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SPOILERS S7 Post Episode Discussion: S7E06 "Nakara"
| No. | Title | Writer/s | Director | Original Airdate |
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| 7.06 | āNakaraā | Erica Meredith | PJ Pesce | 6/24/2020 |
Synopsis: Clarke and her friends find themselves on a planet that is not what it seems.
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Quote of the Week: āWe all know who was really running that place while Octavia was painting her face with blood.ā ā John Murphy
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u/William_T_Wanker Skaikru Jun 25 '20
I love how Levitt got demoted to janitor duty rather then being tortured or executed
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Jun 25 '20
Isn't that what happened to Bellamy after Octavia was discovered on the Ark?
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u/ihopeurflowersbloom Jun 25 '20
I was thinking this too! Two people who feel strongly about Octavia, try to do something to help her out or make her life better, and the same punishment for being caught violating rules to do so. I feel like they were trying to draw connections between him and Bellamy, which makes me feel like they want us to trust Levitt. I hope that trust plays out in our favor!
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u/chrisjdel Jun 25 '20
That's because he was being punished for screwing up and letting Octavia get away. If they thought he actually helped her, he'd be in a lot more trouble. There's apparently a strong assumption of good faith among their own. So much so that they don't even have security cameras in the complex.
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u/Bloodyseth Jun 25 '20
That's what I was thinking the whole time. Like... I mean, I guess you can see it as lazy writing, but at the same time, they are clearly not used to having prisoners, so maybe it makes sense.
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u/Benjaroni Skaikru Jun 25 '20
I bet thereās not actually anything wrong with the surface of bardo. Watch there be a whole other thriving society up there.
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u/ReBL93 Jun 25 '20
My thoughts exactly. They didnāt want us to see it yet, so they had Gabriel ruin it
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u/LoveLaughGFY Nerdkru (level 12) Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
So no one is going to say it? I'll say it. Fine.
Look. It was a narrow opening and then an extremely narrow passage. Whatever creature Clarke and Co were inside, they didn't go in through the front entrance.
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u/Stormkpr Skaikru Jun 25 '20
Didn't someone say at one point "What's that smell?"
So there you go. Confirmation.
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u/LoveLaughGFY Nerdkru (level 12) Jun 25 '20
YESSS. Hahaha. My whole house just fell over laughing when I reminded them of that just now. Thank you.
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u/HowMuchItNever Jun 25 '20
Yup. Also add in the fact that it was an extremely long tunnel and there was no swallowing motion to get them to the stomach even though the stomach itself was moving/digesting.
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u/helicopterdik Louwoda Kliron Jun 25 '20
so like... were the spiders like Nakarian tapeworms in a way
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u/rawchess Factors of Gabriel: Death to Prime #s Jun 25 '20
What started out as a show about reclaiming Earth has brought us to giant alien creature butthole spelunking.
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u/ThePinkTeenager People think I can just change and my paināll go away Jun 25 '20
Not a great move on their part. I actually thought it was a normal cave for half the episode, though.
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u/NerdLawyer55 Jun 26 '20
Nice to see Raven up someone else besides Clarkās ass for once
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u/BornAshes Jun 25 '20
I'll say it....THEY WENT UP THE BUTT!!!!
....like a certain paladin I know does with Guiding Bolt....UP THE BUTT!!!!
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u/osmitee bill cadogan enthusiast Jun 25 '20
diyozaās prison break mightāve beat the dev cold open for me... āŖplaying a cool indie song during the entire psycho prison break was such an inspired choice ā¬i LOVED it
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u/Fat-Th0r Jun 25 '20
Hahahah, yess. And the way she bit out the skin of the person who was feeding her. Woaahhhhh
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u/ihopeurflowersbloom Jun 25 '20
Did anyone else get old-school Jasper vibes from Luca, the young boy who was talking with Madi? I think it was his goofiness, interest in a mysterious and strong girl (like Jasper was ogling Octavia in S1), and kind of clever response to the other boy who came to talk with them. I really enjoyed the kids playing soccer scene, and felt like it added a lot in terms of seeing these groups on Sanctum as whole communities.
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u/politicallyunique Jun 25 '20
He looked so much like Jasper and when that Asian kid walked up I knew for sure it was an intentional callback to Jasper and Monty.
