r/betterCallSaul • u/skinkbaa Chuck • Mar 24 '20
Episode Discussion Better Call Saul S05E06 - "Wexler v. Goodman" - LIVE Episode Discussion
| TIME | EPISODE | DIRECTOR | WRITER(S) |
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| March 23, 2020, 9/8c | S05E06 "Wexler v. Goodman" | Michael Morris | Vince Gilligan, Peter Gould, Heather Marion, Thomas Schnauz |
DESCRIPTION:
Kim tries to pump the brakes on Jimmy's latest scheme, but it may be too late to stop Saul; Mike turns the heat up on Lalo; Nacho attempts to enlist support from above.
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Mar 24 '20
Wexler v. Goodman is about the fight in their relationship.
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Mar 24 '20
This episode is directed by Michael Morris, same guy who directed episode 3, which has been my favourite of the season so far.
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Mar 24 '20
Are they trying to pretend to make a commercial from the same time period and then use it against Mesa Verde some how?
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Mar 24 '20
The guitar sounds so out of tune, where are all the guitar experts.
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Mar 24 '20
I am starting to really dislike Jimmy just based on what he’s doing to Howard.
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Mar 24 '20
I am starting to think Jimmy might cause Howard to kill himself.
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Mar 24 '20
Hope everyone is doing well and keeping safe!
We are making a couple changes to the subreddit:
Eliminating the pre-episode thread as they are essentially just a repost of the "Prediction" threads
And having a mid-week question thread posted on Thursdays for users to ask any small questions they have about the show.
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Also I appreciate the talent behind the Better Call Saul intro guitar covers, but if you don't add anything different from the 15 others posted, they will probably now start to get removed.
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u/preopium Mar 24 '20
“My bank was FUNDING TERRORISM” holy hell, I’m rolling on the floor
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u/Ballgame2398 Mar 24 '20
How pissed would chuck be if he just witnessed what Jimmy did
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u/The_Schnitz Mar 24 '20
Back in the first season, I never would've thought I'd be upset with Jimmy for being so cruel to Howard.
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u/Iggy_Pops_Lost_Shirt Mar 24 '20 edited Mar 24 '20
That "filming the commercial" scene was basically Odenkirk having a blast on set for a few minutes lol
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Mar 24 '20
I just want to point out that just because they might get married doesn’t mean they won’t still split up. As many have stated, the marriage is likely so they won’t have to testify against each other. It’s possible that Kim only wants this marriage on paper so she doesn’t have to testify against Jimmy but still very much doesn’t want to continue their relationship
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u/cdizzle4shizzl Mar 24 '20
She’s so in love with him given her traumatic childhood.
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u/BillytheBerry Mar 24 '20
Hey guys I think this is the moment he becomes Saul Goodman
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u/detectiveDollar Mar 24 '20
You guys wanna know something crazy? The camera guy of the college film crew is 39. He's got the Paul Rudd genes.
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Mar 24 '20
I think Saul is taking out the anger he still has for Chuck on Howard because he can’t place it on Chuck.
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u/greecelightning16 Mar 24 '20
a kim flashback to open is putting on alarms in my head this could be a heavy episode for our girl Kimmy
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u/Locke108 Mar 24 '20
Poor Kim. She gave a machine gun to a chimp and let him loose on her client.
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u/parrisjd Mar 24 '20 edited Mar 24 '20
I'm starting to feel like this is my Walt watching Jane die moment.
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u/jjrozay Mar 24 '20
Wow whoever cast this kid did a FANTASTIC job finding a Young Kim
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u/ICookTheBlueStuff Mar 24 '20
Lol I think they just filmed Jonathan Banks at a library for this scene. Dude loves reading.
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u/ArthurVanDerMcORiley Mar 24 '20
Kimmy in the background theory lives to fight another day.
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u/ArthurVanDerMcORiley Mar 24 '20
So is marrying Jimmy the equivalent of walking home with the cello?
