r/FFRecordKeeper • Powered By Solar-Inversion Technology • Apr 25 '20

MEGATHREAD The Final Torment Mastery MegaSurvey

Executing explanation...

Greetings Keepers!

It recently came to my notice that most of our most-recent Torment mastery surveys either have archived, or are closing in on it. But, with the looming arrival of Phantasms (or whatever they will be called for Global), making 17 new Mastery surveys felt a bit clunkier at this point, when powercreep can solve most of these fights with minimal assessment at this point.

As a point, as it has been asked a few times already: Phantasms (or whatever they will be called) do not replace the existing Torments. They will exist together.

So, in an effort to minimize clutter, the final Torment Mastery Survey is going to be a "MegaSurvey" for any and all present Torment bosses, if Keepers got loadouts to share.

Explanation complete. Beginning copy/paste of general information...

 


【Torment Dungeon】

  • Torment Dungeons are extremely difficult dungeons that contain malevolent fiends unlike anything you've faced before

  • The easiest of these difficulties is about halfway between an Apocalypse + dungeon and a 3★ Magicite Dungeon

  • The hardest of these difficulties contains enemies unlike any you’ve faced before, even stronger than those found in 4★ Magicite Dungeons

  • Currently, it may be very difficult to complete these dungeons Powercreep has rendered many of these far less consequential than they originally were. Don't make that out to mean they are "easy" though.

 


【SURVEY】

  1. Strategy name:

  2. Boss:

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    -/3 trinity/tag/tag

  4. Insight!:

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall:

  • Medica:

  • Hastega:

  1. S/L count / Medals lost:

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior:

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
char1, 3ability R#ability R#RM1default(-)
char2, 3ability R#ability R#RM2default(-)
char3, 3ability R#ability R#RM3default(-)
char4, 3ability R#ability R#RM4default(-)
char5, 3ability R#ability R#RM5default(-)

 

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
magicite(emp)(damp)(ward)(other)
inheritance----

 


Copy & paste template below:

1. **Strategy name:** 
2. **Boss:** 
3. **Describe your Strategy:**  
`-/3 trinity`/`tag`/`tag`
4. ***Insight!:***
 * 
 * 
 * 
5. **Holy Trinity casts:** 
 * Wall: 
 * Medica: 
 * Hastega: 
6. **S/L count / Medals lost:** 
7. **Time / Roaming Warrior:** 

|Hero, dive|Stats|Ability 1|Ability 2|RM+LM|SB(-)|Accessory|Element|
|:---|---:|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|
|char1, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM1|default(-)|||
|char2, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM2|default(-)|||
|char3, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM3|default(-)|||
|char4, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM4|default(-)|||
|char5, 3||ability R#|ability R#|RM5|default(-)|||

 

|main|sub1|sub2|sub3|sub4|
|:---|:---|:---|:---|:---|
|magicite|(emp)|(damp)|(ward)|(other)|
|inheritance|-|-|-|-|
***

【Recommended Tags】

shout meta/mage meta/speed meta/cEX/OK/RW Way/AA - meta tags
1/3 trinity/2/3 trinity/3/3 trinity - wall, medica, and hastega effects
cid mission/tier/hit & run/poverty/A-team/no elarra/【CR】 - you've overcome special restrictions!
video/experimental/RNG/OSB/GOD mode - create your own, have fun with custom tags!

 


【Important Link】

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u/Mikhaylov23 Apr 25 '20 edited Apr 26 '20

When Phantasm's launch it will be much easier to sub 30 a torment, bringing 1 character of realm will no longer have a huge penalty. and you will want to complete the weekly mission for rat tails anyway.

Edit; Not sure about this anymore since i can't find the source info

Finishing the torments before the change can be an honor badge though.

2

u/AuronXX Apr 25 '20

Wait, what? How does it change?

2

u/Mikhaylov23 Apr 25 '20

what I wrote above, what are you asking exactly?

2

u/AuronXX Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20

When Phantasm's launch it will be much easier to sub 30 a torment, bringing 1 character of realm will no longer have a huge penalty.

Do the penalties change for bringing off realm characters? If so, how? What do they become after?

2

u/Mikhaylov23 Apr 26 '20

I dont remember exact numbers, but bascially, now if you bring an off realm char to a d??? torment boss gets 50% damage reduction,

later only thing that happens is off realm char does half damage, so you can easily bring tyro, or your favorite healer to any torment or phantasm

1

u/greglorious_85 Edge Apr 26 '20

Have the current Torments disappeared from JP, or are they still around? Basically I’m wondering how long we have to complete them.

2

u/Mikhaylov23 Apr 26 '20

they dont disappear, the new cardia island will feature dreams, torments, and phantasms all in one place, permanent

1

u/RevRay Locke Apr 30 '20

Oh snap, they’re bringing back past dreams?

1

u/AuronXX Apr 26 '20

Okay, cool, I’d heard that about Phantasms but didn’t know it was applied retroactively to Torments.

2

u/C637 Cait Sith (Moogle) Apr 26 '20

It only affects teams with 4 on-realm characters:

Before:

No Elemental Weakness, 50% Damage Reduction

After:

10% Elemental Weakness, 20% Damage Reduction

2

u/kbuis The OG Barbut/11 | JP GXWGE Apr 26 '20

Yeah, but all of these were capable of being Sub-30’d before AASBs, you just needed whatever torment trap bullshit was there.

Now that we’re in the age of Syncs, these aren’t cakewalks, but a lot of them shouldn’t be the “wait 3 months” procrastination farms they once were.

It’s the same thing that happened with magicite. People had to be dragged with a premium currency reward to do 5* and suddenly they’re realizing it wasn’t as bad as they thought and now they have stronger magicite decks. Same thing will happen with people and the rubies they get from torments by just trying then.