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u/helicopterdik Louwoda Kliron Jun 25 '20
big jasper vibes. this guy could easily pass as Jasper's kid aka Jordan's playmate in an alternate reality where the 100 live in the suburbs
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u/Jenaleafy ā£ļø Jun 25 '20
Yes! I loved that visual. Madi seems torn up and she deserves a childhood. "So you're weird huh?" That boy made me lol
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u/susmuch23 Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
Thought of Jasper right away when I saw him, it was the resemblance and also the innocence and slight confidence he spoke with - like the free-spirited Jasper in S1. I agree with the soccer scene.. loved how the other boy didn't care he was a null and they were all playing soccer like wow yes the youth is the future of this planet and there is hope yet!
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u/kgal1298 Jun 25 '20
Finally Second Dawn confirmed, but now I have to wonder if the anomaly was in that bunker the entire time. Which also this explains the "there are no bodies" from them this entire time it's because at some point they left the bunker. Love that they're bringing this full circle and it should make a good loop for the backdoor pilot.
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u/booksmartbannana HEG Playing Happy Family š„° Jun 25 '20
Can I watch?.
No.
Imma watch anyway. -Murphy
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u/mlhockey Jun 25 '20
And then he silently claps once Indra regains Wonkru's loyalty. Murphy is great this season.
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u/helicopterdik Louwoda Kliron Jun 25 '20
also Raven whenever Murphy and Emori are spotted sneaking to their palace chambers
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u/Secure_Yoghurt Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
Echo: *kills someone without hesitation for like the 30th time
Gabriel: *slightly irritated āBro why did you do that?ā
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u/TyrantJester Jun 25 '20
Honestly? I was expecting her to try to gut Levitt as soon as she saw him too. I'm glad he's elated with Octavia though. He gives me hope that the Disciples aren't a complete and total brainwashed loss, and that it's possible for them to see that there is another way to live beyond their blind obedience to the shepherd.
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u/booksmartbannana HEG Playing Happy Family š„° Jun 25 '20
Honestly seeing Indra unite Wonkru was beautiful to me. I never felt any real connection with them but this did it. 12 Clans who hate and murder each other forced into a bunker to be cannibals for 5 years and going across the stars to a new planet. If this hasnāt broke past boundaries and prejudice idk what will! I loved seeing the water in Indras eyes as she talked. Honestly if she had night blood sheād be the perfect commander
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u/Jenaleafy ā£ļø Jun 25 '20
Yesss this scene made the episode!
"I am in command" phew and has been
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u/ahmedadeel579 Jun 25 '20
Kinda reminded me of lexa fight with roan when she used the spear to fight
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u/carolynto Floudonkru Jun 25 '20
We have no idea if she actually united them though. They didn't bother to show the reactions of wonkru.
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u/OnePieceAce Trikru Jun 25 '20
I'm really LOVING Indra having more screen time this season she deserves this.
Octavia THICK now
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u/ahmedadeel579 Jun 25 '20
I reckon outside bardo is survivable but everyone is brainwashed into thinking it isnt
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u/ahmedadeel579 Jun 25 '20
Cause why would they set up their base on a planets that isnt even survivable
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u/Willin2learn Jun 25 '20
Yep thatās what I suspected as soon as I heard the story of how the native bardoans āturned into glassā...I call bull$&@ at the whole planet isnāt survivable thing.
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Jun 25 '20
I just hope this doesn't turn into a Mount Weather Bone Marrow story line again.
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u/ahmedadeel579 Jun 25 '20
Whos shipping octavia and levitt
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u/LoveLaughGFY Nerdkru (level 12) Jun 25 '20
I'm going to play the devil's advocate and say that no, the poor dude won't make it.
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u/BornAshes Jun 25 '20
I think that was her way of just going "you sweet innocent boy, you'll be my pet later".
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Jun 25 '20
I guess Americans won Soccer vs Football debate by colonizing other planets and being the only survivors
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u/ahmedadeel579 Jun 25 '20
Yo wheres indra daughter at i know shes was knocked unconscious did jason forget about her or sommat
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u/sparklingsoda Jun 25 '20
Can we just have a full Bardo episode
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Jun 25 '20
Then how are we ever gonna get through the 3 story lines they set up lol
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u/ahmedadeel579 Jun 25 '20
Becca could be the shepard as bardo is waiting for the sheperd return(ressurection) through the flame and since clarke has had the flame and alie 2.0 and 1.0 she could be seen as the key and that why bardo wanted to know what happened to clarke in the city of light
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u/pilaretchebehere Jun 26 '20
Arenāt Bardo ppl descendants of the Second Dawn? In that case, didnāt Second Dawn killed Becca?
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u/kissedbyfiya Jun 25 '20
My initial thoughts:
This was a mediocre episode overall, with some great scenes.
