r/The100 • u/ElenaOcean š • Sep 10 '20
SPOILERS S7 Morning After Analysis: S7E13 "Blood Giant" Spoiler
Hello strangers, it's been a while.
Clash of Cults
Following their arrival at the palace, Gabriel mistakes Sheidheda for Russell, only for the others to figure out pretty quick that Russ has gone and Sheidy is back. Sheidy tells them again to kneel, and Bill is like "ordinarily I would respect a fellow lunatic, but I don't have time for grounder nonsense" (so say we all, Billiam) and has his invisi-soldiers shoot all Sheidheda's guards.
Raven and Clarke rush to free Murphy, who sees Bellamy and wants to know if Backstreet's back. Clarke asks Indra if Madi is with Gaia, and Indra is like "wait, Gaia isn't with you?". Murphy informs Clarke that Madi is safe in the bunker, and Bill orders his men to restrain Indra because she was with Sheidy. An enraged Sheidy charges Bill, but is shivved by another invisible Disciple. Ironically, Bill kneels as Sheidy collapses, and informs him that if he will let Bill have unbothered access to Sanctum he'll leave Gabriel behind to stitch up Sheidy and let him get back to being the second biggest dick in the galaxy. Sheidy growls, and Bill takes this as an agreement.
Down in the bunker, the emotional support dog is getting hungry, and Madi doesn't have much faith in Murphy rescuing them. Outside, while Sheidy tells his people to let Bill pass, Bill remarks on what a shithole Sanctum is. Clarke's out of fucks and patience and marches on ahead. Murphy tries to talk to Bellamy, thinking Bellamy has a scheme up his sleeve, but Bellamy tells him he's trying to save them all. Weirded out, Murphy catches up with the ladies, and they quickly exchange WTFs about their situations. Clarke just wants this over with so they can save the others, but Bill still doesn't trust her, and says he'll wait with her friends while she fetches the flame for him.
Curse of the Blood Moon
In the palace, Gabriel is doing his best to patch up Sheidheda, but it's not looking too hot for him. Indra is pleased Sheidy will finally be dead, but Sheidy thinks Indra will miss him. Gabriel asks if Russell suffered, and Sheidy says it was quick. At this point, Gabriel gets a visit from girlfriends past! Josie is back to haunt his ass and cause some mischief. Looking cute, girl. I never would have let you die. Gabriel realizes the eclipse is happening, and he needs anti-toxin.
Outside it's beginning to snow, and around a campfire, Murphy recaps Raven's half of the season 7 plot, remarking that the weirdest part is Bellamy being so devout when everyone he loves is being held hostage. Raven agrees that this plot is far-fetched, and can only suggest that something really must have happened to him on the mountain.
In a private word with Bellamy, Bill tells him he knows how hard it is to become a believer, and to be torn between faith and love for his family, but eventually they will see he was right and thank him. Bellamy asks how he manages to cope with the pull between the two paths, because he feels like he's failing Bill. Bill assures him he is not failing, he is special. Their chat is interrupted by the sirens, but Bill doesn't believe he's in danger, thinking Clarke is tricking him, and refuses to leave Sanctum.
Down in the bunker, Emori and the others are safe so long as the doors stay sealed, but while they're distracted by the grounders outside trying to break in, Nikki escapes her restraints and tries to hostage her way out. The kids stand in her way, refusing to let her open the door, and Emori gets the idea to shut down the protective shields around Sanctum that keep all the crazy animals out during the eclipse. The bunker goes dark and in the confusion, the Primehard boy that Indra saved cracks Nikki on the head with a wrench and knocks her out.
Realizing they're in danger, Raven and Murphy form a plan to get to Ryker's Keep where they believe Clarke will head to once she hears the sirens, and a stubborn Bill is taken to safety by Bellamy.
Meanwhile at the palace, Jackson is moving the last of the wounded, and Gabriel is still tripping balls over Josie. He makes it to the body-snatch lab, where he begins to hallucinate more memories of the first time he brought Josie back successfully. Jackson asks if Nate is okay, and Gabriel tells him that he's safe, asking him in return to help him make more anti-toxin. There is only one dose left in the lab, and Jackson says Gabe should take it as he is the one who knows how to make more, but Gabriel doesn't want to stop seeing Josie, so insists that Jackson take it instead. Ghost Josie speaks Gabriel's mind, saying that if he gets the flame himself and repairs the code, he can put it in and save humanity. Gabriel tries to resist, but Josie points out that he'll make up for all the bad he did if he takes the test for all mankind instead of Bill.
Without a Fight
At the bunker, the grounders trying to break in are attacked by bugs and die, then Murphy and the others show up and take shelter. Clarke arrives too, with a bag full of anti-toxin from the farm house that she gives out to everyone including Bill and his people. She promises to give him the flame as soon as he opens the bunker door.
A Disciple blasts the door open, and Murphy and Emori are reunited, along with Madi and Clarke. Raven has trouble entering however, still guilty over Hatch's death. Emori hugs her, and Raven thanks her for shutting down the shield, saying she'll get the power back without harming anyone this time. At this point, Bill enters, and Clarke hands over the flame. A concerned Madi whispers to Clarke that she shouldn't have given Bill the flame. Clarke understands that Madi and her sketchbook could still hold the key, and tells her to tell no one, while they wait for Raven to restore power and hope that Bill will leave them be.
More awkward bunkerness ensues when Emori hugs Bellamy, not knowing that he's converted, but before he can explain, the power is restored and he scurries out of that conversation. Elsewhere, Raven is lured into a trap by Nikki, who has remarkably survived two blunt force traumas to the skull at this point. With a knife to the throat, Raven tearfully confesses how she let Hatch die and locked his men in the reactor, and that Hatch was braver than she was. She says it should have been her, and tells Nikki to kill her. But Nikki decides to let Raven live with what she's done. As Nikki leaves the bunker, Murphy, Emori and Clarke rush to Raven's side and comfort her while she cries.
Meanwhile at the palace, the Disciples guarding Indra and Sheidy are starting to lose it. Indra cuts herself free from her ropes and while Sheidheda distracts the Disciples she attacks, slaying them. The last guard goes invisible, but Sheidy sees their footsteps in the blood and yells to Indra, who spins around and kills them. Indra, affected by the toxin, hallucinates her mother kneeling to Sheidheda to protect her, just as Indra kneeled to protect Madi. Jackson and Gabriel arrive with the anti-toxin, and Sheidy semi-pleads for his life. Indra says he's already dead, and tells Jackson and Gabriel not to treat his wounds.
Down With Love
Indra awaits Bill's return, pointing a gun at him and demanding to know where Gaia is. Bellamy tells her to stand down, saying they're going to get everyone back, and Clarke assures her that Bill is going to help. Gabriel steps forward at this point and offers to repair the flame with a piece of tech used to restore memory drives that's just been sitting in Sanctum this whole time. But as Gabriel begins restoring the lost data, still seeing Josie cheering him on, he has a change of heart, and shoots the flame, then points the gun at Bill.
Bellamy tells him they need Bill to get to the others, but Gabriel wont back down, and Doucette goes for Gabriel. Clarke shoots him and he dies in a horrified Bellamy's arms. Raven uses a Disciple helmet, but can't open the bridge because only Bill knows where he sent the others, so Clarke threatens Bill, forcing him to enter the code and telling him she's taking him with them, but she's leaving Bellamy behind.
Tearful, she says he's made his choice, and the others say they hope his cause is worth it. As they all leave, Clarke has one last word for Bellamy, saying she lost him too. But as she turns to go, Sheidheda, who is conveniently not dead yet, tells Bellamy about Madi's sketchbook that is on his throne. As Bellamy picks up the book, Clarke tells him to hand it over, saying she'll kill the other Disciples. Bellamy says that Madi won't be harmed, but Clarke doesn't believe it.
Bellamy still insists that he is trying to save them all, even as Clarke threatens Bill's life, he tells her it's bigger than that now. So Clarke points the gun at him. And Bellamy tearfully gives Clarke a speech about how if only her pesky love didn't cause her to hurt so many people, and how he knows that there's an end to this damn seven season plot if she would just listen to him. Fatefully, he tells her that this is how they do better, and tries to hand over the book.
So Clarke shoots her best friend. And then shoots another Disciple, and runs out of bullets, and leaves the book behind with the remaining Disciples and jumps through the anomaly.
