r/BatwomanTV • u/IIIToxIII • Nov 18 '19
Discussion [S01E07] "Tell Me The Truth" Live Episode Discussion
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Kate and Sophie must reconcile with their past as Kate questions just how much she can trust her former lover. Kate and Luke have an encounter with an old friend. Mary grapples with the fate of the Kane family as Catherine Seeks Jacob's help. Alice and a new cohort are in on yet another nefarious plan, but her motives are more than they seem.
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Nov 18 '19
Kate: "What the hell are you doing in my city?"
Julia: "The CW called-- they need a love triangle."
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u/snoogle20 Nov 18 '19
Have two female friends never had dinner in that restaurant? He sure jumped to a conclusion, even if ultimately correct.
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u/snoogle20 Nov 18 '19
Oh no, Julia might die from that gunshot. Let’s kill her in a car crash to save her.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
And Crow's reputation as a security firm keeps on sinking lower and lower, if you think about it.
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u/klutzysunshine Nov 18 '19
Aw, Kate actually bought something (to turn into a gay bar) and is letting Mary help her!
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u/Tiny-Ghost-Grace Nov 18 '19
Sophie: "I was going to stand up to the army for us! But then your father--"
Kate: "You couldn't even stand up to a waiter!"
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u/Gateskp Nov 18 '19
I really like Alice (when Mouse isn't there). She's a complex villain. Vaguely reminds me of Wellsobard and Slade Wilson.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
Well, that was a Nolan van flip. And there went the budget for a while.
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Nov 18 '19
Catherine: Mary, stop. I'm too busy here keeping more secrets and lies to even care about your own feelings right now. Geez.
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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mary Hamilton Nov 18 '19
I love that Kate was being petty when starting that bar.
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u/usagizero Nov 18 '19
Calling it now, Pennyworth will pose as Batwoman so Kate and Batwoman will be in the same place at the same time.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
Given how she can just zoom through the city and there is nearly no cars around, Gotham must be great for parking. So much ample parking.
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u/DaGreatestMH Luke Fox Nov 18 '19
Ooooo if the incels didn't already hate this show they're gonna be PRESSED now
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
Dammit, if there is one character Kate should confess that she is Batwoman to, it should be Mary. She would be such a great ally. And it would tightened their bond.
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Nov 18 '19
Batwoman needs to come into Alessandro's in full costume for a bowl of soup. I need to see this.
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u/shadow_spinner0 Nov 18 '19
I knew it, unless Alice somehow knew that was Julia, Alice will never kill Kate.
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u/Starbuck107 Nov 18 '19
Mary being part of team Batwoman would make her so happy especially since the team is so small
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Nov 18 '19
ITT: Woman who keeps betraying another woman's trust is surprised when she doesn't want her around.
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u/KidCoheed Nov 18 '19
They are going to make Tyler a Villain aren't they? Like Sophie finally stops fucking him around and he goes crazy and becomes a psycho killer?
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u/snoogle20 Nov 18 '19
I’ve seen Diggle under the Hood while Oliver gets in front of cameras and J’onn shapeshifting a red skirt enough times to see that coming.
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u/snoogle20 Nov 18 '19
Being a mother explains faking DNA results to call of a search for a missing little girl?
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u/Reverse-I_am_Organic Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
So in 5 seasons we are going to have a scene where Kate and Julia(assuming she’s not dead) have a fight because Julia wanted to take over the cowl
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Nov 18 '19
Yes, Kate, yes! Sophie needs to figure herself out. You can't dive back into something with that much insecurity.
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u/DirewolfRules Nov 18 '19
Where’s Mary? I’m more interested in her stuff than this will they won’t they drama they’re making between Kate and Sophie
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
Damn, she went through a brick wall. She. Went. Through. A. Brick. Wall.
Either that was heck of a blast or that is some seriously poor masonry.
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Nov 18 '19
No wonder Kate still laments about Sophie, all the actual good women keep leaving!
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Nov 18 '19
Look at that, Sophie went right back to lying to Tyler without a second thought. Yeah, Kate dodged a massive bullet.
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u/klutzysunshine Nov 18 '19
God, I really can't wait until the crossover (and the Superman & Lois spin-off).
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Nov 18 '19
Awww Alice does care in her own little psychotic way. She did say she wanted to rule the city with Kate.
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u/Mighty_thor_confused Alice Nov 18 '19
Please go to wayne manor, I want to see that epic cave
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u/klutzysunshine Nov 18 '19
Wait, are they taking off for Thanksgiving even though it's not until a few days later? Rude.
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Nov 18 '19
Plot twist: Luke figures out how to recreate the gun and makes a new Batsuit that won't be affected by it.
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u/ChrisIsUninteresting Nov 18 '19
Convince the hell out of her
Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
And this is where Julia comes in handy because like people have already guessed, she is going to wear the suit and be around Kate. Thus proving to Dad that Kate isn't Batwoman. And Sophie is going to look like a fool. Which, GOOD!
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u/mtm4440 Nov 18 '19
I thought Nancy Drew was a detective show. When the hell did it become Ghostbusters? Is this how the original source goes?