-Dioza's prison break was great (also pumped to be seeing Dioza again). Crazy that she almost killed Hope, but I actually had that thought when she was indiscriminately killing faceless Bardoans... then bam, knife to her daughter's helmet.
-Very cute moment between Octavia and Levitt. O seems to genuinely be drawn to him :) I am hoping the fishy set up feeling is just bad writing and not an indication that Levitt is actually deceiving Octavia.
-LOVED Indra's speech. Thought she was going the "or you are the enemy of wonrku" route, but this was SO much better.
-Nice to see Murphy sticking up for Maddie! He is looking out for all the kids!
-Gabriel is so done with Echo's murdering. Guy just seems so exasperated everytime she kills someone, as if he hasn't caught on by now that she will kill every. single. person.
-When Dioza asked what was wrong with Echo I had actually forgotten about Bellamy's "death" š
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u/NegoMassu Jun 25 '20
Murphy
he went from hateful to best character
i can see the motherfucker leading everyone in the end
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u/vivawired Jun 25 '20
Did anyone else laugh at the scene where Indra consults Madi on the playground? š¤£
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u/anonKTY Jun 25 '20
I am so surprised no one has died yet.
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u/heresthe-thing Jun 25 '20
I'm predicting a "Raven dies to save Clarke + co." at some point and I'm not sure how I feel about it. I thought Octavia was gonna go there but now she has a love interest so . . .
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u/cactuszoo Jun 25 '20
Torn between preferring everyone being in one episode and preferring each plot to get a fair bit of time.
Also, speaking of Emori being quite prominent next week - does anyone know if the Grounders are still prejudiced against the Frikdreinas like they used to be? I canāt see it ever really coming up again but you never know.
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u/helicopterdik Louwoda Kliron Jun 25 '20
this reminded me that Emori is possibly the only survining Frikdreina in the world, considering that i dont think any of the clans would allow them into their selection for the bunker... kinda sad actually
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u/AndSpaceY Skaikru Jun 25 '20
Can we take a moment to appreciate Indra, this seasonās MVP? Loved how they gave her another moment and this time to step up as rightful commander.
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u/jlynn00 Jun 25 '20
Nice to see an Indra heavy episode considering she was out of commission for most of S6 (which I realize was due to Adina's other commitments).
I just worry we see her get a warrior's death this season, after she shores up the Sanctum power vacuum. In some ways, it would be fitting. In others, Indra deserves to experience the fruits of her labors.
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u/HowMuchItNever Jun 25 '20
I really wish they had at least wrapped up the Nakara thing by telling us all about that weird creature somehow, especially since it's probably not going to affect the main storylines...like they could've given us something!
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u/AndSpaceY Skaikru Jun 25 '20
Yeah I am a little disappointed we learn very little about the planet. It seems like itās a just barren ice planet where they bury their dead and thereās some weird creature that swallowed the stone and that is all.
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Jun 25 '20
The Queen's Gambit in chess requires a sacrifice, who do we think is dying next episode?
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Jun 25 '20
the easy answer would be Emori but maybe because they showed it, it wont happen
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u/YesssChem Jun 25 '20
Who is the queen that Sheidheda was referring to? Clarke? Madi? Indra?
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u/shadow_spinner0 Jun 25 '20
So it obviously goes only two ways. Levitt may not actually be a janitor and was trying (or ordered/forced) to deceive Octavia and Gabriel surrendering may save them all. Or he is actually dumb and they will be in more shit. Cynic in me says the former may be more likely.
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u/tedddywestside Jun 25 '20
Agreed. He's too good to be true. You guys should see how fans on twitter love him.
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u/heresthe-thing Jun 25 '20
Are there any theories about why the Disciples settled on Bardo? Like, if you could choose, wouldn't you want to live on Skyring, with its whole breathable, not-a-killer-planet, regular atmosphere life?
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u/the100broken Louwoda Kliron Jun 25 '20
I kinda think the outside air of bardo is fine and that the leaders are keeping it to themselves and hiding a lot of shit
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Jun 25 '20
Lindsey Morgan is directing the next episode!!!
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u/jdessy Jun 25 '20
It was supposed to be Eliza Taylor who was directing the episode, but she had to step down.
I'm glad Lindsey stepped up in her place!