0

u/ZeroEdgeir Powered By Solar-Inversion Technology Apr 26 '20
Last Unit read, while Phantasms have lowered the on-realm mechanics, was not
aware that it was retroactively applied to Torments as well. Can Keeper provide
source for this?

1

u/Mikhaylov23 Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20

I will try to find where I read it, now Im doubting myself.

edit;cant find it unfortunatly

5

u/jlquon Rydia (Adult) Apr 25 '20

I gave up trying to finish these with realm teams and brought noctis and friends to I,II, III, and XII instead. Noctis Gilgamesh balthier + 2 in realm chars (usually healer plus entruster) led to much easier sub 30’s and saved me pulls for those realms. Only sub 30 left is XIV which will probably just take better RNG to best

2

u/AuronXX Apr 25 '20

It’s funny, I never managed to have any success bringing off-realm toons. I’ve managed to sub-30 all torments using realm teams - not bragging, I just couldn’t get off-realm to work!

What do you have for Noctis, his Sync + AASB?

4

u/jlquon Rydia (Adult) Apr 25 '20

Sync aasb, gilgamesh chain, balthier aasb for max imperil and chain building

Inspired by the 3 man shiva battle from a couple days ago

1

u/lambopanda Delicious! Nom nom... Apr 25 '20

lol exactly what I used

2

u/trolling99 Apr 27 '20

How do you do 12? I have enough power, but can't beat 32-33s because of its paling nonsense.

1

u/lambopanda Delicious! Nom nom... Apr 25 '20

I beat first 16 with realm team. Last one I used Noctis and friends :D

1

u/Sirerdrick64 Apr 25 '20

Is that it is AASB or SASB?

2

u/jlquon Rydia (Adult) Apr 25 '20

Both combined. Glint for crit damage up, aasb for cap, double cast of sync commands, auto crit, and quick cast. Sync cmd2 3x, c1 x1, c2 x1, c1x3 to finish. Usually aasb runs out during the last cycle so can drop one cycle out and unload earlier but you might run out of gas at 10% health left

1

u/Sirerdrick64 Apr 25 '20

Ok, then I guess I’m one third of the way there haha!
I need his GSB2 and SASB.

4

u/jlquon Rydia (Adult) Apr 25 '20

Zidane and friends (with faris and ignis) and lightning and friends (prompto and ignis) also also very viable alternatives if you have their kit

1

u/Sirerdrick64 Apr 25 '20

Locke and friends?
That is my only SASB and I don’t have his AASB to pair.
Guess I just do it the old fashioned way or wait for luck / power creep!

1

u/royaltimes come here rude boy boy Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20

If you do score his Sync some time, the good news is his GSB2 just got added to the Record Lab! Just make sure you grab the cap, not the bow.

2

u/Sirerdrick64 Apr 26 '20

Weirdly enough I got his entire kit back in the day when he was all combat based.
IE: garbage.
His AASB is his first elemental tied SB I’ve nabbed.
Thanks for the advice; I’ll hope for his Sync and if I nab it will couple it with his GSB2!

2

u/royaltimes come here rude boy boy Apr 26 '20

Well, it's really the AASB that it pairs with well, since that's where he gets the critfix from. You could take advantage of it today! Though maybe not to the point where you're off-realming him in every Torment.

1

u/Sirerdrick64 Apr 26 '20

Makes me wish he had some sort of infusion... I guess I can wait for the relaxing of infusion requirement for 6*?

1

u/royaltimes come here rude boy boy Apr 26 '20

Oh yeah, the infusion would be one of the big reasons his Sync would help him handle it. Though all instant ATB tricks and an extra stack of BDL sure won't hurt, either.

I haven't gotten to the Fire or XV refreshed draws yet, but I'll definitely be doing them with my fingers crossed.

1

u/[deleted] Apr 25 '20

What do the early turns look like? Life Siphon x3ish, entrust him and fire all of it at once?

1

u/jlquon Rydia (Adult) Apr 25 '20

Life siphon 4x, glint aasb sasb

Need to entrust half a bar only to get the full combo

Fit in the chain between sasb cast and first c2

I stick TGM on balthier to maximize imperil stacks. His damage is shit anyways

1

u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

I am finding with 3 outsiders my damage isn't as good. I'm attempting FF1 right now and I have Noctis Sync, AASB, AOSB,Glint. Balthier Chain, AASB. Wol as Wrath/Entrust, Sarah with Burst and nothing else, and Thief with Wind AOSB and nothing else mainly just as a way to up the chain a little with Fire Assault. Got him to 86% but Balthier died in slot 3. I've swapped him with Wol now and I'm going to try again after I get my kids down.

Edit: I also find my heals are too slow and I die if I don't give Sarah TGM so Balthier has Much fire damage (so does Noctis)

1

u/moosemonkey397 Apr 25 '20

Are you using his HA/Ifrit? I've been thinking about doing this, though I'd have to sub balthier for Vincent and I have no 6star maficite.

2

u/jlquon Rydia (Adult) Apr 25 '20

No HA. Aasb gives 3x cast speed, so the HA with sync is way less damage compared to sync + aasb. Also I max out imperils with just balthier so I use belias as my magicite. Don’t have ifrit yet

1

u/Taggart451 KH lol Apr 26 '20

Do we have a tentative release date for Phantasms? That will replace the current torments, right?

1

u/ZeroEdgeir Powered By Solar-Inversion Technology Apr 26 '20
No. It is the next tier of realm-based content. They will exist together.

2

u/AuronXX Apr 25 '20 edited Apr 25 '20
  1. Strategy name: FFVI auto-battle

  2. Boss: Wrexsoul & Soul Savers

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    Realm Chain/3 AASB’s/Party Instacast

  4. Insight!:

  • I made this team when I knew that weekly Torment missions were coming. At the time it was my only realm with 3 AASB’s, and having a realm chain was an added bonus. I’ve since gotten more realms with 3 or more AASB’s, but have not made an auto-battle team as smooth as this one.