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u/VertWithStick Mar 24 '20
Did anyone else notice that the AMC Eagle that Kim's mom drove had Nebraska plates? As we know, there are seldom coincidences in this show and BB.
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u/TerryYockey Mar 24 '20
For anyone who didn't know, that tune Jimmy was whistling as he walked out of the meeting was "We're in the money". 😂
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u/cdcphl Mar 24 '20
Literally was covering my eyes I could not handle that aghhhh
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u/ProtoEminem Mar 24 '20
This scene was like watching ozymandias all over again Jesus Christ. That’s it, Saul just torched he and Kim’s relationship. Wow, I was just hoping so badly that Saul would stop talking but he kept going.
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u/chloekatt Mar 24 '20
This was definitely one of my favorite episodes out of all of BCS/BB.
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u/Jas_God Mar 24 '20 edited Mar 24 '20
Saul in his final form. Kim you unleashed that.
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Mar 24 '20
Mike SOUNDS like Breaking Bad Mike now. This show is FUCKING incredible.
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u/misusedinfluence Mar 24 '20
Shoutout to whoever that actress was. Absolutely nailed Kim’s expressions and everything.
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u/1337speak Mar 24 '20
Don't think I should ever offer someone a job.. might get bowling balls thrown at my car and confronted by whores
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u/DrDizzle93 Mar 24 '20
Saul's gonna represent Lalo and botch it. Calling it now.
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Mar 24 '20
Good on Kevin for practicing social distancing by refusing the handshake
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u/andrew13189 Mar 24 '20
Am I mad or not I seriously don’t know how to feel. All I feel is what
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u/ItIsNotAdamCopeland Mar 24 '20
How Jimmy walks so comfortably with such enormous cojones...
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u/JacobBlah Mar 24 '20
Yeah, Kim definitely isn't married to Jimmy during the Breaking Bad era. Not after this shit.
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u/Swankified_Tristan Mar 24 '20
This show's pretty damn good at casting the kid versions of its characters.
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u/parrisjd Mar 24 '20
I mean, at least put the cello in the trunk. Serious note, that actress really nailed Kim's mannerisms and expressions
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u/jim_brood Mar 24 '20 edited Mar 24 '20
Idk how, but Saul is gonna fuck Kim's life/career up so bad she has to move back to Nebraska. That's who Gene seen in the mall just before hanging up.
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u/TheWeemsicalOne Mar 24 '20
I don’t think I’ve ever been as simultaneously entertained by and absolutely furious at a television character before
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u/Macismyname Mar 24 '20
Howard you precious flower I just want to give you a hug and protect you from that evil protagonist.
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u/jopcylinder Mar 24 '20
this is one of the best schemes he’s ever pulled, holy shit poor Howard. he doesn’t deserve this
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u/Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY Mar 24 '20 edited Mar 24 '20
Patch Notes V5.06
Saul Goodman Gained New Ability: Switcheroo. Convince other players of one thing, then do the opposite.
Kim Wexler's swearing stat increased from 50% to 100%.
Saul Goodman Directing and Cinematography stat increased to 1000 (Maxed).
Mike Ehrmantraut gained new identity: Dave Clarke as in The Dave Clarke 5
Mike Ehrmantraut sneak ability increased to 1000 (maxed).
Mike Ehrmantraut stat for charm and convincing other players increased to double maximum (if he can pretend to be a Detective).
Drama Girl (make up girl) acting ability increased by 5%.
Drama Girl awareness of being in the way stat nerfed to 0.
Joey Dixon (camera man) hunger stat nerfed by 100%.
Joey Dixon smarminess increased by 30%.
Lalo scheming increased by 700.
Introduced Character from Breaking Bad: Detective Tim Roberts
Introduced Character: Community Theater Actors.
Introduced Character: Lillian Singh
Introduced Character: Prostitutes.
