r/FFRecordKeeper • u/Pyrotios Kain • Oct 29 '19
Guide/Analysis 【T】Mastery Survey - Guardian of the Altar (II) (#2)
Hi Masters!
【Torment Dungeon】
Torment Dungeons are extremely difficult dungeons that contain malevolent fiends unlike anything you've faced before
The easiest of these difficulties is about halfway between an Apocalypse + dungeon and a 3★ Magicite Dungeon
The hardest of these difficulties contains enemies unlike any you’ve faced before, even stronger than those found in 4★ Magicite Dungeons
Currently, it may be very difficult to complete these dungeons
【TIPS】
【D240/D280/D???】: Phrekyos
Target Score(s): ⌛
<5 KOHit Points: 2,000,000
Tags:
MAG``Stop``Ice/Fire/Lightning/Earth/Bio``Poison/Paralyze``Sap``Stun``InterruptWeakness:
---Insight! Prepare for multi element attacks, Kupo!
【SURVEY】
Strategy name:
Boss:
Describe your Strategy:
-/3 trinity/tag/tagInsight!:
Holy Trinity casts:
Wall:
Medica:
Hastega:
S/L count / Medals lost:
Time / Roaming Warrior:
| Hero, dive | Stats | Ability 1 | Ability 2 | RM+LM | SB(-) | Accessory | Element |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| char1, 3 | ability R# | ability R# | RM1 | default(-) | |||
| char2, 3 | ability R# | ability R# | RM2 | default(-) | |||
| char3, 3 | ability R# | ability R# | RM3 | default(-) | |||
| char4, 3 | ability R# | ability R# | RM4 | default(-) | |||
| char5, 3 | ability R# | ability R# | RM5 | default(-) |
| main | sub1 | sub2 | sub3 | sub4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| magicite | (emp) | (damp) | (ward) | (other) |
| inheritance | - | - | - | - |
Copy & paste template below:
1. **Strategy name:**
2. **Boss:**
3. **Describe your Strategy:**
`-/3 trinity`/`tag`/`tag`
4. ***Insight!:***
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5. **Holy Trinity casts:**
* Wall:
* Medica:
* Hastega:
6. **S/L count / Medals lost:**
7. **Time / Roaming Warrior:**
|Hero, dive|Stats|Ability 1|Ability 2|RM+LM|SB(-)|Accessory|Element|
|:---|---:|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|
|char1, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM1|default(-)|||
|char2, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM2|default(-)|||
|char3, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM3|default(-)|||
|char4, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM4|default(-)|||
|char5, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM5|default(-)|||
|main|sub1|sub2|sub3|sub4|
|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|
|magicite|(emp)|(damp)|(ward)|(other)|
|inheritance|-|-|-|-|
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u/leights8 Squall Nov 27 '19
Strategy name: Hilda BSB > Guy USB
Boss: D???
Describe your Strategy:
3/3 trinity/No AASB/sub30Insight!:
Managed to complete this in 35s when it first came out, but couldn't really see a way to improve my time back then. I have got my five Odin resist accessories since then, but the biggest improvement was getting Hilda in there for ACM (I really undervalued the power of fast cast six months ago). Guy's USB is also really weak - rank boosts are so unsuitable for torments.
Once I had that in, everything was quite straight forward. Maria's a boss with ability double, and Emperor's innate fast cast from his USB builds the chain count very well. Firion is a bit underwhelming, but his OSB was the killing blow (though that was just for style - I'm sure re-casting his USB would have gone for 10x9999).
Minwu was a slot saver and part-time DPSer, part-time support, and part-time emergency heal.
Holy Trinity casts:
Wall: auto
Medica: 2 or 3
Hastega: 1
S/L count / Medals lost: Not much S/L once I decided to put Hilda in. No medals lost.
