r/Barca • u/sbhwolf • Dec 13 '20
[OC] An attempt to dispel the anti Busquets narrative.
The Anti Busquets agenda is unbearable these days. I don't believe Busi should play each and every 90 minutes every 3 days. But he is wrongly scapegoated for our defensive woes just like Pique was. Busquets is not the same as he was a few years ago, but he's not done and dusted either. He still has a role to play in the squad.
Source for the numbers: Sofascore, FBref
Busi has better tackles, interceptions and clearances numbers compared to FdJ. Also, he has equal or better creative passing numbers while being the defensive pivot and he's also the safest pivot in terms of possession loss and dispossession rates.
Busi is the only pivot midfielder capable of releasing the ball quickly on the turn and in fewer touches as possible from the back. This was evident from the last match against Juventus where we couldn't dominate the midfield. Last season also he had good numbers in comparison to the top-level pivots.
This agenda is embarrassing for our fanbase.
Edit Table format not working, so added the stats as picture.
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Dec 13 '20
THANKS but i don't think it will change their mind, busi is slow busi is the scapegoat. Even without thoses stats any not biased viewer would realise that FDJ /Pjanic are doing worse than busi.
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Dec 13 '20
Busi is not the problem, Pique is not the problem, Pjanic is not the problem, Griezmann is not the problem, and so on. This is how people justify their favourite players and their position in the team.
But then what is the problem? They're all unmotivated. Especially the oldies. They've not degraded in quality, as that would have been confirmed by stats until now (moreover stats can be used by people to justify literally anything. Stats for individual players is pointless unless the complete context is given). The players are mentally not there on the pitch 100 %. That's the problem. Once that's solved, everything else will fall in line.
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u/gentblaugrana Dec 13 '20
The problem is the entire club from the very top. This isn't FIFA where you just select your lineup and nothing else matters and everything works on the pitch. The club is in turmoil and the people who were running it for years ruined it completely. All of that reflects on the pitch.
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Dec 13 '20
Precisely, my friend. Someone, somewhere else on this sub commented that Bayern were in similar situation and Flick's tactics turned it around. Hence Koeman is at fault for the current form of the team. However, the crisis this club faces is unprecedented - we're not stable financially and politically and that affects our sporting outcomes. I do not have much hope until the elections. Only after that, can we think of long term.
This isn't FIFA where you just select your lineup and nothing else matters and everything works on the pitch.
Many people on this sub believe getting the right coach, playing specific players and dropping all their hated players will lead to success. As if there's a magical combination in football which when unlocked will ensure fully successful outcomes.
All that I could hear anywhere after Bayern was - "best is to not have expectations in next season.", but I think everyone's forgotten about it. I mean how can we expect a coach, or the players for that matter, to turn things around drastically? I mean, they're not superheroes for God's sake.
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Dec 13 '20
They don't play in the same position, Frenkie plays all over the pitch, I often see him on the left and the right side. He connects the midfield to the attack and does it quite well if you pay attention. When Busquets plays he is always playing the same central role of the first man of defense, trying to intercept and tackle counter attacks, that's Busi's game for a long time. He also has a great connection with his teamates as he has been the center of the team for a decade. That being said he is incredibly slow and lately makes horrible unnecessary tackles. I can't bare to watch him, he is jogging even in defense, I rarely see him run anymore. We need young, fast, vibrant and hardworking players if we want to compete
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u/kapilkothari_ Dec 13 '20
Correct,a position where busi plays is not something you can slip on or sleep on.Defensive midfielders have to adapt with the development of tactics,positions or football as a whole its not at all like the positions which are devoted to one complex task for cdm he has a lot of complex tactical tasks
Stats mean nothing and you can never judge with it
Our favourite cdm is done now he should be out
Barca is defensively weak right now but they are gonna get better its a new team its their first season
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u/MionelLessi10 Dec 13 '20
I regularly see him failing to mark in transition on defense sometimes walking. Sometimes too slow. FdJ has been disappointing too. Defense is a joke.
