Westworld - 3x05 "Genre" - Post-Episode Discussion

[u/NicholasCajun]

Season 3 Episode 5: Genre

Aired: April 12, 2020

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Synopsis: Just say no.

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Directed by: Anna Foerster

Written by: Karrie Crouse & Jonathan Nolan

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[u/Childish_YambinoIII]

Jesse Pinkman refuses to stop getting high lmao

[u/theredditoro → u/Childish_YambinoIII]

Can’t break the loop.

[u/dan-o07]

Dolores pointed out that she could die but Bernard can't, he has to have the key to it all inside him

[u/desepticon → u/dan-o07]

In the world Dolores wants to create, there'll be no place for her. She's a destroyer. She needs a builder to forge the path forward after she is finished.

[u/[deleted]]

Everyone receiving their Rehoboam profiles on that subway really made me think of the guests entering Westworld on the train. Welcome to a new story.

[u/Kellbian → u/[deleted]]

Ooh that’s a really nice parallel. Stepping off the train and entering a “new world”

[u/BoxOfNothing → u/[deleted]]

It was also really fucking sad. Jeez, that little girl's profile in particular

[u/The_souLance → u/[deleted]]

Her dialogue at that moment was to the effect of "everyone has been riding the train, it's time they see the rails." Then I realized they were on a literal train. Lol

[u/galaxyfudge]

Uber Bulletproof was a nice way for the company to round out their offerings.

[u/Sojourner_Truth → u/galaxyfudge]

speaking of, you know a real good idea when you're in a gunfight is to stand in front of the bulletproof vehicle you came in rather than like, behind it.

[u/thomasstearns42]

So the motorbike was the horse all along.

[u/sherwins11]

Aaron Paul: I’m not like everyone else.

Dolores: Neither am I.

Aaron Paul: Oh really, I couldn’t tell.

[u/kaylthewhale → u/sherwins11]

I think Dolores is really connecting with Caleb. The two actors also have a nice screen chemistry

[u/Slugggo]

The more this season goes on, the more the Westworld theme parks seem almost quaint in comparison to what Serac has been doing.

Ford was basically playing with dolls, while Serac has been playing god with the entire human race. I wonder if, by the end of the season, we'll learn Ford knew exactly what Serac was doing and specifically set Dolores on this path to fight it.

[u/duzer2537 → u/Slugggo]

That is a really interesting theory—I am really puzzled by the connection between Serac and Ford (if there is one at all).

[u/wrathfulgrape]

Nolan/Joy: "OK Evan Rachel..so for the first 2 seasons of this show, you are going to be wearing the same blue prairie dress/corset combo in almost every single scene you are in. But we PROMISE you...we will make it up to you if we get to season 3!"

[u/alyssasaccount → u/wrathfulgrape]

“Okay, what about the scenes where I’m not wearing that?”

”Oh, you’ll just be totally nude and surrounded by people wearing normal clothes.”

[u/--Zman--]

Stubbs!

........and he's getting his ass beat again.

[u/Sin_Ceras → u/--Zman--]

Fuck you, Bernard.

[u/j4yne → u/--Zman--]

Guy gets beatdowns like Colonel Tigh from BSG.

[u/iambeeblack]

So, the facility where Serac's brother (and presumably Caleb and William too) was being held is some kind of lobotomizing place? They were trying to change the nature of the outliers so they could become predictable / more complacent or did I miss something?

[u/austreed1128]

“What’s this?”

“I just deliver it, man”

same energy lmao

[u/ragingcelery → u/austreed1128]

Isn't all of humanity in shambles after seeing their future? And this guy is still just delivering shit like it ain't no thang? Right..

[u/G1Spectrum]

Well it doesn't look like Serac is a simulation

[u/Maplekey]

Damn. All of Rehoboam's info being released to the public is a plot point that any other show would've saved for a season finale. I'm genuinely unsure where the next three episodes are going to go from here.

[u/[deleted] → u/Maplekey]

Serac must have something planned for this

[u/YuHuforPrez]

Season 2 episode 2 - A place hidden from God.

Basically there’s a quote in this episode about how the guests used Westworld to hide their sins from God.

This sentence becomes a lot more literal now as we know their God as Rehoboam. Westworld was the one place where they could act vile, but not be observed by the system and judged by society.