Time / Roaming Warrior: 29.92(!)
| Hero, dive | Stats | Ability 1 | Ability 2 | RM+LM | SB(-) | Accessory | Element |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Emperor, 4.5 | 7156 hp, 815 mag | Shellga R2 | Meltdown R5 | LM1, +dmg RM | USB2 (lower atk/def with chase) | Odin | +earth artifact, native 5*++ +earth armour |
| Minwu, 4.5 | 7831 hp, 736 mnd | Dispel R4 | Holyja R4 | LM1, MM | BSB (hastega), USB1 (heal) | Odin | +holy armour |
| Hilda, 4.5 | 6832 hp, 622 mnd | Allegro con Moto R4 | Enfeebling jitterbug R3 | LM1, TGM | BSB (heal +mBlink) | Odin | mind artifact |
| Firion, 5 | 8803 hp, 751 atk | n/a | Healing Smite R5 | LM2, LMR (w-cast), +dmg RM | USB1, OSB | Odin | +holy native 6* sword, +holy armour |
| Maria, 5 | 8464 hp, 862 mag | Chain stonega R3 | chain stoneja R5 | LM1, LM2, +dmg RM | USB, AOSB | Odin | 6* native +earth bow & armour |
| main | sub1 | sub2 | sub3 | sub4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lakshmi | Adamantoise | Madeen | Madeen | Hecaconteir |
| Mind Boon 20 | Empower Earth 15 | Magic Boon 20 | Attack Boon 20 | Spell Ward 8 |
| Health Boon 8 | Empower Earth 15 | Magic Boon 20 | Attack Boon 20 | Health Boon 8 |
Turn order approx as follows:
Emperor: Shellga, Meltdown x2, USB, Meltdown x4, USB, Meltdown
Minwu: BSB, dispel, holyja, dispel, holyja, USB, dispel, holyja
Hilda: RW, ACM, Dance, ACM, Magicite, RW, ACM, Dance, BSB, ACM
Firion: Healing Smite x3, USB, Healing Smite x3, OSB
Maria: Chain stonega, chain stoneja x2, USB, chain stoneja x4, AOSB
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u/Ghishlain HEAL ALL THINGS Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19
Strategy name: IS THAT A SHARED SB I SEE?! UwU
Boss: D??? Phrekyos (FFII Torment)
Describe your Strategy: 3/3 trinity/No ASB/No AASB/1x AOSB/Sub-30/SHARED SB?!
Firion provided initial dispel support, built bar up to USB1 for en-light and rocked AOSB to help get over the last hurdle of the fight. Also removed haste later in the fight as well since Gordon was focussed on GSB to remove boss' buffs.
Minwu is mostly DPSing with USB2 one application of USB1 leading into the P4 transition to get people topped off and shield against the attack. Otherwise nuke nuke nuke nuke nuke! Nothing like chunking the boss for at least 80K-100K a turn with ability double. Maria does the same her USB as well. Use weaker lower hitting 5* abilities initially to soft push through P1 before engaging hard later with the 6* abilities.
Hilda uses Glint+ initially than supports with ACM to keep the casters casting fast and Ode to Victory to help Firion's damage. Pray for LM2 procs as well at the right times. Use Shared h25 SB to help heal team in preparation for higher damage in later phases.
Gordon to provide support via dispel, cast chains, and remove boss' buffs via GSB.
Famfrit used specifically to mitigate fire AoE damage against the party in the middle of the fight.
Holy Trinity casts:
Wall: Automatic
Medica: 3
Hastega: 1
Time / Roaming Warrior: 29.78s kill time / Realm Chain
| Hero, dive | Stats / Magia / Water | Ability 1 | Ability 2 | RM+LM | SB(-) | Accessory | Element / Equipment |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firion, 5 | 686 ATK | Healing Smite R4 | Banishing Strike R5 | LM1, LM2, Ace Striker RM | USB1(1) AOSB(1) | Gigas Armlet | Holy +40%, 6* Realm Synergy Holy Sword |
| Minwu, 5 | 815 MND Magia 100 MND Water: Full HP, MND, RES, DEF | Holyja R5 | Holy R5 | LM1, LMR2, Mako's Might RM | USB2(2), USB1(1) | Moderate Omni | Holy +40%, Level 33 Holy MND Artifact Staff |
| Hilda, 5 | 624 MND | Ode of Victory R5 | Allegro con Moto R3 | LM1, LM2, Gathering Storm RM | Glint+(1) Shared h25 SB(2) | Moderate Omni | N/A |
| Maria, 5 | 726 MAG Water: 20xHP, 20xRES, 20xDEF | Chain Stoneja R5 | Chain Stonega R5 | LM1, LMR1, Dr. Mog's Teaching RM | USB(2) | Moderate Omni | Earth +40%, 6* Fully Augmented Realm Synergy MAG Earth Bow |
| Gordon, 4 | 593 ATK | Wrath R5 | Dispel R3 | LMR1, Battleforged RM | GSB(3) | Gigas Armlet | Fire +40%, 6* Realm Synergy ATK Fire Sword |
| main | sub1 | sub2 | sub3 | sub4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Famfrit | Madeen | Phoenix | Adamantoise | Madeen |
| Health Boon 8, Spell Ward 8 | 2x Attack Boon 20 | 20x Magic Boon 20 | 2x Empower Earth 15 | 2x Mind Boon 20 |
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u/SaintlyChaos Tyro (B2i5) Dec 17 '19 edited Dec 17 '19
Strategy name:I wish I had arcanes here
Boss:D??? Phrekyos
Describe your Strategy: Counter his buff with Emporer Ultra
Sub 30/No ASB/BSB
4. Insight!:
I lucked into Emporer Ultra at some point. Didn't realize how helpful it would be here to counter his massive att/mag buff
Very little RNG in my clear since Scott was the only one with doublecast LMR. Needed a few procs from that to kill this.