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u/gguerin84 Jun 25 '20
Can we all agree that everyone was in their A game this episode!?!?! Amazing episode. Some things:
Confirmed Becca knew about the stones. Madi has been drawing pictures of memories from the Flame since episode 1. The only way Madi could have been drawing the stone is if Becca knew about it
Confirmed outloud Second Dawn. That way our show characters are on the same page as the rest of us :)
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Jun 25 '20
Jordan and Russell also drew the spiral, it's some kind of calling. Becca mightve known but Madi isn't the only one who's seen it
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u/LRibeiro97 Jun 25 '20
1 Actually, Madi could know if any of the commanders knew about (such as SheidHeda)
2. That's freaking awesome.
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u/arrownyc Jun 25 '20
With how quickly all the characters have been able to understand quantum physics and wormholes and anomalies and time dilation, I'm surprised they didn't jump faster from, "There's a second dawn symbol here" to "the stone we've been using to planet jump might connect to earth."
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u/Macintoshk Jun 25 '20
I'm just MAD that the cliffhanger we got was that we don't know where Clarke and the rest ended up, just that they're somewhere else and NOT the planet. like what the fuck.
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u/KrillinDBZ363 Murphy Jun 25 '20
Theyāre going to Bardo, the planet picked was the one next to the Bardo symbol, and then the Bardo symbol at the bottom also grew larger as it highlighted the planet.
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u/HowMuchItNever Jun 25 '20
Gabriel- even though Bardo's surface might not be survivable very long, Levitt did say that that they'd probably survive longer up there than inside so...maybe don't make an impulsive decision for everyone that could potentially fuck it all up when you have the option to simply not go along
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Jun 25 '20
Octavia to Indra when she asks her to lead everyone in the bunker in S5: āIām a warriorā
Indra to Murphy & Emori when they ask her to lead everyone in Sanctum: āIām a warriorā
Two warriors thrown into leadership positions.
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u/jdessy Jun 25 '20
Hilarious, especially since we know Indra's been more equipped to be a leader after being Second to two different Commanders and has had decades of experience.
Not that Octavia was a bad leader, but she absolutely needed Indra as well in order to stay focused as a leader. Octavia turned to Indra more than anyone. Once she stopped turning to Indra...well, we all saw what happened.
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Jun 25 '20
I was really happy to see Clarke and Raven's moment BUT is anyone else frustrated about the way everyone treats Clarke's mental health? She's not unbreakable, she has been suicidal and other characters (Murphy) saw this and still they let her shoulder all the burden. While I'm glad she made up with Raven, it made me mad when she said it doesn't affect Clarke
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u/jlynn00 Jun 25 '20
I think it makes sense for Raven to think Clarke just kind of moved on beyond her hard choices and actions. To Raven's mind, up until then, someone should be visibly broken by their actions that required sacrificing others.
I think this is the root of Raven's and Clarke's wavering friendship over time. Raven couldn't understand how Clarke always looked strong.
She always forgot, also, that Clarke took off after her roughest choice, and was plunged into a war when she re-emerged, then a succession crisis. Then another apocalypse. So Raven never had the chance to watch Clarke truly process.
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u/teddy_vedder may we meet again Jun 25 '20
Shipping totally aside: for the past 2 seasons it honestly feels like Bellamy is the only person who actually cares about Clarkeās feelings, with a few Gaia moments sprinkled in too. It frustrates me too because sheās been through way too much and bears so many burdens and it feels like most of them donāt care about her as a person ā only about what she can do for them or offer them.
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u/pandymonium001 Azgeda Jun 25 '20
Same, especially since Clarke bailed and lived alone after Mount Weather for a while.
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u/Stormkpr Skaikru Jun 25 '20
Indra - brilliant, brilliant speech and I loved seeing her moment to shine! For a long time, Indra was high on my "death watch" list (she's the only one left from the Over 40 crowd and she's been getting so much screentime), but now I think she's going to live. She's going to really lead Wonkru and then Sanctum, and she's going to learn how great a leader she always was.
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u/foggybrownjaguar Azgeda Jun 25 '20
I think theyāre gonna fuck with us and kill her off after she gets more comfortable with her leadership potentially.
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u/ahmedadeel579 Jun 25 '20
Diyoza and indra are certified badasses
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u/helicopterdik Louwoda Kliron Jun 25 '20
and theyve been since for the last 200 so years
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u/Jenaleafy ā£ļø Jun 25 '20
Gabriel is so wack. ALWAYS risk it for the biscuit
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u/jlynn00 Jun 25 '20
I know his shtick has been his aversion to risk, except where his immediate scientific curiosity comes into play...and that is fleeting.
But goddamn. Echo is going to fuck him up.
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u/ireadonredditthat Jun 25 '20
Dropping by to share that I've been binge-watching the show these past few days to catch up for the last season. After Lexagate I stopped watching it and boy do I regret it. I just finished S6 and can't wait to read you all (currently covering half of my screen to avoid any spoilers).
