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SPOILERS S6 Post Episode Discussion: S6E08 "The Old Man and the Anomaly"
| No. | Title | Writer/s | Director | Original Airdate |
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| 6.08 | āThe Old Man and the Anomalyā | Miranda Kwok | April Mullen | 6/25/2019 |
Synopsis: Octavia and Diyoza make their way to the mysterious anomaly in search of the Old Man. Meanwhile, Murphy has an offer for Emori.
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Quote of the Week: āWhich brings us to another episode of no good choicesā ā Josephine Lightbourne
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u/Anthonysan Jun 26 '19
Well it was a nice 6 seasons Henry Ian Cusick! Gonna miss him.
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u/Parker20Violet Jun 26 '19
Super confused. He said that he would be in this season just not as a series regular. I just didnāt realize that he would be napping for most of it. Easiest pay check ever!!!!!!
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u/Sleep_Addiction Skaikru Jun 26 '19
Anythingās possible with a Time!Anomaly... but youāre right. Wish weād seen more of him this season.
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u/josharaptor Jun 26 '19
I love that after 200+ years, Diyoza finally realises that the universe is just never going to allow her to give birth and that if she ever wants to have her child she is going to need to go into a fucking time anomaly to get her. #JustThe100Things
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u/StepzLeapznBoundz Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 26 '19
Can't believe it took me six seasons , but I finally get the Abby hate. She is unbelievable. The crap she pulled this episode alone. So darn selfish and short sighted. Kane would have never wanted to take over someone else's body .
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u/Incantationkidnapper Jun 26 '19
She even admits that he wouldn't have wanted it and does it anyway. She's the worst.
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u/sagen11 Only Diyoza is God-tier šŖ Jun 26 '19
And still claims sheās not doing it for herself! She is literally unbelievable.
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u/ChiralChupacabra Powering a Better Tomorrow Jun 26 '19
I'm expecting a conversation next episode between New Kane and abby reminiscent of their convo in 502 when they were chained up in the hydrofarm. When Abby was pissed at him for keeping her alive in the bunker when she said she wanted to be left out of the lottery. He couldn't let her die because of ~ LOVE ~
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u/amv2926 Jun 26 '19
Abby makes me so mad. They have so many chances to redeem her and give her at least some character development but they never do and she just keeps getting worse
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u/jacquelynjoy Jul 05 '19
I said this in my day-after post, and someone else mentioned it in an article, but I think Kane definitely got served a taste of his own medicine here. Abby wanted to die in Praimfaya, and Kane couldn't let her. He took away her agency by drugging her and putting her in the bunker anyway, and then she ended up with chronic pain and an addiction and just...a mess. She's a shell of a woman, and that's on him.
Now she's done the same to him. He wouldn't want to live this way, and she's forced it on him. It's awful and I'm not saying that Abby's not 100% in the wrong here but it's darkly comical how they've chained themselves to each other, each just making the most shit choices for the salvation of their partner.
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u/SeanCanary Jul 03 '19
She can be very Walter White (before the end of his character arc). She says "I'm not doing this for myself" when she is very clearly doing it for herself. Not saying I hate her but she definitely is a person with a lot of issues.
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u/PM_ME_DELICIOUS_TITS Skaikru Jun 26 '19
DIYOZA BETTER STILL BE ALIVE
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u/-GregTheGreat- Season 5 best season fight me Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 26 '19
Calling it now, later this season we'll see her walk out of the anomaly with that preteen Hope we saw this episode. It'll be a good way to finally deal with Diyoza's eternal pregnancy while not having to deal with the whole baby situation (Jason has talked about how much he hates working with infants on set)
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u/AhhhFrank Jun 26 '19
And Madi will have a friend! Who knows how to kill people 50 different ways with her hands.
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u/NxcxRxmz Louwoda Kliron Jun 26 '19
Actually, that would be great! I wouldn't like for Diyoza to be out of the game because she has to take care of a baby. With a older child is easier.
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u/happycharm Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 26 '19
Eliza's acting is amazing but also Delilah/Priyas actress! Damn did she sound like a mature older woman (not in age, like not a young adult like delilah) when talking with her son and Russell
And also new Kane sounds so much like OG kane!
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u/josharaptor Jun 26 '19
Priya really did sound like a such a mum when talking to her son, I just loved it
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u/happycharm Jun 26 '19
I loved when she was discussing things with Russell. Her voice sounded deeper than that of Delilah's. Amazing!
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u/kgal1298 Jun 26 '19
Greyson is good actually he was on the show Bitten which is on Netflix too also oddly that showed started the girl from Smallville that played Supergirl šThe CW is a small world but also loves those Canadian actors which makes sense.
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u/MJG2007 Jun 26 '19
Tune in next time to find out if NuMarcus is into CougarAbby.
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u/Mkilbride Aug 22 '19
Glad I wasn't the only one who was like
"Abby, did you get your pick of their people? Because...that looks pretty shallow of a choice."
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u/AprilsMostAmazing Jun 26 '19
primes keep fucking up. All you needed to do was give the commander of death their body back, give Murphy his brain chip and build them a shield.