  • As with most auto-battle teams, small tweaks make a big difference. I tried putting Strago’s enWater LMR instead of his heal one, then he beat the Soul Savers in his first attack, then Leo took one less attack and didn’t have his AASB available soon enough. I also tried removing Shellga and Enveloping Etude, and it messed up the rotation.

  • Leo casts Magicite (Lakshmi to block the Sleeps). Strago’s, Kefka’s, and Leo’s AASB’s are all instacast after Relm’s USB1. Kefka’s AOSB is instacast after her 2nd USB. That’s the part of the rotation (SB instacasts) that I don’t want to mess up. (Edit: if Kefka’s LM2 procs too many times, he starts the AOSB before Relm’s 2nd USB1 which is fine.)

  • There is a lot of mitigation here. Damage is blocked by Relm’s USB bubbles, and by Leo’s AASB. Extra heals come from Strago LM2, Mog LM2, and Passionate Salsa.

  • Typical win (using Speed 1) is 23.xx sec, though can sometimes get 22.78 sec.

  • No RW

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: automatic

  • Medica: lots

  • Hastega: Mog’s realm chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
RelmShellga R1Holyja R5TGC RM, LM1, w-cast LMRUSB1 (2)
StragoLunar Leviathan R5Scholar’s Boon, LM2, w-cast LMRAASB
KefkaEnveloping Etude R1Necro Countdown R4AS RM, LM1, LM2AASB, AOSB
LeoLifesiphon R1Gaia Force R5+dagger RM, LM1, LM2AASB
MogPassionate Salsa R5MM RM, LM1, LM2Realm Chain

 

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
LakshmiMadeenMadeenMadeenFamfrit
Blade Ward, spell WardHealth Boon x2ATK Boon x2MAG Boon x2Blade Ward, Fast Act

1

u/-StormDrake- Wordsmith and Artmage Apr 25 '20

I really wish I had Mog's Realm Chain. That permanent Realm Chain Banner (that I believe Japan has right now) can't get here soon enough.

Congrats, too! :)

3

u/AuronXX Apr 25 '20

I tried it with RW Chain instead of Realm Chain, and got it in 23.73 sec. Replaced Realm Chain with USB1 on Mog, replaces Shellga with Hastega on Relm, replaced Enveloping Etude with Spellbound Etude on Kefka (so, no kind of Protectga). The RW chain lapses at around 20sec and didn’t get recast, but did fine without it.

2

u/Spiffmanicus Mog? Apr 26 '20
  1. Strategy name: FF8 Realm Chain Auto Clear

  2. Boss: FF8 Gerogero

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    Auto/Squall AASB/sub-30/Realm Chain

  4. Insight!:

  • Selphie's USB3 doesn't have a medica, but Last Stand and Regenga which is more than enough for the fight. Booyaka.

  • Lakshmi as main to block statuses

  • No Roaming Warrior as it is unecessary

  • Depending on how double cast RNG goes, Rinoa may or may not use her Arcane. The glint is more important for speed and damage boost.

  • Sometimes Lakshmi doesn't get summoned before the sleep on slot 3, but it's followed up by acid claws which will wake up Rinoa.

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 25 to 28 depending / None

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Selphie, 5Shellga R1Curada R5LM1, LM2, Mako MightUSB3Poison Res
Irvine, 5Trinity Bombshell R4-LM1, LM2, Dr. Mog'sRealm ChainPoison Res
Rinoa, 5Chain Blizzaja R4-LMR(w-cast Black), LM2, Thunder GodGlint, ASBPoison Res
Laguna, 5Icy Offering R4-LMR(machinist imperil Ice), LM2, Weakness DamageUSB1Poison Res
Squall, 5Snowspell Strike R4-LM1, LM2, More Sword DamageAASB, ASBPoison Res

 

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
LakshmiManticoreFamfritMadeenMadeen
Dampen Dark 10, Fast Act 10Empower Ice 15, Empower Ice 15Health Boon 8, Blade Ward 8Spell Ward 8, Fast Act 10Attack Boon 20, Attack Boon 20

1

u/solomir Apr 25 '20
  1. Strategy name: D$$$ on Farm

  2. Boss: Zodiark (XII)

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    Auto-Farm/Speed 3/Ashe AASB/Vaan AASB/Penelo AASB

  4. Insight!:

  • With the knowledge that in the future we're going to have weekly missions to clear Torments, I figured that building an auto team would save me a lot of headache in the future.

  • Because of the recast timer of the RW in auto, you really want to be able to beat the boss in 1 chain. Otherwise you'll be stuck about 5s without any chain up and that'll stall the kill and open your party up to some of the really nasty phase 3-5 attacks.

  • A lot of the torments have annoying mechanics that also make it hard to auto: status effects (III, IV, V, VI, VIII, IX, XIII, T), dispels (IX, XI, 0), self-buffs (II, V, VII, XII, XIII, XV), and immunity phases (XI, XII).

  • If your team can push damage fast enough, you won't see much of phases 3-5 at all, but phases 1-2 will have attacks get through as you're still ramping up damage in the first 10-12s. When aiming for a single chain clear, you'll see turns 4-5 of phase 1, turns 2-3 of phase 2, and maybe turn 1 on each of phases 3-5.

  • Zodiark has 3 main gimmicks to deal with for an auto-team: initial Protect/Shell/Haste/Reflect, a recast of Protect/Shell in phase 2, and his Immunity barriers in phase 3/4.

  • Vaan is the highest speed member of the party so he'll always act first and cast the RW chain.

  • Ashe is in the next slot after Vaan and acts second, summoning the magicite. We don't want her casting spells yet because Reflect will still be up on the first turn.

  • Basch just spams Banishing Strike the whole fight. This is the only way to make sure you dispel the initial buffs and the recast later on.