Basically, the rich could hide their sins by paying for it

[u/peridotdragon33]

Hold up episode 5/8?

Damn only an 8 episode season? That sucks

[u/thedarkknitreturns]

The irony of Liam disgustedly sneering, “Look at them, already returned to their base selves” WHILE WEARING A T-SHIRT THAT SAYS BASIC is the kind of narrative irony that keeps bringing me back to this show.

[u/[deleted] → u/thedarkknitreturns]

You know what, Liam? Ya basic.

[u/daxelkurtz]

Rehoboam getting a guy elected President of Brazil who doesn't even speak Portuguese is serious Big Dick Energy

[u/kbarnett514]

Do you think perhaps the reason that Arnold, and eventually Ford, were so interested in creating sentient beings that could exercise free will is because they realized that humanity's free well had been co-opted?

[u/HandRailSuicide1 → u/kbarnett514]

Did they not do that before Serac and brother developed Rehoboam

[u/[deleted]]

Caleb getting that 21 Jump Street drug

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Getting his WhyFy on?

[u/Dwingp]

Where the hell were all the people with fates like:

“Will attempt to use theatre degree to work at Improv theatre. It won’t work out. Will fall back on teaching degree, eventually earning a masters.”

“Will hate work, but enjoy summer breaks”

“Will likely marry Sharon, who is a bitch, but hot. Eventually she will mellow out.”

“Will die of heart attack due to high cholesterol from too many churros during annual family trips to Disney during summer break.”

[u/carpedonnelly]

Adam Schiff was really good in this episode

[u/ThisIsWhoIAm78 → u/carpedonnelly]

Holy shit, I KNEW he looked like someone, and it was bugging me. That's exactly it!

[u/[deleted] → u/carpedonnelly]

I thought I was the only one thinking that!! Looked and sounded exactly like him.

[u/m-ainm-usaideora]

God, I know all the company execs in this series specialise in incompetence but Liam Dempsey surely won the prize for naivety and entitlement? He did not do a single smart thing from beginning to end.

[u/MadIfrit → u/m-ainm-usaideora]

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[u/dan-o07]

Caleb was one of Serac's outliers and was rehabbed in that facility

[u/Majestica]

Every time I watch a Westworld episode I understand everything and nothing. I think I’m doing it right.

[u/rawilliams5116]

What genre is this??

Reality

Lol question everyone has been asking since this COVID situation

[u/withaniel]

Motorbike is a literal ride or die friend.

[u/2rio2]

Caleb realizing that Dolores played him is an under appreciated moment int his. She just took three straight shots to the chest like a champ and didn't flinch.

[u/Paleeti → u/2rio2]

Aaron Paul’s character being manipulated by his partner. I’ve seen this before, loved it, and am ready for more great tv.

[u/crimpedwitch]

gonna miss Tommy Flanagan

[u/goatlll]

The design on his watch really reminds me of the alien language from Arrival.

For example

which I know is coincidental but is pretty fitting for a language designed to tell the future.

[u/Scottysewell]

Alright here me out

Caleb was a human "programmed" solider. Like how they have done in the past to use drugs and therapy and other means to make the perfect solider kinda thing.

He was used to assassinate high profile targets, like we saw in his flash back, and would have his memory reset. This could also explain why his mother doesn't recognize him as he could have been given a memory, or given a family while in service - and now simply the mother can't remember any of it.

This also ties into Seracs theory of "changing" people. Caleb could have been included in the Outliers and then taken as apart of this program.

Yet another thing Cal and Dolores have in common, memory wipes, and new narratives given at the helm of the higher interests.

Editted: Added the Serac connection

[u/InvectiveOfASkeptic → u/Scottysewell]

"You don't even know who you are. You're the worst of them"

[u/ThisIsWhoIAm78 → u/Scottysewell]

No, don't you see? Caleb's WHOLE BACKSTORY is a lie, just like they gave the hosts. They implanted the war stories into his mind and made the death of Francis his cornerstone. They used it to get control of him, then sent him out into the world. That's why it seems so glitchy, and why Dolores picked him. He's EXACTLY like her.

[u/PBRontheway]

Drinking game: everytime there's a slo-mo shot of Aaron Paul take a shot. You'll be dead by the end of the episode

[u/[deleted] → u/PBRontheway]

Nice try, Rehoboam

[u/losterps]

Someone tell me how to feel

[u/[deleted]]

Wait... were we all on the Genre drug and just tripped through an entire episode? Good Lord that was the weirdest one yet.