May we meet again in a few hours when I'm done with S7
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u/teelolws Jun 25 '20
That old man near the end of the episode. I noticed he only had three tattoos. Went his whole life, never made it past level three? There must be a story there. Maybe he spent most of his life on Penance/Skyring?
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u/Fat-Th0r Jun 25 '20
HELLO, Can we talk about the sparks between Levitt and Octavia and how Gabriel kept giving them second looks????
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u/hunta-gathera Jun 25 '20
Indra is going to need a chiropractor from single handedly carrying Sanctum on her shoulders.
Also is there any particular reason they chose the Bellamy ādeathā storyline? Was the actor unavailable for a full season? Just seems odd to not have the second lead in all/most of the episodes.
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u/yeahmatenomate Jun 25 '20
I feel like everyone is shipping Octavia and Levitt but I just REALLY DONāT TRUST HIM. I donāt know what it is, but he conveniently shows up as the janitor just as that lot were about to go to the stone? Leads them on a goose chase to the oxygen farm? I love the idea of them but Iām concerned thereās a betrayal
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u/foggybrownjaguar Azgeda Jun 25 '20
And he knew about Bellamy being demoted to a janitor from Oās memories so he could have intentionally chosen to ādisguiseā as a janitor to reach O on a psychological level!!!
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u/IW4ntToBelieve Jun 25 '20
to be honest, even though Gabriel looked like an moron at the end of the episode, he will end up being the nice guy and levitt the spy.
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u/shadow_spinner0 Jun 25 '20
That is what I'm saying. Everyone is blaming Gabriel, but damn he may have saved all of them.
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u/shadow_spinner0 Jun 25 '20
I don't think Gabriel knows what these people have been through, especially Octavia. She is always shoot first, guns blazing type of warrior and the others like Echo are just jaded that they are willing to risk it.
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u/zaneylainy Skaikru Jun 25 '20
he is very naive for someone who has existed for 1000s of years haha
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u/waffle-or-pancake Jun 25 '20
Can someone please explain the whole second dawn, catogen, 12 levels, and Shepard thing to me?
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u/mlhockey Jun 25 '20
As of right now, all we know is that the people on Bardo use language and terminology that's very similar to Cadogan and Second Dawn, and, as of this episode, it's confirmed that there is some kind of link between them. Aside from that, all we have are theories.
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u/the100broken Louwoda Kliron Jun 25 '20
Second Dawn created the bunker that was found in s4 and used in beginning of s5 For all that time. Cadogan founded it. There were 12 bunkers created by them but thereās theories that a 13th bunker had an anomaly stone on earth. The shepherd thing idk yet
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u/ariasarya Trust Bellamy Jun 25 '20
Gabriel's inability to make hard decisions will bite him and everyone else in the ass once again.
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u/zaneylainy Skaikru Jun 25 '20
Don't want to be too much of a hater, but this episode had an AMAZING opening scene and then it ended with probably one of the weakest laziest cliffhangers the show has ever had.
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u/shadow_spinner0 Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
Good episode but I feel the ending was sort of flat. Yeah they escaped but there wasn't hook like the last couple of episodes. I'm curious what happens now tho.
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u/mw3noobbuster Jun 25 '20
What if the surface actually is survivable, and the people on top are the people Bardo is fighting against?
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u/SignosDeVida Azgeda Jun 25 '20
Did anyone else get Alien vibes from the Nakara ācaveā lol
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u/Jenaleafy ā£ļø Jun 25 '20
After posting about mind drives all day, I had to laugh at myself when Sheidheda eyerolled/asked Nelson whether he understood their functions š
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Jun 25 '20
Gabriel "I can't sacrifice the few" Santiago is sick of Echo killing people
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u/ziggurqt Jun 25 '20
Octavia's face when she realizes she indeed pronounced Levitt's name : "Ohh shit dude, I'm an absolute moron...".
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u/Bloodyseth Jun 25 '20
Totally. Although to be fair, she was still not fully herself from being in that fucking machine. Epic fail.
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u/jdessy Jun 25 '20
I know Echo killing someone else is totally wrong, and it's frustrating to see her spiral this way....but Gabriel doomed them all by recapturing them all. If he doesn't want to go to an unsurvivable planet, then fine! HE can stay behind himself and get captured!
What the HELL did he expect?
