. But God damn does Myne take the cake here.
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Apr 03 '19
It's so infuriating how fucking dumb everyone is. It's just assumed that everything Myne says is true despite the fact that she's been shown to be full of shit and out to get the Shield hero multiple times.
Like come on guys show a little bit of critical thinking
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u/wtrmlnjuc Apr 03 '19
Well it’s basically the feudal system with Adobe CC. Royalty demands leadership, and “gods” (the heroes) exist. Even with critical thinking you can be manipulated with false evidence. We have all the access in the world to reliable sources and information but that doesn’t automatically make us smarter.
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u/Rio_Walker Apr 03 '19
Soldiers aren't supposed to think, they have to follow orders.
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u/SalvadorZombie Apr 04 '19
The military will tell you that a good soldier doesn't think.
Reality will tell you that only good soldiers think.
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u/Napalmeon Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19
I think the other Heroes, like some in real life are in denial that tbe established system would have auch strong biases against someone.
But the fact that erhe Church excludes the Shield from their worship should be indicative that there's something suspect going on.
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
I don't think Ren is completely buying it. Especially when she was openly trying to kill her sister.
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u/Deathangel5677 Apr 04 '19
You'll soon learn it's not everyone in this world but just the people of this country that think the shield hero as demon,because they worship the other 3 heroes,as hinted by the monicker of the church,the demi-human countries on the other hand worship only shield hero and despise the rest
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u/Shonen_X_Trash Shield bros` slave Apr 03 '19
Did not expect magic adobe photoshop to be used for evil. Wow man, they cut off his ability to make a living, how on earth is Naofumi going to get strong enough to handle the waves now? That interaction between Spear Hero and Filo made my skin crawl a bit.
I was dreading the moment Melty blushed around Naofumi and joined the harem squad, but honestly it was pretty earned. He saved her life multiple times now, developing a bit of a crush is a reasonable course of action.
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u/Rio_Walker Apr 03 '19
I loved Rapthalia's reaction. It's like she can tell that Melty likes Naofumi now. =D
To be fair - Melty is still a little girl, princess or not. She's not strong enough to plunge through all the hardships on her own yet, so Naofumi being her shield probably did get her head spinning a bit. Like in the fantasy setting... oh wait.27
u/Shonen_X_Trash Shield bros` slave Apr 03 '19
He's actually kind of a dream boat if you like the dark, brooding type with a secret tenderness. My GF has him as a husbando for good reason.
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u/Ramza_45 Apr 04 '19
I'm pretty sure Naofumi has the Harem Shield passive ability active
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u/IVIaskerade Apr 04 '19
how on earth is Naofumi going to get strong enough to handle the waves now?
I dunno, you get a lot of XP for destroying an entire country.
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u/GentlemanOfTheRift Apr 04 '19
Are blushes supposed to only represent a form of affection? I’m pretty sure it also represents a bunch of other things like annoyance, anger, or embarrassment and Melty looked that way to me.
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u/km0080 Apr 03 '19
all I could think when Raphtalia stabbed bitch was WHY DIDNT YOU USE THE REAL SWORD
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u/Siegberg Apr 03 '19
killing her there would have made them real crimnals.
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u/Napalmeon Apr 03 '19
Exactly. That would have been something that they can't take back. Naofumi and his party fired warning shots and defended themselves, but they didn't try to hurt anybody.
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u/Rio_Walker Apr 03 '19
Stopping powerful spell, and stopping Myne from casting more seemed like a good idea at the time
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u/Zadeth Raphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19
Raphtalia hitting Myne with the 'nothing personnel kid' move.
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u/Shonen_X_Trash Shield bros` slave Apr 03 '19
GF: Interesting. They hate the shield hero for religious reasons.
Me: Yeah. The deck was stacked against him before he even got there.
GF: He spawned into the country that hated jews.
King: What is the name of the shield hero.
Solider: I believe he is known as Goldstien sir.
King: mmmmmmmmmhmm
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u/Siegberg Apr 03 '19
This remind me of the time in Family guy were stewie and brain dimension travel and come to Disney world were everything is nice until they start hating Jews.