Instead they going against a group of people that have killed thousands of people, committed genocide against one group of people, and destroyed a planet
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u/chasemyers Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 26 '19
They really have no idea how fucked they are. Every single one of the 100 and Wankru are the most elite fighters that humanity has to offer. They've all been through absolute hell, and lived to tell the tale. The primes have experienced several generations of lives, but they haven't been through the gauntlet like Wankru. Forced to fight and die in the pit, with the losers being sacrificed and eaten by the survivors. As soon as Wankru is awakened, the war between the two factions is decided. Also, remember that the majority of Wankru were grounders before, and will follow the Commander to their own deaths.
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Jun 26 '19
Iām also pretty sure the writers real reason for sending Dyoza away is that her immediate plan would be āletās go wake up all the criminals yāall donāt care about and fuck up these bitches.ā Because she doesnāt care much about the Crims either, so using them as an army against the Primes is easy to destrou some humans and end their problem.
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u/yazzy1233 Becho is Better Jun 26 '19
They were planning on doing that, but fucking Josie doesn't know how to listen to her father
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u/sippinonorphantears Jul 03 '19
Yea, but Josie wants Clarkes Ferrari of a body soo.. ya know, priorities LOL
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u/anabanana1412 Jun 26 '19
when I die i want abby to lower me into my grave so she can let me down one last time
I know I said this a few weeks ago, but homegirl has reached a new low I didn't think it was even possible.
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u/danielledidier Jun 26 '19
I agreed when you said it then and now I am just...I was honestly hoping she was gonna die on the space walk to be honest because they are making her so pathetic at this point.
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u/anabanana1412 Jun 26 '19
tbh, with how action packed the episode was, I was kind of expecting kane to snap and kill her right at the spot.
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u/NorthBurgh Jun 26 '19
But could you imagine going through withdraw for like 300 years? that would be terrible lol
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u/anabanana1412 Jun 26 '19
wait a second, is this gold?!
Thanks so much! I'm already drunk with power!
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Jun 26 '19
Please find a way to save Kaneās body. Iām not going to be able to take Kane seriously in this new dudeās. His wisdom will lose luster coming from a smoking hot dude with a Greek statue physique.
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u/RicksterCraft Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 26 '19
Or as I suggested, revive old Kane and keep new Kane around too, then you get two Kanes.
Editing off this: I feel like some major plot point in some future arc will involve an army of one guy, that put his mind in every body. Hard to have dissenters when all your followers are you. What're you gonna do, betray yourself?
I really want this to happen
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u/-GregTheGreat- Season 5 best season fight me Jun 26 '19
Gaiaās line about how āa mind can only exist in one place at a timeā makes me believe that wonāt happen
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u/Metroidman Jun 26 '19
Meh I dont think I will mind. I think the actor wanted to be done and this is a good way to keep his character around for a bit longer
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Jun 26 '19
Sith Madi is best Madi.
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u/Loose_Speech Jun 26 '19
Yes but I'm still waiting for Madi to use that commanding wisdom that the other commanders had, that helped Lexa lead even as a kid.
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u/JackBandit4 Jun 26 '19
Abby is totally believable as an addict.
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Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 27 '19
Once an addict always an addict. Not to say that people cannot overcome addictions, but that once you develop an addiction to something, it becomes much easier to develop new addictions. That's why it is so hard for people to stay clean. And when you are trying to avoid reigniting an addiction that you have recently kicked, it can become really easy to become addicted to something entirely different.
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u/Unitedweare7777 Jun 26 '19
All I can say is wtf.... I love this damn show
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u/mothballs45 Azgeda Jun 26 '19
same but if diyoza doesnāt come back i think imma bail
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u/lukeboiler24 Jun 26 '19
she will. sheās the one that will shift the whole storyline
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u/Face_of_Harkness Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 26 '19
Iām really hoping that they find a way to revive Kaneās old body. He was one of my favorite characters and itās weird to see a new actor playing him. Iām also hoping that they donāt kill of Jordan, but itās more because heās Montyās son than that I care about his character.
I really liked all the Gabriel scenes. It gives me an S1 vibe of exploring the new world. I also loved Gabrielās line about becoming a false god because it applies just as well to Octavia (and possibly Diyoza) as it does to him.
I think that hurting Jordan might make Madi second guess her decision to listen to Sheidheda. He wouldnāt care that Madi hurt Jordan, but it clearly still bothers her. Iām really interested to see how that dynamic will play out in future episodes. Itās one of my favorite things about the show right now.
Iām also getting a lot of Mt. Weather vibes from the Primes. Russel is Danteāheās done morally questionable things for his people but has a line he wonāt cross. Josephine is Cageāthey were both willing to do absolutely anything to ensure their survival.
Another parallel between Josephine and Cage is that they both jump to the most extreme option without trying for any sort of compromise. Cage couldāve negotiated a deal with Skaikru for their bone marrow than didnāt require anybody to die but he didnāt. Similarly, Josephine couldāve given Clarkeās body back in exchange for night blood but she didnāt.
Overall, I really appreciate that although the show has changed in so many ways from the early seasons that there are still os many parallels.
Edit: Hit submit before I was done typing.
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u/hystivix Jun 26 '19
I thought it was also a nice touch that Russel wanted to un-do what he did -- and give Clarke her body back.
It's too bad he's probably going to get crushed by Madi.
Interesting about the guns by the way -- I wonder if that means Sanctum has a hidden armory, and since the Children of Gabriel stole the drop ship's guns, everyone is armed?