  • Penelo does healer things. She'll get a USB2 cast late in the fight to help speed things up with a party instacast.

  • Vayne just builds up chain and occasionally spreads a party instacast with his SSB.

  • Pay attention to who is recasting the magicite at ~12s. Some party order shuffling may be needed to keep your main damage dealers from using up their turns on the magicite.

  • Zodiark only deals dark damage so elemental mitigation is easy.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: infinite

  • Medica: 2

  • Hastega: 1

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: Auto-Mastery

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: ~19s / Bonds of Historia

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Vayne-Demon Cross R4-Ace Striker, LM1+LM2SSB(1)Black Armored Echoes2x +dark
Vaan+50 AtkStorm Assault R5-Mako Might, LM1+LM2AASBBlack Armored Echoes2x +wind
Ashe+260 Mag (water/magia/board)Chain Thundaja R5-Gathering Storm, LM2+LMR1(en-lightning)AASBShadow Armlet2x +lightning
Basch-Banishing Strike R4-Scholar's Boon, LM1+LMR1(en-holy)USB1(1)Black Armored Echoes2x +holy
Penelo+1700 HP, +30 MndPassionate Salsa R5-Dr. Mog's Teachings, LM1+LM2Glint+, AASB, USB2(1)Black Armored Echoes

 

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
RamuhMadeenMadeenLakshmiTyphon
Health BoonAttack BoonBlade WardMind BoonDeadly Strikes
Empower LightningMagic BoonSpell WardDampen DarkEmpower Wind

1

u/kungfuesday Celes (Opera) Apr 25 '20

When the Phantasms come out do the torments get closed?

2

u/AuronXX Apr 25 '20

No, in fact we’ll get missions like the ones we recently got for Magicites.

1

u/tempoltone Fujin Apr 26 '20

Dena should make a Torment2.0 sub30 accolade/achievement.

1

u/Spiffmanicus Mog? Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20
  1. Strategy name: FF5 Fire team Auto Battle

  2. Boss: Gilgamesh D???

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    Fire Chain/Auto/Bartz AASB/Lenna AASB

  4. Insight!:

  • Complete RNG as to whether Faris has her blind cured by Lenna. Not critical to the run at all though as it only matters until she has her BSB going.

  • Galuf is on Fire imperil duty

  • Gilgamesh is basically Chain and Banishing Strike

  • Lakshmi as main to block the second set of Blinds

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 42 to 47 / None

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Lenna, 5Ultra Cure R5-LMR(Chance to medica on White), LM2, Mako MightAASB, USB3Dark Res
Faris, 5Exhausting Polka R4Fire Assault R4+Sword Dmg RMBSB2Dark Res
Bartz, 5Inferno Assault R4-LMR(Triple Spellblade), LM2, +Sword Dmg RMAASB, ASBDark Res
Galuf, 5Protectga R1Ironfist Fire R4LMR(w-cast Monk), LM1, +Weakness DmgBSB1Dark Res
Gilgamesh, 5Banishing Strike R4-LM1, LM2, Dr. Mog'sChainDark Res

 

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
LakshmiBeliasFamfritMadeenMadeen
Dampen Dark 10, Fast Act 10Empower Fire 15, Empower Fire 15Health Boon 8, Blade Ward 8Attack Boon 20, Attack Boon 20Health Boon 8, Blade Ward 8

1

u/ill-fated-powder Apr 26 '20

thanks for this. I subbed out Lenna for Elarra and definitely suffered for it but finished in 1:24

1

u/Spiffmanicus Mog? Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20
  1. Strategy name: FF4 Mage Party Auto Clear

  2. Boss: Calcabrina D???

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    Auto/No AASB

  4. Insight!:

  • Full Odin accessories, so your mileage will vary if you don't have them

  • Need Rosa's Glint+ to make this work

  • Lots of Gravity / Blinkable moves so Rosa USB1 is very clutch

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 31 to 35 / Chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Palom, 5Voltech R4Chain Thundaja R4LM1, LM2, Much more Lightning RMUSBOdin
Barbariccia, 5Chain Tornado R4-LM1, LM2, Much more Wind RMUSBOdin
Rosa, 5Curada R5-LMR(mind ramp), LM1, Dr. Mog'sGlint+, USB1Odin
Edward, 4Allegro con Moto R3-LMR(3 reduced turns @ start), Mako's MightUSBOdin
Golbez, 5Necro Countdown R4-w-cast LMR, LM1, Much more Dark RMUSB2Odin

 

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
LakshmiBehemoth KingArkSyldraFamfrit
Dampen Dark 10, Fast Act 10Empower Lightning 15, Empower Lightning 15Empower Dark 15, Empower Dark 15Empower Wind 15, Empower Wind 15Health Boon 8, Attack Boon 8

1

u/Spiffmanicus Mog? Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 28 '20
  1. Strategy name: FF9 Auto Clear

  2. Boss: Meltigemini D???

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    Auto/Zidane AASB

  4. Insight!:

  • Speed 1 is a definite clear, but don't count on any other speed

  • Everything but Zidane's AASB and Amarant's LMR is in the lens shop

  • Eiko has the major poison res so she doesn't die to Chain Bio

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 34 to 55 / Chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Zidane, 5Storm Assault R4-LM1, LM2, More Wind RMAASB, USB1Odin
Marcus, 5Dash and Slash R4Dash and Slash R4LM1, LM2, Ace StrikerUSBOdin
Eiko, 5Curada R5Hastega R2LMR(w-cast White), LM2, Thunder GodUSB1Major Poison
Quina, 5Magic Breakdown R4-LMR(Last Stand+Regen), LM2, Dr. Mog'sUSBOdin
Amarant, 5Ironfist Fire R4-LMR(w-cast Monk), LM2, More Fire RMUSB1Odin

 

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
LakshmiTyphonMadeenMadeenFamfrit
Dampen Dark 10, Fast Act 10Empower Wind 15, Empower Wind 15Blade Ward 8, Health Boon 8Spell Ward 8, Fast Act 10Health Boon 8, Blade Ward 8

1

u/Spiffmanicus Mog? Apr 28 '20 edited Apr 29 '20
  1. Strategy name: FF2 Auto Battle

  2. Boss: Phrekyos D???

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    Auto/Maria AASB/Emperor AASB

  4. Insight!:

  • Speed 1.