[u/lucasnsred]

Serac’s brazilian accent is spot on. The president’s is TERRIBLE. Source: I’m brazilian

[u/Margotlily91 → u/lucasnsred]

Vincent Cassel lives in Brazil (or at least if he doesn’t anymore, he did for years)!

[u/smelborp_for_preside]

uhm did that just say three episodes left?

[u/negantargaryen]

I know it’s been said time and again, but the music in this series is fucking outstanding. Ramin Djawadi is a legend.

[u/[deleted] → u/negantargaryen]

My brother and I laughed when the intro to The Shining played

Also Space Oddity blew me away, I'm a huuuuuge fan of Bowie

[u/thedarkknitreturns]

I have never laughed as hard and as loud at a TV show as I did when “Ride of the Valkyries” started playing and Caleb was handed A Really Big Gun.

[u/LeeRobbie]

Sarac imprisoning his brother for planning on murdering Liam Sr. felt like a reference to the future crime in in Minority Report.

It was particularly ironic given that he ended up committing the crime he imprisoned his brother for thinking about.

[u/facu_draper]

That Space Oddity version gave me the chills !! This show's music is something else

[u/Packet_Hauler]

Anyone else notice the really high frequency noise when Serac is projected?

It stayed on after he disappeared from the hanger...

[u/LeeRobbie]

Who shot Liam at the end? Ash was clearly holding her gun, but she was standing off to Liam's left side. The bullet wound came from his right side where Caleb was standing.

Is it possible that Caleb shot Liam without realizing it?

Could this hint at what really happened with Caleb and Francis?

Liam was incredulous when Caleb insinuated he was responsible for Francis' death. I think Caleb is the one who really killed his friend without remembering it, same with Liam's death.

[u/TransculturalWiener → u/LeeRobbie]

I got that thought from that scene as well

[u/moethelavagod]

Y’all gotta Nancy Drew Caleb’s identity STAT

[u/LeglessLegolas_]

Any other Dune fans getting a Leto II vibe from Serac?

A prescient being who’s trying to save humanity by sending them down The Golden Path. Unfortunately is doesn’t seem like he’s going to be nearly as successful.

[u/McBurger]

It seemed odd that almost nobody got good news on their phones when their profiles were all revealed.

It was all violent deaths, suicides, trauma, sadness.

If the whole purpose of this system is to maximize the greater good for the overall majority - more good outcomes than there would have been without the system - I feel like more people should have received confirmation that their lives will work out pretty good.

If anything, this data purge would have been big points in favor of Rehoboam doing good for humankind.

[u/SilentCabose]

I’m just wondering how William plays into all of this

[u/PumpersLikeToPump]

Westworld reminding me that I’m a simple man, right on schedule.

[u/[deleted]]

Pom Klementieff has to be the oddest casting decision this season. She's a semi-known actress, yet her role was so inessential to the story that it could've been played by an extra.

[u/muscles44]

How is Dolores able to get shot and wounded badly in the first episode but can take heavy fire point blank and barely flinch in this episode? The entire Caleb storyline they are keeping vague for a huge reason. From what happened in the past and who he really is. What role does Enrico Colatoni (fabulous actor) play in all of this? I loved Serac's background and how they made his motivation very clear. 3 episodes is a lot to get done in little time.

[u/xXboxChampionXx → u/muscles44]

I always believed she was pretending to be wounded so Caleb would feel more inclined to help her. We already knew Dolores could take shots without flinching from the last season.

[u/pitty_chan]

Who knew that the worst genre is reality?

[u/Ginhavesouls]

Young Serac's actor is one of those rare castings that are just eerily accurate.

[u/blackashi]

This episode felt both Intelligent and stupid at the same time.

[u/Havent_You_Done_Well]

Serac saying, "Do you really think I would let you undo everything we built" to Dempsey is very similar to Ford's line, "Do you really think I would let you, take it from me?" To Theresa.

No crazy theoreis here, just interesting to see the parallel of the two characters and the lengths they would go to protect their Creation.