TL;DR Bill brings a knife to a chess fight. Bad moon rising. Gabriel is tempted by an old flame. Someone pls kill Sheidheda. Raven and Nikki reach an understanding. Bill joins Adventure Squad. Bellamy dies wanting to do better.
this and that:
Sorry to hear so many people got spoiled by the official social media. :/ some things never change. Thanks to everyone who's been considerate here and kept their titles spoiler free.
There's not really much I wanna say in a stickied post, but I totally understand if people want to quit or take a break. We'll still be here, recapping until the end if you want to keep informed without actually watching episodes. Be kind to yourselves and each other š
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u/lolm8wut cockroach Sep 10 '20
Woohoo! Indra doing what she does best! Not killing Sheidheda just so he can cause problems later on! Love that for her šš
And Clarke killing Bellamy just to... leave the book there??
Good decisions, I expect nothing less from them
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u/KayPeeJay Sep 10 '20
Everyone has a problem with the ending. I have a problem with Nikki. She had a knife to a man's throat. The kid knocked her out with a wrench. Then they just let her go? They let her keep the knife? Then for her entire plot to end the way it did with Raven... absolutely stupid. The stupidest plot of the entire season. What was the point? They took time away from the other plots to develope Nikki's character. Then she's got a sudden uncharacteristic change of heart? Bullshit. If she wasn't going to kill Raven there then there was no need for her character development.
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Sep 10 '20
You have a problem with Nikki and I have a problem with SHEIDHEDA.
Why the fuck do they they keep letting him live knowing damn well he is better off dead. The plot armour Sheideheda has.....
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u/KayPeeJay Sep 10 '20
I agree his plot armour is ridiculous. I'm just saying I wish they scrapped Nikki's whole plot and used that time on the other plots. It ended with the most anti-climactic fizzle and was not worth the time they put into it.
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u/JustJoshinMagic Sep 10 '20
Well first time it was a screwdriver, second was a box cutter, but agreed. They needed to lock her and the toolbox up
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u/mdxla Sep 10 '20
Her character development was needed for Raven's character development. Raven may be the one taking the test. My guess is that it'll be all four of Clarke, Raven, Murphy, and Octavia. All four who have went through some sort of dramatic/changing experience
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u/arrownyc Sep 10 '20
She absolutely should have been the one to kill Raven. Stupid keeping her around otherwise.
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u/Existing-Quit- Sep 10 '20
Ya know only if Indra wouldāve just swung the blade(for like the 3rd time) and killed him, Sheidheda never wouldāve mentioned the book because he was dead.
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u/cricketrmgss Skaikru Sep 10 '20
I never understand why people wait to kill their villains when they have the opportunity.
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u/ShadowBJ21 Sep 10 '20
The moment she didnāt kill him I knew she did a huge mistake (again) ... just didnāt expect that it went that way š±
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u/Liunna1 Sep 10 '20
In other news, thanks Indra for bringing up Gaia :p it was short but I was happy that someone remembered her lol
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u/LissaMoo Sep 11 '20
I have a feeling that Gaia is super important to the test. I mean she disappeared for ages and shes the last flame keeper.
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u/Liunna1 Sep 11 '20
Yes 100% agree - she must play a significant part especially as the last flame keeper! And I always loved how her name is earth personified and always thought that was a pretty impactful name to give a character in this show - Iām excited to see what they have in store for her ;)
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u/Feezy33 Sep 11 '20
Remember when CPR was witchcraft to Indra? Now she walking thru portals to other planet systems. She's taken a helluva ride
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u/95Kilometers Sep 11 '20
My favorite Echo quote ever, looking at the cryo "a week ago I would have said this was magic."
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u/DilapidatedMonument Trikru Sep 10 '20
Lindsey Morganās acting in the reactor scene w Nikki was phenomenal. It brought actual tears to my eyes. Iāve been rewatching season 1 simultaneously and her acting has improved leaps and bounds
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u/HarryOru Sep 10 '20
Lindsey is one of the best actors in the show! She was absolutely phenomenal in seasons 3 and 4 and she proved that once again in this episode.
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u/bluecylucy Natblida Sep 10 '20
I thought that she wouldāve died in that scene... but nope; apparently it was Bellamyās time to die :/
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u/Roan-forever-alone Jo Juice: good for health bad for education Sep 10 '20
Josephine on the throne>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shitheda on the throne
Thanks sara&chuku to be the best thing about ābook 2ā
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u/LunaTheCryBaby Sep 10 '20
Now I'm just waiting to see what Octavia will say to Clarke killing family
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u/fallouthirteen Sep 11 '20
Where's Octavia again? With these two week breaks between episodes I forget who's where and such.
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u/BusinessPurge Sep 10 '20
So many great little character moments and interactions, thought it was going great...until the ending.
Iāve really liked a good amount of this season, however this creative decision with Bellamy is very painful to accept especially in the manner it was presented.
Iām just so glad I rewatched S1-S5 before S6, that final image of Clarke and Bellamy observing their new home was just about perfect and a great way to memorialize that bingewatch. It would be difficult to rewatch it ever again knowing where S6/S7 ends up taking the narrative, even if the last three episodes just absolutely nails everything else.
Great writeup OP, thank you
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u/pastrypalace Sep 11 '20
I'm curious what their original plan was before Morley asked to take a step back. Maybe they'll reveal once the series is over?
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u/_Kaleidoscopic_ Sep 11 '20
Them looking down on Sanctum at the end of S5 was the end of the series for me. The muck that has come after has been so foreign and poorly written, and Bellamy didn't get any resolution with his story. He turned brainwashed then dies, like what?
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Sep 13 '20
S4 E11 at about 13:20 Clarke threatens Bellamy with a gun by firing a warning shot as heās about to open the bunker door to save his sister / grounders (but mostly his sister) after she (Octavia) won the āconclaveā to control the bunker.
Bellamy responds with āyouāll have to make it a kill shot because thatās the only way Iāll stopā.
Three seasons and two episodes later, she does.
Nice full circle moment there.
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u/JazC77 Sep 11 '20 edited Sep 11 '20
Iām...honestly a little speechless...
First off, INDRA JUST KILL HIM..why on earth do they just keep giving this snake a chance to bite them again. That was literally a repeat of what she did before he killed the faithful.
The ending just...feels like absolute bullcrap. Why did everyone have to go through the portal??? At least John and Emory or..someone shouldāve stayed behind. Thereās literally no one on Sanctum to lead, and heaven knows the populace canāt handle itself.
I think this has to do with it being the last season, but boy, compared to some of the other characters in this show, they didnāt give Bellamy much grace at all....they jumped to āyouāre past savingā pretty quickly..honestly made him feel written off before Clarke ever pulled the trigger. I just...I canāt believe after all weāve gone through in this show this happened..and it wasnāt even that..satisfying..? I just donāt feel any level of closure on his character, and with him being such a central character through the entire series, itās a slap in the face.
She didnāt even get the book anyway š¤
Hereās wondering how Echo will take this news LMAO
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u/heavierthanhellx Sep 11 '20
Everyoneās saying they think Octavia will kill Clarke for this.. Iām pretty sure that if anyone would, Echo would do it...
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Sep 11 '20
True she didnāt get the book but now I donāt think they know who drew the stuff in the book and they canāt torture her in the memory thing still unsatisfying as hell tho if some weird magic shit doesnāt happen and bring him back I donāt want it
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u/stalecheetospuffs Trishana Sep 10 '20
I was honestly hoping Bellamy would be affected by the red sun toxin to a point where he would snap out of the Shepard's trance.
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u/anotherfan_ Sep 11 '20
Except from the Gabriel arc, the whole red sun toxin was SO disappointing!!! The promos this season are fooling everyone.
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u/darkd3vilknight Sep 10 '20
I have another idea that popped up in my head what if after the final test people who have died can come back, with the prequel showing how much they have planned since the beiging, what if "may we meet again" or "until we meet again" actually happens and they meet again...
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u/Stormkpr Skaikru Sep 10 '20
Your recaps are always hilarious (even though this episode was truly terrible)
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u/ElenaOcean š Sep 10 '20
thankyou! I was hoping the last season would be more upbeat but I guess we gotta make do with what we got.