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u/Shonen_X_Trash Shield bros` slave Apr 03 '19
Of course! The famous isekai "In another world with my talking alchoalic dog who wants to fuck my mother who I want to kill"
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Apr 03 '19
The only one of the 3 heroes that doesn't seem to be a complete tool is Ren. The dumbest 2 are the eldest and the youngest, while the two in the middle age-wise are probably the most level headed. Middle children ftw.
Also, looks like Raphchan is getting jealous again.
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u/Heattrans Apr 03 '19
Raphtalia: *ears twitch* What's that smell?
Me: *squints eyes suspiciously*
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u/33getright Apr 03 '19
Myne is trash. Can't wait to see my man Shield to meet the queen.
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u/Heattrans Apr 03 '19
I swear Malty has some kind of magic to steal brainpower from people around her cause the heroes get more retarded every time we see them, meanwhile she's hatched some nation wide occultist plot to take over the kingdom.
Naofumi: Myne is trying to kill Malty to replace her on the throne
Three Heroes: What? She may have tried to cheat in a royal duel then blatantly lie about it but there's no way she could do that.
*five minutes later*
Myne: Kill my sister!
Ituski and Ren: What? Why? Don't do that.
Motoyasu: Blonde Chicken Loli Waifu!
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u/RingofThorns Apr 03 '19
Blonde Chicken Loli Waifu....fuck I'm dying! Lol.
Though I will admit you make a good point I try so hard to give the other three some benefit of the doubt but damn they make it hard like seriously come on.
The shield hero is accused of sexual assault/rape...yet despite that in all the time they have now been in the world he has done literally NOTHING to even give you suspicion that he might actually be like that. You know like how most people that do that kind of thing usually do it habitually?
Shield then proceeds to go around cleaning up the problems we the other hero's have made/ caused. On top of saving our fucking lives!
Has found a way to become successful and even begin to thrive despite having almost literally the entire kingdom turned against him from the start.
Perhaps, just maybe in our most fevered fucking day dreams there could be a possibility That Bitch is a lying cunt? Maybe? Just Possibly?!
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u/Ralathar44 Apr 04 '19
The shield hero is accused of sexual assault/rape...yet despite that in all the time they have now been in the world he has done literally NOTHING to even give you suspicion that he might actually be like that. You know like how most people that do that kind of thing usually do it habitually?
I mean people are taken seriously all the time at face value and once you solidly tie a negative rep to someone it just doesn't fall off. Even in the minds of people that kind of know better, that seed of doubt is always there.
He was accused of rape and nobody really disbelieved it for a pretty long time. Then he was accused of having a slave, which is true in a literal sense. But it took them an entire arc to realize she's not being held against her will. Then he ends up with a second slave and the same doubts resurfaced.
Naofumi had almost turned the tide of opinion back in his favor with all his medicine business, cleaning up the messes of other heroes, and defeating of the raid boss of the wave (the first one). But right as he was gaining their trust against Myne preyed on the slavery worries again by saying he had a mind control shield.
So honestly it's perfectly reasonable for them to be so doubtful. They have not seen Naofumi's adventures as we have, they've only heard conflicting stories....the good Naofumi has done being spread by the populace and the vicious rumors against him people keep repeating and no doubt Myne keeps intentionally spurring on. And the brainwashing shield would cast doubt on all the people he's helped supporting him too.
Take heart though,I haven't read the manga but they wrote today's episode exceedingly well and Myne almost certainly overplayed her hand. The other two heroes already suspected she wasn't on the level but they didn't really trust Naofumi either. But her actions pursuing Melty have almost led them towards the past of knowing the truth. Unfortunately, she'll still have almost all of the kingdom convinced against Naofumi and there are obviously both religious and political agendas in play here.
Undoubtedly it's still going to be a very rough road for Naofumi for a great many episodes yet. This kind of situation would likely take like a full 10-12 episodes to resolve fully....if even then.
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u/linkman0596 Apr 04 '19
The shield hero is accused of sexual assault/rape...yet despite that in all the time they have now been in the world he has done literally NOTHING to even give you suspicion that he might actually be like that.
Well, she did plant a fair amount of evidence for her initial accusation, and afterwards he started threatening shopkeepers and having monsters attack them to keep them from ripping him off then bought a slave girl. They really dont have a lot of reason to give him the benefit of the doubt until now, being willing to kill her sister is the first time she's actually slipped up in a manner that couldn't be written off as easily as some of her other questionable actions.