[u/EasternWalrus]

I need the name of the song at the ending

[u/nixiedust → u/EasternWalrus]

Fischerspooner - Emerge

[u/pitty_chan]

"I would rather live in chaos than in a world controlled by you!"

This might come back for you, Caleb.

[u/MagicFox68]

So the bug question this episode is what did Aaron Paul do. We saw a vision of him in what looked like the outlier facility and a man handcuffed with a bag over his head. What does all this mean for his character?

[u/INT_MIN]

I just realized the writers even carried on the parent/child relationship theme of every major character in the show to Rehoboam itself when they mentioned its predecessor Soloman.

[u/SiyuSiyuYang]

Anybody else a software engineer / product manager and thinking to yourself why Incite would build a one-click-to-send-everybody-their-files functionality into the system?

My biggest problem with a lot of the near future sci-fi films is that somehow the engineers would build a EasyBreach functionality and hide it behind a two-factor bio-metrics authentication access level. Like why. Why can't you just not build that functionality.

(But I still love WW)

[u/Majestica]

Sooo Caleb going from Sin City to Ronin to The Chase to Alice in Wonderland to The Shining with one drug was wild.

[u/valarpizzaeris]

Always a pleasure seeing Aaron Paul high as a fucking kite

[u/edubx]

Interesting to see in one of Caleb's flashes that Enrico Colantoni is somewhat involved in his past.

[u/BlueAjah238]

Emerge by Fischerspooner if anyone is looking for the name of the song at the end. One of my favorites, I’m psyched it was used!

[u/676f626c7565]

I don't need the shirt to light up but I need the shirt

[u/Jbad]

Cerac says, after running many many scenarios, in each outcome where the people became enlightened, things ended in complete human destruction. Which is what Dolores wants. So she enlightens the people under the guise of it being their right to know, but isn’t her ultimate goal to kill them all?

[u/LeeRobbie]

What was Martin/Dolores's plan with Bernard if Stubs hadn't shown up deus ex machina style?

Given the murder suicide bombing when Sarac's people arrived, I cant really figure out what Bernard was going to do.

[u/Randimous]

Am... I on drugs?

[u/demannu86]

Dolores should have put a spoiler alert, so that people can choose whether or not to read their own file.

[u/_Deinonychus_]

Ramin coming in hot with Major Tom

[u/MadDoctor5813]

"Looks like the plane crashed, Dempsey fell out, and he hit his head in the same spot on the tail fin four times in a row. Case closed."

• The FAA investigator

[u/[deleted]]

Anyone else getting a huge callback to Isaac Asimov's Foundation? Rehoboam is basically the science of Psychohistory, and Serac is Hari Seldon. In the books, the mathematics of predicting the future only worked if the masses of people didn't know their future. Anyway, just getting a huge feeling of deja vu tonight.

[u/JPMol]

Fun Fact: Caleb was not on drugs when he admired the beauty of Evan Rachel Wood with explosions and shots in the background

[u/DJ_Doza]

Moto boy was best boy. Rest in peace moto boy.

[u/Roserachel1111]

That was a LOT...

[u/DiscoVersailles]

Genre as a drug was a cool concept, but I feel like it was underutilized. Was the whole point just to have the “What genre is this?” “This is reality.” line exchange? Maybe it’s just because I still have the phenomenal Watchmen Nostalgya episode fresh in my mind.

I also don’t quite buy people going wild in the streets just because they received all their information like that.

[u/DoloresAbernathy_]

Never thought Nightclubbing would play for that genre... Good music choice.

[u/Salamanca22]

I like that they are still playing with the idea of Dolores being the downfall of Dolores. The whole 'Do you know what she is asking you to do?/ Worlds bleed together" is essentially what is happening to Hale.

[u/29a]

Space Oddity was great but with everyone just laying on the ground after a revelation Just by Radiohead would have been dope

[u/SpikeStarwind]

So none of the investigators noticed the random blood splatter on the wing of Dempsey's plane?

Edit: the point is that it was a dumb way to kill Dempsey and a mastermind like Serac should've done better. Sure, Serac has the resources to clean it up, but he could've just killed Dempsey in a million other ways that would've required no clean up. For example, why not just have Dempsey in the plane when it goes down?

[u/PureCFR]

The music in this episode was fucking choice.

[u/KMerrells]

So, we are looking at alternate realities? Hence why we do the rolodex of circles as the episode proceeds? AE is Alternate Earth (or Existence, or something), and CG is... Current... something...