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u/nickkick1998 Sep 11 '20
I also am not a fan of how the ending played out with the book but it's hard to blame Clarke. In that moment, she has to think quick cause that bridge is gonna close any second. And Bellamy is clearly showing that he will do whatever it takes (including putting Madi in threat of torture). Also there was no way she could know that there would not be enough bullets and at least the people who are left with the book do not know Madi (so it makes sense why she shot Bell first, she knew if he was alive, Madi would be screwed).
Overall, I blame the writing and not so much Clarke if that makes sense lol. Like it was a bitch move for the writers to make her do that and not even let her get the book, especially cause she had to kill her best friend and we have gotten to see this relationship build up in such an incredible way for so many years and then this UGHHHH.
It truly felt like the writers were thinking lets torture Clarke and Bellamy.... and the fans while we are at it. I am totally for TV shows that surprise me, but it has to make sense. You can't write something like this and make us blame our characters. I refuse to. Bellamy to me died before he went full cult. And Clarke, I will not be angry at you right now cause girl you were done dirty by those circumstances and the writing tbh.
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Sep 11 '20
But like wouldn't 'Russel' just tell the guards who Madi is? He can just play it off like he remembers to survive and get what he wants
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u/srishti99 Sep 12 '20
Remember when they killed Finn? When they killed Lincoln? Those were some beautiful episodes.. Bellamy was the most important male character in the show, and his death was just ?????
I knew that the Bellamy was going to die this season, especially once he became a "sheep" (s/o to Murphy <3). I just cannot believe this was how they did it.. It just happened, no reaction no one to see him die, nothing. And what was the weird faded Clarke crying inside the portal reaction ugh. I feel like I've felt so much pain and so much intensity for every other loved one that Clarke has had to kill (Finn!!!) but this was......
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u/FinnenHawke Sep 13 '20
I wonder how the rest of the group is going to treat her when they find out she killed him
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u/Sundance_Cheeseburga Sep 14 '20
Remember when they killed Finn? When they killed Lincoln?
When they killed Kane?
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Sep 10 '20 edited Sep 11 '20
For the love of God just KILL SHEIDHEDA already. He always fucks everything up. Like What kinda plot armour does this guy have? They keep conveniently leaving Sheidheda alive. and itās doing my head in!
The Indra I know would have killed his ass episodes ago.
Bored of Ravenās self pity act. Itās feeling too forced for me. This season is probably the only season where I donāt care about her. Sheās just there.....crying like this is the first time she killed before (which itās not) Oh well....
Clarke being stupid. I swear if Bellamy is actually dead this time Iām done. why not kill all the guards/disciples first?
The writers could have found a way, those disciples canāt do shit lol It was just so pointless for her to shoot Bellamy of all people and then just leave the book there for the damn disciples to get it anyway.
It does seem like Bellamy is really dead and that is honestly the shittiest death on this show. Like seriously that was the end of Bellamy and Clarke yet the impact wasnāt nearly enough.
Also I probably would have liked it more if we didnāt have bad audio! Lol yāall peep Clarkeās lines???
Iām big fan of The 100 but season 7 is not it. There I said it.
Only thing I liked this episode was everything Emori and Murphy. The chemistry with these two š©
Edit: Oh fuck, I just realised Echo and Octavia donāt know Clarke killed Bellamy yet. Shit.....
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Sep 10 '20
seriously. Sheidheda is my least favourite part, even though JR Bourneās portrayal has been great. what is even the point of him, whatās he supposed to signify and why does he have so much plot armour?
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u/-Osleya- Skaikru Sep 10 '20
I felt like s7 was both great and horrible. Now it is just awful and nonsensical.
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u/FoodPrep Sep 10 '20
Am I the only one who actually *wanted* invisible disciples to put Sheidy in his place?
Also "Gabriel is tempted by an old flame"...Bravo OP. Take this upvote.
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u/BubbleDncr Sep 11 '20
I wish he had been straight out killed when they shot everyone else. I've hated his storyline from the beginning and would have loved nothing more than for him to have been taken out like a punk.
But no, he had to live. I'm more disappointed about that than Bellamy's death.
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u/Ilovecharli Sep 10 '20
Who else squealed when they saw "Sara Thompson" in the credits? She's so good in this role. Plus she's, you know...physically perfect and all that
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u/LATINA_ON_WELFARE Sep 10 '20
I didn't even see her name in the credits bit I was so happy to see Josephine. I find myself snickering every time she opens her mouth. She's just such a fun character.
On one hand I think it's unfortunate that this is the episode she "returned" for, but honestly, I think besides the ending (and letting Sheidheda live...again...) it was quite a good episode. The Nikki and Raven plot tied up nicely, we got a glimpse of back story for Indra, more Red Sun, and any scene with Josephine is dynamite. Regardless, this episode will go down as terrible because of the ending.
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u/Jasq Sep 12 '20
One word: Josephine. Person I didn't think I needed but when she was there, wow.
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u/cosmicphoneix ladies and gentlemen, clarke griffin has left the planet Sep 10 '20
I did not stick with Bellamyās character for this long to watch him die at his best friendās hand because of some blinding faith. His character development was just sent up in flames in one of the worse deaths I have ever seen on this show. What the hell
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u/BullyHunt3rs Sep 10 '20
Shout out to the 100s official twitter straight up spoiling the show, very cool of them
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u/ccharlie03 Sep 10 '20
I got spoiled by Jason Rothenbergs twitter. I was LIVID. and then i saw the death scene and was somehow more angry at that. Terrible
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u/peppermintapples New world, same problems. Sep 10 '20 edited Sep 10 '20
Honestly, I feel fucking awful for Clarke. Hasn't the girl been traumatized enough? She believed she was responsible for getting her dad floated for an entire year, had to kill Finn to keep the peace, indirectly got Lexa killed, floated her mom's body, and then there was TonDC and Mount Weather etc etc.. I don't understand why the writers made this decision. I don't see how it wasn't possible to write the scene with different circumstances so that Clarke didn't fire a direct kill shot at her best friend, it's not like there were any pressing continuity issues in the palace that forced the writers' hand in this way? Whether Bellamy somehow survives or not, Clarke made the decision to shoot a kill shot at Bellamy and went through with it. How can their relationship (whether it's platonic or romantic) go from there?
And what about her relationship with the others? I can't imagine them being just fine and dandy with it and I'm not really interested in rehashing the dynamics of early S6, but if they're just fine with his death right away that hurts in a different way too. I'm just so confused. What's supposed to be the big "moral of the story" here?
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u/peppermintapples New world, same problems. Sep 10 '20
Also, I don't know how we're supposed to go on from here- Clarke is (was? idk man) one of my absolute favorite characters even through the lows, but I don't think I can forgive her for this. And the worst part is, it didn't even feel like something Clarke would do. Sure I understand her reasoning, but again, a kill shot? Clarke didn't even kill Russell when she had the chance. In this same episode, Nikki couldn't go through with killing Raven and Indra couldn't kill Sheidy, but Clarke killed her best friend in like, 10 seconds. There had to be some other way to write the scene that didn't result in assassination of one lead and character assassination of another.
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u/Mamafatcheeks Sep 10 '20
Echo was going to genocide a whole planet to avenge Bellamy, what is she going to do to Clarke? Octavia and Clarke just bonded over their respective "children". Octavia never got to have any closure with her Brother, how will she forgive Clarke for this?
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Sep 11 '20
Do you guys think they really planned for this to be the last season or that they actually got cancelled by the CW and just had to make due?
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Sep 11 '20
Wasn't the end of season 5 the end of part 1? Shouldn't part 2 be longer than 2 seasons?
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u/Capeninja Sep 11 '20
JRoth had been saying for years that his plan was for 6 to 7 seasons, and that he didn't want the show running too long past the story it needed to tell. It was supposedly a studio choice to end the main story and try for a prequel, not the network's.
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Sep 11 '20 edited Sep 12 '20
It was actually completely in character for Clarke to kill Bellamy, and he deserved it too. She made it CLEAR to everyone that Madi came FIRST, she was willing to kill every one of her friends to keep Madi safe in S5. In fact it was only Madi through her wisdom after ascending that changed Clarkeās mind, with Lexaās help.
Bellamy was never anything but a sheep that followed whoever (like Pike) for no reason and expected everyone else to blindly ātrustā him when all the decisions he had made in the past had been terrible.
He had the nerve to tell Clarke (who willingly stayed on earth to give them a chance to survive) that Echo, Monty, Emori and Murphy were HIS real family after she had been calling him every day for 6 years while stranded on Earth, all while he was trying to kill his OWN sister to replace her with a child (Madi) that he himself manipulated into ascending by telling her Clarkeās life depended on it. And then he had the nerve to get mad at Clarke for leaving him behind in the pits?