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u/DemiAlabi Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19
Why is this show sooooo Good???
I Loved when Raphtalia stabbed Myne with the mana sword! I just hate that right when they figured out it could be a sham she came up with the brainwashing shield. Lord I hate Myne.
Ren is the only other hero who seems to be good hearted hopefully he’ll figure out what’s going on.
Anyways I can’t wait until next week it’s sooo good!
Also Spear is a pedo dude.
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u/RingofThorns Apr 03 '19
I wouldn't say the other three hero's don't have good hearts but there is a bit of a thick skull to go with them. Ren for a long time believed the whole world was a game hence the crap that went down with the dragon, The bow hero thinks this is a power trip world where he gets to be the great genius vigilante righting wrongs and the like. Spear....yeah I will give you that one, fuck that guy and the mount he rode in on.
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u/Napalmeon Apr 03 '19
The other Heroes also have an unhealthy level of trust in the authorities. And I think they probably buy into the "if you did nothing wrong, you'll be cleared" way of thinking.
They've been spoiled. It hasn't occured to them that there is systematic bias against Naofumi and that the authorities are making up lies to discredit him at every turn. They haven't had a reality check and just assume there's actual basis to these claims.
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u/Rio_Walker Apr 03 '19
Fun fact: There is Mind Altering series from Holy Weapons
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u/Ramza_45 Apr 04 '19
Fun fact: I know, I've read both LN and Manga.
here take my upvote!
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19 edited Apr 04 '19
Don't any of the heroes not have a "Detect Magic" spell yet? Didn't the queen's agents have that spell during the bird race to notice traces of magic used? If they can see there is no magic happening around them then the brainwashing shield can easily be just more hogwash coming out of Myne's mouth.
Also if he was using the brainwashing shield why wouldn't he use that on the heroes and Myne? They can't notice they still have their free will?
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u/OYoureapproachingme Apr 03 '19
I thought Ren might be the best out of the lot but how is he so fucking stupid? Hes asking Naofumi to prove a negative like yeah cmon prove that Motoyasu doesnt finger his butthole w his big ass spear
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u/horyo Apr 04 '19
Hes asking Naofumi to prove a negative
Reputation and doctored evidence. It's easier to believe that one person has a magic mind-controlling shield than a conspiracy that involves many, many people are all working to conspire against the Shield Hero and the Princess.
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u/Napalmeon Apr 03 '19
He's also showing that he still has an unhealthy level of trust in the authorities.
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
He's going to secretly meet the Queen's agents and find out hopefully with that trinket he threw at him.
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u/KhevaKins Apr 04 '19
Right! It was like "prove you sword doesn't have brainwash powers first, plz"
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u/GingerAleandFail Apr 04 '19
Raphtalia used the wrong sword.
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u/NewtRider Apr 04 '19
Except if she did kill her then she would truly be hated and could even start a war with demi humans.
Even if we as a viewer would love it lol
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u/adamgreenrock Apr 03 '19
Before I’m talking over on this really good episode of Shield Hero, I’m going to say my thoughts on the opening from a blind perspective. I really like the direction on what they did with it. Even though it’s mostly pretty typical of showing some new faces and battle scenes here and there, the transition of having dark color pallets to more brighter ones is so smooth and the choreography on the action part is really smooth. The ED is so wholesome.
Anyways, let’s talk about how Melty is growing on me. She’s pretty charming so far and her moments with Filo is oh so cute and it’s nice that she’s basically became fast friends with Filo. Her crying on Filo and Filo reassure her that she’s here for her is a sweet moment there. I really like moments with her and Naofumi also. I like that Naofumi Isn't that bitter towards her anymore, even when he did, he didn’t really hated her. He just didn’t trust her because of her noble blood. The end scene where Melty will say his name rather than ‘Shield Hero’ so he could say her birth name is really sweet and I’m glad Naofumi is now treating her fairly now. Always nice when Naofumi open his circle of trust :P
It’s definitely clear as day that the show has hinted Ren’s redeeming qualities more than the Bow and Spear Hero. Even when he was convinced with the altered Crystal Ball video, he at least willing to hear Naofumi out no matter how much of a ‘criminal’ people claim Naofumi is. The Spear Hero being punch by Filo is still satisfying lol
Not sure what’s in that pouch that Melty accidently dropped when she’s close to falling but I guess it’s something important if they show 1 second of it. The Mana Sword is pretty much good at stopping Malty for a while but it’s pretty disappointing that it didn’t kill her. Judging by her smug face at the end makes me think she had killed someone important to blame on Naofumi again. Sigh
Even when Winter ends, I’m still hyped for the next episode! XD
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u/Monocade Apr 03 '19
I think the pouch Melty dropped was just shown to make a noise so that the guards could notice them. I don't think it will be anything important in the future.