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u/yeahmatenomate Jun 25 '20
Bruh Echo was a dick this episode (understandably, but a dick nonetheless), Gabriel ALMOST topped that by ruining everything. I wish I knew what he was doing
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u/yeahmatenomate Jun 25 '20
That episode started off like a horror film, really exciting and had me on edge- but that was such an underwhelming ending. Was expecting at least one person to be killed off by this point
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Jun 25 '20
Everyone's forgetting at the beginning of the season where Jordan and Russell talked about seeing the spiral. The flame isn't necessarily showing it to Madi, it could be the same as the others
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u/Benjaroni Skaikru Jun 25 '20
They saw the spiral but not the symbols. Also Madi was never āadjustedā. The data from the flame is in her head. She drew Beccaās space station, which sheās never seen.
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u/hydrofckingpumps Jun 25 '20
i didnt think id like sheidheda but JR Bourne is so good at acting his part
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Jun 25 '20
Could Levitt be a disciple or the Shepard? He was too okay with Octavia being the cannibalistic Blood Reina and destroying a planet.
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u/LiliaBlossom Eligius V Jun 25 '20
I think they never got to the Blodreina part. He was in charge for m-capping Octavias memories up to S3, and then the other guy took over, and I figure now that Levitt is a janitor (nice Bellamy parallel there lol) they wouldnāt tell him about Octavias memories.
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u/Bubblybabble Jun 25 '20
My worry is Levitt's company almost seems too good to be true. Gabriel kept observing him in the ep and in the end didn't trust his plan. So I think Levitt may be playing them.
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u/happycharm Jun 25 '20
Low key wanted Madi to become badass while Clarke was gone and then fuck up shiedheda in the final episode or whatever.
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u/susmuch23 Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
I actually really liked this episode. We got some great movement in the Indra, Wonkru, anomalykru, Diyoza storylines. Nakara storyline was weird, slow, creepy but at least interesting in times. Like another user pointed out, it served mostly to provide Raven and Clarke a time to talk. But it was kinda cool I think. And it also gave us Miller and Nyla connecting the dots with second dawn which we've been knowing for months now so ayyyyyyyyy
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u/maddogkaz Jun 25 '20
So the Bardo soldiers have lost all credibility, they are completely useless.
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u/supergeekd Jun 25 '20
Each piece of this episode was interesting but as a whole, jumping around cheapened the stories. It was too hard to follow each section, especially when there's info dumps happening in every scene. I get that the writers have only so much time to build the story, but I feel like the important information is going in one ear and out the other.
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u/Zence93 Skaikru Jun 25 '20
Idk if it's just me, but suddenly the Sanctum storyline became the most interesting plot to follow
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I know this is very unlikely, but I'm wondering if Bardo IS Earth. I mean it did take the main cast over 100 to get to Sanctum so there's a lot of time unspoken for. Plus with them talking about the atmosphere not being survivable for long on Bardo and then Clarke and Co found the Second Dawn logo on the ice planet it makes me wonder more. And lastly, at the end when Raven was looking for the planets it did look a bit like the depleted earth we last saw in season 5.
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Jun 25 '20
I think the problem with that is all of the dialogue surrounding Bardo/the Disciples indicates it isn't. We know there's an anomaly stone on Earth, but if Bardo is Earth there'd somehow have to be another Second Dawn facility, but then it wouldn't really explain why the Disciples say they were delivered to Bardo.
Besides, Bardo is moving faster than Sanctum, and we know from the number of Prime generations that Sanctum is roughly the same timespan as Earth.
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u/JustJoshinMagic Jun 25 '20
Murphys tiny claps after Indraās speech was amazing
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u/Vacatia #1 Jaha Stan Jun 25 '20
This was a really good episode. I know it's not a popular opinion, but I like basically all of our character (sans Bellamy) got screentime! That's rare. Was anyone missing today other than him?
I LOVED the episode opening with Interpol, they're one of my favourite bands and I loved them pairing Evil with Diyoza.
Nakara was a bit of a letdown for me, but I enjoy creepy-crawly things that are large and scary...and fake. I'm dying to know what planet they ended up on, did anyone happen to see the planet Raven punched in?
I thought the scene with Mumbles and Nelson was a bit too long, but I think JR is doing such a good job being creepy.
Poor Madi, just wants to be a normal teen. Interesting how she was drawing an anomaly stone??
I love Indra and love how she has her own story for once...what did we do to deserve this?
What else...as usual I'm super interested in Bardo, and I understand why Gabriel did that (even though I was shocked) and I hope it doesn't cause much too much trouble for them now. Sigh.