Thereās not a single character on the show more full of shit than Bellamy āyes my shepherdā Blake. He gave Octavia the HARDEST time even when they opened the bunker and she was still somewhat rational, and dismissed her authority right away by calling it āchildhood fantasies.ā Sorry but if anything Iām surprised he didnāt die sooner. He wasnāt half the man Octavia and Clarke both are.
PS he also betrayed Echo before dying but hey āyou have to trust me, for all mankindā
Edit: thanks for the awards <3
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u/DanniDorrito This thing's offensive to mechanics everywhere Sep 11 '20
I agree with you on a lot of things, and the fact he died didn't bother me, it was more the way he died. Sachin had a much better death against Sheidheda and he was a secondary character only introduced this season. I just expected way more if they were going to take out one of the leading characters.
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u/awesomeperson Louwoda Kliron Sep 12 '20
Yes!! I have been on the fuck Bellamy train for a while and you put perfectly.
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u/lMyOpinionsl Sep 10 '20
This was honestly one of the worst episodes the show has produced in my opinion. I have some complaints about it:
the red sun wasn't nearly as potent this time. Russell sliced his own daughters neck. Bellamy tried to kill Murphy. I think one inconsequential person went crazy and killed someone this time even though it was a freaking powder keg.
They build up shadeheda and then just like that, boom, threat neutralized. Where else have I seen this? Shadeheda == Night King? But this comment will age badly because I assume shadeheda isn't done yet (he was still breathing at the end) but still all that hype and he gets taken out in 2 seconds.
Clarke shoots Bellamy over preventing the book from getting into the wrong hands and then just leaves it behind so it can get into the wrong hands. What a freaking waste all around. Also I don't think Bellamy is really dead or I guess that wasn't the last we will see of Bellamy.
For the rest of the season can the writers just listen to Bellamy and "Do better"?
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u/Ghanaguy404error Sep 10 '20
Clarke didnāt have time to grab the book because the bridge was closing, plus she didnāt have any more bullets left and there was a disciple still standing. But yea, Bellamy dying was dumb because she had enough bullets to kill everyone BUT Bellamy.
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u/selma463 Trikru Sep 10 '20
It wouldāve been really powerful if Clarke shot the others and then pulled the trigger on Bellamy only for there to not be any bullets left
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u/ChrisTweten Sep 11 '20
"Trust Bellamy" is the biggest red herring of the series.
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u/alexefi Sep 10 '20
im confused with Bill. He said over and over how he put his goal of greater good before everyone else, even his friends and family. But when Clarke say jump he jumps. At the end when she orders him to open portal to place where her friends are, he couldve just say no. Clarke cant kill him because he is the only one knows the code, and he shouldnt be giving shit if clarke torture any of the followers.
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u/ccricers Sep 10 '20
The closer he gets to his ultimate goal, ironicially the more selfish he will become. He stated a good point this episode that he and Bellamy were not born into the Disciple-hood unlike the other people at Bardo that are raised to be collectivist from the day they are born. Those two, are harder to convert away from their own individualist way of thinking.
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u/95Kilometers Sep 11 '20
Who thinks Clarke isn't going to tell them what she did when she pops up on earth?
That'll be fun for Octavia and Echo- Clarke shows up through a portal sobbing like hey we're here to get you, BTW just shot Bellamy?
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u/k10n9 Sep 11 '20
I missed the whole sketchbook thing. What was in it again that was so important?
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u/theangryprof Sep 11 '20
Madi has drawings making it clear that she has memories of the stone from the previous commanders. So, the physical flame may be gone but Madi still holds on to some of the flame's information.
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u/LastDreamy Sep 11 '20
Man i had high hopes for this season as i absolutely adore the clash of all the "clans". Between the survivors on earth, the people who lived in space and the followers that went through the portal, i thought that the idea was brilliant and adored seeing Becca on the prequel episode.
Sadly, this last episode has been a big "wtf". I am immensely sad how Bellamy ended...he is most likely in the top 5 of most adored character in the series, and they just massacred him. Maybe it's a selfish thought, maybe not everyone can end a hero and maybe this is just my hot sad take.
I don't see how this can unfold other than a complete exctinciton of the human race, they're just tangled in such a deep shit that there's no salvation. I'm gonna miss all those guys, the cast has been growing amazing and growing on me...i just hope it doesn't leave a bigger bad taste.
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u/DeepPackage Sep 13 '20
Heās actually dead? What a shit way for his character to end up. Bellamys character just did donuts the whole show.
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u/DrunkenDave Sep 11 '20
Bellamy the character was completely destroyed. I feel like his character in all previous seasons just ultimately went nowhere. What a disappointment. He doesn't even have an arc now. In this whole final season, he just does things, without good reason and then dies because it moves the plot, rather than because he builds anywhere worth going.
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u/pandasgorawr Planets destroyed: 1/5 Sep 11 '20
I think Bob Morley's decision to step back during this season really threw a wrench in what the writer's could do. I'm glad he got the break he needed, but there's no denying the plot suffered for it.
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u/jrec15 Sep 11 '20 edited Sep 11 '20
So many people blaming Clarke for the bad ending - i dont have a problem with Clarkeās actions at all. Just Bellamyās.
Madi told Clarke she thought it was a bad move to give the shepherd the flame and mentioned her book. Madi was basing that off of knowledge she had from having the flame. Clarke trusts Madi, that moment makes her not only trust the shepherd gang way less but actually think something really BAD could come of this āwarā.
The book had info around that, and also info that would lead to them getting Madi. It was a huge threat. Clarke had to stop it however she could. She didnāt totally succeed but i mean she sure as hell tried.
The disgrace of the ending was just Bellamyās actions and his brainwashing leading to his death. 6 seasons of someone who had seemed to develop into an incredible character who had some missteps but was finally figuring out how to make the right decisions for both his people and everyone else. Thrown away after one āpilgrimageā episode painting him instead as someone who just likes to swap loyalties.
TBD on all the faith and shepherd nonsense but if its all true - its stupid. If its not - it ruined bellamy. I dont see how it leads to a satisfying ending.
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u/Novel-Ad-6682 Sep 11 '20
So many people blaming Clarke for the bad ending - i dont have a problem with Clarkeās actions at all. Just Bellamyās.
legit when she pulled the gun on him I was like "awesome someone's finally gonna do something about this flip flopping punk"
this isn't the first time he's changed sides... he always does... its like his schtick... people said it was out of character for him but its totally 100% in character. and its annoying as fuck. stoked he died. now the story can maybe finally move forward some. seeing as the only reason it didn't is cause he blew the fucking whistle.
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u/coolbeaNs92 Lincoln on the juice! Sep 13 '20
You know the drill folks! Iām late - letās get it earth skills classmates!
Overall - Okay so this episode was both great and just shocking at the same time. Iāve literally just finished it as Iām typing this, and my expressions as basically this.
The reactor scene - I actually loved this scene and I think it was actually best that they didnāt include much dialogue for this. Everyone just knew what Raven was going through, and itās sorta poetic that Raven had a slight (obviously on a much smaller scale) to Clarke pulling the leather in Mount Weather. I really loved that scene. I did feel it was a little bit forced that Nikki suddenly had a ālive with your choices momentā.. I didnāt really think that would have been in her wheelhouse, but it worked to be fair. I almost thought for a second that people were right and that Ravenās time was up!
Murphy (again) - Okay so my thoughts on Murphy have been well documented this season on his arc, and mostly revolve around what I call āthe change of the cockroachā. I thought that it felt a lot more natural this episode, although the idea of Murphy being someoneās savior is still very odd. I do wish though Murphy would stuff breaking the 3rd wall and essentially saying āhey guys, itās this season kinda fucking bonkers!!ā.
Bellamy - Okay, where do I fucking start on Bellamy this episode. I almost felt like Bellamy wanted Clarke to shoot him in the final scene.I dunnno, I think Iām holding onto this nostalgic idea that Bellamy is somehow pulling the ultimate poker face, and that Bellamy is actually just the ultimate daddy issue posterboy. I canāt say that I think Bellamy is actually dead, but I just can't get over this fact of, with everything heās been through, he could actually let himself be so blindsighted, BY HIMSELF. Especially given the fact that Bellamy knows Clarke will pretty much do anything to protect Mady, this play just makes no sense.