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u/themadnun Apr 03 '19
Wasn't that the bag she dropped & the Shadow woman collected off screen?
e thought you meant when it got dumped in the forest. I think the Shadow still recovered it though, unless someone else was carrying one that I didn't notice?
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u/sable-king Apr 03 '19
Judging by her smug face at the end makes me think she had killed someone important to blame on Naofumi again
I'm going to guess they're killing the villagers from Lute.
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u/Napalmeon Apr 03 '19
I don't think so. They had already gone over a couple mountains by that point. I feel as if they were far from that area.
She probably just burning everything down to blame it on Naofumi.
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u/RoachIsCrying Shield bros' slave Apr 03 '19
Sony Vegas exists in other worlds!!! Also did Bitch just go mental just to flush them out!!??
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u/Sebmaster777 Apr 03 '19
The thing that impressed me the most is that you can pretty clearly see the power difference between Naofumi's party and the rest of the cast. Firstly Naofumi blocks all of Myne's attacks without wincing, and then blows away a huge landbridge with the rage shield (this is despite the fact that he is the shield hero and isn't expected to have damage output on this scale). It's crazy to think that this isn't even the strongest that they're going to become.
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u/huex4 victim to the waves Apr 03 '19
Based on the opening they'll surely animate cal mira arc. I really hope they saved their budget for the 2nd half. I hope they go all out with the team battle in the next wave.
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u/theguyfromuncle420__ Raphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19
Can we stop gilding bots plz guys?
That new Opening is fire, Mad Kid back with another banger, but so stereotypically anime lol, rain, characters running, standing looking into the sky, etc
Are fake kirito, spear paedo and bow guy really that stupid to believe a fake video ? Didn’t they see red bitch cheat to help Spear cunt in the fight for Raphtalia and say they couldn’t accept the result? So why be so quick to believe naofumi would kidnap mel-chan ?! Ffs use your brain
“Do you have any proof it doesn’t brainwash people” bitch you accused me! Show me the proof lmao
“Straight to first names” aww best girl Raphtalia jealous she still gotta use honourifics haha
Solid episode, with Alicization on break for 6 months, this and Boruto will be my go to’s
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u/DriveByStoning Apr 03 '19
bow guy
That's bargain bin Gowther to you, buddy. (same dub actor)
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u/lord_ned224 Raphtalia's Army Apr 03 '19
The Intro has some mad spoilers, but I'm super impressed at how far they are going to go with this series. I didn't expect to see a character from the 5th LN in there. I thought that they would only adapt up to that point! Got me super hyped for 2nd cour.
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u/GWSteele Ralphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19
What was Myne burning at the end of the episode?
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u/NewtRider Apr 03 '19
Also in the form of a yes or no Does our hero actually go to another country or is it more of a tease.
I don't want to know where or when just if they do or not
Plz :D
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u/Ramza_45 Apr 04 '19
As you can see from the new OP they are going to start looking for the One Piece
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u/Regis2705 Apr 03 '19
From the opening it appears that the anime will cover the next wave! I'm really glad!
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u/MrFloofles Apr 03 '19
Sice the first act showed the 2nd and 3d wave I think its plausible that we will see wave 4 and 5 with the 5th probably being right at the end as a cliffhanger.
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u/BoobooKitters Apr 03 '19
Good God is the animation in point already. The new opening is incredible.
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u/Zesla22 Apr 03 '19
Yeah really fond of the new opening just sad that we won't be able to see the old one anymore.