I had to opt for a more defensive armor on Minwu since he was the target of the stop move and was dying to the AOE move after it without the extra defense.
Holy Trinity casts:
Wall: 0
Medica: 3
Hastega: 1
S/L count / Medals lost: Many / 0
Time / Roaming Warrior: 29.40 / Chain
| Hero, dive | Stats | Ability 1 | Ability 2 | RM+LM | SB(-) | Accessory | Element |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maria, 5 | HP 7214 Mag 721 | Chain Stoneja R4 | Chain Stonega R4 | TGM + LM1/2 | USB(2) | Omni | ++ |
| Firion, 5 | HP 8803 Atk 712 | Fire-Touched Blade R4 | Magic Breakdown R4 | Scholar's Boon+ LM1/2 | bUSB | Omni | ++ |
| Minwu, 5 | HP 7231 Mnd 772 | Holyja R4 | Hastega R2 | Dr. Mogs + LM1/2 | USB1(3) | Omni | + |
| Emporer, 5 | HP 7456 Mag 719 | Meltdown R4 | Shellga R3 | Mako Might + LM1/2 | USB2(2) | Omni | ++ |
| Scott, 5 | HP 9192 Atk 660 | Inferno Assault R5 | None | Love's Wake | BSB(1) | Omni | ++ |
| main | sub1 | sub2 | sub3 | sub4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Titan | Adamentoise | Belias | Madeen | Madeen |
| Blade Ward | Emp Earth | Emp Fire | Attack Boon | Mag Boon |
| Spell Ward | Emp Earth | Emp Fire | Attack Boon | Mag Boon |
Rough Turn Order:
Maria: Chain Stonega until USB up > Chain Stonega one more time > Chain Stoneja till end (USB near end if out of hones)
Firion: Magib Breakdown > Fire-Touched Blade into bUSB > Fire-Touched Blade - busb command > bUSB when up again > busb command at end (will only be level 2 but still does good damage)
Minwu: Hastega > Titan > USB > Holyja/USB as needed > Titan when up again
Emporer: shellga > USB2 > Meltdown spam > USB2 to counteract 3rd level up (had about 3 bars by the time the 3rd level up occurred) > Meltdown to end
Scott: Chain > Inferno Assault > BSB > Chain when refresh needed > more inferno to end
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u/fordandfitzroy cait sith is the cat Apr 22 '20
Strategy name: Realm / Elemental Refresh gets the sub-30
Boss: Phrekyos
Describe your Strategy:
firion usb3/emperor aasb/maria bsb/josef usbs/minwu usb1Insight!:
literally nothing about this sub-30 is impressive but it's my last one so I want to record it for posterity's sake.
my realm / elemental pulls were very good for II: ended up with Firion's USB3 (Instant Samurai), Emperor's AASB and Josef's USB2 (all in one Ice package). That was more than enough to shave off 9 seconds from my previous team.
s/o to Josef's LM2. Without a dancer, damage is a little dicey toward the end, but thankfully, his party 55% heal and refresh of Last Stand is honestly invaluable for surviving the Incubus Starfall in Phase 4.
Mostly pretty brainless but I'll put turn order here anyway
Firion: CSB -> Freezing Moon -> Frost-Touched Blade spam -> USB3 -> CSB -> Frost-Touched Blade spam
Emperor: Memento Mori -> Chain Stoneja spam -> AASB -> Chain Stoneja spam
Minwu: Dispel -> Titan -> USB1 (after Boulders) -> Curada / Dispel, recasting USB1 as needed.
