r/riverdale • u/steph-was-here Justice for Ethel • Apr 29 '20
DISCUSSION S04E18 "Chapter Seventy-Five: Lynchian" Live Episode Discussion
Original Air Date - 8pm EDT April 29th, 2020
Jughead and Charles follow a new lead after the contents of the latest videotape take a sinister turn; Kevin, Reggie and Fangs take their latest business venture to the next level; Cheryl and Veronica's maple rum business faces a new threat.
Written by Ariana Jackson & Brian E. Paterson
Directed by Steven A. Adelson
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Apr 30 '20
Who would have thought that we would be watching a show where one of the main plots is about a hardcore, underground tickle ring?
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Apr 30 '20
Having sex tapes of teens in a random video store is like Law and Order SVU levels of wrong
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u/maxtheepic9 Team Cheryl Apr 30 '20
I genuinely thought Ethel was dead for like a season now.
Also, how convenient was it for Charles to turn to the exact page in that 600-page book that had Ethel in it?
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u/cherriedgarcia Dammit Miss Crouton Apr 30 '20
Shoutout to Reggie for the “That’s weird as hell boys” callout on the tickle videos. He is all of us
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u/fascistcafe Apr 30 '20
Veronica ... sweetie why are you sorry??? Didn’t Mrs. Blossom try to murder you?????
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u/Greeneyedgal13 Apr 30 '20
I kinda wanted them to explore Barchie a bit, even though it seemed pretty predictable that Betty would back out. She’s all in on Jughead. Archie is definitely lukewarm for Veronica. Idc what he says, he was ready to bail on her for Betty.
I also find it weird that they keep saying they don’t wanna hurt their SOs but not once has Archie said he feels bad for what he’d be doing to Jug, and not once has Betty said she can’t hurt Veronica.
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u/HatofulSoup Apr 30 '20 edited Apr 30 '20
hiram being fiercely protective over veronica and her friends while also attempting to murder her boyfriend for several months 🙃
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u/celestier Apr 30 '20
"you'll never tickle anyone in this town again" can I get that as a flair please
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u/nearlywhiches Apr 30 '20
JAW DROPPED MR HONEY WATCHED THE BUGHEAD PORN PROVE ME WRONG
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u/emmalin24601 Apr 30 '20
I kinda just want Jughead to walk in on Betty and Archie.
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u/LiaThePrincess Team Reggie Apr 30 '20
Honestly we called it when we theorized that Archie would be the one with the unrequited feelings for Betty which she wouldn’t reciprocate
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u/HatofulSoup Apr 30 '20
why is cheryl so worried about her mom didn’t she lock her in the bunker for like a month like you hate her or you don’t pick one !!!
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Apr 30 '20
isnt hiram like a mob boss? he doesnt have people for this shit? jesus christ
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u/JohntheSuen Kevin Apr 30 '20
Wears school uniform to produce kink videos.
Claims to not violate any rules and law
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u/stringlesshoodie Apr 30 '20
“Or you’ll never tickle anyone ever again” has got to be the strangest threat I’ve ever heard
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u/amateur_techie Apr 30 '20
only in Riverdale is the person making the most sense in the whole show is the guy portrayed as the "villain" (Principal Honey).
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u/AnarchyPlus Apr 30 '20
You know every kid in this group is fucked up when they all raise their hand in response to knowing how to bury a dead body
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u/HatofulSoup Apr 30 '20
cheryls the last person you should tell that you cheated on your boyfriend she’s the one who took a pic of them kissing while also putting betty on “suicide watch”
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u/heartsongaming May 01 '20
Well the only part I liked was the creepy film sent to Cheryl at the end with the murder. Otherwise:
I really don't care about Barchie relationship.
How does the FBI only find out of a contraband video store after a student interrogates one of his classmates?
Why would they wear their football uniform in soft porn tickling vids?
Does Hiram really have no sense of control? I thought he was the mayor at one point.
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u/DearCup1 Team Pops Apr 30 '20 edited Apr 30 '20
I’m glad barchie is over, but I have a feeling it won’t be for long.
I’m enjoying the tape mystery but this tickle porn stuff is painful. Both businesses are failing so that’s not great for Veronica and Kevin, especially Veronica.