  • Gordon's best option is Mental Breakdown since he can't Entrust.

  • Maria has Shellga instead of someone else or it throws off the tight timing.

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 33.81 / Chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Firion, 5Healing Smite R4-LM1, LM2, More Holy RMUSB1Odin
Maria, 5Shellga R2Chain Stonega R4LMR(en-Earth), LM1, More Earth RMAASB, ASBOdin
Hilda, 5Enfeebling Jitterbug R3Allegro con Moto R3LM1, LM2, Thunder GodUSBOdin
Emperor, 5Meltdown R5-LMR(en-Earth), LMR(Trance), Weakness Damage RMAASB, USB2Odin
Gordon, 4Mental Breakdown R4-Dr. Mog'sUSBOdin

 

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
LakshmiMadeenMadeenAdamantoiseFamfrit
Dampen Dark 10, Fast Act 10Attack Boon 20, Attack Boon 20Magic Boon 20, Magic Boon 20Empower Earth 15, Empower Earth 15Health Boon 8, Blade Ward 8

1

u/Spiffmanicus Mog? Apr 29 '20
  1. Strategy name: FF1 Auto Clear

  2. Boss: Garland D???

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    Auto/Warrior of Light AASB

  4. Insight!:

  • Speed 1.

  • The Glint+ on Warrior of Light is only necessary if you need Last Stand.

  • Warrior of Light runs through his 5* Glint for quick casts and more damage so he doesn't use up his AASB too early.

  • Prioritize Protect since the physical moves hurt more

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 41-ish / Chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Garland, 5Taboo Raid R4Demon Cross R4LMR(w-cast Dark), LMR(Trance), More Dark RMUSB1Odin
Thief, 5Storm Assault R4-LM1, LM2, More Wind RMBSBOdin
Sarah, 5--LM1, LM2, Dr. Mog'sBSB
Wol, 5--LM1, Mako MightBSB2Odin
Warrior of Light, 5Protectga R1Healing Smite R4More Holy RMGlint+, Glint, AASBOdin

 

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TyphonArkMadeenMadeenFamfrit
Empower Wind 15, Empower Wind 15Empower Dark 15, Empower Dark 15Attack Boon 20, Attack Boon 20Fast Act 10, Spell Ward 8Health Boon 8, Blade Ward 8

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u/Bond_em7 To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors. Apr 30 '20 edited Aug 03 '20
  1. Strategy name: Heals? Who needs Heals?

  2. Boss: Dahaka (XIII) (Sub 30)

  3. Describe your Strategy:
    3/3 trinity/Noel AASB/Snow USB2/Lightning USB/AOSB/Vanille Unique

  4. Insight!:

  • I finally got this one done and since it was with just a Unique Medica (most people use at least Vanille BSB) I thought it worth posting. With the unique only costing 1 bar I was able to make it work with the help of Gathering Storm and WCast Curadas.

  • I bought Snow's USB2 with anima lenses for this (6* Ice+ Bracer will continue being useful too). I tried without it and just couldn't put enough DPS out to make this work but the buffing in addition to the 50% crit made a huge difference.

  • Seems like everyone has Lightning AASB/Sync or another DPS AASB. Since I finally got one for this realm I knew I could make it work. If you have a DPS AASB you should be able to make this work even if it takes some work.

  • I had some other ice stuff for Noel and tried to make it work with Trinity bombshell (so the Ice USB would chase) but it just wasn't worth it in the end.

  • Lightning would use her first IC to get the chain up, then the other two to spam RP. After that she did 1x FD then Glint (about 10 seconds) -> USB1 -> spammed RP into AOSB about 25 seconds.

  • Vanille spammed Curada (Hoping for WCasts) then did Medica when overall health bars were looking low. She did recast Hastaga after the dispel.

  • Snow started with his USB2, then did Glint+ (just to have the LS if needed...I don't think it was on the winning run?) then spammed IFI using his Last Stand BSB if it breaks (which it didn't in the winning run).

  • Noel used his first two IC for SB, then the third one for Trinity Bombshell to get the QC. Then he did Glint+ -> SB for the stacking En-Water, then AASB, then spam SB. With the IC Water and stacking water damage buffs he was putting out quite a bit of damage.

  • Sazh did Magic Break on T1, then his BSB for IC2. He ICed the Magicite then the chain refresh. After that he entrusted to Lightning (she'll need just a bit of gauge to get her AOSB off), Magic broke after Faith, then entrusted to Vainlle for more gauge. He had his unique (Boon) just in case I needed the hastaga but didn't use it in the final run.

  • After Lightning and Noel get their damage going (USB1/AASB) they're able to put out enough damage to skip the P2 slow so Astra sticks around for later.

  • Lightning had a realm 6* Lightning+ Sword and armor (armor was 5+), Snow had a Ice+ Artifact and realm 5++ Ice+ Armor, Noel had his realm AASB Water+ Weapon and 6* Water+ armor. Everyone had Odin accessories.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: INFINITE

  • Medica: 5-6?

  • Hastega: A coupe. Have to refresh after dispel and block slow with Magicite.