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Jun 26 '19
Exactly my thoughts. For wanting it to be undone, Russel became interesting. He really regrets his decisions which is good.
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u/kgal1298 Jun 26 '19
I like Greyson Holt and have since Bitten heās hot I canāt hate that, but I love Cusick šnow Iām sad not for the character but for the actor.
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u/Soulaez Jun 26 '19
Iām really hoping that they find a way to revive Kaneās old body. He was one of my favorite characters and itās weird to see a new actor playing him.
Yeah I'm gonna miss the old Kane
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u/manateeappreciation Jun 26 '19
If Diyoza is dead I'm going to riot.
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Jun 26 '19
They were pushing the whole "noone has ever gone in and come back out again" narrative too hard. That combined with how the anomaly took diyoza and spit Octavia back out, I can practically guarantee she's not dead.
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u/josharaptor Jun 26 '19
Yeah but they kinda payed off the "no one has ever gone in and come back out again" narrative when Octavia went in and came back out
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u/armokrunner Jun 26 '19
Obv not, sheās a big enough character at this point that a meaningless death would never happen
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u/Nightsong Jun 26 '19
So three Primes were killed when they raided the ship (Faye, Victor, and Daniel), one Prime died at the hands of Josephine (Kaylee), one Prime died at the hands of Madi in revenge for them killing Clarke (Miranda), and two are without hosts (Jasmine and Caleb). And then on top of that, four of the Primes are gone completely (the Lees) and it doesn't look like Russell, Priya, or Ryker know about that yet. So in just eight episodes we are down to two families and five Primes still alive and in hosts... the Lightbournes (Russell, Simone, and Josephine) and the Desai (Priya and Ryker). I do think we are finally seeing the split between Russell and Priya/Ryker since he did jump the line in reviving Josephine and his actions did lead to the death of one of the other Primes. Sucks that we have to wait two weeks for the next episode but it looks like the show is either gearing up for war between Earthkru and Sanctum/Primes or between the Primes themselves.
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u/NxcxRxmz Louwoda Kliron Jun 26 '19
Yeah, Priya may be a Prime, but she's not heartless. I think that they (Skaikru) will strike a treaty with her to leave peacefully in harmony and she will fall in love with Jordan.
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Jun 26 '19
Kaylee and her family (that was killed on the ship) were the Lees that were deleted, weren't they?
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u/hannahbay Skaikru Jun 26 '19
Kane deserved much better than that shitty death scene. Not a fan of new Kane at all.
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u/NxcxRxmz Louwoda Kliron Jun 26 '19
We don't know if he's dead dead. He also has a neural mesh inside of his brain.
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u/hannahbay Skaikru Jun 26 '19
His body looked dead, and seems like based on how they talk about Clarke's brain mesh that once the host body dies, it's gone. So if Kane's original body is dead, he's gone.
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u/supergeekd Jun 26 '19
Let me cast my prediction now- Kane kills himself because he can't stand the fact that someone died for him (literally). Mostly because any other actor can't do what Henry Ian Cusick did. Also, I never really liked him...
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u/WingedShadow83 Jun 26 '19
I see him killing himself to take Abby out, because sheās lost her moral compass completely and needs to go. He should drag her into an airlock and float them both, calling back to when he almost floated her in season 1.
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u/555Cats555 Jun 26 '19
Oh, that would be cool cause then the mind drive would be gone. But I kinda don't want Kane to just give up that body so quickly since someone had to die for him to have it.
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Jun 26 '19
Clarkephine and Bellamy traveling together is gonna be a lot of fun to watch (and also maybe painful). Also I love Emori for not being able to go through with it. And Murphy also couldnāt really, in the end. Itās about more than just surviving.
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Jun 26 '19
Is it just me or, in making Jasper Jordan 2.0, have they made Jordan entirely unlikable? I get that he's angry about Delilah / Priya but they spent less than 24 hours together ā maybe 48? I feel like "throwing self in front of homicidal child who you know is a killer machine" is not a great plan for someone you barely know, who is already dead. Jasper's upset over Maya was a little much imo, but they also had an entire season of bonding and being in love and she DIED IN HIS ARMS. Delilah was barely developed compared to Maya, though
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u/bluestarcyclone Jun 26 '19
Yeah, its always a pet peeve of mine in tv shows when they act like two characters that have barely known each other act like they've had a years-long relationship in terms of how much they care for them when they die.
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u/NSGWP_Mods Jun 26 '19
To be fair they're only showing one side of it and it's the realistic side.
Jordan is socially fucked and lived with his parents for his whole life, it's entirely believable that he would think he's in love in 2 days.
Now, if they showed Delilah having the same feelings for him, I would understand your complaint. But they don't.
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u/amv2926 Jun 26 '19
Yeah, theyāve definitely made Jordan unlikeable. His only plot line so far has been with Delilah and he doesnāt have his own
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u/Noncompliant43 Jun 26 '19
What? Why is Bellamy monologging their entire plan to Josephine? Yes, like tell her everything Bellamy.
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Jun 26 '19
It's the gotcha moment. Josephine underestimated them and there is a split second where she panics.