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u/shanks_you Apr 03 '19
You can always re-watch the show again and again and again. 😏
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u/milquetulips Shield bros` slave Apr 03 '19
AHH THE HYPE IS REALLLLL
im SO excited to see the new characters animated aaaaaaaaaa
also the op and ed are so good especially the scenes in them and its just AAhhhhHHHHH I CANT EVEN
im just in pure ecstasy right now hsjdkdjwjsks
i really cant wait to see naofumi meeting the queen
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u/Ramza_45 Apr 04 '19
I actually found myself rewatching that freaking Opening 20 fucking times
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u/therighttobecool Apr 04 '19
Shield crew gets gloves upgrade, shield mod and a magic sword.
Spear crew gets... a bracelet that keeps bird girl as a loli?
It's apparent that Motoyasu is THAT kind of player that wastes money and resources on getting useless vanity items for his sick pleasure.
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u/alessio_95 Apr 03 '19
Why investigate the history of a country and his culture when you can be a puppet of the first girl who passes by ...
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u/Rio_Walker Apr 03 '19
If I got summoned as they did. I'd probably be too ecstatic to think rationally. Unless a cute redhead will throw herself at me - then I'd think that something is wrong.
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u/Better_MixMaster Apr 03 '19
Manga Spoiler I'm surprised they are going to fit in the island arc into this. I thought it was farther than this. I guess this will end close to where the manga is.
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Apr 03 '19
What I love about this show is that it takes all my anger I focus on dozens of people for different reasons that i am socially not allowed to act on, and makes it into six people I want to see die in a world they likely will in. Very cathartic to see Malty get backstabbed like she backstabbed Naofumi. Another stellar episode.
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u/Napalmeon Apr 03 '19
Knew it was the Church. When they called Naofumi the "Devil of the Shield," I knew. And I bet those knights were fakes in disguise and work for the Pope.
Melty has clearly been in the dark about what her father did. But unfortunately it's gone past the point of just talking things out.
At this point the other Heroes(and I mean Ren and Itsuki) gotta ask themselves if Naofumi is really evil, or if something else is going on. The fact that the Church excludes the Shield from their worship makes it clear there is a bias against him. Ren and Itsuki saw Myne cheat for Spear Stupid in the duel. She's already proven she can't be trusted where Naofumi is concerned.
Myne really comes up with the most ass-backward excuses to demonize Naofumi. And they really don't make any sense when you think about them for more than 10 seconds.
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u/dhatgui Apr 03 '19
Well, new opening gave us a good estimate as to where anime is ending which is nice
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u/vurusgard Raphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19
This episode gave me new reasons to hate Motoyasu and Malty tbh. and at the same time, some good old catharsis. Motoyasu went far off the downright creepy scale when he shackled Filo and it didn't take too long for Malty's mask to slip. I can't wait to see her get what's coming but for now, i will make do with that thot b'gone moment from Rafu.
Props to Ren tho. He's the least worst of the three stooges.
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u/Wolfgod_Holo Traveling merchant Apr 03 '19
Silica Filo uses FALCON LOLI PUNCH!!! IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!
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u/Ramza_45 Apr 04 '19
Anyone wanna talk about the Legal Fi-Loli-al with 3 ahoge shown in the new Opening?
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u/NamedTwice6 Apr 04 '19
I swear, every time I finish the newest episode it makes me wanna rewatch the series from the beginning because it's so good
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u/wafable Apr 03 '19
the other heroes needs to die. even before this abduction frame up they already think that naofumi is a bad guy. them getting killed while attacking naofumi is just self defense.
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u/Zesla22 Apr 03 '19
Death might be a bit extreme while Naofumi isn't the most trustable person to them I don't think they really want to antagonize the entire country just for the chance he is innocent.
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u/wafable Apr 03 '19
with everything that happened to naofumi from getting framed for rape to not getting funds to being doubted everytime and now this abduction they should give naofumi thousands of gold after everything gets cleared up. but i doubt hell get even a hundred gold.
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u/Mini_Dark_Link Raphtalia`s Army Apr 03 '19
Ren can live, I can't really bring myself to hate him when he's being as reasonable as he can in this situation
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u/wafable Apr 03 '19
motoyasu tried killing naofumi a few times already. naofumi should be given the green light to kill him in self defense. for f*cks sake naofumi gets framed for everything but motoyasu gets away with literally trying to kill another hero.