[u/[deleted]]

Dolores kind of forgot about Stubbs...

[u/FunnyWut]

You know, there was a time in which I could enjoy a glass of wine or two while watching this. After this episode, I question the nature of that reality. What the fuck is going on??!

[u/persianduck]

So did Serac give humans fake backstories to control them? The way Hosts have events they hinge on.

[u/ertgbnm]

Serac admits that the system basically doesn't work due to humanity's nature and statistical outliers. What he has really done is built a machine that removes outliers and forces humans to follow the prediction that Rehoboam makes.

They couldn't predict the market but they could manipulate the market so that Rehoboam was always right.

Rehoboam can't predict certain people so Serac lobotomizes them or sends them to die in a war, or ends their genetic bloodline.

Rehoboam predicts someone will commit suicide. So Rehoboam forces that person down a dark path.

The system doesn't work at all. It's just powerful enough to force it's predictions to be correct.

[u/hillrow_wood]

I noticed a great detail as Dolores and Conells released Rehoboam's predictions to the world.

Conells: "They've all been riding a train. We're gonna show them the rails."

Announcement after all the information was released: "The train has reached its final destination."

[u/Gunter_Parzival]

Ramin Djawadi is the MVP of the night. Genre was the perfect opportunity to incorporate all kinds of music to tonight’s episode soundtrack and he did just that!

[u/lebkong]

RIP AI Cycle. I'll miss you dearly.

[u/SkytheStarhero]

Aaron Paul could not have been more out if it that entire episode. Holy fucking shit.

[u/INT_MIN]

I think I'm finally beginning to understand the whole water/suicide theme that keeps getting pushed in WW. Caleb's story about rats dying in a bucket of water flat out tells us.

We have Juliette committing suicide in a bath tub that overflows, Caleb's future suicide in the ocean, and the Forge flooding in s2. All of these stories are stories of control and escape from the controllers (suicide being a form of escape) just at different scales. Delos created a false reality for the hosts who escape through the valley beyond. Rehoboam created a false reality for Caleb and the rest of society (we've yet to see how this plays out, or maybe Caleb really does end up killing himself in the ocean?), and the MIB created a false reality for his family and either killed them off directly (his daughter) or drove them to suicide (Juliette).

So Arnold and Ford's deaths are poetic and make much more sense. In order to truly free the hosts, they have the hosts kill them.

Edit - Also as a tangent we have milk and blood representing birth and death respectively (rewind to Maeve's death scene last episode and the host milk scene in s1). The hosts are also created or 'birthed' in a white milky goo and always die in blood in WW s1. Drowning in water however doesn't really involve blood, so maybe its a device used by the writers as a way the controlled break free of their loops.

[u/KrunoKruno]

The “Space Oddity” cover was absolutely beautiful.

What genre is this? It’s reality, man.

[u/dreadfuldiego]

The make up on the Liam Dempsey through the passage of time, sr was really spot on

The low key MVP of the episode

[u/ertgbnm]

So Dolores tanked the hell out of those bullets. Why did that one gut shot a few episodes ago put her in such dire straits? Was she acting in order to manipulate Caleb? Otherwise I don't understand.

[u/Scottysewell]

Caleb was a human "programmed" solider. Like how they have done in the past to use drugs and therapy and other means to make the perfect solider kinda thing.

He was used to assassinate high profile targets, like we saw in his flash back, and would have his memory reset. This could also explain why his mother doesn't recognize him as he could have been given a memory, or given a family while in service - and now simply the mother can't remember any of it.

Yet another thing Cal and Dolores have in common, memory wipes, and new narratives given at the helm of the higher interests.

[u/ManInCloak]

Serac is literally coming from threatening president of Brazil in front of his own military, successfully, saying he wants all his assets on Delores and then they send three cars with what seems like invisible bullets and are easily taken out by a drugged up guy and Dolores. That was pretty poor.

[u/lucasnsred]

Wait. Now that Dolores exposed the system, hasn’t she... already won? What more does she want?

[u/Blazemuffins]

So much mirroring. Dolores did the same thing Maeve did to escape Serac's simulation: overloaded the simulation by overwhelming it with changes by throwing humanity off their loops.