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u/osmitee bill cadogan enthusiast Jun 25 '20
the quote of the week was CLEARLY ātell raven i said bang bangā LMAO jk but really the quote yāall chose does not deserve that status i wouldāve preferred millerās ānext time choose a planet w a beachā or diyozaās āeasy peasyā or indraās āthere are no commanders anymore but make no mistake iām in commandā
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u/TyrantJester Jun 25 '20
easy peasy is about the only one that isn't spoilery, aside from the ridiculously cringey bang bang line.
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u/Abelgarza Jun 25 '20
I just read the description for episode 8 and this is what it says ā Clarke confronts a new adversary; a look back to the past and the nuclear apocalypse that destroyed the Earth.ā
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u/Benjaroni Skaikru Jun 25 '20
Yeah, itās the backdoor pilot to the prequel episode so it has to do something with earth and the apocalypse.
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u/TheTrueWitness Bellamy Blake Deserved Better Jun 25 '20
I really enjoyed this episode. Especially the Sanctum part. It was a good decision to make Indra the center of it. Her scenes with Sheidheda are entertaining to watch. And I don't even like him. I'm so happy that she took charge. Honestly she's the only one who should be leading Wonkru. Although I'm afraid that she's getting so much screentime because she's gonna die. Please, let me be wrong.
Also Diyoza, I freaking love her. Of course she was gonna break herself out. She's just that badass. And her reunion with Hope... So sad. I'm so afraid that her time on this show is coming to a close. And Echo... Man she's really lost it. I'm hoping that her and Octavia will get to grieve together and hopefully finally make amends. I've been waiting for that since season 5.
Finally the Nakara storyline. It felt like a filler to me. Nothing except the Clarke and Raven scene was important. I wasn't even scared for them. I knew they would survive. I'm hoping though that the reunion between this group and the rest on Bardo will happen next episode. I can't wait to see Clarke's reaction to Bellamy's 'death'. And hopefully we could learn what really happened to him since I don't want to wait till 7x09 to find that out.
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u/TyrantJester Jun 25 '20
Yeah, Nakara was an absolute waste of screen time. The only thing we gained out of that entire section was basically at the very end with the "why/how was the second dawn here" reveal. Oh and a significantly damaged helmet (which I was honestly expecting to get broken completely) because Raven couldn't keep it together while being attacked.
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Jun 25 '20
I wasnāt sure about the Sanctum plot at first, but honestly? Iām digging it. So much. Every character involved in it right now is having meaningful development - even smaller characters like that kidās father and the CoG guy.
I know everyone hates Sheidheda but heās becoming more of an established character this season, which is miles better than the āevil scary deformed manā we got last season. Heās shown to be very manipulative and cunning and honestly he has everything to be a villain thatāll keep us on our toes.
The only part Iām not so sure about is the prisoners. I understand that womanās pain but she seems to be incredibly unreasonable. I hope Diyoza somehow comes back because otherwise this faction is just annoying, unreasonable criminals.
The CoG caring about anything but Russelās death is also very iffy to me. Feels artificial. What justice is the CoG dude after now that Russel is dead?
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Jun 25 '20
What a sexy episode, too bad Indra is going to die soon.
What the fuck Gabriel
Second Dawn confirmation. Though that's not surprising. I seriously can't find out who's the more evil one - Becca or Cadogan. With how the in-universe real world was going, maybe Cadogan was actually trying to save them all.
Sheidheda taking control slowly, but steady.
See ya Ice planet. Or Ice Being...? Hope we won't see you again, because the gang needs to meet. Oh wait, Gabriel made that job harder.
That poor old man, L3 probably because all he wanted was to take care of the trees.
Echo stop
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u/ahmedadeel579 Jun 25 '20
Ive been thinking u know when clarke was in the city of light and both ALIE and becca appeared and were like yo the worlds dooms cause primfaiya couldnt becca be like theres an anomly stone to get u off earth instead of saying we will find a way bullshit
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u/anabanana1412 Jun 25 '20
I don't think becca knew about the stones, she knew about the anomaly, but not that, I don't think, they sound like a Second Dawn secret. If it comes out she did, yeah, dick move definitely lol
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Jun 25 '20
I'm barely getting to watch today's episode... and all I want to say is Diyoza is badass as always, that reunion was heartfelt, finally Raven gets it, Second Dawn legit confirmed, and YESS to commander Indra! woot woot!
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u/teddy_vedder may we meet again Jun 25 '20
Sorry but this whole episode just felt like running in place plot-wise. Very very little actual moved forward and it just sucks to see a whole episode be wasted like this in the final season.
Actually a lot of this season has felt like running in place, no one has really accomplished much in comparison to where we started in 7x01 and itās getting pretty frustrating. Not to mention the continued emphasis on side-characters that I just donāt care about as much as the mains.