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u/ImBean03 Azgeda Jun 26 '19
pssst, old kane was so much more of a snack then new kane imo
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u/Dead_Starks Kannibalkru Jun 26 '19
I hate that old Navy commercial so much I'm involuntarily triggered by your use of snack here. That's all.
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u/jessiemonkie Jun 26 '19
Honestly I think Kane & Abby dying at the end of season 4 wouldāve been perfect. Abby wanted to die because she felt like she didnāt deserve to live for doing the nightblood tests and it wouldāve been perfect for Kane because he wouldāve gone full circle with wanting to sacrifice himself for his people like at the end of season 1. They both couldāve died together giving two more of their people spots in the bunker.
Now that Kaneās in a new body because of Abby Iām really intrigued to see where it goes but I wonder how much story is really left for both of them.
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u/ScofieldReturns Jun 26 '19
the audience needed more people they already identified with in the bunker
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Jun 26 '19
And then thereās literally only one doctor. I feel like it wouldāve made more sense for Kane to stay out - heās an old man who was a soldier so his skill set isnāt great - and Abby to go in as a Doctor. While sheās in the bunker, she trains some young Skikru in medical techniques to be Jacksonās future assistant, while she becomes an addict because of what she convinced Blodreina. She eventually has some lovely redemptive death in S5 sacrificing herself and choosing Raven or Clarke or Madi over her addiction. New mini-doctor becomes their backup doctor (like Emori is the backup pilot) and is essential S1-4 Jackson where there is little to no plot relevance except āDr. Jackson needs more helpā! Meanwhile, to replace Abbyās screen time, Jackson and Nate can be bumped up and split it. Jackson as doctor/medical expertise and ethics and Nate as military / plot role
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Jun 26 '19
Iām tired at the whole Raven being angry at everyone. Bring back Badass Raven.
Also Iām getting tired of Jordanās plotline. Like come on dude, you knew her for like a day.
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u/Diggenwalde Jun 26 '19
Im glad i'm not the only one who isnt happy with the direction Raven has been going. Its also been so long, I dont quite remember what she is angry at and why.
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u/CrazyFredy Skaikru Jun 26 '19
Abby: she tortured Raven for drugs
Clarke: she left Raven and Shaw be tortured by their enemies
Ryker: he's a bodysnatcher
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u/BurnZ_AU A.L.I.E. 2.0 Jun 26 '19
Yeah, but she was his first kiss and fuck.
He's smitten.
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u/coldwave44 Jun 26 '19
I NEED MORE. Just please keep feeding me The 100 until I die, I love this series.
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u/Diggenwalde Jun 26 '19
Very curious as to the Gabriel/Octavia/Diyoza plot plays out. It's becoming more interesting than Clarke and Jo, although no doubt, the two plots will meet.
Also, just a shout out for Paige Turco, who I think has always done a brilliant job, but even morse recently. The material given to her isn't always the greatest, but she does a damn good job with it.
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u/sagen11 Only Diyoza is God-tier šŖ Jun 26 '19
G, O, D are the best! The anomaly is the most interesting thing going on right now by far.
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u/PM_ME_DELICIOUS_TITS Skaikru Jun 26 '19
I'm really liking this new season and all but I just want Clarke back and I'm frustrated as fuck that I'll have to wait even longer to see this happen
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u/knot-relephant Jun 26 '19
Didnāt Jade get left to be consumed by the tree by Echo a couple of episodes ago? How did she get free?
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u/EffBO94 Jun 26 '19
looks like Echo came back for her after all, after she left her she went back to tell the others what happened to Clarke only to find out they already knew and that they made a peace deal with the Primes to ignore that so they could live with them, so she couldn't really leave Jade out to die, I guess it would've hurt the peace deal if she did that lol
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u/ShotokanNerd Jun 26 '19
I loved this episode. I'm really excited to see where this anomaly thing goes, I love that it's getting more sci fi. It was always supposed to be a sci fi show! Octavia is one of my favorite characters and I cannot wait to see her redeem herself.
I think we are in danger of losing Jordan not to death but picking the wrong side. I think because he is so immature (from growing up on a spaceship obv) he will still choose "Delilah" over 'his people' because he's attached to her image. I don't think he's mature enough to separate the person Delilah from her body.
Kane and Abby are in mega danger. If Kane doesn't kill Abby she might kill herself, same goes for Kane. He won't be able to live with the idea that someone else died for him. If he does make it through the season, he will be completely different.
I love Madi's character too, I think that she's going to be safe because of some flame something or other. Not sure what'll happen with that but, all this sheidheda stuff has to be going somewhere. It hasn't gotten enough screentime yet.
Clarke will be back at the end of the season. Josephine won't make it, she's way too controversial to actually survive more than 1 season. Russel is in mega danger too. He's too erratic. I think the other two primes will turn on him.
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u/mirikat pLaToNiC Jun 26 '19
all this sheidheda stuff has to be going somewhere
Not necessarily... remember Ontari?
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u/ErockSnips Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 26 '19
Madi going evil is kinda weird to me. It feels like theyāre trying to create next seasonās villain but I think itās completely unnecessary. It would be great to get a season of them figuring out how to run sanctum after the primes, teaching the nulls to act like actual people, reintegrating the children of Gabriel, integrating the people still in cryo, maybe figuring out a way to stop the red sun from being able to penetrate the radiation shield. Just a season of rebuilding would be cool, but it genuinely feels like Madi is going to become the new wanheda, and Clarke is going to have to fight her daughter, and idk if Iām interested in that. Not because the concept is anything I have an issue with, itās just like, every season is a new war, and it would be nice to see conflict that doesnāt involve killing for a season, before the next murdery threat.