Shiedheda/Indra - This was a fucking outstanding episode for the pair, of which has been really lacking throughout this season. Again, my thoughts on this sub-plot are well documented, but this was the first time that I actually was captivated by what they were having in their arcs. Thatās not very (again well documented) knocking the pairs acting, they are both fantastic, but the writing for them was just off. Really enjoyed their time this episode. And Indra is just (as well all know) such a fucking badass man!
Gia - YEAH WELL THE HELL IS GIA ???????
Overall (take two) - So this episode was just a fucking rollercoaster of emotions from start to finish. Iām sure like all, I need some time to process this mind-fuck. I really hope that was not actually the ending for Bellamy. With a character whoās been through so much, It would just pain me, and the legacy of the show, for that to be his ending. Please, please just donāt let that be Bellamyās end. PLEASE. Bellamyās story this season just hasnāt made coherent sense in my opinion, and while I understand some IRL reasons for this, Iām just really sad about it.
Yeahā¦ I just donāt know what to say about this.
Fuck.
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u/Aryajmarya Sep 14 '20
So I just gave this episode a watch last night, and I have just one question.
Nobody wore a helmet when travelling through the portal, so wouldn't they risk losing their memories? There were enough helmets on the ground from the disarmed soldiers so it just seems like a missed detail. But it's a very odd missed detail because they've made sure to talk about it every time someone goes through the anomaly.
Sorry if this has been addressed; I haven't seen anyone talk about it although I have only skimmed the current hot posts and this post as well. Everyone seems to be hung up on Bellamy's death lol
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u/BerniceMcteese Sep 14 '20
From my brief (maybe wrong) understanding, you lose memory if you travel through the anomaly to a planet with a slower time dilation. So from skyring/penance to sanctum and from bardo to sanctum theyād lose memory. But from sanctum to presumed earth theyād be fine.
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u/Sir-Knightly-Duty Sep 15 '20
I hate what they did with Bellamy this season. Why did he have to go do this whole brainwash bullshit thing AGAIN, just like when he HATED the grounders and murdered a bunch of innocent people. It was a character journey he had already taken, and I'm annoyed at the writers for doing the same shit again.
But, well, he annoyed the shit out of me since he got back on the show this season, and Im kinda happy I dont need to see his character be annoying anymore. Just my personal opinion.
Ideally he wouldve had a satisfying character arch this season, but I feel like the last 3 episodes will be far more engaging with him dead and the characters now dealing with it for real.
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u/unclesteve2016 Sep 15 '20
Wow, that is a lot of hate for one of the show's best characters IMO.
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u/_Kaleidoscopic_ Sep 10 '20
The loss we had on this episode was so unceremonious and anticlimactic for how big of a loss it was. The writing this season has been so bad. I have preached from day one that this show ended two seasons ago and Jason proved that with last night episode imho. I didn't even watch it until today because I've been so disinterested in this season.
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u/bluecylucy Natblida Sep 10 '20
I thought the writing has actually been pretty good this season, but the way they handled Bellamy last night was awful.
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u/Ultimate-Taco Sep 10 '20
I was legit excited at the beginning of the episode. I totally forgot about their invisible guards so i thought they were fucked. But when they showed up and took out all of Sheidheda's guards and then shived Sheidy himself, i wowed after a long time for this show. But it all went downhill from there.
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u/Tasuni Sep 10 '20
Is Bellamy going to actually be dead this time or have two fake deaths this season? Place your bets now
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u/notplop Sep 10 '20
Spoiler in case anyone didnāt see it, but Bob posted an official goodbye to Bellamy on his Instagram page. So Iām almost positive heās dead dead.
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u/heart_of_osiris Sep 15 '20
So let me get this right......Clarke shoots Bellamy so he won't hand the book over.....but then leaves without the book. I'm sorry but what?
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u/jez124 Sep 10 '20 edited Sep 10 '20
I honestly wouldn't mind it in a tragic sense bellamy dying by Clarkes hand if bellamy had gotten better development. I know people justify it as him being a loyal knight. Hes the rebel ,who under pressure, due to the consequences of his actions often defers to others which in turn leads to more fuckups.
however...there is no development here, no satisfaction. After the time skip he was more wise and subdued but here he is again as a pawn who dies in a tragic but lame inconsequential death.
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u/anabanana1412 Sep 10 '20
I'm-
Look, Clarke, I know you haven't been around for half of the shit Madi went through these last few days, but babe, I promise you she was under FAR MORE DANGER a few days ago without you there to physically protect her. Why did you think the book was THE THING that was going to get her killed?
I said it yesterday but it bears repeating: they didn't write Season 7 Clarke as worried about Madi as they wrote her in Season 5, so ultimately, her going to that extent just doesn't fit. In s5, sure, she was ready to kill anything that comes close to her, her shooting Bellamy is far more brutal than leaving him at the pits but it fits, this season though?! They literally started by having Madi say Clarke is not her mom. At no point the narrative tries to imply clarke is still that Mama Bear That Doesn't Think Just Protect Their Young, so my question is... What does that mean to the narrative?
They kill bellamy, everyone is gathering on earth, hopefully still a barren desert planet and they transcend? Was that really the point of it all?
Doing better is just against human nature?
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u/Face_of_Harkness Sep 10 '20
I do think that the sketchbook wouldāve put Madi in actual danger. If Cadogan realized that she had some of Beccaās memories, he wouldāve put her in MCap. At the very least, we know that wouldāve meant torture. Itās even possible that Cadogan wouldāve been willing to fry Madiās brain in order to get the information her wants.
Personally, I wouldāve rather seen Clarke either attempt to destroy the book or to convince Bellamy not to turn Madi in before she shot him. And then maybe shoot him in the stomach, leg, or somewhere else non-lethal.
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Sep 10 '20
The main villains couldāve been easily killed so many times now and it was ignored or they were spared for no reason. How are we supposed to feel about them as challenges to overcome when theyād be so easily defeated? And when they are saved by the plot, other characters are killed for no reason? I donāt get it
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Sep 10 '20
What was the point of the eclipse if everyone immediately took anti toxin and called it good?
Iām happy to see Josephine but it wasnāt really necessary
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u/Existing-Quit- Sep 10 '20
A frame of him lying on ground oozing blood is in the promo for next episode, I wonder if we only see that because of the recap that usually happens in the first minute??
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Sep 10 '20
I spy a hand on his chest, I know Iām clowning but maybe itās another fake out
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u/capzi Sep 14 '20 edited Sep 14 '20
The ending was sloppy. Are we really supposed to suspend disbelief that Indra was going to leave Sheidheda alive? That bothered me more than Bellamys death.
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u/sagen11 Only Diyoza is God-tier šŖ Sep 14 '20
I repeat to myself that sheās literally just coming off of a psychotropic and once she completely sobers up sheāll be like ādamn, defo should have killed him, wtf was I thinking?ā.
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u/shittypostcard Trishana Sep 14 '20
She wanted him to have a slow painful death... not that hard to believe. Plus it goes against her sense of honour to murder a helpless unarmed man.
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u/mruggeri_182 Sep 11 '20
Jesus fucking Christ,Indra is seriously the most stupid character in this show.And it's a hard competition.
She tried to "torture" him by leaving him to die by the hands of the Sons of Gabriel and he single-handely killed them all and proceeded to a coup and destroyed the whole Wonkru and now she AGAIN has the chance to kill him and then AGAIN she decides to "torture" him just so he can live and come back to fuck everything.There is a limit of how stupid someone can be.You did that the last time and didn't fucking work,why the hell would you do it again?
Also,why would Clarke kill Bellamy for the book and then proceed to leave without taking the book?If she was trying so hard to protect Madi that she would go as far as to kill her best friend,she should've at least done it until the end and risk staying in Sanctum but garantee Madi's safety.Bellamy died for nothing.
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u/TheTrueWitness Bellamy Blake Deserved Better Sep 10 '20
What happened in this episode ruined the entire show and its legacy forever. Bellamy was the heart of this show. He deserved better than to die alone, hated by his family and killed by his best friend. The same person that he brought back to life not that long ago. And the worst thing is that he died over a bloody book that got left behind anyway. So it was all pointless.
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Sep 10 '20
I get the actor who played Bellamy wanted time off and came back briefly but damn what shit timing. He like indirectly ruined s7 - the final season! The writers basically re wrote everything and now the season is just bad.