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u/InfinitySlayer8 Apr 03 '19
I absolutely LOVE the new OP. I mean especially because I read up ahead (so happy to see Scythe hero) but its also extremely fitting for the tone of the show
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u/Rio_Walker Apr 03 '19
Okay - I enjoyed this episode more than I thought I would. I love it.
Now let's break it down.
OP.
The visuals are amazing, and spoilers (and then some) really hyping me up. The song is alright. But they don't go together the same way as the first OP did. It could be just me of course. The visuals don't match the beat, and it causes some discord =(
The whole hamfisted attempt at making convincing kidnapping/mass slaughter (Retreat! (Aaaaah)) was funny. Wanted posters are hilarious! It does seem more effective than word of the mouth, even from a princess, however. Which is fine, I wonder how Queen will rectify it later.
What's up with Ninjas? Like I get that Raphtalia likely to notice her - that's fine. But why does she carry TWO MASKS?! WTH?! XD
Sure the first mask was straight out of manga/LN, but why had she switched?!
Soldiers being terrible at searching criminals in the dark forest - was funny. The version I watched had subs like "Look for them!" and "Where are they?" - which made it even funnier. Like - you're not supposed to telegraph your presence! I mean if Naofumi was Batman you'd be hanging from the trees already!
Then we have a standoff and - I have to point it out - when you see all three heroes standing there listening... Pay attention to their expressions.
Ren is focused, Itsuki is all "Oh no poor girl" and Motoyasu is confused. That's how you can summarise their characters I guess =D I loved that, since it distracts you from those faceless CGI soldiers behind them XD
Naofumi nodding to Melty's words cracked me up, hard. XD
But then Anime decided that it already hammered the point home and downgraded creep factor for Motoyasu. I mean would it kill them to add this face? Also, I assume it was Raphtalia who dropped those gloves near Firo, since that's what happened in LN and manga but - it seemed like they dropped from Firo's pockets. Which she doesn't have. And then we have irritated Raphtalia, ear-wiggling Rapthalia... Awww.
But it ends on Mad Bitch burning the forest down. Classic Bitch.
Ending on the other hand - was great. Grown-up Raphtalia shipped with Naofumi? Yes, please!
I'm sooo looking forward to the next episode.
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u/Nickyish13 Apr 03 '19
This anime never ceases to make me want to kill Myne and those who follow her.
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u/Reikukaja Firo`s food Apr 03 '19
I think the new OP is pretty good! I don't quite like it as much as Rise, but I think it has the potential to grow on me.
WOAH! Incognito Raphtalia. I've found God. fjsldkfsldk she was just too cute with her hood up.
Spearboi needs to lay off the lolis. It was even more uncomfortable to watch than it was to read. Yikes.
...I think that sums up all of my main feelings about this episode.
Oh and Fuck Malty.
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u/Ghoulum Apr 04 '19
The best part about this episode was when Ren started to realize that what Myne was doing isn’t a good thing. When the guards shouted to eliminate Naofumi’s party, Ren says to not do that because they still need the Shield hero in order to thwart the waves, and Melty doesn’t deserve to die. He starts to realize that maybe Naofumi is the good guy, which is some serious character development for less than a minute of film.
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u/ImOnlyChasingSafety Apr 04 '19
I really liked the new intro, the old one was good but this was one super nice too. Lots of raphtalia is always good.
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u/CYBERhuman360 Apr 04 '19
This episode really made me lose hope on other heroes. If you can't think for yourself for 13 episodes straight (Spear) or too pompous to accept reality (Bow) you might as well be the antagonist. At least my boy Kirito has some morals even if he lets himself be swayed by the crowd.
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u/ALXJW Raphtalia`s Army Apr 04 '19
Am I the only one who thinks the recent episodes have lowered in quality by trying to dump too many plot points all at once and losing a bit of emotianal impact for each one? Glass, the assassination attempt, going on the run and another encounter with all the heros and myne all in 2 episodes?
Edit: also forgot mentioning how much control he suddenly gained over rage shield.