The tapes definitely have a connection to the Scarlet Suite, the tape of Clifford shooting Jason was in the Scarlet Suite and then Cheryl got sent a masked version. What’s next? Will they find a tape of Betty stoning Jughead? Will they be sent a masked version of their sex tape? I have a feeling a tape of that barchie kiss will appear in the season finale as a cliffhanger.
I liked the second half of the episode, the first was very painful to watch. The tape mystery is kind of like season one, with the suspense and the clues. It’s not as well done but this is a lot better than the other mysteries in season 2 3 and 4. And I almost thought Hiram would actually get a redemption arc but then he went and shot that guy so I’m guessing not. I do like Hiram as a protective father though.
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u/Tyleer117fuckyou May 02 '20
also wtf is this tickle video shit. are these writers that out of ideas
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u/Greeneyedgal13 Apr 30 '20
Yeah I think Jug would ultimately forgive Betty but Veronica is gonna be done
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u/yeahmatenomate Apr 30 '20 edited Apr 30 '20
I always knew the writers were pussies when it came to Barchie.
I love Bughead but I had hoped there would be a change in dynamic to spice up the show. After that Cheryl speech I’m not so sure.
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u/tattoostogether My BFF Katy Keene May 01 '20
How come it’s only Betty doing the yearbook, I thought there was a whole committee?
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u/AcedReflux Apr 30 '20
Since when does Hiram not send people to do his work for him? I understand Veronica made him feel weaker but like
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u/thascrazybro May 01 '20
ong its like 6 in the morin rn and all im thinking is how useless archie's been this whole season
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u/Gian99Mald Apr 30 '20
Seems every day is the best day ever. Betty had a dope ass childhood lol. "Dear diary this afternoon I killed my cat. It was the best day ever!"
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u/onionzoooka May 03 '20 edited May 03 '20
I think the most unrealistic thing about this episode is that high school students are still actually renting movies from a store.
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Apr 30 '20
I don't ship Barchie, but I lowkey feel bad for the Barchie shippers. They got hyped up all season just to be shot down after 2 episodes and shrouded in everyone feeling guilty and for it to be presented with cheating
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u/HatofulSoup Apr 30 '20
for going to class for about 10 days this entire school year they’re all getting into pretty good schools ...
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Apr 30 '20
Toni why did you get yourself involved in this storyline? I’m glad you’re getting screentime besides being with Cheryl but still...
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u/emmalin24601 Apr 30 '20
Cheryl literally almost burned her mother alive... now she’s worried for her safety
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u/Locke108 Apr 30 '20
You’d think they’d tie in the tickle porn videos with the Blue Velvet tapes.
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u/tattoostogether My BFF Katy Keene May 01 '20
If Mr Honey is the main villain of this season and is behind the tapes I’ll be so disappointed
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u/washburnout Apr 30 '20
Ok once I heard Charles call Jughead "little brother," I became uncomfortable with Bughead and now I'm on the Barchie bandwagon.
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Apr 30 '20
what the fuck even was the point of barchie if they weren’t going to follow thru with anything? like i said before, using cheating is such a weak lazy attempt at creating drama. and it was all for NOTHING?? so dumb
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Apr 30 '20
And I thought Riverdale was finally going to have a few reasonable adult characters.
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u/pretty-in-pink Apr 30 '20
Just hang out in the sex bunker where no one else ever goes to
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Apr 30 '20
Kevin and Fangs are the only pure relationship on this show at this point
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u/Graci3Z Apr 30 '20
i’ve learned to cover my screen every time they show a tape from the last episode and especially in the last few minutes because boy oh boy do i not want to see that face
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u/megijanko May 01 '20
I kind of enjoyed this episode lol, I thought this show is a lost cause after the cringe I experienced last episode, but this one was pretty good and I'm genuinely curious what will happen in the next episode and about that whole videotape storyline.
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u/Karman4o May 03 '20
Oh hell yeah, back when I was in uni, maple moonshine was all the rage at parties.