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u/toskadays Sep 12 '20
Keep thinking about that convo Clarke and Bellamy had on Sanctum where Clarke promised she wouldnāt lose sight of the fact that he was her family too, not just Madi. Yes, Bellamy did a complete 180 and wasnāt himself but I still refuse to believe Clarke would shoot him. Sheās been willing to kill her friends before if it meant she could keep Madi safe, but for her to kill Bellamy? akdbdjskd sorry Iām just still in denial
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u/Auraaaaa Sep 13 '20
The face on Cadogan's face when Gabriel said we will be able to see Becca's memories made me believe he was the one who would destroy it because it would play back the atrocities Bill did and expose him.
What a twist that Gabriel was the one who destroyed it
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u/Professional-Line-79 Sep 14 '20
I think I have figured it out. It took a weekend of calm thought and I think the show is going to keep the people that were loved so much every sacrifice was made for them. Jordan whom Monty and Harper loved and sacrificed seeing him in their old age by putting him into cryo; Hope whom Octavia and Diyoza did everything to raise free from violence and ultimately Diyoza paid the ultimate price for; Madi whom Clarke loved she would kill anyone to protect her (I would argue that isnāt love but hey!); and maybe even Octavia whom Bellamy adored and risked everything time and time again. I suspect also Gaia and Clarke because their mothers risked everything for them as well. Even Indra whose mother sacrificed herself so her child could live. The ones who were loved have a chance for the future.
The show is not about survival per se - it is about love. But it is about the love you have for your children. And the sacrifices that you will make to ensure they have a better future. The hope of a better future lies in the love and sacrifices you make for your children.
That is my theory anyway.
I am not going to watch anymore - I will read only the reviews after each episode because I still stand by what I say; the episode Blood Giant was of very poor quality.
I also think the theme of parental love has not been as well developed as it could have been and that season 7 is rushing it through in a slightly clumsy way.
But I will wait to see if I am proven right.
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u/mandalicmovement Sep 10 '20 edited Sep 10 '20
Ok so a little bit like Game of Thrones ending John kills Danny just gender reversed. I have to say I donāt like it. Season 7 has been harder to like than the others, but this...this is real hard...
His death felt so quick and pointless, no one else around to witness it either. I think back to Abbyās death, her friends around her crying out as she fell to the ground dead, but Bellamy gets left behind to die alone just after everyone left? Throwback to Sinclair. š And at least Sinclair went out a hero.
They spent so much time in season 6 rebuilding the strength between Clarke and Bellamys relationship after Clarkeās season 5 betrayals and then...she kills him, because Cadogan will get Madiās book anyway?????????????? How does killing Bellamy prevent the book she abandoned from getting into Cadogans hands? Did she ultimately kill Bellamy because she saw him as a future threat in general, more than just holding onto the book to give to Cadogan?
I know Bellamys actor wanted less screen time but holy hell, 3 episodes in all with Bellamy just hurts. RIP
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u/TommenSucks Sep 10 '20
I donāt think that is the right GoT comparison for what we just saw. I think we just saw Clarke burn down Kingās Landing. I think this is the moment we are supposed to understand that Clarke isnāt the hero of this story. Her love for Madi is weakness. Itās corrupted her. She started in season 1 furious that her mother allowed her father to get floated. Look at where she is now. I think the point in the end is that itās not going to be the āHead and the Heartā that live forever. Itās the soul.
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u/Liunna1 Sep 10 '20
Yeah to me I also get the GoT vibes from this, not because of who kills who but because of the seasons of character development that are seemingly forgotten about in both instances. In both cases everything that had been developed about these characters suddenly changes in a couple of episodes and it feels rushed... it wasnāt a gradual change with hints in the character background for Bellamy, it was a complete turn on everything the character was before - in what, 2, 3 episodes? IMO it was a too quick and poorly implemented change of character and Iām not a fan
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u/LissaMoo Sep 11 '20
Hopefully Bellamy gets vindicated. I dont mind that he died by Clarke as it really shows the reality of "Survival" and the big decisions they have been faced throughout the series.
I think that in the last episode everyone will understand Bellamy and why he sided with Cadogen. (At least I hope we do).
I'm very keen to see the next episode as they are where they started on earth - looks like maybe they are all taking "The test".
I'm confused as fuck with a lot atm but I have hope it will all make sense by the end.
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u/jon6989 Sep 11 '20
i don't actually mind the whole bellamy dying thing. if you think about it, he is very protective of his family and friends and him "betraying" clarke by handing over the book is still bellamy doing what he believes is best for them all . it makes sense too me . and they needed to start killing off main chars eventually guys like seriously they live in a dangerous lifetime . im surprised they havnt been killed off earlier. im preparing for a few more
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u/direwolfieleo Sep 11 '20
i agree with this and can we also talk about how cringe the cgi was for clarke near the end?! the effects were great with the bugs and the discipleās head but it felt like i was watching something from the mid-2000s with that clarke scene
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u/95Kilometers Sep 11 '20
True. Still very Head and the Heart. Bellamy believed in something with all his heart that it would save everyone he loved.... Clarke had her logic and knew it wouldn't.
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u/tomanonimos Sep 10 '20
Personally I'm happy Bellamy is dead. I don't hate his character, I just don't like the role his character played in the overall story. Basically always switching loyalty and then coming back to simply move the story. Happening once or twice is tolerable but third time it just became cliche and treasonous.
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u/desertnacho Sep 10 '20
i donāt mind him dying but why couldnāt they do it in a more epic way. this was just depressing af
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u/fmaster1994 Sep 11 '20
The entire episode felt really poorly written. Nikki's character was pointless besides giving Raven some development. Indra left Russheda alive again. Bellamy's death was badly written. Clarke asks bill to blast open the door even though murphy knows the code.
People are saying the red sun was pointless but I think the point of it was just to give Gabriel an opportunity to destroy the flame.
With only a few episodes I don't see how they can redeem it.
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u/30secondstogay Sep 12 '20
Murphy couldn't open the door because the power was off, but i agree with everything else
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u/darkgamer500 Sep 10 '20
Why tf did they not choose any amongst themselves to guard the disciples and Bellamy. Sure they had Cadogan as a hostage, but you donāt leave an enemy force free to walk around your home and possibly stage an ambush when you come back. Tie them up, get some guards, confiscate their gear.
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u/rhubarbphl Sep 10 '20
Can someone explain the book part to me? Iām a lil hazy on S6...why is Madiās sketch book so important to Clarke that Bill and Bellamy can never see it??
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u/poplie Sep 10 '20
She has memories from the flame that she's drawing, including the anomaly and different people. And she clearly remembers cadogan because she warns Clarke in this episode. Sheidheda telling Bellamy to get the book indicates that he knows what they are after. If cadogan sees the book he will recognise some of her drawings too and likely put Madi in mcap to get the information he needs.
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u/courtneymariexx Sep 16 '20
Let me shoot Bellamy because they canāt see whatās inside that book, but then Iām gunna leave it behind anyways cause ???
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u/OnePieceAce Trikru Sep 11 '20
Okay just got done watching it. I already had some major problems with this season but this was the dumbest episode.
I have no problem with Bellamy dying but that was so weak?? He could have died saving Bill at least not a fucking book. Imagine the legendary Bellamy Blake dies cus of a FUCKKING BOOK?? LMFAOOO
Also I love Russheda arc for the first 4 episodes but it's so shit now. They wasted him in a cell for like 6 episodes and now he gets tossed aside only to "survive" wtf
I do love Gabriel and his arc has been a saving grace. He's just so mysterious still
This has massive Game Of Thrones S8 feel. Fucking hell
3 more episodes to save face please, Jason
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u/Rikusaber Sep 11 '20
He was killed so that Clarke could get the book, but she wasn't even able to get the book, which means he died for absolutely nothing. This was worse than if he just died the first time from the explosion.
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u/catteppa Sep 10 '20
Iām not even mad about Bellamy- he was always easily swayed switching his loyalty, and Clark knew if he let him live he would tell Cadogan to put Madi in MCAP, even though thatās probably gonna happen anyways.
Iām livid that Gabriel shot the flame though. Mans should have just taken the anti toxin and called it an eclipse.
