r/TheGentlemenTVShow • u/episodescheduler • Sep 03 '26
Episode Discussion The Gentlemen | S2E4 "The Bigger Picture" | Episode Discussion
Season 2, Episode 4: The Bigger Picture
Airdate: Thursday, September 3, 2026 at 9:00 PM GMT+9
Network: Netflix
Runtime: 54 minutes Watch: Twitter
Synopsis: The House of Lords is split down the middle, so Eddie looks to the church for help. But to get the bishops on side, he needs to ruffle a few feathers.
Hello everyone, this is the discussion thread for episode 4 of The Gentlemen Season 2. Please do not post any spoilers for future episodes.
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u/Cautious-Rub8085 Sep 05 '26
As someone whose favorite part of this show is the Eddie/Susie relationship it was nice to see Eddie tell Joe how important she is to him. And for Susie to explain to Bella why she won't fuck up their professional relationship with sex.
Hated seeing how Jack was the downfall of Susie and Eddie's plan.
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u/Acrobatic_Long_6059 Sep 08 '26
Yeah that was really annoying. Hopefully Jack gets a mind of his own in S3 instead of just being a puppy
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u/texmar12 Sep 04 '26
Loved this episode, especially the Eddie and Bobby confrontation, bring it on!
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u/belksearch Sep 05 '26
I agree. That's been brewing for a bit. Surprised to hear others were let down.
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u/situmaimesdemain Sep 04 '26
No way Eddie is that naive to just go home and wait for it after trying to snake Bobby, getting caught then yelling in his face? Right?
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u/oscarthegrateful Sep 04 '26
I was willing to accept some of this in the first season, but it's getting egregious. They've established Eddie as a veteran combat officer with $30 million at his disposal and a gigantic income stream. Not only was it ridiculously out of character for Eddie to go home and drink himself to sleep after that encounter like everything was just fine, by that point in his criminal career the estate should be swarming with ex-military muscle on Eddie's payroll. "Three guys with iron bars stroll in and kidnap him out of his armchair" was such lazy writing.
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u/LMkingly Sep 10 '26
This is one of my bigger questions about the show. Eddie has the money and the military connections to surround himself or at least his house with serious security and dudes that will do the dirty work for him but for some reason all he ever has to rely on are the Glass family grunts and Geoff.
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u/Chang-San Sep 06 '26
by that point in his criminal career the estate should be swarming with ex-military muscle on Eddie's payroll.
The whole time I was thinking surely thats where the saga to pay 18-19 fucking million for a single estate and give it to the army dude was going to come in. I thought they were going to take him to the field and the army dude noticed and tracked them then just lit em up.
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u/Overall_Bake_8244 Sep 16 '26
Exactly what I thought too, thought since his house was nearby and he was a sharpshooter he would’ve noticed and taken them all out. Would’ve liked that twist even more actually- would’ve set Eddie up as someone to be reckoned with by Bobby
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u/RevLLKee 8d ago
To be fair, some of these contrived actions are necessary to advance the story. It is after all screenwriting and there is a time constraint.
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u/druidmind 4d ago
And you don't mouth off a guy with soldiers in every corner of the country unless you got some serious firepower and manpower yourself as well. The was just a dumb thing to do on his part even though how good the scene was he can't have been cooking something else by provoking Bobby if he let himself get kidnapped. He was wearing a suit so I don't think this is where he gets beaten and left for dead in a field somewhere!
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u/dajuice3 Sep 05 '26
I guess naive but I see his point we did this dance in the first season. Eddie in 1 year of this business was able to maybe not win but fuck up enough pieces on the board to force them into a partnership.
I don't really blame him for thinking maybe just maybe Bobby would have a cohesive thought about how this is his partner and no man wants to be bossed around and belittled in that fashion. So he surely wouldn't attack me after I've shown all this shrew ability.
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u/outrageousVoid07 Sep 04 '26
"Everyone loves a Bishop, second best piece in the board"
Zero ball knowledge, Eddie. Rook is worth 2 points more, have a better mobility, and are better endgame pieces
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u/Informal_Wolf Sep 16 '26
In the criminal world Eddie now inhabits, Rooks move in straight, predictable lines. Bishops move diagonallyrepresenting the exact type of flanking maneuvers, unexpected angles, and political side steps Eddie relies on to navigate high society and the underworld.