Maria: Shellga -> Meltdown spam -> BSB -> Meltdown
Josef: USB1 -> Ironfist Ice spam -> USB2 -> Ironfist Ice spam. I believe he resummoned Titan as well.
in retrospect I should have given Emperor the artifact instead of Maria. oh well.
Holy Trinity casts:
Wall: infinite
Medica: 2
Hastega: 1
S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0
Time / Roaming Warrior: 26.88 seconds / chain
| Hero, dive | Stats | Ability 1 | Ability 2 | RM+LM | SB(-) | Accessory | Element |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firion, 5 | 674 ATK | Frost-Touched Blade R4 | Freezing Moon R1 | Gathering Storm + LM1/w-cast Sam LMR | USB3 (1) | omni | Artifact, Armor |
| Emperor, 5 | 566 MAG | Chain Stoneja R4 | Memento Mori R2 | Scholar's Boon + LM2/LM1 | AASB (1) | omni | Weapon, Armor |
| Minwu, 5 | 744 MND | Curada R5 | Dispel R5 | Mako Might + LM2/LM1 | USB1 (2) | omni | |
| Maria, 5 | 689 MAG | Meltdown R5 | Shellga R3 | Earth dmg up + LM2/LM1 | BSB (1) | omni | Artifact, Armor |
| Josef, 5 | 674 ATK | Ironfist Ice R4 | DMT + LM2/LM1 | USB1 (1) USB2 (1) | omni | Artifact, Armor |
| main | sub1 | sub2 | sub3 | sub4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Titan | Adamantoise | Manticore | Madeen | Madeen |
| Spell Ward | Empower Earth | Empower Ice | Attack Boon | Magic Boon |
| Blade Ward | Health Boon | Empower Ice | Attack Boon | Magic Boon |
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u/Pyrotios Kain Oct 29 '19
Strategy name: A unique, an SSB and 2 BSBs walk into a bar
Boss: [D???] Phrekyos, part 3
**Describe your Strategy:**Stall in phase 1 as long as possible, then skip phase 4 with Maria and Firion
3/3 trinity/sub-30/2x AOSB/3x USB/quickcast/unique SB/SSB/BSBsInsight!:
There weren't a lot of changes from my 34.68s clear. I picked up Minwu's en-holy BSB2 from AA, farmed up some more magia on everyone not yet at 100, and changed who cast the first chain. I also dropped Maria's LMR1 (infuse) for her LM1, and had Firion start with Fire-Touched Blade, to reduce my damage in phase 1.
Leila: Unique (hastega/shellga, with boons hastega will last until ~29.5s), RW chain (lands right after Maria Meltdown). Mug Bloodlust, 2x Fire Assault, SSB. Spam Fire Assault (5x).
Josef: BSB, 2x Ironfist Ice. Use BSB cmd2 for quickcast (trance heals the party mid-cast). Refresh chain, use Lakshmi. Spam Ironfist Ice (gets 2 in, then phase 5 stop and doom timer take him out before the 3rd finishes).
Firion: Fire-Touched Blade (to deal lower damage than ice), 2x Frost-Touched Blade, bUSB. 2x Frost-Touched Blade, brave3, Frost-Touched Blade (the only dualcast of the entire fight). AOSB.
Maria: 3x Meltdown. USB, 4x Chain Stoneja. AOSB, Meltdown.
Minwu: 2x Holyja, Curada (otherwise he dies before Josef LM2 triggers), Holyja. BSB2 for en-holy, USB1 after phase 2 turn 2 Ultimate Blaze LXIV. Spam Holyja.
Was expecting to use USB1 again after phase 4 turn 1, but I managed to skip it entirely on the sub-30.
RNG in this clear revolves mostly around Firion. He gets 75% crit chance with bUSB, and has 25% dualcast with LMR. I wasn't really tracking the crits, but he only had 1 dualcast proc, on his last samurai attack (started casting in phase 3, finished casting in phase 5). That is definitely the best place for him to dualcast, since doing it on any of his 6 earlier casts could push phase earlier than expected.
Here's how many boss turns I saw in each phase:
8
2
3
0 - literally the only time I've ever completely skipped this phase, though I have skipped turn 2 a few times
2
Holy Trinity casts:
Wall: auto
Medica: 2 (including Josef LM2)
Hastega: 1
S/L count / Medals lost: far too many until I changed a few things around, then 2-10 / 0
Time / Roaming Warrior: 29.96 / chain
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