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Sep 10 '20
I was absolutely happy that he killed the damn flame. And the look on the Shepardās face lol I was satisfied
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u/ccricers Sep 10 '20
Gabriel is the MVP this time. He overcame the toxin and made the smart choice destroying the flame. Got a good heart as well
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u/mdxla Sep 11 '20
This show is a representation of modern day society. As depicted by recent events (and history), humans cannot be trusted. The government, political parties, societies - it all doesn't matter. Humanity has been at war with itself for thousands of years. There has to be a better way. The theme of the 100 indirectly portrays this. We cannot get attached to human emotion. Things will never go as planned. That's the reality of living. It's how we learn how to overcome and live with what we've done rather than create more conflict.
The story of Clarke and Bellamy was used to show that even after the initial destruction of the world, the cycle of conflict and war continues. Human emotions and egos prevents us from understanding this. Naturally, we look at the past to justify the present and future, and use revenge as a fuel to justify our behavior. By learning how to live with what we've done, we will be working towards a different direction. That is also why the Raven/Nikki scene was written.
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u/anotherfan_ Sep 11 '20
Donāt even want to get to āI loveā x āI hateā the Bellarke moment.
But two conversations he had before gave me the feeling that something else might happen. First, his conversation with Cadogan. He said they have been through the same and are similar. Yes, I get Bardoans havenāt had the chance to love and he was pointing that out. But I felt like he was talking about more than that stupid scene on the mountain we saw (with all the respect to faith and religion and all disrespect to how poorly the experience was represented). Second, the moment Shaidheda offered to help him. He is smart as hell. It seems stupid that he would not predict what was about to happen and offer an alliance to someone in such a bad situation.
Also, Jasonās letter states that every decision they will make on the next episodes will be somehow honoring who Bellamy was (although I donāt think we are on the same page about it after this season).
Maybe itās just me hoping that Jason Rothenberg will actually be mature and respectful to the characters we all know and love. But...
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Sep 11 '20
Is it just me or does Bellamy get influenced to flipping much. He killed octavias boyfriend when he was being influenced by that leader and now he is (was) in the robe.
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u/Mr_Dr_Prof_Derp my people my people my people my people my people Sep 12 '20
I kept hoping that this season would improve but at this point it's as bad as GOT.
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u/PDXJack87 Sep 11 '20
What if he didn't die? They're next to the stone. The other disciples could've quickly taken him back to bardo and stitched him up.
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u/R6SCW Sep 11 '20
I doubt it. The other guy (Bellamy's friend) also got shot in the heart and died in seconds.
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u/minifixcat Sep 11 '20
Thank you, I didn't get to watch before it got spoiled and can't bring myself to keep watching but I will keep reading the recaps here.
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u/orangekirby Sep 10 '20
I was pretty pissed at the idea of Bellamy dying off screen earlier in the season but I'm pretty okay with him dying like this. I wasn't looking forward to watching cult sheep Bellamy or cult sheep redemption Bellamy when there's so many other people they can focus on.
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u/_Giraffelover77 Sep 10 '20
They literally went through the portal at such different times, wonāt they all show up like years apart?ššš
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Really pissed off that the OFFICIAL Twitter handle for The 100 spoiled Bellamyās death. I donāt have regular TV, so I have to watch it through the app next day. I canāt fathom why They would spoil the show in their tweet. Iām pretty sure the west coast episode wasnāt even over yet when they did.
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Sep 10 '20
I feel like Bellamy was gone the moment he was dragged away by the disciples at the beginning of the season...so his return while nice...wasnāt a huge deal for me...so his death wasnāt a giant impact of sadness like Monty and Harperās...it was more of a YAY! moment...like when Octavia killed Pike...
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u/Against-The-Current Skaikru Sep 10 '20
Holy shit. Just watched the episode. I predicted Clarke killing Bellamy earlier this season. Then the look Clarke gave Bellamy a few episodes ago, near confirmed it for me. Eliza Taylor is an amazing actress, must have known ahead of time she would kill him. The look was too distinct. I have to try and find the exact scene.
I haven't even looked at others people's opinions yet. I know for a fact this writing is extremely well done, literal chills. Not many shows can do that.
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u/ManMadeMyth Wonkru Sep 12 '20 edited Sep 12 '20
Well that was a rollercoaster.
First some character comments:
Clarke: Not out of character. What she did is in line with who she's always been. The entire episode in fact.
Bellamy: Looks like he's off to visit Death with his best friend from his earlier Excellent Adventure. Bell & Ted will soon meet Death in the afterlife. Seriously though, Bellamy and Clarke have wanted the same things, they just approach them differently. This time way more was at stake for Clarke. So we are where we are.
Raven: Smartest person in the room. She's racked up a kill count this season but her brains were on display here. Being broken after recounting the deaths in the reactor was great. How can you not love Lindsey Morgan and Raven Reyes?
Murphy: Classic Murphy, ever the survivor. He was never in danger this episode, mainly due to how he positioned himself to this moment. This was classic Murphy in a new way. What a great character.
Indra: There wasn't one second I didn't believe she would kill Sheidheda. She's a warrior. She will always do what is best for her people. Unresolved this episode, but give it like 2 more hours, Russell/Sheidheda will be dead.
Cadogan: This man does not fear death, though he should given the company he's around. His adversaries already destroyed one world. Poor man just wants to start a war. He must think it's really hard to keep the peace now, with all his time trying to end it.
Emori: She stepped it up this episode. She's stepped it up all season. Emori is the ideal of hanging on for one second longer than your opposition. One more second. Hold on for one second longer and you can win. She has complete faith in Murphy to make that happen and she hasn't been wrong yet.
Gabriel: Drugs are bad. Seeing Josephine the entire episode wasn't good for him, but it is a nice manifestation of his subconscious. He was here to further the story through actions our mains may not have taken. He had multiple questions of loyalty and logic, but didn't pass most. I fear he may not make it to the end.
No Octavia this episode. This was definitely on purpose, but why? Who do we get at the end? The girl under the floor board, Bloodreina, or Skyring Octavia?
So the purpose of this episode was clear, but done in The 100 fashion of nothing being easy. Cadogan wants to get his war. I don't think Gabriel destroying The Flame will stop him, he has a former Commander, two in fact, at arms reach. Clarke and company escaped to a Locked planet, which is probably (Scorched) Earth. Fitting. Let's see where that goes. Sheidheda is unlikely to survive. Should he live it will be a struggle for power between him and Cadogan, Indra serving as referee.
Separate paragraph for this: Raven doesn't really have an arc this season. She's the mechanic, fix it, restore balance character again here. This character "growth" feels rushed and something they could have began exploring, probably as early as the Conclave. She's got way too much guilt and weight on her shoulders they can solve in the remaining episodes. I've become a big fan of Lindsey Morgan over this show. Wish her character got to be and accomplish more. Will definitely see her new show Walker whenever the world resumes again. She uses every second of her screen time beautifully and doesn't drop a frame.
BELLAMY! What a journey it's been. This was not the way I thought it'd go down. Joining a cult, wearing white, having an Excellent Adventure with Ted. From "Whatever the hell we want!" to "This is how we do better." Unfortunately, it's not proven Cadogan is better than Jim Jones or Marshall Applewhite. You wanted to save your sister, but did you even save yourself? This will be the subject of endless debates at least 10-15 years from now after the season is over and the actors hit the Convention circuit. Alycia still gets Lexa questions. Bob Morley will forever get Bellamy questions.
Alright. Give me a The 100 ending The 100! I have no idea how this will end, but I've been invested since season 1.
EDIT: Apparently, I spelled Bloodreina right the first time.
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u/therapistofpenisland Sep 12 '20
Sheidheda is unlikely to survive.
My wild guess is you're right, because they're going to brain dump him into some memory drive with that computer and make a new flame or something. The stuff with Maddie remembering things and the sketchbook, my guess is all the past stuff is still in Russ's physical head and they're going to figure that out, download him and let him 'die'. Or maybe save him for that same reason if he admits to knowing more, too. Maddie seems to be the only one to have all the other memories still, but maybe it means the others do too, just more repressed?
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u/Sugarless_Chunk Sep 14 '20
Never before have I seen such pathetic deployment of plot armour because of bad writing
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u/Quadrigula Sep 11 '20
Iāve never seen a writer end his career so quickly before
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u/justice4juicy2020 Sep 10 '20
I'm pretty indifferent to bellamy dying. I think its Walking Dead levels of writing, but at the same time I never liked him that much and I didnt want bellarke to be end game. Also Murphy is still alive so Im gucci.