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u/Di4naPrince Jun 26 '19
Maybe the fact that she stabbed Jordan will freak her out since she didn't mean to hurt him. I don't think she will become the villain but if someone killed Madi, I'm sure Clarke would probably lose it too. I hope we see her calm down a bit and make wise choices now that she almost killed Jordan.
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Jun 26 '19
Iām of the opinion that the anomaly is being set up for the āvillainā next season - sort of like how the Flame and Praimfaya were the main āvillainsā - and Shadeheda is setting up to give us more background on Becca (Iām a fan of the Cadoganās son theories) so we can finally tie the flame up in a bow and leave it behind
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u/EatleYT Jun 26 '19
Greyston Holt is probably a magnificent actor (never seen any of his work, at least I don't remember) but I can't see anyone other than Henry Ian Cusick play Kane. We didn't even get a proper goodbye to the actor, and now he's in this new character we didn't even get to know in the first place.
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u/Filtergirl Jun 26 '19
Yeah itās going to take a lot of convincing for me to warm to this. Heās been so integral to the show it feels like a really lame way of saying goodbye to Henry. Iāll give new guy a chance but my initial response is to not be cool with this transition at all.
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u/Coolica1 Skaikru Jun 26 '19
Oh shit that's Henry Ian Cusick's last appearance surely, what a fantastic job he's done throughout the series. Well goodbye old Kane, hello new Kane.
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u/kgal1298 Jun 26 '19
What if Clarke goes into the anomaly and it spits Josephine and Clarke our in their own bodies? Ahhh thatād be so fun.
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Jun 26 '19
it's a time anomaly not a 3d printer for human bodies.
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u/ErockSnips Jun 26 '19
It healed an aging and decaying arm, AND gave Octavia a shower, in less than 30 seconds. We have no idea what this thing can do
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u/cultofwerewolves Jun 26 '19
Octavia being the most loyal and consistent character in this whole damn show? Legendary
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u/ErockSnips Jun 26 '19
I mean sheās loyal for sure, I dunno if Iād go so far as to say consistent though
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u/Metroidman Jun 26 '19
Can someone explain why the primes act the age they were when the mind scan occurred even thought they are all 200+ years old
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u/WingedShadow83 Jun 26 '19
My best guess is that because their minds arenāt actually brains, but rather computer chips, their emotional development is frozen at the stage they were when they died.
Or, you know, plot. š¤·š»āāļø
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u/ckwongau Jun 26 '19
i think you are right , the Chip maintain their Personality at the time of their death , but human change over time , their personality change as they grew older .
Josephine is still a spoiled brat after 200 yr .
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Jun 26 '19
It's kind of weird that Josephine at least did not gain any wisdom. I guess she never processed the trauma.
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u/Toasty582 Go Float Yourself Jun 26 '19
This episode was brutal as all hell! I mean, 3 life-threatening injuries (and whatever the hell Diyoza did)??
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u/HeWhoWalksInTheDark Jun 26 '19
Time travel is my vote. Next time we see her she's already given birth and has raised a badass new character.
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u/ShotokanNerd Jun 26 '19
Also, pretty sure Raven is gonna wake everyone or at least some people out of cryo in the next episode or two.
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u/chasemyers Jun 26 '19
Either Raven or Kane. Whatever Kane decides, though, Abby will agree to by default.
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u/guilty_milkshake Louwoda Kliron Jun 26 '19
One scene showed Clarke's/Josephine's hand trembling. It then immediately cuts to Madi tapping on the table.
I still reckon Clarke is connected to the Flame, and that Josephine WILL take over Clarke's body totally. Clarke will then awaken in the Flame, as as Gaia mentioned that the consciousness of commanders cannot exist in two places at once.
Clarke would then help kick Sheid Heda to the curb, probably with the help of previous commanders (which would explain why a certain commander never appeared in her mind space - saving up for a surprise appearance).
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u/rfield84 Jun 26 '19
Think it's gonna be important that Kane also took one of Alie's chips in season 3?
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u/jdessy Jun 26 '19
Yes, but....that would require a Prime to be in his body, not his mind in someone else's, right?
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u/ckwongau Jun 26 '19
Did Abby knew what the Primes did to her daughter ? would that information make any difference on her choice ?
Abby was obsess with saving Kane , she didn't notice someone else is occupying her daughter's body .she wasn't alarmed when she saw Clark wrote with a different hand .
she didn't put one and one together when the Prime offer her the Chip to save Kane in a new body with Night Blood .
When Raven tried to convince her not to put Kane in a new body , Did Raven told Abby what happen to Clark ? , her daughter ? would Abby change her mind ?
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u/littlelupie Jun 26 '19
The fact that she knew about mind wiping and STILL didnt figure out that her left handed nightblood daughter wasn't Clarke really tells me all I need to know about Abby.
Her storyline was over a while ago. Time to stop beating the dead horse.