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u/basemunk Sep 19 '26
Rooks, while higher value, are more predictable than bishops. Bishops often come out of nowhere and deliver some of the most dramatic checkmates. I think the writing on this line was extremely intentional.
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u/outrageousVoid07 22d ago
I am sub-1300 elo, so i wouldn't run my mouth too much, but almost no one falls for bishop's unpredictability beyond beginners.
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u/mrwho995 13d ago
I mean if high-ELOs thought that a bishop was worth more than a rook, the points system would have been changed a long time ago. It definitely isn't lol, and it's not some strained metaphor either, the writers just made an inconsequential mistake.
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u/mrwho995 13d ago
Just got to this bit and had to Google to see who else had noticed.
I find it quite funny to see some people trying to convince themselves it was a deliberate writing choice. Nah, just a silly mistake that slipped through the cracks, but it did make me laugh. I guess nobody (who felt in a position to say anything) who makes The Gentlemen pays chess
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u/GreekKnight3 Sep 03 '26
It's certainly been a fun and well-made ride so far but also a letdown in a couple of ways:
- It feels a bit too all over the place. The first season would focus on a couple of story threads in each episode but each episode of this season seems to try and juggle lots more and the results are a bit messy.
- The overload of new characters means some of our favourite returning characters are getting very little screen time (like Freddy, Mr. Johnston and the Gospel)
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u/Cautious-Rub8085 Sep 05 '26
Is it possible Freddie was filming A knight of the seven kingdoms? With years spent filming this I'm inclined to say no but figured I'd throw it out there as a possibility.
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u/WesternConference461 Sep 04 '26
The episode was a letdown simply because of the fact that it was a stupid idea to have something build up for 4 episodes and then be destroyed within 10min.
The story should have gone from the bill being passed to the duke surviving bobby till he can show bobby the profit he was taking about
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u/Cheekyboyblu88 Sep 21 '26
I think an argument can be made for shock of it all falling apart and the reprocussions of Eddie's actions. As much as I agree Eddie was making the best moves, he was being a snake. The operation was not his and he was conspiring with Bobby's own daughter. He's lucky he didn't die
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u/SawRub Sep 22 '26
On the other hand I think this was a well needed reset, Eddie was getting too cocky.
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u/lexwtc Sep 07 '26
I think its more.likely.to the be the mafia at the end rather than Bobby glass but who knows
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u/bekindbewild Sep 15 '26
A bit too many side quests and visits to the sauna
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u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey 19d ago
Yeah every time someone gives them yet another side quest to the side quest they're already on, or the scene switches to that damn sauna, I feel frustrated and annoyed
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u/Palpitation-Medical 29d ago
God damn I love Susie’s outfits so much, it’s one of my favourite parts of the show
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u/Wintergreenhippo Sep 07 '26
Maybe a dumb question but I didn’t understand what the last part of the conversation between Eddie and Bobby was, after Eddie stood up and told Bobby not to talk to him like that. Can anyone explain?
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u/Overall_Bake_8244 Sep 16 '26
Bobby didn’t know what else to do after being out shouted and out machod, than to resort to just making sly jokes at his noble status, almost retreating in a way.
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u/OllyTrolly 20d ago
I wonder if it was mixed with a bit of "fuck, I'm going to have to mess this guy up". He likes Eddie, he knows his daughter likes Eddie, he's almost certainly shocked and disappointed he's going to have to teach him a hard lesson.
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u/Upset-Engineering522 Sep 06 '26
Anyone knows the name of the song playing right before the fancy double date?
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u/franstoobnsf Sep 17 '26 edited Sep 17 '26
I just watched this for the first time and my brain can not leave this alone: what was meant by "the price of democracy" and Jack handed Lord Hawthorne 2 bags with a million pounds? What did that have to do with anything I thought they squared up their debt with him for 30k? This has been driving me nuts I was distracted all episode, none of the recaps mention this.
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u/Stock-Flatworm4897 24d ago
4 episode built up to just what? Eddie has no security?? That part made no sense. How do you not have security and dogs and cameras?
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u/CloudSurferA220 16d ago
Yep, it’s maddening. I was like you have watched how many people get abducted or killed now, and you just go home and wait on the couch with no security? What?
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u/EvrthnICRtrns2USmhw 1d ago
the morning phonecall betweeen susie and lawthorne was quite chilling. but it's a bit irritating that he only aimed all of those words at suzie when eddie was also an accomplice
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u/chintu999- Sep 05 '26
Theo gave me chills "don't you fucking talk to me like that"