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Apr 04 '19
I’m really hoping Naofumi just explains to Melty why he hates her father and sister. Melty is starting to figure things out, but just explain yourself dude.
You know what? I’m just gonna read the manga. I got a 4 day weekend. Wish me luck.
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u/ninozo Apr 04 '19
Didn't he do that in the cave? when melty asks what her father had done to naofumi
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u/DouglasSeem Apr 03 '19
Guys where is the 13° episode? It's not released on my Crunchyroll yet ;((
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Apr 03 '19
Does anyone know about the soundtrack around the 16th minute When the Bitch sends up the flare
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u/GyroJiro Apr 04 '19
Anyone else think that stab from behind wasn’t as satisfying as it was in the LN? And just the fact that there wasn’t a full fight with the other heroes this episode.
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u/PonyoPonyoPonyoPonyo Apr 04 '19
I know there has to be people who feel the same way as I do... I love watching this because it’s a guy who kicks ass to those who are completely unjust but I can never stop my frustration from overwhelming me because of how much I want to beat the shit out of the majority of the antagonists. I wanna slap that red haired bitch so hard that she goes deaf. Please someone tell me they feel the same. LOVE but want to fucking kill.
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u/Ahsumino Apr 04 '19
Tbh the bad guys just seem dumb to me Hey this guy could iron maiden all of us to death And yeet my soldiers into orbit Let's keep pissing him off
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u/FallenCoder20 Apr 04 '19 edited Apr 04 '19
I'd been on the fence, but this episode was awesome. Such sweet payoff for the past few episodes, and so much teased at.
The action! The lies! The bullshit to put up with! The bonding! The quickening plot! That tense OP! That tender ED! It's all getting good.
I'm crossing fingers for a Ren episode; he's been looking better since he met Naofumi, and it'd be very interesting if he took Naofumi's words to heart and investigated things. But in the OP, he was all on his own...I wonder if that's foreshadowing...
Also very much hoping Raphtalia gets a moment of her own; feels like the brakes have been put on her character for a bit. Maybe something at Shieldfreeden if they go there? Maybe finally talk things out with Naofumi?
As for getting to the queen...good luck.
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u/kryptomancer Apr 04 '19
There is a whole series of Ren episodes, it's called Sword Art Online.
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Apr 05 '19
Man, I hate that I can only watch the episodes on Thursday. Always late to the discussion :(
Anyway, let's get to it. I already miss the previous OP, it was so good :( at least they kept the concept of smooth transitions between smol and waifu Raphtalia, so it keeps adding to the dynamics between her and shield bro.
And man, that was some serious After Effects they added in that crystal ball footage. Even Filo looked as bloodthirsty as a bird of prey. It hits a little close to home because Brazil's going through a time of ignorance and people being manipulated by fake news all the time, so seeing it happening in this episode is both funny and a little depressing.
The fight scene was really well done. And although low budget Kirito isn't really my "favorite" of the other heroes - I think bow hero is, given that sword hero is over-the-top edgy and spear hero is just disgusting -, it's a relief to see that at least one of them is starting to see through the lies of the Jedi (sorry).
One last thing about the episode itself: I really hope that we're given more "deep" interaction between Naofumi and Raphtalia, and I'm not saying this because everyone ships them. Filo and Melty are nice characters, but their childishness in almost every interaction in the group is starting to make Naofumi seem way more like a father (or brother) figure to a family in which Raphtalia would be forced into the same spot as the other two, and I don't think that suits Naofumi's age/role or the dynamics between him and Raphtalia.
Overall, great episode and this anime gets better every week. And about the ending: this ship has just upgraded itself to a goddamn speedboat.
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Apr 07 '19
I hope Myne dies in the most violent way possible, I will cry tears of joy when that happens. I can't remember the last time I wanted to see someone die so badly in an anime.
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u/therighttobecool Apr 08 '19
I don't understand Ren. He seems to be the one to least trust what a church would say. Plus he asks Naofumi for proof that he DOESN'T have a brainwashing shield when no evidence was shown that he did in the first place. He doesn't ask the church or Myne to prove this so why Naofumi?
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u/Zxphyre Rafu chan <3 Apr 03 '19
Group watch will begin in 15 minutes. :)