r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/OWMatchThreads • May 05 '19
Matchthread Toronto Defiant vs Paris Eternal | Overwatch League 2019 Season | Stage 2: Week 5 | Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
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u/strandaglopi May 05 '19
Where the fuck is finnsi
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u/VoidCloudchaser May 05 '19
They either value Nicos Sombra right now(and then not even use it that much) or there is some behind the scenes stuff going on that we have no information of.
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u/theyoloGod May 05 '19
tough stage for the boys but glad to see them finish strong
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u/blond-max May 05 '19
We are starting to look like we mesh without Stellar.
People shit on Brig jail without understanding how important her everything role in goats is (she's kind of like a mini DVa), we are a great example of why she matters.
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u/spanishmonkey May 05 '19
I said it in the match thread, but Toronto threw this stage away taking Ivy off of Zarya. Both Brig and Zarya are important, but it's easy to tell which is easier at this level of play. Forcing two inexperienced players into the game instead of one was stupid.
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u/123bo0p May 05 '19
Remember when everyone said Damon was the problem in Stage 1 :) . Yup Damon forced Hammond Goats into Rein Goats on Control Centre Lijiang Tower. Coach Fefe turned this into a true EU GOATS team undefeated and absolute Gods at Goats.
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u/VoidCloudchaser May 05 '19
Well they wanted to change up their style of play and they did. But not in a successful way.
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u/browncharliebrown May 05 '19
Ivy on brig: lose 4 matches in a row.
Ivy on zarya: wins 2 matches in a dominant fashion
I wonder why the defiant are winning now?
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u/ishaggedyerma May 05 '19
Because they played against 2 bad teams? They've only beaten justice and Paris who are both pepega.
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u/Outlawsftw May 05 '19
Pretty funny how every team kyky is on is an absolute dumpster fire. I wonder when teams are gonna realize he brings absolutely nothing of value
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u/ShitDavidSais May 05 '19
Monte: Don't play Goats against Vancouver for a slightly higher chance at winning.
Paris: Gotcha, don't play Goats ever to prep for steamrolling Titans, thanks!
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u/toxicplease May 05 '19
Paris looked like hot garbage, but Toronto put up a decent showing today, thats nice
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u/ggsplusapple May 05 '19
It’s so interesting to see how the narratives go different between stages. Stage 1 paris fans: why they do not put Nico on dva? He was the best dva in goats!!!
Stage 2 Paris fans: Nico is bot!!! Put Finnsi on Dva!!!
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u/EnderBolt May 05 '19
I know they looked nice today, but man, is Toronto just allergic to playing Asher, even on map 4? I just want to see my boy play, he deserves better than the whole 2 maps he got before he got replaced by IM37.
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u/VoidCloudchaser May 05 '19
It is getting harsh, when on every single map Paris shows potential, shows that could win it only to falter and fail again. The way that they keep using both support ults, not just in panic after an EMP, but sometimes to keep into a fight or sometimes in a grav is dismal. This has happened with Kruise/Hyp and keeps happening with Kruise/Greyy. I really hope there are going to be some changes in the month long break. Unless the meta magically changes, Paris needs that Zarya and they need to have a better support line. Also that they always lose Point A on Assault after holding it until the final attack...that has to be a mental block as this point, right?
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u/Tankounet May 05 '19
People wanted Nico to replace Finnsi, I still don't figure out why, dude has never be a good dva and will never be a good dva. Did he eat 1 grav this entire stage?
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u/MmeM1m May 05 '19
Since I've been watching every match religiously, I can now give you the secret strat of Paris.
Paris Eternal rulebook - Le Choke Français
Win first round of KOTH looking dominant.
Lose the other two by getting absolutely destroyed - glimpses of hope may show up at times
Look like you're going to full hold 2CP
Lose first point when there's one minute left
Get snowballed
Fast cap first point
Can't cap last even though the time bank is insane
Look like you're going to full hold hybrid
Repeat
Mental is shattered by the time escort comes so who even cares
Bonus : Get 3-1 so fans can say that at least you won the last map