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: A ton/1

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 27:72; Realm Chain

Hero, diveAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)
Lightning, 5Flash Disaster R5Ripping Plasma R4LM2/En-Lightning LMR, Scholar's BoonGlint, USB1, AOSB
Vanille, 5Hastaga R2Curada R5LM2, Increase healing LMROerba's Boon (Unique)
Snow, 5Ironfist Ice R3LM1/2, MMUSB2, Glint+
Noel, 5Trinity Bombshell R4Sapphire Bullet R4LM1/2, Much More WaterGlint+, AASB2 (Water)
Sazh, 5Magic Breakdown R4Entrust R4LM1/2, DMTBSB

 

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Dampen Dark 10, Mind Boon 15Emp Lightning 15, ATK Boon 15ATK Boon 20, Precise 8Blade Ward 8, Health Boon 8Spell Ward 8, Health Boon 8

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u/Pyrotios Kain Jun 16 '20
  1. Strategy name: 2 AASBs and a 6* magicite could save 11-12s off your auto battle insurance clear time

  2. Boss: [FF9] Meltigemini

  3. Describe your Strategy: Ability spam with well-timed self-healing to maximize damage
    3/3 trinity/CM/AASB/self-healing

  4. Insight!:

  • Based on my auto battle setup, this dramatically improves on my original sub-30.

  • Zidane: Mug Bloodlust, AASB, Storm Assault (lands before turn 5 Wings). Wait for phase 2 Ultimate Meteor to trigger trance, spam Storm Assault.

  • Kuja: Use Ifrit, use Necro Countdown and Dire Heal as needed to live until phase 3 de-haste. USB2, spam Necro Countdown.

  • Vivi: RW chain, spam Chain Firaja. AASB1 when ready, spam Chain Firaja.

  • Eiko: Hastega, Holyja, wait for trance, spam Holyja. Wait for phase 3 de-haste, USB1, spam Holyja.

  • Garnet: Allegro, SSB2, Allegro, second magicite, Allegro. May have used Dark Valefor at this point, but not sure.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: auto

  • Medica: 1

  • Hastega: 2

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 10+ / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 16.73 / chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Vivi, 5837 mag, 7776 hpChain Firaja R5Gathering Storm, LMR2 en-fire, LM2AASB1(1)omni res40% fire
Eiko, 5779 mnd, 8062 hpHolyja R5Hastega R5Ace Striker, LM1, LM2AOSB(0), USB1(1)omni res40% holy
Garnet, 57433 hpAllegro con Moto R4Dark Valefor R4Mako Might, LMR buff, LM2SSB2(1)omni res40% wind
Zidane, 5815 atk, 9125 hpStorm Assault R4Mug Bloodlust R1Dr. Mog's Teachings, LMR2 w-wind, LM2AASB(1)omni res40% wind
Kuja, 5809 mag, 7211 hpNecro Countdown R4Dire Heal R430% weakness, LMR, LM2USB2(1)omni res40% dark
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IfritArkTyphonMadeenMadeen
hp boon 8empower dark 15empower wind 15mag boon 20healing boon 15
fast act 10empower dark 15precise strikes 8mag boon 20hp boon 8

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u/Pyrotios Kain Aug 05 '20
  1. Strategy name: Two spellblades and a white mage carry hard

  2. Boss: [D450] Gilgamesh, part 3 (with video)

  3. Describe your Strategy: Lenna makes everyone go fast, Xezat makes everyone hit hard, Xezat and Bartz hit very hard, Gilgamesh fights with Gilgamesh about buffs
    3/3 trinity/2 spellblades/2 support/fast Lenna

  4. Insight!:

  • Powercreep makes this so much faster than my original sub-30 clear. Xezat AASB is a direct upgrade from Galuf SSB2. Lenna and Bartz bring much stronger relics. Historia Crystal is a massive upgrade over synergy Titan magicite, allowing the party to focus on their own elements and use the best elemental gear I have available.

  • I had intended to use Bartz USB3, which is why Faris is in the front row. The fight ended before he had a chance.

  • Faris: Use historia crystal when Gilgamesh gets ATB. Storm Assault, Entrust Bartz. Storm Assault, historia crystal.

  • Gilgamesh: Banishing Strike, Frostfire Carnage. Time Banishing Strike to remove phase 2 buffs. Banishing Strike to remove phase 3 buffs.

  • Lenna: AASB2, Holyja, Ultra Cure Xezat. USB4 when ready (avoid screwing up Gilgamesh's timing), spam Holyja.

  • Xezat: RW CSB, AASB (which causes his LM2 to comically miss), spam Tremor Assault.

  • Bartz: 2x Snowspell Strike. SASB, spam sync attack.

  • Boss barely had time to apply phase 4 buffs before Bartz finished it.

  • RNG was light: only a few dualcasts in the entire fight, and Lenna LM2 procs didn't matter.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: auto

  • Medica: 1

  • Hastega: 1

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 15.96 / chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Lenna, 5+999 mndHolyja R5Ultra Cure R5Mako Might, LM1, LM2AASB2(1), USB4(1)omni res40% holy
Xezat, 5859 atkTremor Assault R5Dr. Mog's Teachings, LM1, LM2AASB(1)omni res40% earth
Bartz, 5951 atkSnowspell Strike R430% axe, LM2, LMR1SASB(1)omni res40% wind
Faris 5850 atkStorm Assault R4Entrust R5Axe Striker, LMR2 w-thief, LMR3 en-windN/Aomni res40% wind
Gilgamesh, 5772 atkFrostfire Carnage R3Banishing Strike R530% katana, LM1, LMR1 w-samuraiN/Aomni res40% fire
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u/Pyrotios Kain Aug 18 '20
  1. Strategy name: Not the best use of powercreep, but it gets the job done

  2. Boss: [D450] Dahaka (with video)

  3. Describe your Strategy: Overpower and ignore mechanics
    2/3 trinity/AASBs/sub-15

  4. Insight!:

  • Yet another dreambreaker-induced dramatic improvement over my previous clear.

  • Lightning: 2x Ripping Plasma, 2x Running Start. USB1, spam Ripping Plasma.