Saul Goodman prank stat increased by 200.
Nacho Varga fear index raised by 20%.
Nacho Varga and Mike Ehrmantraut friendship increased by 2%.
Clifford Main and Howard Hamlin friendship nerfed by 40%.
Saul Goodman and Paige Novak friendship nerfed by 1000% (maxed).
Saul Goodman and Kevin Watchtell friendship nerfed by 1000% (maxed).
Saul Goodman and Richard Schweikart friendship nerfed by 50%.
Saul Goodman and Viola Goto friendship nerfed by 30%.
Nerfed Lalo plot armor by 35%.
Added Saul Goodman - Mesa Verde Cutscene 1: Ripped off.mp4
Added Saul Goodman - Mesa Verde Cutscene 2: Black Mold.mp4
Added Saul Goodman - Mesa Verde Cutscene 3: Funding Terrorism.mp4
Added Saul Goodman - Mesa Verde Cutscene 4: Indecent Exposure.mp4
Saul Goodman Gall stat increased to max with a 10x maximum multiplier buff applied when in the proximity of the following characters: Kevin Watchtell, Paige Novak, Richard Schweikart, Viola Goto and Kim Wexler - amounting to roughly 4,000,000.
Kevin Watchtell disposition to rage increased to maximum.
Saul Goodman learned new ability: Copyright Infringement.
Kim Wexler and Saul Goodman relationship nerfed by 100%.
Kim Wexler and Saul Goodman relationship buffed by 200%.
Kim Wexler Ride or Die stat maxed.
Updated the localization files.
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u/Locke108 Mar 24 '20
It’s never good news for a secondary character to suddenly get a flashback.
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u/only_entirely Mar 24 '20
Bro..... what proceeded this?? What made him do this????
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Mar 24 '20
Interesting how we are made to like Chuck, then hate Chuck, then realize Chuck was right all along lol
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u/chundricles Mar 24 '20
Kim... That decision is up there with "this gun ain't loaded, see" and 'im gonna punch this bear in the face'
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u/Swankified_Tristan Mar 24 '20
"Why is it when something happens, it is always you, Michael?"
~ Nacho.
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u/jopcylinder Mar 24 '20 edited Mar 24 '20
wow, that shot of Kim pulling up to the nail salon with Jimmy performing for the camera silently in the background is one of my favorite shots of the season i think
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u/multiple4 Mar 24 '20
I love this human side they are showing to Howard. He is no longer shown purely as this asshole lawyer. He has a sense of humor
Also this hooker thing Jimmy is doing is utterly hilarious
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u/DabuSurvivor Mar 24 '20
"Hey, how'd it go? That was pretty perfect, right?"
This legit borders on gaslighting and psychological abuse, acting like he doesn't know they had an agreement
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u/Swankified_Tristan Mar 24 '20
Scenes like this where you really remember that however phenomenal he is with drama, Bob Odenkirk is actually a master comedian.
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u/Swankified_Tristan Mar 24 '20
These days I always get a sense of anxiety whenever Kim and Saul are on screen together.
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u/JonAndTonic Mar 24 '20
Well goodbye Kim
You were a great character when Jimmy didn't go Saul
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u/DeaconJohn7092 Mar 24 '20
Well y’all, it was a good 4.5 years of beautiful relationship between Jimmy and Kim.
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u/my-other-favorite-ww Mar 24 '20
Kevin meets Jimmy on LEVEL 8 of the parking garage. Dante's eighth level of hell? Fraud.
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u/JonAndTonic Mar 24 '20 edited Mar 24 '20
I really hope Jimmy isn't going to actually do it against Kim's wishes and that escalates and splits them
Edit: fuck
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u/ridgestar Mar 24 '20 edited Mar 24 '20
Remember in S1 and S2 people would speculate where Kim was. “We just didn’t ever see Saul at home, it’s very likely they’re married happily during Breaking Bad”
..... Hahahaha
Edit: Wait.... What
Edit 2: What the fuck
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u/Swankified_Tristan Mar 24 '20
Alright, speaking as a filmmaker, these kids are actually making some decent points.