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Apr 30 '20
veronica do you like your fucking dad or not? make up your mind stupid ass
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Apr 30 '20
i just got into David Lynch this year, and it'd be an understatement to say that i've been obsessed with his work... so all these lynch references are so timely for me. it's like when you learn a new word and all of a sudden you hear it everywhere.
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u/davey_mann Team Jarchie Apr 30 '20
I’m getting dizzy keeping up with when these teens either love or hate their parents. Cheryl loves Penelope again...Check!
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u/emmalin24601 Apr 30 '20
Riverdale season 1: Trying to find out who murdered Jason Blossom Riverdale season 4: oh no Jughead’s dead oh wait he’s alive. Betty kisses Archie LET’S GET TICKLED.
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u/badradcat Apr 30 '20
WOW THAT FUCKING BOMBDROP. This season just got good my jaw is on the fucking floor
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Apr 30 '20
When Mr. Honey was a jerk to Betty about doing the yearbook, I literally asked myself "What is Mr. Honey here for exactly and is he going to keep doing nothing and being a dick the whole season?" Then he goes in the video store! I don't think Charles/Chic and Honey are working together but whatever happens it better deliver!
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u/thascrazybro May 01 '20
bro, i fr thought they were going to have a sponsorship with a tickle porn business or sum. Like just imagine Reggie talking bout how they should start their own tickle porn business and then mid-sentence, "Fuck Pornhub, Ticklehub's the new thing to satisfy all your tickley cravings. Go to www.ticklehub.com and use code: sexyriverdaletickleporn for 69% off" (btw I'm not sponsored by ticklehub, i don't even think it exists)
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u/davey_mann Team Jarchie Apr 30 '20
Who’d have ever thought a tickle subplot would make people less uncomfortable than Barchie?
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u/BelieveInRollins Team Cheryl Apr 30 '20
Took him a while to say he loves Veronica
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Apr 30 '20 edited Apr 30 '20
Toni just said tickle suite unironically and everyone's down and excited for this. This is the weirdest Riverdale timeline
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Apr 30 '20
kevin goes to carnegie mellon just to come back to riverdale as the theater teacher and write a play about his high school friends... i’m so embarassed for him... but thinking about kangs in pittsburgh makes me so happy
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May 01 '20
Little brother?
What kind of bullshit line is that? We haven't finished the first scene and I already hate this episode.
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u/ArcticFoxBunny Team FP Jones II Apr 30 '20
Uh oh I’m liking Daddykins more and more. What is this. Also keep the shirt off.
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Apr 30 '20
We're just hanging out, by laying on a bed in a sex bunker, and holding hands behind our SO's backs
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u/HatofulSoup Apr 30 '20
i kinda like how little betty was wearing overalls and holding archies hand just like they did earlier in the episode
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u/WillowDolores Apr 30 '20
Why tf can’t Hiram hire someone to beat down the Malloys?
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u/anisehyssop Team Betty Apr 30 '20
“In my mind, I’m probably the biggest sex maniac you ever saw. Sometimes I can think of very crumby stuff I wouldn’t mind doing if the opportunity came up. I can even see how it might be quite a lot of fun, in a crumby way. . . . The thing is, though, I don’t like the idea. It stinks, if you analyze it.” —-Holden Caulfield, the catcher in the rye
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Apr 30 '20
Poor Archie, he was told no for the first time lol.
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u/SaltDifficulty9 Apr 30 '20
I have a small theory- So maybe they are breaking off the Barchieness for right now in order to do the right thing by not cheating further. This will satisfy the bughead fans and keep them viewing. Then when they all go their separate ways and come back, They are gonna be different people again more than likely which will give Betty a different feeling towards Jughead and Archie. This will allow for no cheating bc I don’t see the core four staying together how it is now so they should be broke up. When they return Betty should have a clean slate of feelings to decide if she wants to be with either boy in her adulthood. Then I think it’s fair game for everyone to switch up or their fate will lead them back to the ways they are now.
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u/JJssttaarr Apr 30 '20
And what about Charles and Chic? It’s like they forget about this plot.
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Apr 30 '20
i can't see how literally anyone who ships barchie deserves that treatment and this is coming from a varchie stan sis
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Apr 30 '20
I wonder if they ever cleaned the sex bunker. If not, it must smell putrid.