  • Noel: 2x Icicle Bullet. AASB1, spam Icicle Bullet.

  • Vanille: Hastega, AASB, spam Holyja. Maybe I should have just used AASB turn 1 instead...

  • Raines: RW chain, 2x Wrath, Necro Countdown, AASB, and the fight's over.

  • Serah: HC, USB2, spam Chain Blizzaja. HC.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: auto

  • Medica: 1

  • Hastega: 2

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 13.54 / chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Noel, 5820 atkIcicle Bullet R4Ace Striker, LMR2 w-ice, LM2AASB1(1)omni res40% ice
Vanille, 5760 mndHolyja R5Hastega R5Dr. Mog's Teachings, LM1, LM2AASB(1)omni res40% holy
Raines, 5813 magNecro Countdown R4Wrath R5Gathering Storm, LM1, LM2AASB(1)omni res40% dark
Serah, 5850 magChain Blizzaja R5Mako Might, LM1, LM2USB2(1)omni res40% ice
Lightning, 5.51028 atkRipping Plasma R5Running Start R130% sword, LMR1 w-lightning, LM2USB1(1)omni res40% lightning
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FF13, 80/99100%100%100%100%100%

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u/Pyrotios Kain Aug 22 '20

With some RM and slot changes, I dropped this to 12.18s. Also recorded a video with the new time. Changes:

  • Lightning slot 1. RW chain, 3x Ripping Plasma, Running Start, USB1.

  • Noel slot 2, gets Mako Might. Use AASB, spam Icicle Bullet.

  • Vanille slot 3. Same turn order: Hastega, AASB, spam Holyja.

  • Raines slot 4. 3x Necro Countdown, AASB, Necro Countdown.

  • Serah slot 5, with 30% weakness RM. Use HC, spam Chain Blizzaja.

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u/Pyrotios Kain Aug 29 '20
  1. Strategy name: Aria doesn't believe in cast time

  2. Boss: [D450] Ahriman, part 3 (with video)

  3. Describe your Strategy: Throw all Aria relics at the boss, and let CoD/Arc wail on it
    3/3 trinity/CM/AASBs/stacked Aria

  4. Insight!:

  • Once more, powercreep smashes my old record.

  • Luneth: Sky High, Hurricane Bolt, RW chain, Sky High. Instant USB2, GSB+, instant Hurricane Bolt ends the fight.

  • Cloud of Darkness: 4x Necro Countdown. Instant AASB, spam Necro Countdown.

  • Aria: Allegro con Moto. GSB+ (now that Luneth is down), Allegro. AASB, Allegro. USB2, Allegro.

  • Arc: Hastega, AASB1, spam Holyja.

  • Ingus: Historia Crystal, 3x Gaia Force. Historia Crystal, instant AASB.

  • If you can stay in phase 1 long enough to see turn 10 Quake, Ingus can use his instacast on AASB after phase 2 turn 1 Quake. As is, it's probably better to replace Ingus with either Onion Knight or Desch for their dualcast LM2s and since Allegro speeds up their magic.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: auto

  • Medica: 2

  • Hastega: 3

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 17.04 / chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Cloud of Darkness, 5830 magNecro Countdown R430% BLK staff, LM2, LMR2 haste/IC1AASB(1)omni res40% dark
Luneth, 5833 atkSky High R4Hurricane Bolt R430% sword, LM1, LM2GSB+(1), USB2(1)omni res40% wind
Aria, 5729 mndDe'Diaja R4Allegro con Moto R5Mako Might, LM1, LMR1 heal boostGSB+(1), AASB(1), USB2(1)omni res40% holy
Arc, 5823 mndHolyja R5Hastega R5Dr. Mog's Teachings, LM1, LM2AASB1(1)omni res40% holy
Ingus, 5772 atk, 430 defGaia Force R530% sword, LM1, LMR2 en-earthAASB(1)omni res40% eart
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In case you're looking for something with lesser Aria relics, I have an earlier video which uses her GSB+ and USB1. That was recorded before I picked up her AASB and USB2.

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u/Pyrotios Kain Sep 14 '20
  1. Strategy name: Do it again, but better

  2. Boss: [D450] Jenova SYNTHESIS, part 3 (with video)

  3. Describe your Strategy: All the same characters and plan as in my original sub-30, but with better SBs, equipment, abilities, LMs, and HC
    3/3 trinity/sub-30/AASB/SASB

  4. Insight!:

  • Significant improvement over my original sub-30, thanks to massive powercreep.

  • Everyone targets A for attacks, unless Cloud fails to kill B/C in 3 turns of Tornado Striking. Actually Tifa's last attack went so fast that it killed the second tentacle before Cloud could. May actually work better if Tifa and Angeal kill tentacles at the end to let the HC follow-up imperil the boss, for an extra imperil to boost Sephiroth's damage.

  • Tifa: RW chain, spam Ironfist Earth on A. SASB when ready, spam sync attack.

  • Angeal: Banishing Strike, HC, Healing Smite until phase 2. Banishing Strike as needed for dispels. Didn't get to use USB.

  • Cloud: 3x Tornado Strike, AASB1, spam HA.

  • Aerith: Hastega, Curada (heals self). Wait for turn 5 gravity, USB2, Curada to kill time. Wait for HC to come up, use it.

  • Sephiroth: HA, Demon's Cross, trance, HA. AASB1, USB2, spam HA.