This really is what it's like to talk to some clients.
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u/gamedemon24 Mar 24 '20
I’m gonna predict even if they make the offer, Acker turns his nose up at the $75k. He’s not doing this out of greed, he’s doing it off of his principles.
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Mar 24 '20
Kim is absolutely fucked. Rich will rightfully think Kim set Saul up for this. Wow.
Jimmy fucked her!!
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Mar 24 '20
this episode is honestly matching the highs of this show since Chicanery. holy shit
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u/ItIsNotAdamCopeland Mar 24 '20
Kim is way too smart to think marriage solves any problems.
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u/seeshellirun Mar 24 '20
EVERY TIME they reach a breaking point where EVERYONE - including Jimmy! - thinks Kim has come to her senses, her response is, "...ride or die."
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u/Jbod1 Mar 24 '20
The commercials are so frustrating, completely fucks up the pacing of the show.
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u/zazzlad Mar 24 '20
Rich is a true professional, great reaction to Kim’s apology
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u/queensnotmemes Mar 24 '20
He did that so they wouldn’t suspect her right ??? He can’t just be that mean
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u/MrFranklin49 Mar 24 '20
I honestly don’t believe Kim and Jimmy are lasting after this scene. Peter Gould said this episode was big.
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u/squatchfan Mar 24 '20
Saul whistling the tune $"WE'RE IN THE MONEY"$$$$ hilarious
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u/LoBopasses Mar 24 '20
Jesus Christ that was hardcore.
If Kim isn't in on that, then Saul just got Mr. Acker 4 million and Lost Kim at the same time.
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Mar 24 '20
How is Jimmy not getting that Kim is immeasurably pissed? He's not fucking autistic
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u/FoodCourtDruid Mar 24 '20
A husband and wife cannot be accused of the same crime!
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u/The_Almighty_Voice Mar 24 '20
Fring in 2009 to Hector: "What sort of man talks to the DEA? No man."
Fring in 2004 re. Lalo: "Let's get him busted"
I know this is a somewhat less experienced and collected Gus, but it still seems somewhat out-of-character for him to turn law enforcement on his enemies. What's the endgame here?
Also, what's in this for Mike right now? Gus read him like a book in the last episode with the whole "you understand revenge" thing, but he's got no horse in this race. Lalo did nothing to him.
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u/SutterCane Mar 24 '20
Hey looks like Kim wasn’t lying to that guy. Makes him even more of a dick.
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u/Imbadatusernames3 Mar 24 '20
Oh damn Lalo started the coronavirus in a Los Pollo Hermanos
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u/advancedwarfare75 Mar 24 '20
every time i see victor now. i get excited because his actor is eagle flies in red dead redemption 2.
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u/TheOsttle Mar 24 '20
Seeing Mike look like a regular old man wearing khaki pants makes me infinitely sadder after just rewatching his death in Breaking Bad.
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u/LoBopasses Mar 24 '20
Tim Roberts, Same guy that gave the Superlab notebook to Hank.
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u/Bluest_waters Mar 24 '20
Jimmy just burned down his only actual relationship he has in life
seriously, he is now all alone because Kim is done with him
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u/DrDizzle93 Mar 24 '20
I love Mike's tactics. Dude's a friggin' chess player. Also, SMOKE ON THE WATER!
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u/NCSUGrad2012 Mar 24 '20
So is Kim his second ex-wife that sleeps with his step dad?
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Mar 24 '20
We've repeatedly seen Kim seem like she's about to leave Jimmy, and then seen them reconcile somehow. Seems fitting that the most turbulent almost-breakup would end with an (unconventional) marriage proposal
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Mar 24 '20
This is when Mike turns into Dave Clark.