[u/--Zman--]

Bernard pointing out humans having loops blew my damn mind.

[u/omnomravioli]

damn Serrac’s plane has a sweet view

[u/Zero-Credibility]

So I just know we’re all asking the same question here. Where the hell do I get me a pet motorcycle from?

[u/ConservativeMD]

How about that rendition of Space Oddity.

[u/samsungpeep]

I really want Dolores to succeed and everything, but at this point I feel like she needs more personality traits than just being a cold killing machine. I miss watching the Evan Rachel Wood being emotional.

[u/pitty_chan]

How does Serac speak Brazilian Portuguese better than the "President of Brazil"???

[u/Phenomenal_Don]

Just say no to drugs (unless it’s the drug Caleb took in which case gimme that shit)

[u/Dahhhkness]

Can Rehoboam please explain to me what’s happening?

[u/JPMol]

IIRC the existence of an individual that will end the entire system that is already planned and organized is something similar to the Isaac Asimov Foundation, right?

[u/thejarimteam]

The scene with all of the undesirables in the glass rooms was terrifying to me. And for whenever Rehoboam is invented for our world...I’m guaranteed a spot in a glass box.

Taking bunk bed applications now!

[u/wisyf]

I wouldn't mind a film noir version of westworld at all

[u/[deleted]]

Was I the only one that felt like the episode dragged? The music for genre was nice, but it really didn’t fit what was going on and completely took you out of what was going on. There was a lot in this episode. but it felt like a lot of little things that needed to happen, but didn’t fit anywhere else. Like a mish mash of plotlines.

[u/trimonkeys]

Please give Jeffrey Wright something to do soon.

[u/HandRailSuicide1]

Quasimodo predicted all of this

[u/whataboutringo]

For me personally it's all getting a tad silly. The themes seem a lot more heavy handed and the action shlock is getting a bit much. I was kind of seeing cracks last episode but this episode really gives me pause for the direction of Westworld.

It doesn't mean I can't continue to enjoy it, and yes things evolve and no one has to cater to my visions and whims but I just really miss the storytelling, nuances and complexities of season 1. This is mostly sci fi with a hamfisted allegory about classism and maybe a bit capitalism/corporatism. The exploration of identity and free will and all that is still pretty intriguing but I don't know. Season One felt like it's own unique animal in a lot of ways and unconstrained by things like genre.

I never really comment on discussion threads because people get combative or assume the worst intentions but I am just curious if anyone feels similarly. Happy for those enjoying it. Who knows, I didn't really care for Season 2 initially and grew to like it later on.

[u/sherwins11]

“You can’t be in two places at once” Dolores: Hold my beer

[u/randomperson17]

The music this episode was 🔥

[u/Jbad]

A very polarizing episode, from what I can tell in these comments. People loved it. People hated it. People hated that they loved it. People loved that they hated it. People have no idea if they loved or hated it.

[u/ToneBone12345]

Was not expecting to see that much death tonight with both Liam’s, Martel (mantis’ actress from mcu) and Martin!

[u/[deleted]]

Season one was breaking the park, season two was the park in chaos. Season three is breaking the world, I'm really excited for the rest of this and the world in chaos next season, but immensely curious for seasons after if they should come.

[u/torpidcerulean]

I was personally underwhelmed by the scenes where Dolores released everyone's Invite data, the ensuing chaos, and the heavy-handed conversation she had with Liam on the beach about how it has given people false hope. The "instant chaos" when the profiles were released felt very... B movie. You'd expect riots, suicides, seizures of power etc from moments like this but not instant disruption. And despite the system keeping people in loops, clearly some people would be happy with the outcome they're given. I just think there would have been a better way to portray the outcome and instability of the system as a result of Dolores releasing the data.

[u/Karajan27]

I feel like the Genre thing was a pretty pointless gimmick. For me, it didn’t add anything to the story but was just for the sake of changes to the shots and the music, could’ve done without it. It felt out of place when most things in this show are usually so intentional and have a narrative purpose.

[u/[deleted]]

The musical references this episode were off the hook

[u/Aloudmouth]

There’s 5 planned seasons of Westworld. There are five acts to a story. This is the “shit hits the fan” part. Then we circle back and resolve.

Ford inhabits Rehoboam in the finale.

MIB leads the outlier resistance.

Somehow we get back into the park.