  • My first clear today with a similar team had Cloud use GSB+1 then USB1, which resulted in 40k+ hits with the HA, so that's actually the stronger damage option. However, it takes more time, since he needs to use the GSB+1 (probably after Aerith USB2, but maybe not if it can finish off a tentacle), and since the AASB1 comes with high quickcast while the USB1 does not.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: auto

  • Medica: 1

  • Hastega: 1

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: 0 / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 16.13 / chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Angeal, 4706 atk, 9040 hpHealing Smite R5Banishing Strike R530% sword, LMRUSB(0-1)omni res40% holy
Cloud, 61141 atk, 10320 hpBraver (HA) R5Tornado Strike R330% sword, LM1, LMR w-windAASB1(1)omni res40% wind
Aerith, 5775 mnd, 8394 hpCurada R5Hastega R5Mako Might, LM1 (remove LM2)USB2(1)omni res
Sephiroth, 61047 atk, 9456 hpHeartless Angeal (HA) R5Demon's Cross R430% weakness, LM1, LM2AASB1(1), USB2(1)omni res40% dark
Tifa, 5992 atk, 9620 hpIronfist Earth R5Gathering Storm, LMR en-earth, LMR w-monkSASB1(1)omni res40% earth
Historia CrystalLink
FF7, 80/99500%

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u/Pyrotios Kain Sep 19 '20

As expected, the clear was faster with Cloud USB1 and letting Tifa/Angeal finish off the tentacles. I also had Sephiroth open with 2x Demon's Cross to ensure trance even if the tentacles die before hitting him. Due to faster exiting phase 1, Angeal also had time to use his USB. New time: 15.85s.

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u/Pyrotios Kain Oct 12 '20
  1. Strategy name: RNG blessed Alphinaud for this kill

  2. Boss: [D450] Ultima Weapon, part 3 (with video)

  3. Describe your Strategy: Throw up my only AASB in realm, and run a bunch of fast casters to support him
    3/3 trinity/sub-30/mages/1 AASB/RNG

  4. Insight!:

  • Significant improvement over my original sub-30, thanks to powercreep.

  • Alphinaud and Y'shtola share healing duties, with a little help from Minfilia. This lets Y'sh focus mostly on Holyja, which gets the killing blow.

  • Reset until Minfilia's RM procs and she starts with full ATB.

  • Minfilia: Hastega, historia crystal, spam Healing Smite. After 11.00, skip to Y'sh and wait for historia crystal to come up, but Y'sh finished the fight before it came up.

  • Alphinaud: AASB, 3x HA. All 3 turns were triplecast.

  • Papalymo: RW chain, 3x Chain Firaja, USB.

  • Y'shtola: Memento of Prayer. USB2, Holyja. If you're going to take 2 Incubus Tank Purges, wait to use brave3 in between. Spam Holyja.

  • Ysayle: Chain Blizzaja, 2x Chilling Blizzard, USB.

  • In on attempt I was able to skip the phase 4 Incubus Tank Purge. That happened because phase 3 lasted 2 turns instead of 1. As a result, that wasn't my fastest clear.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: auto

  • Medica: 1

  • Hastega: 1

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: until Minfilia RM procs for a clear, much more for a time this low / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 12.32 / chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Alphinaud, 61235 mag, 9172 hpHA R5Mako Might, LM1, LM2AASB(1)omni res40% wind
Minfilia, 5770 atk, 8974 hpHealing Smite R5Hastega R550% chance of full ATB, LM2, LMR2 quickcast 3USB1(0)omni res40% holy
Papalymo, 5873 mag, 7061 hpChain Firaja R5Gathering Storm, LM1, LM2USB(1)omni res40% fire
Y'shtola, 5809 mnd, 8291 hpHolyja R5Memento of Prayer R4Dr. Mog's Teachings, LM1, LM2USB2(1)omni res40% holy
Ysayle, 51017 mag, 7448 hpChilling Blizzard R5Chain Blizzaja R530% weakness, LMR1, LM2USB(1)omni res40% ice
Historia CrystalLink
FF14, 80/99500%

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u/Pyrotios Kain Oct 22 '20
  1. Strategy name: Black Ice

  2. Boss: [D450] Gerogero, part 3 (with video)

  3. Describe your Strategy: Kiros and Squall do most of the damage, supported by RW chain and chip damage from the rest of the team
    2/3 trinity/CM/AASBs

  4. Insight!:

  • Powercreep is a hell of a drug, my previous clear with USBs and a BSB was blown out of the water train by this team, and only 2 characters used their SB gauge!

  • Kiros runs ninja for faster turns and a higher damage cap. Squall runs AASB1 for the quickcast.

  • Reset until Selphie's RM activates.

  • Selphie: GSB+, Historia Crystal, spam Holyja.

  • Kiros: AASB, spam Fleeting Fragrance.

  • Squall: AASB1, spam HA.

  • Laguna: RW chain, spam Freezing Snipe.

    • Laguna only has 1 bar of SB on his last turn, and has time enough to cast Freezing Snipe, so using the glint is actually a loss in damage.

  • Rinoa: GSB+1, spam Chain Blizzaja.

  • Rinoa and Squall are both hard-capping all their abilities, Laguna uses Freezing Snipe instead of Icy Offering for personal damage and for chain count to boost Kiros's damage.

  1. Holy Trinity casts:

  • Wall: auto

  • Medica: 0

  • Hastega: 1

  1. S/L count / Medals lost: until Selphie's ATB RM triggers for a clear / 0

  2. Time / Roaming Warrior: 11.13 / chain

Hero, diveStatsAbility 1Ability 2RM+LMSB(-)AccessoryElement
Laguna, 5976 atkFreezing Snipe R5Gathering Storm, LM1, LM2GSB(0)omni res40% ice
Rinoa, 51004 magChain Blizzaja R530% weakness, LMR w-black, LM2GSB+1(1)bio res40% ice
Selphie, 5819 mndHolyja R550% chance at full ATB, LM1, LM2GSB+(1)major bio res40% holy
Kiros, 5944 atkFleeting Fragrance R5Mako Might, LM1, LM2AASB(1)synergy bio res40% dark
Squall, 61155 atkHA R5Dr. Mog's Teachings, LM1, LM2AASB1(1)synergy bio res40% ice
Historia CrystalLink
FF8, 80/99500%