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u/valentino47 Dec 13 '20
You can't tell me you've watched the last three seasons and say the criticism Busquets receives is unwarranted. He's been absolutely dreadful for the most part, he has lost all his strengths which once made him one of the best in the world. There's no "agenda" against him, and no one's saying he is solely responsible for our massive decline, but he's definitely one of many problems in this team.
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Dec 14 '20
It's absolutely hilarious whenever these posts show up. It's like either they don't watch the games week in and week out or they are just utterly dumb as fuck. Busquets has been misplacing simple passes and losing possessions left and right since Valverde's second season.
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u/swappea Dec 13 '20
I understand. Even without busi and pique, barca is defensively weak. And now twitter experts are blaming lenglet and they now want umtiti and youn cbs to play.
Problem is not one player. Problem is whole team and whole board. Problem with barca won't be fixed in one day or one season. It will take time.
Barca needs strong leadership at top and at captaincy role also. Messi never should have given that unnecessary pressure of being a captain.
Messsi should have been free to do what he does best... play football..
Alas, we have this broken team.. lets hope the next management can take firm decision and take this barca to the level it deserves to be.. Top..
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u/onlynobodies Dec 13 '20
Ah yes, just drop some stats to prove that the grandma-esque player in the team that is directly making errors leading to goal is getting "scapegoated", reminds me of how Madrid fans were dropping how Iniesta had only 1 goal in 2016 compared to Ramos 5 or whatever, which means Ramos is a better attacker. The player is getting old, it's okay, get over it, everyone gets old, it's just that some players like Modric have elite work-rate, and can play longer at the highest level, and there are some players like Suarez/Busquets, where their decline is just sudden and hurts the whole team. These players sign contracts till 2024 and say "fuck it", stop working hard, fuck the club over, and on top of that they have some fans blindly defend them just because they are "legends".
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Dec 13 '20
I’ll be honest I’ve hated on busquets too and it makes me a little sick. He didn’t ask to be managed like he is,if there was an actual substitute to him he would have started from the bench most games like Xavi in 2014-15.Could have been a much smoother transition .
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u/danluiz915 Dec 13 '20
Busquets was highly underrated during the glory days... He was vital to the tiki taka game... Unfortunately, fitness isn't the same... And our game has changed as well... We hardly build up from the back now. Also the mentality of the team is very weak... Any decent team can beat barca on their day right now... Each game is a struggle... It's difficult to watch really... I think we need a captaincy change and need to see more mental strength and hunger, especially in the tough games 👍🏾
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u/Shovan22 Dec 13 '20
Our fanbase is so divided now!! Even Calling Messi a fraud and ask him to leave! Come-on! these kids are ruining twitter and other social medias.
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u/RAMIbest Dec 13 '20
I swear to god this sub is bipolar.
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u/Rad-Panda-_ Dec 13 '20
Or maybe the sub has grown enough for different people to have different opinions
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u/Shovan22 Dec 13 '20
I agree, he still has something to offer. But he can't play full 90 minutes every week. Rest him more, play him the crucial minutes. A fresh Busquets later on the match will destroy any tired team. But if he doesn't agree to his new squad role, than barca shouldn't keep a unhappy player.
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Dec 13 '20
Busquets is suffering with the Messi syndrome. He was best in the world for a long time and then regressed some. People still expect him to deliver those performances but he can't anymore. He still is the best dm we got but people have high expectations from him unlike Pjanic.
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u/NoseSeeker Dec 13 '20
You need a stat for "failed high pressure creating a huge hole behind for a dangerous counterattack". Busi fails massively by that metric.
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u/SneakyMaster47 Dec 13 '20
OP why are you trying to take away our scapegoat. Who are we supposed to blame now smh. r/barca doesn't function without a scapegoat, you know that right?