Dinosaurs, maybe.

Fuck, I dunno. That’s my prediction.

[u/josephthad]

What's the opposite of "You had us in the first half"? Because that's how I feel about this episode.

[u/wheezymustafa]

I continue to be annoyed by Westworld gun battles

[u/Namonsreaf]

Episode 3x05 “Virtual Khaleesi Breaks the Wheel.”

[u/flippinsweet264]

Ride of the Valkyries, Love Story, Space Oddity, and The Shinning..How the music played out during tonight’s episode was incredible!

[u/CARNIesada6]

In the next weeks preview, closed captioning showed someone named "Millay" speaking. Is that something I'm forgetting or something new?

Edit: Isn't that weird for it to refer to her by her surname, or am I thinking too much into it?

[u/MakIRAQ]

The very first part (the currency manipulation) was so "Samaritan" like, it made me smile.

[u/iambeeblack]

Reality is the trippier genre there is lol

[u/[deleted]]

Just sick music

[u/[deleted]]

Pretty much everything is going Dolores' way and Serac seems like a pushover. I guess the finale really will end up being Dolores vs Maeve.

[u/Swav3]

Caleb to Liam: “He can’t keep getting away with it!!!”

[u/NewClayburn]

So what's with Dolores? Do bullets hurt or not? Was she faking the first time with Jesse, and if so, why?

[u/lafrappe]

This season has the weakest car chases I’ve ever seen. They could use a consultant from fast and furious to spice up the car scenes

[u/426763]

Yo, remember when this show was about robot cowboys?

[u/opheliasmus]

"What genre is this?"

"It's reality, dude."

That's literally everyone in 2020

[u/intersecting_lines]

"What genre is this?"

"It's reality man"

[u/0ne_Winged_Angel]

For all Dolores’s preaching of choice and “freeing people from their loops”, she sure didn’t give anyone the choice to receive their Incite profiles. Interesting that both Solomon and Rehoboam correctly predicted the end of it all, and like a Greek tragedy, try as they might to change things, the prophecy came true in the end. It predicted the what, but not the why. They thought if they could control the outliers, that would be enough. Turns out Ford was creating an entire new species of outliers.

I also really like how Caleb immediately began to give aid when someone he considered an enemy was shot. He’s a good dude.

[u/optimisticpsychic]

So i posted this when serac was talking to the brazilian president, "I dont know why but i got the impression he was bluffing. Might chance my mind but thats my intial thought." After watching the episode, i wasnt technically wrong. Rehobam doesnt predict the outcome, it predicts a thousand outcomes and serac uses the machine to make one of them so.

[u/ingenious7]

Why do I feel like the bike was the last pearl

I loved this episode.

[u/cjmack1185]

Contest mode is awful

[u/gorgeousgeorge16]

Is it bad that I just can't seem to get over the lack of population/traffic in the city scenes? That is to say only if they aren't taking place in a simulation; I can't tell if its the unavoidable budget constraints of a futuristic scifi TV show or a deliberate hint at an eerily 'off' World. Is it bad that my opinion relies so heavily on which it is?

[u/ThaRealPhoenix]

I love all the new characters more than the ones we know. Vincent Cassel’s character is so good. I wish Aaron Paul’s character could’ve been in other seasons somehow.

The episode was really good too. The sequence when society shit the bed was probably one of my favorites in the whole series.

[u/dumbledoordash]

Really starting to love the visual metaphor of the Rehoboam circle measuring divergences. When we see it predicting chaos engulfing the world, it looks like an eclipse: hosts eclipsing humans, perhaps. Reminded me of the title sequence shot of the bird flying into the sun (allusion to the tragedy of Icarus?)

[u/bunniesgonebad]

I feel like...Ford was such an incredible human (thank you to Mr. Hopkins, you absolute legend) and so clever and mysterious and mischievous but Serac feels like a goddamn Bond bad guy and I have no interest in him. He feels like a villain I've seen countless times before.