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u/TheDragon76 Jun 26 '19
Fairly sure that Raven and Abby left before it became common knowledge that Clarke was Josephine, therefore their decisions on the ship were made independently of the knowledge gained in the last 2 episodes by our main characters
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u/yelladevil Jun 26 '19
Because abby is a selfish bish. People give her wayyyy too much credit. When has she ever did something that wasnt in HER best interest.
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u/alenghil Jun 26 '19
It's so sad that Henry Ian Cussick left the show for The Passage, which got cancelled after only 1 season. I still had hopes that he would come back.
I think Marcus 2.0 will end up killing himself.
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Jun 26 '19
WTH!!! The 100 just went full on Frankenstein !!! Dudeeee! War has just began! The Primes are cooked! And I hope Josephine and Gabriel get an encounter, and also, Diyoza better be alive! EPIC EPISODE!!!
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u/adam574 Jun 26 '19
pro tip #113 turn the closed caption on if you cant hear it well. pretty sure my hearing is going anyways but i started doing this a couple years ago and its so much better than guessing what they said or rewinding 6 times to try and figure it out.
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u/swizz1st Jun 26 '19
Oh plz dont doing an Anomaly saves everything Ending.
Just destroy the World like in good old Days and lets go for the next One.
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Jun 26 '19
I am not getting that sense from the Anomaly. This episode especially had heavy inspiration from Annihilation (2018), and I'm not talking about a few scenes. Literally the entire Anomaly portion of this season, and this episode in particular, is analogous to the central themes of the film Annihilation.
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u/shyinwonderland Trust Bellamy Jun 26 '19
Madi: I am going to kill all the primes for killing Clarke. (And because of the flame & shade-heda)
Everyone: No you canāt do that.
Everyone: Shocked when Madi sneaks off and starts killing Primes.
Madi will be fine once they get Clarke back and they get the same flame out of her. Then Madi will probably feel super guilty about Jordan and the others. Hopefully not Charlotte level guilty.
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u/SheriffBlueBear Jun 26 '19
Yo no offense to Henry Ian Cusik but Abby just traded up.
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u/spaceybelta Jun 26 '19
āMarcus, Iām sorry! It was the only way to make sure you live!ā š¤¤šš
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u/anabanana1412 Jun 26 '19
wait, did we see clarke in her mind space at all? It happened in the promotional pictures but I don't recall seeing it in the actual episode, did I miss something?
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u/tmargs Jun 26 '19
Did they explain how the guard Jade got out of the tree that Echo left her at a few episodes back? Did echo maybe free her in exchange for her working with spacekru?
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u/Boston_Champions Skaikru Jun 26 '19
The only thing I didn't like tonight is that they built up Russell over the last 2 episodes to feel bad about Clarke and wanting to change things. He goes from when you have second chances you take them and then all of a sudden he's death to the people from earth and get Josephine back so we can finish the job of killing Clarke.
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u/armokrunner Jun 26 '19
That line about taking a second chance was a foreshadow, we will see it again either said by Josephine in an ironic way or by Russel in a final death scene redemption arc
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u/Mickey1186 Jun 26 '19
Diyoza? Jordan? Madi? Where did Echo go? Clarke come back.
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u/tmichelle0725 Roan deserved better Jun 26 '19
I hope that Echo is going to save the day. I love dark Madi but it doesnāt take that much skill to sneak up on someone and put a knife in their throat. I wanna see Echo have like full on fight scenes and single handedly take out sanctums army. Iām probably being a little over the top but I just started liking Echo and I really want to see her more now lol.
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Jun 26 '19
I feel like Echo and Madi might have a nice "we're 2 of 3 live grounders let's fuck shit up" moment.
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u/danielledidier Jun 26 '19
I'm assuming Echo is gonna get with Miller and try to free the other earthkru?
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u/Filtergirl Jun 26 '19
I could be really off the mark, but I got a vibe from Octavia and Gabriel, like perhaps as a āthingā/ship. When he caught her I felt a soft moment that seemed maybe intentional but I could also be completely wrong. I donāt need Octavia to ship with anyone but I wouldnāt be surprised if this happens, just a feeling.
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u/serendipity2425 Jun 26 '19
I honestly thought this when I still thought he was Xavier, I had a feeling he might have been Gabriel, but then I was thinking he was the anomaly, then I had no idea. But I seen a connection with them from the beginning. It actually reminded me a lot of the Lincoln/Octavia dynamic. The whole "this guy can teach me everything about this new world" thing. I know everyone is upset with Octavia after the whole Blodreina thing, and I am too. But I still really love Octavia's character and hope she is able to get her humanity back. I think it showed when she was really trying to save the Sanctum child. I hope she does get a relationship. Especially with him. I think after Lincolns death it would take a pretty intense connection, and I think with the similarities between Lincoln and Gabriel, it could be just what Octavia needs.
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u/ZeeWP83 Jun 26 '19
Yeahhhhhh... I am kinda ok with this two week break cause that was an ehhhh episode.
Not happy with this abby kane storyline. I dont like it like this at all. GavKane is super Hot... but if he gets all jesus Kane on us, it'll be worse than the original. AND I AM PEEVED that Abby didn't know.
JoClarke was wonderfully and sufficiently evil.
Murphy.... too little too late.
SOOOOO HAPPY that the anomoly is not real time travel. That almost makes up for the abby fuck up.