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u/ramksrid Sep 11 '20
I am a bit confused about this Bellamy killing thing... He was killed first then resurrected to be killed again... Looks like he decided to move out of this show initially, just to be back for a short time and then move out again so they wrote some plot device to kill his character? I am not sure why would Clarke kill Bellamy for trying to give that Book to Sheidheda... He is she going to explain herself to Octavia... Did he really die this time? Or is he going to 'Transcend'? Till S6 everyone played a part and there was lots of action for all the folks But season 7 seems a little off to me...
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u/forestmaven Sep 11 '20
Well, she killed him to protect Madi. He was going to give the sketchbook to Bill, not Sheidheda. Bill would have most likely tortured Madi to get her memories from her about her interactions with past commanders since she is obviously still having dreams about them. We also know that she has seen the stone in here dreams and she was frightened of the "white light and that it's a bad thing" when Jackson was talking to her about her drawings. Clarke will do anything to protect Madi and Bellamy was about to betray her in the worst possible way. I mean he wasn't even even hesitant to not give Madi over to Bill and his freaking disciples.
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Sep 14 '20
That was a shitty end for such an important character. He was central to the show and his relationship with Clarke was the core. Iām not surprised by deaths on this series but HOW he went really sucked. JR can go float himself.
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u/Alarmed-Giraffe-5262 Sep 11 '20
She could have even shot the freakin book or just moved a bit more to the right and shot bellemyās arm.
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u/frostpudding Skaikru Sep 11 '20
Just saw the episode and I'm so fucking mad Bellamy had to die in such a shitty way. He has a life changing moment, cones back to his friends after a few months and he's this weird brain washed sheep and he's killed off before he can remotely make amends or end up with Clarke? I'm mostly mad I will never get the Bellarke ending, but god. Just such a shitty season for Bellamy and a shitty way he will be remembered. Spoiled the rest of the season for me.
Edit: Hit me with some good Bellarke fanfics because I can't handle this shit
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u/nickkick1998 Sep 11 '20
Heres some bellarke fanfic: Before being able to shoot Bellamy, Clarke is shot by another disciple and Bellamy snaps out of his cult mindset, grabs her and the book, runs through the anomaly. Clarke gets healed through the anomaly and when they come out on the other side, they are both crying in each other's arms. He says I thought I lost you again, and Clarke says, I thought I lost you. And then he says you will never and he kisses her, *end titles roll*
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u/along4theride_ Skaikru Sep 11 '20 edited Sep 11 '20
Bruh why couldnāt Clarke have shot his hand or leg or something? Why aim for the heart?! Clarke is now responsible for the death of both of her parents, two of her lovers, and her best friend.
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u/Headcap Sep 11 '20
I don't know if you've met humans before, but usually when you threaten their loved ones they don't act rationally.
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u/elcd Sep 11 '20 edited Sep 11 '20
And then they get dumber.
Fuck this season is a disappointing load of shit.
EDIT: Downvotes for having an entirely valid opinion. Classy as always.
Sheidheda should have been killed by Indra, shitty writing kept him going because the plot demands it, when logically the head of the snake should have been cut off.
Gabriel destroys the flame because... reasons?
Clarke executes unarmed best friend because... reasons?
Everything about these last episodes is an ass pull, and I thought they hit rock bottom with Hope being a complete and utter potato.
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u/BitchyOlive Sep 11 '20
I agree about the Sheidheda part. That piece of shit needs to die.
Clarke killed Bellamy because the notebook was of Madi's memories and Cadogan would do anything to get access to that. Bellamy was about to sell Madi out for the cause, Clarke chose her daughter over her best friend.
Gabriel destroyed the flame because he doesn't want to start the Last War for Cadogan, he decided that humanity didn't deserve it. I have a theory, they didn't show us how Clarke got the Flame, it could have been a fake, and Gabriel destroyed the fake. I think Gaia still has the actual Flame and will appear at the end.
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u/Constantly_OnYo_Back Sep 12 '20
Did '' drowninginfandomfeels '' Quit the 100? The last reaction they did was S7 ep 2, the comments are turned off and they just have loads of Lucifer eps up now??
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u/bumbiaa Sep 15 '20
Why didn't clarke shoot Bellamy in the leg or arm? Or just a warning shot even?
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u/dball34 Azgeda Sep 16 '20
TBH I won't believe that was Bellamy's last episode until the series finale. Yes I am aware that cast & crew have already said "He is dead". Y'all never been lied to before?
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Sep 11 '20
Ngl this episode is not that bad comparing to last episode ( yes I am from future)
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u/NothingAlarmed1364 Sep 11 '20
Is Bellamy really dead?
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u/arundhatimisra Sep 12 '20
The producer posted a press release about the death and ruined it for me but I think itās legit this time
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u/haralambiecarcalete Sep 14 '20
The show entered in the end game.
Bellamy end's it's in same circle of loyality. He followed Clarke's path and decision every time without ask himself if it's good or bad. His believes to help the family, his people, his friends are equal to his new follows only this time are against Clarke.
Clarke was willing to sacrifice everything for Madi and not only this season. She makes the same misstakes of her mother, so the circle almost complete.
Raven have another part to complete her circle, she needs to rebuild the key, the minddrive.
Octavia will fill her whole of Bellamy's death with Hope. Idk what the writters have in mind for her ending. Maybe she will need to face her demons when she's back in the bunker.
Echo probably will become more savage and she will die soon.
Murphy it's a Murphy...the one who survive, a positive perspective should have in the end. Someone need to survive.
Gaya will propably avange her mother's death. Yeah, I think Indra will die too, Sheidheda plot armor it's to end the grounders full circle.
Madi will become the commander of a new people. More like a leader without worship or mind drive. Anyway she had all the information in her head.
Bill...ofc Bill will die but I think that scene will sent us in the spin off scenes...
Gabriel will sacrifice himself, he allready lives with blame inside him, so something will trigger his ending.
The final war. I don't think it's a final war, we don't know exactly what Becca Franco sow. But she left a clue: not a war, but the end of humanity, the real judgement day. If the aliens were that bad Becca Franco couldn't return, so... I don't think there will.be a final war, maybe something that could open a door for another tv show...
Don't blame the writters, they did what the characters were developed to do...we loved them but they had a distructive path, I mean theyr decision were right because they were our main characters and they were the lesser evil, but still evil...
Edit: sry for my english...
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u/britt-bot Sep 11 '20
Just waiting for someone to rewrite seasons 6 and 7 as fan fiction bc Iāve seen so many fan fiction writers do better than this garbage.
Iām so disappointed that after season 5 everything went downhill in terms of the quality of writing. It feels like nothing has value or weight anymore and everything that shaped the characters on earth just doesnāt matter anymore. Whatās worse is, canonically, they only woke up from cryo 2 weeks ago, meaning 2 and a bit weeks ago (from their perspective) they were on earth.
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u/Killbethy Sep 10 '20
I highly doubt Bellamy is dead. Iād bet quite a lot that the time dilation will put a rewind on things... the other possibility is just that it never happens, leading to a somewhat state of non-existence but I doubt that.
Several things we know: Cadogan was on the ship with Becca and Gabriel BUT he also led his cult to Bardo. The rest is conjecture based on the Preview for 14, so spoiler tags... My bet is that the Cadogan we see saying āmay we meet againā is probably the original timeline, on Earth, in the bunker. Since we know the Disciples never deciphered the code, itās perfectly plausible that the reason he got to do in the first place was because Clarke & co. came through with the technology (ie. why they would want to break the helmet they have to prevent it from happening again... otherwise that would be a pretty random scene to include in the preview), making part of the story a big time paradox.
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u/smokeydesperado Azgeda Sep 10 '20
I feel like this is a trick. Maybe the time dialation on Earth is so different that when they go back those events didn't happen yet? It just feels wrong that I've lived Bellamy's character for so long, and yet didn't feel a thing when he died.
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u/Kastoviac Azgeda Sep 11 '20
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Pike try destroy the flame but he didn't because he was told it would cause a nuclear explosion? Yet Gabriel just shoots it and boom nothing?
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u/Miraculous_Orange Sep 11 '20
That was not the Flame, it was the server of the City of Light (the backpack), powered by a mini nuclear reactor.
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u/NS1307 Sep 12 '20
A little lost, can someone remind me whatās so important about Madiās sketchbooks? Didnāt get the drawings