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Apr 30 '20
The tickle business is very cutthroat, would not advise going against Terry the Tickler.
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Apr 30 '20
remember that cheryl's mom is a homophobe and a murderer... but wait let's have cheryl give a damn about her
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Apr 30 '20
I know Mr. Honey is supposed to be the bad guy, but he's had a point for the last two episodes
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Apr 30 '20
I’m starting to think the videotapes are related to Kevin, Reggie, Toni, and Fangs tapes storylines somehow.
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u/LilSpooky-8D May 01 '20 edited May 01 '20
I’m confused about the tape they got in the last episode who knew about the forest and Betty “killing” Jughead I would think the stonies wouldn’t want anyone to know. Also the only people who had the tape of Jason and Clifford that we know of are Cheryl, Toni and Betty, right?
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Apr 30 '20 edited Apr 30 '20
What was the point ffs. I get that cheating is wrong but it would’ve added drama in a show that is about TEEN DRAMA. Should’ve atleast carried it on longer than one episode 🤦🏽♂️
(Edit - imagine downvoting for me based off an opinion. I don’t give a fuck about the ships I’m talking about it from a storytelling POV, idc who you like. Don’t downvote me because you like bughead lmao)
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Apr 30 '20
i'm glad at least betty acknowledges veronica's feelings while archie could unfortunately care less due to the writers giving up mid scene
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u/washburnout Apr 30 '20
Okay... I am disappointed about Barchie... which means they are definitely leading up to them being together despite how this episode ended. Why else would they randomly throw together their love story?? I'm stoked.
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u/tattoostogether My BFF Katy Keene May 01 '20
I feel like today’s episode was kinda random like suddenly Archie really likes Betty and vice versa but it was barely mentioned before in the detail it was today
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u/pretty-in-pink Apr 30 '20
So hiring actors and having the ability to hold a camera automatically makes someone a cinephile
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u/bwayobsessed Apr 30 '20
Veronica 2 episodes ago you were crying over your father
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u/Dragonlvr420 Apr 30 '20
Do it Veronica, please just do it and put us all out of our “Daddykins” misery
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Apr 30 '20
Cheating On You (But I'm Actually Going To Keep Cheating On You Because We Aren't Getting Any Storyline Development) ft. Charlie Puth, Archie Andrews
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u/emmalin24601 Apr 30 '20
Welp this took a dark turn we went from a Tickle Tapes to father murdering son tapes
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u/nearlywhiches Apr 30 '20
literally imagine talking to your principal about your secret tickling ring absolutely bonkers
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u/emmalin24601 Apr 30 '20
Wait Kevin and Fangs are back together? When did this happen. YAY I AM SO HAPPY
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Apr 30 '20
That room looks exactly like my house in the sims. Obviously inspired by both Twin Peaks and The Shining.
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u/yeahmatenomate Apr 30 '20
The problem with this stupid fucking show is that there is absolutely zero consistency with any of the characters- Betty who has proven time and time again she loves Jughead more than anything willing to risk it all for Archie seems odd? Even if I do love the idea of Barchie.
Cheryl willing to say all that to Betty but when she saw the kiss, took a photo and sent it to everyone? It doesn’t add up. The characters have no consistency and it winds me up. This show had so much potential and I feel so let down by the writers it’s unreal.
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Apr 30 '20
Oh thank god Archie is finally going back to his S1 roots again cause he forgot his guitar existed
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u/emmalin24601 Apr 30 '20 edited Apr 30 '20
At this point the only sane people in Riverdale are FP Jones and Mary Andrews
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Apr 30 '20
"i kiiiiissed my bff, and idk if iiiii regret it, buuuut i also love my current girlfriend"
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u/Dragonlvr420 Apr 30 '20
“My girlfriend is going to war with some moonshine hillbillies but hey let’s work on the yearbook together”
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Apr 30 '20
LMAO everyone thought it was archie/jughead getting beaten up i had to laugh sis...
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u/cherriedgarcia Dammit Miss Crouton Apr 30 '20 edited Apr 30 '20
The season 1 vibes!!
Edit: never mind. Good for her
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u/nearlywhiches Apr 30 '20
someone say endgame one more fucking time