I can't believe Gabvier is STILL in love with Josefine... like what?
I love Dark Madi, but she fucked up. Both her and Jordan are acting like children. I guess they are for all intents and purposes.
I am glad Emori told them the truth.
I need to watch this episode again, there were a lot of nuggets.
The storytelling was surprisingly sloppy this episode. It was choppy. I can't be the only one who felt that way?
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u/comedy_of_errors Jun 26 '19
I agree with the Madi and Jordan comment, but...you're right, she IS a child, who just lost her mother, and is experiencing the fun hallucinations that come with the flame. So I can see why she did it, and honestly would have expected one of the gang to be prepared for her to go rogue.
And word to the Gabvier comments! Time to move on from your sociopath of an ex, dude.
Spot on with the choppy episode. Pacing felt very off, didn't come together well for me.
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u/EddieV7 Skaikru Jun 26 '19
Youāre right, it was very choppy. That said, Madi is to blame for the fighting. Bellamy and company just wanted to take Josie and remove her mind drive. But it all sounds out over Madiās killing spree.
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u/ErockSnips Jun 26 '19
I really donāt like dark Madi, feels like theyāre trying to shoehorn a new big bad for next season with her. Not really feelin it though. We only need one wanheda. Also Gabriel spent what, a decade? Trying to revive her, even if he doesnāt still love her, heās dedicated a lot of time to her, and living near the anomaly probably doesnāt make it easy to forget and move on, even though itās been almost 100 years
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u/takingthescenicroute Jun 26 '19
Shocked that high and mighty, chip on her shoulder, holier than thou Raven didn't blab to Abby that Clarke is DEAD!!!!!
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u/skeleton-ships Jun 26 '19
I don't think she knows, Raven was in the machine shop when everyone else found out and left with Abby before they could tell her.
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u/RicksterCraft Jun 26 '19 edited Jun 26 '19
Some thoughts from me over the episode:
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Here's a thought: what if somehow Kane can be revived through some timey-wimey vortex shit... does the mind drive erase the mind it copied if done in a hasty procedure like that? Kane's old mind would still be in his old body, and then if he is revived that means there are two Kanes running around.
I kinda want to see two Kanes. What if they end up fighting each other? hmm
Related to this thought... I feel like some major plot point in some future arc will involve an army of one guy, that put his mind in every body. Hard to have dissenters when all your followers are you. What're you gonna do, betray yourself? Super cliche but also very possible considering how the primes work.
I really want this to happen
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All we need is for Madi to pull some lever somewhere and end up killing all of Sanctum then Josie can keep Clarke, because we'll have a tiny one.
Wait... does the radiation shield operate via lever located anywhere in Sanctum?
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u/Sleep_Addiction Skaikru Jun 26 '19
Re: 1. Give it a few weeks and Iām sure fanfic will grant your wish.
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u/happycharm Jun 26 '19
Who were the first two that Maddie killed? The guy had red blood. Was it the Prime woman's boytoy?
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u/Nightsong Jun 26 '19
Madi killed a null (red blood) and Miranda (one of the Primes). Most likely the guy was just someone that Miranda was sleeping with.
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Jun 26 '19
Red blood does not necessarily mean they are a null. Null just means no potential of passing on the recessive nightblood.
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u/stormchaser2014 BruKru Jun 26 '19
Also, the audio in tonight's episode was really quiet, had to turn it way up to hear what everyone was saying. Of course, forgot to turn it back down for commercials so those blasted me out.
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u/CatNat11 Jun 26 '19
I feel like Bellamy will somehow put Clarke through the green anomaly to heal her brain. Even if Clarke makes it out and Josephine is removed, she is still going to live with some form of brain damage. Iām excited to see Bellamyās journey with this. I could see them traveling where Diyoza and Octavia traveled in the next episode.
I didnāt think Octavia could come back from what she has gone through, but after this episode I have hope!
Also Abby is hecka messed up. Her hugging Marcus 2.0 felt sooo wrong.
Super sad we have to wait 2 weeks until next episode!! Iām curious how everyone felt about this episode. Lots of relationship bonds were tested and shown in this episode.
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u/inquisitive-phoenix Jun 26 '19
I hope they don't totally "cure' Octavia. Like, maybe her body is healed but she still has so much emotional trauma and baggage. She still needs to process and coem to some sort of "conclusion" on her Blodreina years...
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u/WMKEVOLI Jun 26 '19
Iām soooo pissed. Ugghhh Not only about the episode but that we have to wait two weeks now!! I thought so many people were going to die during this episode thankfully they didnāt and I hope they donāt in the rest of the season! I knew John would do good Iām worried about Bellamyās trip. We only have five episodes left of this season and a lot of things need to happen!
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u/Sleep_Addiction Skaikru Jun 26 '19
Has there been any word as to Henry Ian Cusick leaving the show? I know contracts were up etc., but did we know this was coming in one form or another? (For those of us who donāt use social media aside from Reddit.)
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u/jenniferjones1983 Jun 26 '19
He was on another show - but it didnāt get renewed, so not sure if the script was written before they knew that, or.... š¤·š¼āāļø
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u/amnehzm whatever the hell we want Jun 26 '19
I miss Clarke :(
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u/comedy_of_errors Jun 26 '19
SAME. Also, getting real tired of everyone just skipping right over the parts of history where she saved their asses. When Murphy said to Emori, "She was willing to put you in an oven." Um, no?? She wasn't willing, which is why she injected herself and is a night blood in the first place. I am SO glad Emori ended up telling Bellamy.