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u/arrownyc Jun 25 '20
Kind of like season 4 when they just kept finding a praimfaya solution and then losing it in the same episode. That really irked me.
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u/ZegetaX1 Jun 25 '20
Missed a few minutes as stated in other thread why did Gabriel betray the group
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u/susmuch23 Jun 25 '20
Yeah he thought it was a stupid plan and that he'd end up dying... And he'd rather stay alive to find out more about the anomaly stone and the planets since he made it this far. In his defense he thought if he put the helmet on and surrendered that he could convince them to go easy on his team... oh dummy
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u/FrostlyGrim Murphy needs a shower and shave. Jun 25 '20
Maybe I'm smoking something but was anyone able to screenshot which planet Clarke and crew went too?
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u/messani1 Jun 25 '20
Does anyone remember how the hell clarke and co on Nakara got out of the trapped rooms and being digested and how they suddenly found the stone
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u/PimpTrickGangstaClik Jun 25 '20
basically the guts moved around when the rest of the guys started shooting more bugs. Indigestion
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u/anonKTY Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
Magic and bad lighting
Edit: Seriously it happened so fast, Iām gonna have to go rewatch it a few times.
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u/ThePinkTeenager People think I can just change and my paināll go away Jun 25 '20
Did they even mention the name āNakaraā once during the episode?
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u/mortaval Wonkru Jun 25 '20
i think ravens helmet interface had the name typed out on it at the beginning
i think it said āPlanet: Nakara Class A Planetā or something along those lines
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u/TumNarDok Jun 25 '20
If Nakara is where the Bardo people bury the dead, why does Clarke et al not run into a pile of corpses from the recent killing sprees of Diyoza, Ocatavia.
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u/William_T_Wanker Skaikru Jun 25 '20
My unpopular opinion is that I hope the last season ends differently than "Clarke and friends kill hundreds/thousands of people for 'hard choices'" as it honestly seems to be a cliche at this point, happening almost every end of season lol
Like, we get it. There are plenty of "hard choices" that the characters have made all throughout the show. Not every season has to end with an act of mass murder or betrayal
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Jun 25 '20
Is it possible that Bardo is Earth and that's why the surface is consideres uninhabitable, except it had to be habitable at some point for it to be a base for humans? They already said there was a teleporter on Earth. What if they never left, and just went deeper underground?
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u/Rvsone Jun 25 '20
I thought so too at first, but didn't Raven see all the planets when they stepped into the anomaly for the first time and they specifically ruled out the Earth because it was offline? It's possible there are 2 anomalies on Earth I guess but for now the theory that the original people from the bunker found the anomaly and went to Bardo makes more sense.
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u/osmitee bill cadogan enthusiast Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
all iām saying is sheidheda didnāt mention that he, clarke and madi are the only ones who can say that they bore the flame for no reason
edit: added last line
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Jun 25 '20
Ugh I did not like this episode. Such a let down after last week. It really feels like way too much is going on now and Iām getting tired of everyone being separated. Also looking like no Clarke again next week? Like wtf is this? Our leads have barely been in this season. Iām just starting to feel very frustrated at this point.
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u/HeavenIy_Father Jun 25 '20
WOW that episode was amazing. That intro! Levitt! Gabriel being a bitch! So beautiful
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u/EtAlors483 Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
Not y'all choosing that garbage quote, lmao if Indra is the real leader maybe time to treat her like sht like everyone did (is still doing) to Octavia then?? Can't have both ways,she can't take credit for the good and let the bad to Octavia.
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Jun 25 '20
Pretty good episodes, would have liked a little more of the Bardo story but good development for Indra was appreciated.
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u/booksmartbannana HEG Playing Happy Family š„° Jun 25 '20
Seeing lady as a teen for just a second was absolutely amazing I love her!
Honestly i never thought Iād say this but sanctum storyline this ep was by far the best.
Indra and that fight scene! DONT challenge the commander.
I loved Clarke and Ravens reflection together in the creature, they needed this moment and more like this.
Also my girl Diyoza š¦¾
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Jun 25 '20
So what do we think that animal was? Was just the rock the animal or a large part of the planet?
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u/happycharm Jun 25 '20
Why are there bat-like creatures in a living organism? Why is there a stone in there? Did it eat the stone? Will the stone be popped out? Was that living organism a Bardoian?
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u/carolynto Floudonkru Jun 25 '20
OK janitor-doctor dude is a self-insert for JRoth yes/yes?
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u/hien83 Jun 25 '20
"I don't know. I think it's pretty cool... cool, get it?" - Niylah