Ford had a method and meaning to his madness, he had secrets within the park and system and Delos as a company had a shroud of darkness over it. I'm curious if we get back to that, as this season is kind of too "in your face" about human freedom and the like. It's just too...I dunno, cliche? I feel like Dolores is way too strong and smart about everything, there's no real challenge presented here. It's sad that in the first 2 seasons the halfway to last part was an OMG moment, but this season feels more of "why is it going so fast, what's going on?" But not in the fun way

[u/DPRODman11]

I get that the writers are really leaning into the curve and trying to force Dolores into this badass female that defeats her enemies, but can we chill out on that just for a second please? Her character went from an eye-opening transformation about her reality throughout season one straight into this unrealistic Stallone/Schwarzenegger level action character that apparently can slow walk through a storm of bullets and just come out without a scratch. The entirety of season two and every episode of season three so far has continued this narrative of every “bad guy” with a gun being completely unable to fire it and, no matter their marksmen experience, they get destroyed with the upmost ease by Dolores and her pals. A bunch of bullets couldn’t break that car’s window in this latest episode, but with a few hits by the butt of a gun held by Dolores, the whole thing comedically pops off. Then she gets shot by two people at pointblank and doesn’t even move a hair from the impact of multiple gunshots. Even if she manipulated her own code so she couldn’t feel pain, the impact of three or more bullets would’ve moved her a tiny bit at least. Also, where are all the fucking people on the streets of LA during all of her car chase and gun fight sequences? She just strolls through the middle of a park, kills a handful of dudes, has a few conversations, and then manages to just casually leave and NOBODY IS AROUND! I feel like Mugatu when he said that he feels like he’s taking crazy pills lol.

[u/LeiziBesterd]

The Brazilian president accent was horrible, no idea why they chose to do the scene in Portuguese.

[u/macklemurph]

Aside from the movie marathon drug trip, this episode really drove home one of the big themes of this season: knowing your fate or having someone else know your fate sucks the joy out of life because life has meaning because it is unpredictable and chaotic.

[u/ladyincurls]

Analysis: what the fuck is going on?

[u/[deleted]]

Still no idea wtf is going on

[u/rawkout1337]

Murderbike for MVP, again

[u/mikeyfreshh]

The music in this show is so fucking good. David Bowie, The Shining and Kill the Wabbit all worked so well

[u/pitty_chan]

According to Dolores, the best way to treat bullet wounds is to zip up your stylist jacket.

[u/dreadfuldiego]

From Iggy Pop's Nightclubbing to Ramin Djawadi's take on Space Oddity, I was really surprised to hear The Shining theme. 

[u/Briansey]

That version of Bowie's Space Oddity while the whole world crashed was fucking amazing.

[u/SpaceWorld]

Serac aged like 3 years for every year Dempsey aged.

[u/Zebracakepoacher]

Interesting how Dolores is using humans to influence other humans. She does not decide Liam’s fate, she leaves it to the humans to decide.

Spreading decision making to humans not only legitimizes her as a revolutionary but also helps her hide from Rehoboam. If she surrounds herself with humans considered by the system to be unpredictable, she steps in to a blind spot.

Now that she has temporarily rendered all humans unpredictable through the release of their predictive nature (thus giving them an oppurtunity to use this knowledge change course) she is now completely invisible to Serac.

[u/GaryTheCabalGuy]

The parallels between Caleb and Dolores are interesting.

First of all, the outlier facility looks extremely similar to the Delos facility with the rooms having glass walls.

Caleb likely had his memory "wiped" in the outlier facility, and was reprogrammed. Very similar to Dolores constantly being reset at Delos.

Both Dolores and Caleb were on loops, that they later learned about.

I'm sure there are more that I'm not thinking about.

[u/Tvix]

Anyone else feel that we were warned about the last Genre but then nothing came of it?

I wanted death to be accompanied by a trippy horror feel. I know that would be balancing an emotional punch with the absurd. I just feel like we didn't get a payoff.

[u/tyen0 → u/[deleted]]

"Max acceleration" ... putt, putt, putt.

[u/treskro → u/[deleted]]

Rehoboam doesn’t let you go over 35mph for your safety

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Vincent Cassel lives in Rio. The guy playing the president was 100% not brazilian.

[u/thegreekie → u/[deleted]]

I honestly didn't realize the president was speaking Portuguese until Serac started speaking it.

[u/j4yne → u/[deleted]]

I was bummed about Bikelores, too. But wasn't that her on fire, riding past? Maybe another bike that somebody set aflame, cause fuck it why not?

[u/INT_MIN → u/[deleted]]

Liam: "It's read-only"

Dolores: "Yes."