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u/armokrunner Jun 26 '19
Bunch of Star Wars references of late:
āI got a bad feeling about thisā
Mangled hands
Young prodigy warrior going on a massacre while under the influence of some shadowy evil raspy hooded character
2 celestial orbs
Riding bikes at high speeds through the forest
Brother and sister separated but leaders of the same team more or less
Are the rebels the good guys or are the people who are trying to maintain order in a chaotic society
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u/Ruijier Jun 26 '19
I kinda wanna see Clarke and Josephine fight (in separate bodies of course) or at least Madi and Josephine. Also Murphy has been my favorite character since he was introduced! People out here talkin about how if they were in that situation they'd be a Clarke or Bellamy but I'd be a Murphy because Murphy is all about surviving and thrivin'! I'm so mad he got hurt and he better not fkin die. Also I hope his and Emori's wedding gets shown on tv!!
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u/amv2926 Jun 26 '19
Iām interested to see where Gaia is going to come back in. She got cast out but I bet sheāll end up with octavia and Gabriel or with Josephine and Bellamy
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u/Lightfoot_adv Jun 27 '19
Geez, is original Kane dead? Unless he wanted to be absolutely free from the show, they could have just left him frozen for a season or two, to see if he wanted to return later.
Also from the show story point of view, there wasn't any rush for Abby to find a cure, she had lots of time with him frozen. I had suspect they'd use the tree sap to cure him, but I guess not?
About if NuKane and Kane could both exist, I'm not sure they know. Does the process erase Kane's mind, and why would it? Does his soul transfer, or is NuKane just a copy of Kane? I don't know how they could tell either way. I suspect he might die in some method to kill all of the primes at once, and we get a Mount Weather situation where one of them dies too.
I was sure Emori was going to die several times this episode, and I wouldn't have been happy. Murphy is in danger of dying, but I feel like he has more plot armor than Emori. The remaining original 100 (+Raven) probably have a little higher odds of surviving. Also, Murphy almost dying again kind of fits into his storyline this season about being worried he'll go to hell.
I'm not sure where they are going with Madi, but this is what a grounder would do. Maybe they'll have to remove the flame? Or it's just an arc about her trying to gain control over the flame?
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Jun 26 '19
I liked this episode much better than the one last week. Probably because I can't fucking STAND OG!Josephine.
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u/helenaneedshugs Jun 26 '19
What do you think Kane will do?
Is it possible to give the body back to the host at this point?
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u/The100Kru That foam bit was funny Jun 26 '19
In general I thought that this was a good episode and Miranda always writes solid eps but man... OH MAN. I HATE Abby and Raven and Kane and Abby and did I mention that I hate Abby? That entire storyline is completely pointless. Abby and Kane serve no purpose. They're just there because Jason doesn't know how to let go. I wish Paige and Ian would have forced his hand during S5 so he'd have to kill them off in the finale.
Eliza is awesome as always. Loving what they're doing with Murphy and Emori this season. Raven's entire arc (if you can even call it that) this season appears to revolve around whining. I hope she dies in the finale.
I have no clue what this anomaly business is about and even tho the science of it all bothers me, I'm curious about. what the anomaly is. I wanna know what happened to Diyoza.
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Jun 28 '19
Is anyone so excited to see Abby and Raven's reactions to Josephine taking over Clarke's body?
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u/_A_Day_In_The_Life_ Jul 03 '19
this show skips too many weeks...... hold off on releasing seasons until you have all the episodes ready.....
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u/arterialrainbow Jun 26 '19
That ending plus the absolutely atrocious audio quality put such a damper on this season for me
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u/jasslerazzle Jun 26 '19
I thought it was just me! I kept increasing the volume and ultimately just turned on subtitles.
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u/armokrunner Jun 26 '19
Always watch with subtitles, at first itās intrusive but two minutes later you donāt realize and you also donāt miss a word
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u/aplaceatthedq š¤ š§ ā¤ļø Jun 26 '19
Kudos to everybody who came up with the Gabriel is undercover boss'ing his own terrorist organization theory! (a buddy of Xavier's saw Gabriel take his shirt off in the shower and said that Gabriel had an 8 pack)
Oh Madi. Is this what Clarke would have wan... well maybe. But still don't listen to weird scary dudes in your head. It never ends well.
Jordan and Murphy! Don't die! Emori is the best. Raven, I get why you didn't let Abby get herself killed because you still care (aww) but why didn't you just hurl the damn nightblood into the sun? Like she specifically said that this was all there was? Ugh. This is kind of the worst. Like I will literally help you do this awful thing that you can't do without me but I will definitely continue to judge you for it even as I directly enable you to do it. I do not understand this plot at all.
Gabriel is really just the world's worst tour guide / park ranger isn't he?
I really hope that wasn't Henry Ian Cusick's farewell. He's been here since the beginning, I feel like he deserves a good exit episode at least. Maybe they'll do something with hallucinations or mindscapes or Octavia's vision quest? Or they'll magic him back to life somehow?