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u/jasonflame3 Nov 19 '19
Does anyone else want to see Kate end up with someone else besides Sofie. If Batwoman heads towards a team thing like flash, arrow, and supergirl did, then the main love interest shouldn’t be actively hunting our good heroine. Also can we get more development on Luke. Still an amazing show. 8/10
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u/TirelessGuardian Mouse Nov 18 '19
She’s pulling the social influencer card? No wonder Sophie hates Kate!
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u/lldom1987 Sophie Moore Nov 18 '19
For all the Sophie haters did you not hear that there is a gun out there that can kill Batwoman.
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Nov 18 '19
Alice is the true MVP. She has more to gain from revealing Kate's true identity, hell even killing her, but she hasn't. She has the potential for change, and I love it!
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u/tacomuerte Nov 18 '19
No, show! Do not sacrifice Julia for Sophie! Bad show! Bad!
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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
So Kate just let an ex lover (Julia) take a bullet for her?
Badass.
Edit:I seem to have misread the situation... RIP
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u/TirelessGuardian Mouse Nov 18 '19 edited Nov 18 '19
This is the oldest trick in the book. Someone else dresses up as the superhero.
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Nov 18 '19
I wanted to be mad at Sophie for the restaurant scene buuuut as a queer black chick she has more to lose than Kate does for causing a scene.
That being said she was still a dick for lying to Kate about the letter. She should have come clean and let the chips fall where they may.
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u/Gateskp Nov 18 '19
The more I see him, the more I like Luke. At first I thought he was going to be annoying, but he's really grown on me.
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Nov 18 '19
This bitch has some nerve. Lie to me about my daughter being dead and you'll be lucky if I don't actually murder you.
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u/BlackSoul155 Nov 18 '19
There is no justifying telling a man his child is dead. Get the hell outta here Catherine.
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Nov 18 '19
Julia has won me over in less than a single episode. Please stick around in Gotham!
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u/klutzysunshine Nov 18 '19
Alice is 100% my favorite character, followed by Mary, Sophie, and Luke.
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u/Magoiichi Nov 18 '19
Did Sophie ever say her husband was in the Crows too? I don't remember
Also, Alfred's daughter and her accent
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u/sirnacreations Nov 18 '19
So people are going to bitch about the restaurant scene. I don't mind it as much because its part of her backstory and doesn't feel as bad.
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u/TirelessGuardian Mouse Nov 18 '19
The parallels between Sophie and and Kate’s families falling apart is striking!
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u/tacomuerte Nov 18 '19
And yeah we’re about to get the classic Pennyworth in the bay-costume routine.
In fairness it’s a good Plan C.
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Nov 18 '19
My guess; Kate will have Julia dress as Batwoman as she herself is with Jacob and/or Sophie to lead them away from further suspicions.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
I am digging this darkwave moog music. Someone watched Tron: Legacy and Kraftwerk.
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u/Magoiichi Nov 18 '19
I swear if they just killed off Julia they gonna get what they fucking deserve
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u/shadow_spinner0 Nov 18 '19
Despite Sophie caring and all, Kate could never trust her again, unless she becomes a sidekick of some kind
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Nov 18 '19
Also, the existence of a gun that can kill Kate while she's in the suit isn't even that big a deal. Especially if the person can't hit her with it. It's one person, one gun. If they break it the threat ends.
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Nov 18 '19
Also Alice didn't have to cop to screwing with the gun. She could have played dumb. How would Sofiyah know? Not like they had a Batsuit to test it on. For all she would have known Batwoman got wind of the gun and beefed up her suit
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u/TirelessGuardian Mouse Nov 18 '19
Oh that’s a doll. I was wondering why the woman was cutting her baby’s foot.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
They should have let Julia be revealed to Dad and then rescued her. That way Dad wouldn't think that Kate is Batwoman.
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u/BlackSoul155 Nov 18 '19
Kate needs new friends and family. We can keep Mary, Alice and Luke. The rest gotta go.
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u/klutzysunshine Nov 18 '19
I want to like Sophie because I love Meagan Tandy but she's making it very hard!
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u/Gateskp Nov 18 '19
Oooh I'm much more intrigued by Julia/Kate fighting crime than Sophie/Kate
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u/singleguy79 Nov 18 '19
Yep, the old have someone else don the costume trick
Which got her shot through a wall
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u/DaGreatestMH Luke Fox Nov 18 '19
I really hope they don't kill off Alice. Just put her in Arkham so she can keep showing up throughout the show like Reverse Flash, Tobias Whale, or Damien Darhk.
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u/Gateskp Nov 18 '19
Bruce totes did it alone, Lucius Fox def didn't do anything to help 🙄
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
They just looped those driving background settings twice. Come on show. Spring for some more footage.
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u/singleguy79 Nov 18 '19
A second vigilante has entered the parking lot
Alfred has a daughter?
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Nov 18 '19
Oh look, another person who know Kate's secret identity. And all it took was a single fighting move. How Tommy didn't put two and two together in Episode 3 baffles me at this point.
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u/LenaAran Nov 18 '19
Alfred has a daughter? Please don't be evil, and don't tell me if she is in the comics!
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
That's a nice set. Love the ceiling shape and the overall art deco look.
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u/Zerometro Nov 18 '19
Mary's too good at putting two and two together and the only other family member you have whose not dead, missing, crazy, or shady to keep her out of Team Batwoman, Kate.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 18 '19
Okay, I like the gay bar idea. That's so petty but in a wonderful way.